Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Prafulla Jee, That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not downright harmful. If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has been discussed in various mail messages. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Members > > Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic astrology > student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed excellent > application by few fellow astrologers. > > I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the same > planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Dear Rajinder ji Many thanks for your quick note. I am going through archives and in fact read your early note on benefics / malefics (tabular summary). In your summary, you have not listed 8th house position as bad for most planets (or perhaps, it is assumed that 8th house is bad for all). BTW, you have excluded venus in 8th as bad. For example - you mentioned that sun in 7th is debilitated (logically with kaalapurusha chart too - that is what lalkitab bases upon); and you have listed this as malefic. Now, how can it be benefic? This is the issues, i am yet to resolve per lalkitab (perhaps, for other planetary placements). Now lagna is empty, so 7th house planets are defunct - and as mentioned in lalkitab - mercury thrives in 7th (pacca ghar) - so does mercury override the above? (lagna - vacant; house 3 - mars / ketu; house 6 - moon; house 7th - sun/mercury; house 8th - shani / shukra; house 9 - rahu; house 12 - guru). House 2 / 11 / 4 are vacant; house 6/8/12 have planets (house 6 and 8 have inmical planets too) - so house 6 must be affected badly by 8th house. Now to read the malefic effects, I tried to look at symptoms (as lalkitab defines as bad results) - but lot many bad effects are not reflected. I understood from the lalkitab that, planets can be moved from one house to another - perhaps, on its own (by unknowingly carried out remedy) - planets have moved to give good / bad effects. and this seems to be most complex part of chart reader to see, what could have avoided certain results. I am trying hard, not to mix vedic astrology knowledge with the lalkitab interpretation. regards / Prafulla Gang In the long history of humankind (and animalkind, too) those who learned to collaborate and improvise most effectively have prevailed. > > rajinderbhatia2002 > Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:13 -0000 > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Re: LalKitab - interpretation - REPLY > > > Prafulla Jee, > That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house > can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a > planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and > surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has > certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of > these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while > the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a > practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. > If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek > haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. > AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only > then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily > giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not > downright harmful. > > If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has > been discussed in various mail messages. > > Respectfully, > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: >> >> Dear Members >> >> Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " >> copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic > astrology >> student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it >> was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed > excellent >> application by few fellow astrologers. >> >> I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and >> will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the > same >> planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers >> sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. >> >> regards / Prafulla >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 dear bhatia ji, your reply is very apt. When it is said that the Sun in 7th house is melefic,that is a general statement that Sun usually is melefic in 7th house as it is very likely to affect Venus melefically. Bhatia ji, i have a couple of questions;please clarify- i have not been able to find it out myself: 1.How to find out about sudden illnesses,accidents etc. from janam kundli or birth charts as par Lal Kitab? 2.These days janam kundlis prepared by Lal Kitab pundits state mahadasha,sub-periods etc. from DOB.Please clarify as to how one finds out the Grah at the time of birth and its period and sub-periods as it is quite different from vedic janam kundali. With regards and best wishes, Sincerely, kiranjeet Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Prafulla Jee, That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not downright harmful. If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has been discussed in various mail messages. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Members > > Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic astrology > student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed excellent > application by few fellow astrologers. > > I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the same > planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Dear prafulla ji, as sun and mercury is said that it will make the persons Daily income stable. and gives him daily income too. so it might be called as beneficial. I am much confused abt mercury in 10th house as per lalkitab. Can someone suggest me abt mercury in 10th house Thanks Tarun lalkitab , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Rajinder ji > > Many thanks for your quick note. I am going through archives and in fact read your early note on benefics / malefics (tabular summary). > > In your summary, you have not listed 8th house position as bad for most planets (or perhaps, it is assumed that 8th house is bad for all). BTW, you have excluded venus in 8th as bad. > > For example - you mentioned that sun in 7th is debilitated (logically with kaalapurusha chart too - that is what lalkitab bases upon); and you have listed this as malefic. Now, how can it be benefic? This is the issues, i am yet to resolve per lalkitab (perhaps, for other planetary placements). Now lagna is empty, so 7th house planets are defunct - and as mentioned in lalkitab - mercury thrives in 7th (pacca ghar) - so does mercury override the above? (lagna - vacant; house 3 - mars / ketu; house 6 - moon; house 7th - sun/mercury; house 8th - shani / shukra; house 9 - rahu; house 12 - guru). > > House 2 / 11 / 4 are vacant; house 6/8/12 have planets (house 6 and 8 have inmical planets too) - so house 6 must be affected badly by 8th house. Now to read the malefic effects, I tried to look at symptoms (as lalkitab defines as bad results) - but lot many bad effects are not reflected. > > I understood from the lalkitab that, planets can be moved from one house to another - perhaps, on its own (by unknowingly carried out remedy) - planets have moved to give good / bad effects. and this seems to be most complex part of chart reader to see, what could have avoided certain results. > > I am trying hard, not to mix vedic astrology knowledge with the lalkitab interpretation. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > In the long history of humankind (and animalkind, too) those who learned to collaborate and improvise most effectively have prevailed. > > > > > > rajinderbhatia2002 > > Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:13 -0000 > > lalkitab > > [lalkitab] Re: LalKitab - interpretation - REPLY > > > > > > Prafulla Jee, > > That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house > > can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a > > planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and > > surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has > > certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of > > these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while > > the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a > > practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. > > If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek > > haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. > > AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only > > then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily > > giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not > > downright harmful. > > > > If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has > > been discussed in various mail messages. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Members > >> > >> Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > >> copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic > > astrology > >> student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > >> was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed > > excellent > >> application by few fellow astrologers. > >> > >> I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > >> will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the > > same > >> planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > >> sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Kiranjit Jee, Please see my reply enclosed in { } because fonts sometimes are over-ridden. Rajinder Bhatia kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: dear bhatia ji, your reply is very apt. When it is said that the Sun in 7th house is melefic,that is a general statement that Sun usually is melefic in 7th house as it is very likely to affect Venus melefically. Bhatia ji, i have a couple of questions;please clarify- i have not been able to find it out myself: 1.How to find out about sudden illnesses,accidents etc. from janam kundli or birth charts as par Lal Kitab? { This is a difficult one to answer. Since accidents happen suddenly, the events that are sudden in nature are mostly caused by Rahu. In the varshphal, if Rahu is badly positioned and by virtue of aspects, is becoming malefic, it may cause one to be suddenly involved in accidents. Illness is even more complicated. Each planet has specific disease associated with it. During its maleficity, a planet may cause a specific type of disease or illness. Frankly, it is hard to predict; at least I don't know how to be definitive about it. Vedic astrology may provide more clues and indications. LalKitab needs more research in this area. } 2.These days janam kundlis prepared by Lal Kitab pundits state mahadasha,sub-periods etc. from DOB.Please clarify as to how one finds out the Grah at the time of birth and its period and sub-periods as it is quite different from vedic janam kundali. { Mahadasha has a totally different connotation in LalKitab versus Vedic astrology. This topic, in regards to application to LalKitab has come up for discussion in the past, here and in other forums, and many people claim to understand it. But no one has succeeded to provide any convincing proof that they understand this or have utilized this in a practical sense. LalKitab does talk about it but unfortunately, does not give any examples of its usage. Having discussed this with many fellow LalKitab enthusiasts, I have dropped this topic altogether. Only the janma waqt ka grah and janma din ka grah, have practical use. And these too, have relevance when one's full birth details are not known but an educated guess is needed for remedial purposes. I would like to emphasize that this is my personal observation and the fellow LalKitab enthusiasts may or may not agree with me. } With regards and best wishes, Sincerely, kiranjeet Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Prafulla Jee, That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not downright harmful. If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has been discussed in various mail messages. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Members > > Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic astrology > student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed excellent > application by few fellow astrologers. > > I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the same > planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Respected Bhatia Sahib, A very enlightening explanation indeed. Sir, I would like to add a few words (with your kind permission) in addition to your most scholarly respond. In my humble opinion, one likely cause of sudden incidents of illnesses, accidents and other unfortunate occurrence etc. is “Dhokhe ka Grah” and the other is “Pitri Rin” in a natives chart. Both of these terms are a bit technical in nature and unfortunately people often overlook these crucial factors while analyzing but, I have seen in numerous charts that these two factors are mainly responsible for unseen and unexpected difficulties. Kindly correct me if I am wrong. Regards Yograj Prabhakar Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Kiranjit Jee, Please see my reply enclosed in { } because fonts sometimes are over-ridden. Rajinder Bhatia kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: dear bhatia ji, your reply is very apt. When it is said that the Sun in 7th house is melefic,that is a general statement that Sun usually is melefic in 7th house as it is very likely to affect Venus melefically. Bhatia ji, i have a couple of questions;please clarify- i have not been able to find it out myself: 1.How to find out about sudden illnesses,accidents etc. from janam kundli or birth charts as par Lal Kitab? { This is a difficult one to answer. Since accidents happen suddenly, the events that are sudden in nature are mostly caused by Rahu. In the varshphal, if Rahu is badly positioned and by virtue of aspects, is becoming malefic, it may cause one to be suddenly involved in accidents. Illness is even more complicated. Each planet has specific disease associated with it. During its maleficity, a planet may cause a specific type of disease or illness. Frankly, it is hard to predict; at least I don't know how to be definitive about it. Vedic astrology may provide more clues and indications. LalKitab needs more research in this area. } 2.These days janam kundlis prepared by Lal Kitab pundits state mahadasha,sub-periods etc. from DOB.Please clarify as to how one finds out the Grah at the time of birth and its period and sub-periods as it is quite different from vedic janam kundali. { Mahadasha has a totally different connotation in LalKitab versus Vedic astrology. This topic, in regards to application to LalKitab has come up for discussion in the past, here and in other forums, and many people claim to understand it. But no one has succeeded to provide any convincing proof that they understand this or have utilized this in a practical sense. LalKitab does talk about it but unfortunately, does not give any examples of its usage. Having discussed this with many fellow LalKitab enthusiasts, I have dropped this topic altogether. Only the janma waqt ka grah and janma din ka grah, have practical use. And these too, have relevance when one's full birth details are not known but an educated guess is needed for remedial purposes. I would like to emphasize that this is my personal observation and the fellow LalKitab enthusiasts may or may not agree with me. } With regards and best wishes, Sincerely, kiranjeet Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Prafulla Jee, That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not downright harmful. If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has been discussed in various mail messages. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Members > > Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic astrology > student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed excellent > application by few fellow astrologers. > > I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the same > planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Yog Raj Jee, That is a very astute observation by you. If I may, I'd like to add another factor in this reference. There is an " achaank choT " aspect which also has been helpful in explaining these sudden occurances. Although the table is given in LalKitab, let me take the liberty of reproducing it below: Planet/s in May Hit Suddenly the House this/these houses =============================== 1 3, 7, 11 2 4 3 1 4 10,6 5 7 6 4 7 1, 5, 9 8 10 9 7 10 4,8,12 11 1 12 10 This is a very interesting pattern. Based on my observations, this is applicable in annual progressed charts quite effectively. I have not been able to predict sudden calamity in one's life based on this yet but I have been able to observe this pattern being effective while doing what I call a " post-mortem " or, after-the-fact justification. Till I am sure that I can do so (predict) based on this technique, with a reasonable degree of accuracy, I won't make predictions of upcoming calamities. Otherwise a planet in each house can hit one or more houses. In that case, all the twelve months become dangerous. Let us not raise any more " vaham " is what I want to emphasize. Unfortunately. these aspects have not been explained in LalKitab. This needs more research and observation. I'd invite all to experiment with this and even observe incidents that have taken place in the past and learn from them. If someone can get a case-study together and write to the forum, it will be very beneficial for all of us. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: Respected Bhatia Sahib, A very enlightening explanation indeed. Sir, I would like to add a few words (with your kind permission) in addition to your most scholarly respond. In my humble opinion, one likely cause of sudden incidents of illnesses, accidents and other unfortunate occurrence etc. is “Dhokhe ka Grah” and the other is “Pitri Rin” in a natives chart. Both of these terms are a bit technical in nature and unfortunately people often overlook these crucial factors while analyzing but, I have seen in numerous charts that these two factors are mainly responsible for unseen and unexpected difficulties. Kindly correct me if I am wrong. Regards Yograj Prabhakar Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Kiranjit Jee, Please see my reply enclosed in { } because fonts sometimes are over-ridden. Rajinder Bhatia kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: dear bhatia ji, your reply is very apt. When it is said that the Sun in 7th house is melefic,that is a general statement that Sun usually is melefic in 7th house as it is very likely to affect Venus melefically. Bhatia ji, i have a couple of questions;please clarify- i have not been able to find it out myself: 1.How to find out about sudden illnesses,accidents etc. from janam kundli or birth charts as par Lal Kitab? { This is a difficult one to answer. Since accidents happen suddenly, the events that are sudden in nature are mostly caused by Rahu. In the varshphal, if Rahu is badly positioned and by virtue of aspects, is becoming malefic, it may cause one to be suddenly involved in accidents. Illness is even more complicated. Each planet has specific disease associated with it. During its maleficity, a planet may cause a specific type of disease or illness. Frankly, it is hard to predict; at least I don't know how to be definitive about it. Vedic astrology may provide more clues and indications. LalKitab needs more research in this area. } 2.These days janam kundlis prepared by Lal Kitab pundits state mahadasha,sub-periods etc. from DOB.Please clarify as to how one finds out the Grah at the time of birth and its period and sub-periods as it is quite different from vedic janam kundali. { Mahadasha has a totally different connotation in LalKitab versus Vedic astrology. This topic, in regards to application to LalKitab has come up for discussion in the past, here and in other forums, and many people claim to understand it. But no one has succeeded to provide any convincing proof that they understand this or have utilized this in a practical sense. LalKitab does talk about it but unfortunately, does not give any examples of its usage. Having discussed this with many fellow LalKitab enthusiasts, I have dropped this topic altogether. Only the janma waqt ka grah and janma din ka grah, have practical use. And these too, have relevance when one's full birth details are not known but an educated guess is needed for remedial purposes. I would like to emphasize that this is my personal observation and the fellow LalKitab enthusiasts may or may not agree with me. } With regards and best wishes, Sincerely, kiranjeet Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Prafulla Jee, That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not downright harmful. If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has been discussed in various mail messages. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Members > > Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic astrology > student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed excellent > application by few fellow astrologers. > > I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the same > planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Many many thanks Bhatia ji. This tallies with my understanding of Lal Kitab and whatever I had understood from attending Pt.Roop Lal's gatherings at his village.Thanks A lot. sincerely, kiranjit Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Kiranjit Jee, Please see my reply enclosed in { } because fonts sometimes are over-ridden. Rajinder Bhatia kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: dear bhatia ji, your reply is very apt. When it is said that the Sun in 7th house is melefic,that is a general statement that Sun usually is melefic in 7th house as it is very likely to affect Venus melefically. Bhatia ji, i have a couple of questions;please clarify- i have not been able to find it out myself: 1.How to find out about sudden illnesses,accidents etc. from janam kundli or birth charts as par Lal Kitab? { This is a difficult one to answer. Since accidents happen suddenly, the events that are sudden in nature are mostly caused by Rahu. In the varshphal, if Rahu is badly positioned and by virtue of aspects, is becoming malefic, it may cause one to be suddenly involved in accidents. Illness is even more complicated. Each planet has specific disease associated with it. During its maleficity, a planet may cause a specific type of disease or illness. Frankly, it is hard to predict; at least I don't know how to be definitive about it. Vedic astrology may provide more clues and indications. LalKitab needs more research in this area. } 2.These days janam kundlis prepared by Lal Kitab pundits state mahadasha,sub-periods etc. from DOB.Please clarify as to how one finds out the Grah at the time of birth and its period and sub-periods as it is quite different from vedic janam kundali. { Mahadasha has a totally different connotation in LalKitab versus Vedic astrology. This topic, in regards to application to LalKitab has come up for discussion in the past, here and in other forums, and many people claim to understand it. But no one has succeeded to provide any convincing proof that they understand this or have utilized this in a practical sense. LalKitab does talk about it but unfortunately, does not give any examples of its usage. Having discussed this with many fellow LalKitab enthusiasts, I have dropped this topic altogether. Only the janma waqt ka grah and janma din ka grah, have practical use. And these too, have relevance when one's full birth details are not known but an educated guess is needed for remedial purposes. I would like to emphasize that this is my personal observation and the fellow LalKitab enthusiasts may or may not agree with me. } With regards and best wishes, Sincerely, kiranjeet Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: Prafulla Jee, That is the basic premise of LalKitab. A planet in a particular house can be benefic for some and malefic for the others. Per LaKitab, how a planet effects an individual's life, depends upon one's environment and surroundings, one's inherited sins/good karma etc. Each planet has certain peculiarites associated with it as given in LalKitab. Some of these peculiarities would mean that the planet is a benefic one while the others would signify a maleficity associated with it. You as a practitioner of LalKitab have to be able to distinguish between the two. If the planet is a benefic one, then the description given in " nek haalat " will be evident and similarly " mandee haalat " will be evident. AFTER you have established that a planet is in malefic condition, only then should you attempt to suggest a remedial measure. Unnecessarily giving out remedial measures will be an exercise in futility, if not downright harmful. If you read through the old messages, you will find that this topic has been discussed in various mail messages. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia lalkitab , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Members > > Many years back, I bought lal kitab (photocopy publishing of " typed " > copy) and tried to read / comprehend it. Somehow, being vedic astrology > student - I could not understand the rationale (as in many ways - it > was defying fundamentals of vedic astrology). Yes, I observed excellent > application by few fellow astrologers. > > I have downloaded reading materials from the file section of group and > will read them. However, one thing, I am yet confused is about the same > planet being malefic or benefic. For example - if lal kitab considers > sun in 7th as malefic, then how can it be benefic. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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