Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar in 4th house and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face adverse and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. Being a religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and we do worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects that lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us to worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as it is established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and any remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. Thankin you in advance, Raj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 do yiou idols bigger than 18 inches lalkitab , " Raj " <desi.raja wrote: > > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar in 4th house > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face adverse > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. Being a > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and we do > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects that > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us to > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as it is > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and any > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > Thankin you in advance, > Raj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Dear Raj, The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house and worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple in the house if a temple is established in the house, which creates ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect on it. Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th cannot be termed to be a bad placement. Astronambiar Raj <desi.raja wrote: I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar in 4th house and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face adverse and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. Being a religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and we do worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects that lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us to worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as it is established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and any remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. Thankin you in advance, Raj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Respected Sir astronambiar As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud not remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. 10 empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r mentioning -- Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to LK it is placed in its exalted. I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah shubh hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th & worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main clear likha gayaa hai ki Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa With Regards lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house and worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple in the house if a temple is established in the house, which creates ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect on it. > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > Astronambiar > > Raj <desi.raja wrote: > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar in 4th house > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face adverse > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. Being a > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and we do > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects that > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us to > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as it is > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and any > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > Thankin you in advance, > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Helloji, Thank you. Astrology gives the way and we have to clear the shadows and understand what it says. Everything cannot be written and it has to come within. There is a saying practice makes a man perfect. So is astrology. In many of the charts I have seen that when a person has Jupiter in the 4th, there hs been a temple nearby. May be within a walking distance or opposite, even. It may be interesting to note that when the Jupiter in th 4th and 10h house has saturn, venus mars etc. in such a case the native will lives in a colony where cattle will be plenty and again the house will be near the temply. The malafics in the 10th aspecting the 4th (vedic aspect) makes such a combination. Only Jupiter in 4th, of course the native lives near a temple, at a walking distance, and it may have a Gurdwara or a church, temple here indicates a religious place where people gather to congregate. It is however, no where written that there is a temple nearby, but by checking several charts i have come to know about it. Astronambiar lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Respected Sir astronambiar As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud not remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. 10 empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r mentioning -- Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to LK it is placed in its exalted. I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah shubh hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th & worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main clear likha gayaa hai ki Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa With Regards lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house and worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple in the house if a temple is established in the house, which creates ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect on it. > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > Astronambiar > > Raj <desi.raja wrote: > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar in 4th house > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face adverse > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. Being a > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and we do > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects that > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us to > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as it is > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and any > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > Thankin you in advance, > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hello nambiar JI Yes u r right.But in the perview of lalkitab we accept it only if jupiter will be malefic.Normally jupiter ka seedha sambandh ketu se bhi hai jo ki shani KA AGENT & jupiter ka kurabani ka bakara bhi.Bakra chahey kurbani ka ho ya be bE-Kurbani ka malik ko to pyaraa hotaa hi hai.Aur jahaan tak main samajhtaa hoon ki agar ketu malefic hoga to hi jupiter ka bhi pitririn ka yog hone per hi ghar ka paas koi religious place hoga.Even there can be a MAZAAR also.Jupiter ke 4th main hone aur shani ke 10 main hi hone ke peechhey koi karan bhi to hona chahiye.Aapke mutaabik aap ki explain ki gayee situation main ghar ke paas mandir hona kyon kisi had tak nishchit hai aur buraa hai I mean to say y it is sign of malefic guru. & y the 4th jupiter prohibited to place mandir in home according to previous mails.Plz don mind ,i will clear my views also. may be we r thinking at same point from different places of vision.But some part of disscusion seems missing.So i welcome ur views. With regards Lalkitabee Lalkitabee lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar wrote: > > Helloji, > > Thank you. > Astrology gives the way and we have to clear the shadows and understand what it says. Everything cannot be written and it has to come within. There is a saying practice makes a man perfect. So is astrology. In many of the charts I have seen that when a person has Jupiter in the 4th, there hs been a temple nearby. May be within a walking distance or opposite, even. > > It may be interesting to note that when the Jupiter in th 4th and 10h house has saturn, venus mars etc. in such a case the native will lives in a colony where cattle will be plenty and again the house will be near the temply. The malafics in the 10th aspecting the 4th (vedic aspect) makes such a combination. Only Jupiter in 4th, of course the native lives near a temple, at a walking distance, and it may have a Gurdwara or a church, temple here indicates a religious place where people gather to congregate. > > It is however, no where written that there is a temple nearby, but by checking several charts i have come to know about it. > > Astronambiar > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Sir astronambiar > As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud not > remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. 10 > empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is > near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r mentioning -- > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, > the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. > The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to > LK it is placed in its exalted. > I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other > side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is > mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah shubh > hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th & > worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main > clear likha gayaa hai ki > Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega > Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa > With Regards > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one > should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. > When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one > should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is > that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house and > worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point > debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can > have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having > a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is > placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a > temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of > a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as > the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple > in the house if a temple is established in the house, which creates > ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a > person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking > distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as > according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he > will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect > on it. > > > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it > may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and > 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th > cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > > > Astronambiar > > > > Raj <desi.raja@> wrote: > > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar > in 4th house > > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face > adverse > > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. > Being a > > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and > we do > > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects > that > > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us > to > > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as > it is > > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and > any > > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > > > Thankin you in advance, > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hello ji, Yes, your assertion is also correct that the the Jupiter when placed in the 4th and the native lives near a temple or has a temple at home can be of a malefic Jupier. To confirm its malefesance is the 2, 5, 9th and 12 th should not have malefic planets of Jupiter, like, Mercury, Venus, R/K or Sat. In certain cases it has been seen that the enemy planets of Jupiter is placed in 2,5,9,12 and that way the Jupiter becomes bad. I would request you to give a write up on this. I have further noticed tht apart from the above position, (means that Jupiter is not placed in the 4th in Natal chart and is placed elsewhere - in such a situation) the native purchases a house when the Jupiter in the progress chart comes to the 4th house. I have also seen tht when Mars, Ketu etc. malafic plants placed in the 3rd in the natal chart when it comes to 1st in the progression, gives a very bad result. IN some cases it has been observed some accidents/fire etc takes places or some thing bad happens. In this view of the situation, could you kindly give some clues to the effect of the planets placed in different houses in natal chart and at times it comes on progression in different houses, i.e. the good or bad results so that one could come to the conclusion that at a particular year one will be benefitted or lose. Kindly peep into. goodday! astronambiar. lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Hello nambiar JI Yes u r right.But in the perview of lalkitab we accept it only if jupiter will be malefic.Normally jupiter ka seedha sambandh ketu se bhi hai jo ki shani KA AGENT & jupiter ka kurabani ka bakara bhi.Bakra chahey kurbani ka ho ya be bE-Kurbani ka malik ko to pyaraa hotaa hi hai.Aur jahaan tak main samajhtaa hoon ki agar ketu malefic hoga to hi jupiter ka bhi pitririn ka yog hone per hi ghar ka paas koi religious place hoga.Even there can be a MAZAAR also.Jupiter ke 4th main hone aur shani ke 10 main hi hone ke peechhey koi karan bhi to hona chahiye.Aapke mutaabik aap ki explain ki gayee situation main ghar ke paas mandir hona kyon kisi had tak nishchit hai aur buraa hai I mean to say y it is sign of malefic guru. & y the 4th jupiter prohibited to place mandir in home according to previous mails.Plz don mind ,i will clear my views also. may be we r thinking at same point from different places of vision.But some part of disscusion seems missing.So i welcome ur views. With regards Lalkitabee Lalkitabee lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar wrote: > > Helloji, > > Thank you. > Astrology gives the way and we have to clear the shadows and understand what it says. Everything cannot be written and it has to come within. There is a saying practice makes a man perfect. So is astrology. In many of the charts I have seen that when a person has Jupiter in the 4th, there hs been a temple nearby. May be within a walking distance or opposite, even. > > It may be interesting to note that when the Jupiter in th 4th and 10h house has saturn, venus mars etc. in such a case the native will lives in a colony where cattle will be plenty and again the house will be near the temply. The malafics in the 10th aspecting the 4th (vedic aspect) makes such a combination. Only Jupiter in 4th, of course the native lives near a temple, at a walking distance, and it may have a Gurdwara or a church, temple here indicates a religious place where people gather to congregate. > > It is however, no where written that there is a temple nearby, but by checking several charts i have come to know about it. > > Astronambiar > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Sir astronambiar > As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud not > remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. 10 > empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is > near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r mentioning -- > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, > the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. > The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to > LK it is placed in its exalted. > I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other > side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is > mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah shubh > hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th & > worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main > clear likha gayaa hai ki > Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega > Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa > With Regards > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one > should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. > When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one > should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is > that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house and > worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point > debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can > have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having > a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is > placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a > temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of > a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as > the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple > in the house if a temple is established in the house, which creates > ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a > person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking > distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as > according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he > will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect > on it. > > > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it > may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and > 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th > cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > > > Astronambiar > > > > Raj <desi.raja@> wrote: > > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar > in 4th house > > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face > adverse > > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. > Being a > > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and > we do > > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects > that > > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us > to > > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as > it is > > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and > any > > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > > > Thankin you in advance, > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hello ji, Yes, your assertion is also correct that the the Jupiter when placed in the 4th and the native lives near a temple or has a temple at home can be of a malefic Jupier. To confirm its malefesance is the 2, 5, 9th and 12 th should not have malefic planets of Jupiter, like, Mercury, Venus, R/K or Sat. In certain cases it has been seen that the enemy planets of Jupiter is placed in 2,5,9,12 and that way the Jupiter becomes bad. I would request you to give a write up on this. I have further noticed tht apart from the above position, (means that Jupiter is not placed in the 4th in Natal chart and is placed elsewhere - in such a situation) the native purchases a house when the Jupiter in the progress chart comes to the 4th house. I have also seen tht when Mars, Ketu etc. malafic plants placed in the 3rd in the natal chart when it comes to 1st in the progression, gives a very bad result. IN some cases it has been observed some accidents/fire etc takes places or some thing bad happens. In this view of the situation, could you kindly give some clues to the effect of the planets placed in different houses in natal chart and at times it comes on progression in different houses, i.e. the good or bad results so that one could come to the conclusion that at a particular year one will be benefitted or lose. Kindly peep into. goodday! astronambiar. lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Hello nambiar JI Yes u r right.But in the perview of lalkitab we accept it only if jupiter will be malefic.Normally jupiter ka seedha sambandh ketu se bhi hai jo ki shani KA AGENT & jupiter ka kurabani ka bakara bhi.Bakra chahey kurbani ka ho ya be bE-Kurbani ka malik ko to pyaraa hotaa hi hai.Aur jahaan tak main samajhtaa hoon ki agar ketu malefic hoga to hi jupiter ka bhi pitririn ka yog hone per hi ghar ka paas koi religious place hoga.Even there can be a MAZAAR also.Jupiter ke 4th main hone aur shani ke 10 main hi hone ke peechhey koi karan bhi to hona chahiye.Aapke mutaabik aap ki explain ki gayee situation main ghar ke paas mandir hona kyon kisi had tak nishchit hai aur buraa hai I mean to say y it is sign of malefic guru. & y the 4th jupiter prohibited to place mandir in home according to previous mails.Plz don mind ,i will clear my views also. may be we r thinking at same point from different places of vision.But some part of disscusion seems missing.So i welcome ur views. With regards Lalkitabee Lalkitabee lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar wrote: > > Helloji, > > Thank you. > Astrology gives the way and we have to clear the shadows and understand what it says. Everything cannot be written and it has to come within. There is a saying practice makes a man perfect. So is astrology. In many of the charts I have seen that when a person has Jupiter in the 4th, there hs been a temple nearby. May be within a walking distance or opposite, even. > > It may be interesting to note that when the Jupiter in th 4th and 10h house has saturn, venus mars etc. in such a case the native will lives in a colony where cattle will be plenty and again the house will be near the temply. The malafics in the 10th aspecting the 4th (vedic aspect) makes such a combination. Only Jupiter in 4th, of course the native lives near a temple, at a walking distance, and it may have a Gurdwara or a church, temple here indicates a religious place where people gather to congregate. > > It is however, no where written that there is a temple nearby, but by checking several charts i have come to know about it. > > Astronambiar > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Sir astronambiar > As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud not > remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. 10 > empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is > near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r mentioning -- > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, > the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. > The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according to > LK it is placed in its exalted. > I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other > side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is > mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah shubh > hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th & > worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main > clear likha gayaa hai ki > Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega > Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa > With Regards > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one > should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. > When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one > should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is > that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house and > worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point > debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can > have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having > a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is > placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a > temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of > a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as > the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple > in the house if a temple is established in the house, which creates > ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a > person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking > distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as > according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he > will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect > on it. > > > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it > may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and > 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th > cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > > > Astronambiar > > > > Raj <desi.raja@> wrote: > > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar > in 4th house > > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face > adverse > > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. > Being a > > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and > we do > > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects > that > > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want us > to > > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home as > it is > > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible and > any > > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > > > Thankin you in advance, > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Hello, I had initiated the discussion of Jupiter in 4th and having temple at home. what lalkitabee describing is very much like my horo? Feel free to use my horo as research i am posting placement of houses below. Asc in 10th sign - no planets in it. Moon in 3rd House Jupiter in 4th House Mar and Ketu in 5th House Saturn in 7th House Sun, Mercury and Venus in 8th House Rahu in 11th House. Having ketu in 5th with mars has anything to do with pitririn? Why does laal kitab has a remedy of offering shraadha for one who has mars in 5th house? Thanks for continuing discussion on this. Raj lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar wrote: > > Hello ji, > > Yes, your assertion is also correct that the the Jupiter when placed in the 4th and the native lives near a temple or has a temple at home can be of a malefic Jupier. To confirm its malefesance is the 2, 5, 9th and 12 th should not have malefic planets of Jupiter, like, Mercury, Venus, R/K or Sat. In certain cases it has been seen that the enemy planets of Jupiter is placed in 2,5,9,12 and that way the Jupiter becomes bad. I would request you to give a write up on this. > > I have further noticed tht apart from the above position, (means that Jupiter is not placed in the 4th in Natal chart and is placed elsewhere - in such a situation) the native purchases a house when the Jupiter in the progress chart comes to the 4th house. > > I have also seen tht when Mars, Ketu etc. malafic plants placed in the 3rd in the natal chart when it comes to 1st in the progression, gives a very bad result. IN some cases it has been observed some accidents/fire etc takes places or some thing bad happens. > > In this view of the situation, could you kindly give some clues to the effect of the planets placed in different houses in natal chart and at times it comes on progression in different houses, i.e. the good or bad results so that one could come to the conclusion that at a particular year one will be benefitted or lose. Kindly peep into. > > goodday! > astronambiar. > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Hello nambiar JI > Yes u r right.But in the perview of lalkitab we accept it only if > jupiter will be malefic.Normally jupiter ka seedha sambandh ketu se > bhi hai jo ki shani KA AGENT & jupiter ka kurabani ka bakara > bhi.Bakra chahey kurbani ka ho ya be bE-Kurbani ka malik ko to > pyaraa hotaa hi hai.Aur jahaan tak main samajhtaa hoon ki agar ketu > malefic hoga to hi jupiter ka bhi pitririn ka yog hone per hi ghar > ka paas koi religious place hoga.Even there can be a MAZAAR > also.Jupiter ke 4th main hone aur shani ke 10 main hi hone ke > peechhey koi karan bhi to hona chahiye.Aapke mutaabik aap ki explain > ki gayee situation main ghar ke paas mandir hona kyon kisi had tak > nishchit hai aur buraa hai I mean to say y it is sign of malefic > guru. & y the 4th jupiter prohibited to place mandir in home > according to previous mails.Plz don mind ,i will clear my views > also. may be we r thinking at same point from different places of > vision.But some part of disscusion seems missing.So i welcome ur > views. > With regards > Lalkitabee > Lalkitabee > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > wrote: > > > > Helloji, > > > > Thank you. > > Astrology gives the way and we have to clear the shadows and > understand what it says. Everything cannot be written and it has to > come within. There is a saying practice makes a man perfect. So is > astrology. In many of the charts I have seen that when a person has > Jupiter in the 4th, there hs been a temple nearby. May be within a > walking distance or opposite, even. > > > > It may be interesting to note that when the Jupiter in th 4th > and 10h house has saturn, venus mars etc. in such a case the > native will lives in a colony where cattle will be plenty and again > the house will be near the temply. The malafics in the 10th > aspecting the 4th (vedic aspect) makes such a combination. Only > Jupiter in 4th, of course the native lives near a temple, at a > walking distance, and it may have a Gurdwara or a church, temple > here indicates a religious place where people gather to congregate. > > > > It is however, no where written that there is a temple nearby, > but by checking several charts i have come to know about it. > > > > Astronambiar > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > Respected Sir astronambiar > > As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud not > > remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. 10 > > empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is > > near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r > mentioning -- > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a person, > > the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking distance. > > The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as according > to > > LK it is placed in its exalted. > > I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other > > side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is > > mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah shubh > > hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th & > > worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main > > clear likha gayaa hai ki > > Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega > > Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa > > With Regards > > > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one > > should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. > > When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one > > should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is > > that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house > and > > worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point > > debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You can > > have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in having > > a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy is > > placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a > > temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity of > > a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, as > > the women normally have menses and they too walk around the temple > > in the house if a temple is established in the house, which > creates > > ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > > > > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a > > person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking > > distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as > > according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that he > > will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic aspect > > on it. > > > > > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but it > > may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and > > 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th > > cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > > > > > Astronambiar > > > > > > Raj <desi.raja@> wrote: > > > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar > > in 4th house > > > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and face > > adverse > > > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. > > Being a > > > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home and > > we do > > > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse effects > > that > > > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not want > us > > to > > > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home > as > > it is > > > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible > and > > any > > > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > > > > > Thankin you in advance, > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Respected desi raja As i think & analyze there nothing to see as pitririn in ur horoscope. & no adverse effect of jupiter in 4th.I can say that it has given u a house as a palace (internal look).I mean u will like to place antique pieces as a show piece in ur home.Home may be north facing or west facing or a corner house.So u shud not be worried for this jupiter & no need to remove temple from ur house.But put the TILAK of safforon at ur forhead regularly & be careful for ur teeth also.Gandaa chaal chalan aur sharab peena aapke liye haanikarak hoga.Vaise is tarah ke horoscope ka insaan dono hi baton se perhez rakhtaa hai lekin bahut badaa ghar Aur administrater jaisi power mil jaane per dono hi baaton ka khatraa banaa rehtaa hai aur aisaa ohdaa ya fame milnaa bhi guru hi decide kartaa hai taaki shani ko bhi maukaa miley kharaab hone ka aur shani kharaab to guru bhi kharab aur guru kharaab to aulad main se ek ladkaa kharaab aur ketu umdaa rakhaa payaa to two sons ki taqat ya bakhshish..So be careful.The temple in ur house will increase the grace of u & ur house.But never beat dogs bcoz ur ketu is itself bad due to moon in 3rd.Jitne adhik dharmik rahoge utni hi umdaa aulaad hogi.Filhaal adverse effects ka karan varshfal ka koi buraa planet ho saktaa hai.So don worry. with regards Lalkitabee lalkitab , " Raj " <desi.raja wrote: > > Hello, > > I had initiated the discussion of Jupiter in 4th and having temple > at home. what lalkitabee describing is very much like my horo? Feel > free to use my horo as research i am posting placement of houses > below. > > Asc in 10th sign - no planets in it. > Moon in 3rd House > Jupiter in 4th House > Mar and Ketu in 5th House > Saturn in 7th House > Sun, Mercury and Venus in 8th House > Rahu in 11th House. > > Having ketu in 5th with mars has anything to do with pitririn? Why > does laal kitab has a remedy of offering shraadha for one who has > mars in 5th house? > > Thanks for continuing discussion on this. > Raj > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > wrote: > > > > Hello ji, > > > > Yes, your assertion is also correct that the the Jupiter when > placed in the 4th and the native lives near a temple or has a temple > at home can be of a malefic Jupier. To confirm its malefesance is > the 2, 5, 9th and 12 th should not have malefic planets of Jupiter, > like, Mercury, Venus, R/K or Sat. In certain cases it has been seen > that the enemy planets of Jupiter is placed in 2,5,9,12 and that way > the Jupiter becomes bad. I would request you to give a write up on > this. > > > > I have further noticed tht apart from the above position, (means > that Jupiter is not placed in the 4th in Natal chart and is placed > elsewhere - in such a situation) the native purchases a house when > the Jupiter in the progress chart comes to the 4th house. > > > > I have also seen tht when Mars, Ketu etc. malafic plants placed > in the 3rd in the natal chart when it comes to 1st in the > progression, gives a very bad result. IN some cases it has been > observed some accidents/fire etc takes places or some thing bad > happens. > > > > In this view of the situation, could you kindly give some clues > to the effect of the planets placed in different houses in natal > chart and at times it comes on progression in different houses, i.e. > the good or bad results so that one could come to the conclusion > that at a particular year one will be benefitted or lose. Kindly > peep into. > > > > goodday! > > astronambiar. > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > Hello nambiar JI > > Yes u r right.But in the perview of lalkitab we accept it only if > > jupiter will be malefic.Normally jupiter ka seedha sambandh ketu > se > > bhi hai jo ki shani KA AGENT & jupiter ka kurabani ka bakara > > bhi.Bakra chahey kurbani ka ho ya be bE-Kurbani ka malik ko to > > pyaraa hotaa hi hai.Aur jahaan tak main samajhtaa hoon ki agar > ketu > > malefic hoga to hi jupiter ka bhi pitririn ka yog hone per hi ghar > > ka paas koi religious place hoga.Even there can be a MAZAAR > > also.Jupiter ke 4th main hone aur shani ke 10 main hi hone ke > > peechhey koi karan bhi to hona chahiye.Aapke mutaabik aap ki > explain > > ki gayee situation main ghar ke paas mandir hona kyon kisi had tak > > nishchit hai aur buraa hai I mean to say y it is sign of malefic > > guru. & y the 4th jupiter prohibited to place mandir in home > > according to previous mails.Plz don mind ,i will clear my views > > also. may be we r thinking at same point from different places of > > vision.But some part of disscusion seems missing.So i welcome ur > > views. > > With regards > > Lalkitabee > > Lalkitabee > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Helloji, > > > > > > Thank you. > > > Astrology gives the way and we have to clear the shadows and > > understand what it says. Everything cannot be written and it has > to > > come within. There is a saying practice makes a man perfect. So is > > astrology. In many of the charts I have seen that when a person > has > > Jupiter in the 4th, there hs been a temple nearby. May be within a > > walking distance or opposite, even. > > > > > > It may be interesting to note that when the Jupiter in th 4th > > and 10h house has saturn, venus mars etc. in such a case the > > native will lives in a colony where cattle will be plenty and > again > > the house will be near the temply. The malafics in the 10th > > aspecting the 4th (vedic aspect) makes such a combination. Only > > Jupiter in 4th, of course the native lives near a temple, at a > > walking distance, and it may have a Gurdwara or a church, temple > > here indicates a religious place where people gather to > congregate. > > > > > > It is however, no where written that there is a temple nearby, > > but by checking several charts i have come to know about it. > > > > > > Astronambiar > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > Respected Sir astronambiar > > > As u told about jupiter in 4th -one shud cover his body & shud > not > > > remain nacked.Yes it is true - but there shud be the house no. > 10 > > > empty.At next step if jupiter may be in 4th & the one's house is > > > near any temple at walking distance.From which book u r > > mentioning -- > > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a > person, > > > the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking > distance. > > > The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, as > according > > to > > > LK it is placed in its exalted. > > > I think here is some doubt about this defination.At other > > > side lalkitab doesnt neglect worship place at home.There is > > > mentioned clearly - Uttar poorav main poojaa paath ki jagah > shubh > > > hogi. So i think we shud clear all aspects about jupiter in 4th > & > > > worship place at home.Haan jupiter 7th main ho to lalkitab main > > > clear likha gayaa hai ki > > > Rakha ghar main mandir , na parivaar dega > > > Bache ladkaa jab to veh mitti karegaa > > > With Regards > > > > > > lalkitab , astro nambiar <astronambiar@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > The Jupiter when posted in the 4th house, it is said that one > > > should cover his bodyand should not remain naked in that sense. > > > When Jupiter is placed in the 4th House it does not say that one > > > should not worship. The understanding of not having a temple is > > > that one should be not have a gandi and idol placed in the house > > and > > > worshiped like the one worshipped in a temple. The only point > > > debars one is not to use gandi gadiyal and moorthi pooja. You > can > > > have pictures of the Deity you worship. There is no harm in > having > > > a temple. It is also a matter of concern that when the moorthy > is > > > placed after pranaprathishta, it gets invoked as being done in a > > > temple, which is not possible at home. Further as the sanctity > of > > > a temple with respect to the purity is not maintained at home, > as > > > the women normally have menses and they too walk around the > temple > > > in the house if a temple is established in the house, which > > creates > > > ashuddi. That is why a temple is prohibited. > > > > > > > > Even otherwise, if Jupiter is placed in the 4th house of a > > > person, the person lives near a temple in his town, of a walking > > > distance. The 4th House Jupiter is considered very auspicious, > as > > > according to LK it is placed in its exalted position, and that > he > > > will have a good house, if it is well placed and no malefic > aspect > > > on it. > > > > > > > > Your problem of poverty is not due to Jupiter in the 4th, but > it > > > may be due to other possible malefic influence on your 2nd and > > > 11th,9th and in the 6th etc. So mere placement of Jupiter in 4th > > > cannot be termed to be a bad placement. > > > > > > > > Astronambiar > > > > > > > > Raj <desi.raja@> wrote: > > > > I am confused by lalkitab saying that if one has jupitar > > > in 4th house > > > > and he/she has a temple at home, one will face poeerty and > face > > > adverse > > > > and reverse result from jupitar than expected in 4th jupiter.. > > > Being a > > > > religious hindu person, I myself have a small temple at home > and > > > we do > > > > worship at home. Lately, i have been seeing the adverse > effects > > > that > > > > lalkitab mentioned for jupiter in 4th. So Jupitor does not > want > > us > > > to > > > > worhip at home ? I do not want to remove that temple from home > > as > > > it is > > > > established. Any remedy? Please explain in detail if possible > > and > > > any > > > > remedy that does not mention to remove the temple. > > > > > > > > Thankin you in advance, > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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