an Email about Bhav Spashta technique..yograj ji

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Respected Yograj Ji,

Very good mail indeed.

Baani Mukharjee

 

lalkitab , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar>

wrote:

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> Dear Dvivedi ji,

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> I was very thrilled to find a good LK student in you initially. You

were among the selected ones, whose postings were not deleted by me

without reading. But your outburst against our senior Guru Sh.

Rajinder Bhatia ji has really disappointed me. well I am 101% with

anyone who has blind faith in the revered Lal Kitab and its

principles. Since I belong to the old school of Lal Kitab, for me,

any deviation from its rules is like a great sin.

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> Please try to make equilibrium between your HOSH and JOSH if you

want this sacrosanct book's blessings. Learn to give full respect to

the Gurujans. I will not use any harsh word, but would like to share

a story. I hope that you will be able to judge yourself what I want

to convey. I would like to make myself clear that I am not targeting

anyone. If someone finds it hurting I render my unconditional apology

in advance.

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> Once there was a so-called Vidwaan (learned) Pundit ji in a village

of Punjab. Whose authority among the illiterate populace was

unchallenged for a long time. Once a Baraat (Marriage Party) came to

that village, which was accompanied by a truly learned Pundit ji from

the city. They invited the village Pundit ji for a Shastrarth (Debate

and discussion over holy Shastras) with their Pundit.

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> The village Pundit ji who was well aware of his capabilities turned

down the request initially. But the villagers requested him to join

the debate since it was an issue of prestige for the village. After

his initial reluctance, Pundit ji finally decided to oblige.

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> A high Chabootra (stage) was prepared and decorated for the

occasion. In the evening the stage was set, the whole village and the

marriage party assembled there to witness the clash of Titans. City

Pundit ji was the first to took his seat, whereas Village Pundit was

still to join. After sometime, village Pundit ji finally arrived

there and took his seat besides the city Pundit.

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> The learned and sophisticated city Pundit respectfully folded his

hands and said :

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> " MAHARAJ KUCHH UCHRO " (Please utter something sir!).

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> The village Pundit who never read a single word of Sanskrit got

confused, since it was a prestige issue he promptly replied loudly:

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> " UCHRO-MUCHRO-DHUCHRO " .

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> The villagers cheered him vigorously. Now it was the turn of city

Pundit to get confused. He asked the village Pundit:

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> " EH KEE? " (What is this?).

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> Encouraged by the village supporters, the village Pundit ji didn't

lose a moment, and fired:

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> " EHKEE – NEHKEE-THEKEE " .

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> The city Pundit shook his head in disbelief, and the villagers

without wasting any time rushed to the stage and lift their Pundit ji

on the shoulders and start shouting:

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> " SADA PUNDIT JITT GAYA - SADA PUNDIT JITT GAYA " (Our Pundit ji has

won-Our Pundit ji has won).

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> Moral of the story:

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> The " UCHRO-MUCHRO-DHUCHRO " factor is very badly damaging the cause

of Lal Kitab astrology. Please recognize and follow the right people

and the right path.

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> May Lal Kitab bless you.

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> Yograj Prabhakar

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> lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote:

> Respected Dvivedi ji

> I read ur letter but i want to say that Bhatia ji favoured all over

> times about only lalkitab in the group.Lekin aap bhi jaantey hain

ki

> yadi bichchhoo (Scorpio) ke jehar ka bhi mantra nahi aataa ho to

> saanp (snake) ke bill main haath nahi daalnaa chahiye.Aur is group

> maim abhi tak lalkitab ke ABC tak ko log touch nahi kar paatey aur

> XYZ ka lozic dhondhne lagtey hain.Kya ye thik hai ? Aise main agar

> bhatia ji ne sirf lalkitab per hi concerntrate hone ke liye bola to

> kyaa gunah kiya.Rahi baat Bahin priya ke peeth peechhey bolne ki to

> group main is baat ki shoorveerta dikhnae se bhatia ji ko kyaa

profit

> hoga.Mere jaise insaan ke baare main boltey to shayd kisi had tak

> thik bhi hotaa.Lekin bahin priyaa se poochhna ki maine unhain bola

> tha ki aapne seperate group kyon banaaya aur ise kyon chhod diyaa?

Ab

> to is group main disscussiona ka atmosphere banaa tha. I appriciate

> the caliber of Bhooshanpriyaa ji but i disagree with the technique

of

> bhavspasht.Because im confused how she was using bhavspasht. Is she

> used only bhavarambh & bhavmadhya or any more.Because vinshiopakbal

> is nessecry there to know.In perview of vinshopakbal if we use

> remedial then wat is use of rashichakra according to lalkitab.Then

we

> must centralised at only bhavspasht.But lalkitab is based at

> rashichakra.I think if we go to classical astrology ,we will

confused

> to decide remedies.Lalkitab ki predection karya-karan ke aadhar

per

> hain jabki prachin jyotish ke mutabik nishchit hai. Agar bhavspasht

> se yeh clear ho jaaye ki yeh bhav kamjor hai to bhi hum bhaav ko

> secure kaRAIN ya bhavfal ko ya grahfal ko ya rashifal ko ,yeh ek

> sawaal khadaa hi reh jayegaa.Isiliye lalkitab main kayam grah ka

> byoura hai.Bhavspasht ke baad bhi shakki grah kyaa hogaa iska

> nishchay kaise hogaa kyaa aap bataa saktey hain.Aur jo shakki grah

> hai use yadi bhavspasht se nishchit ker bhi liya to uskaa upay

> batatey huye uskaa asar bhavspasht ke mutabik lenge ya rashichakra

ke

> mutabik.gaur se dekho kya bhavspasht ke baad lalkitab ka system

ulat

> palat hota hua nahi lagtaa?Lalkitab ka tarika purane jyotish se

alagh

> hai, isiliye lalkitab main likha hai ki purane jyotish se banayee

> kundli ko filhaal istemaal kiyaa jaaye lekin purane jyotish ko

ismain

> analyze kartey huye milaayaa na jaaye.Main ek letter main to nahi

> samjhaa saktaa lekin agar priyaa ji hoti to unse disscussion jaroor

> kartaa.Aap mere words ko tod marod kerab jo marzi sawaal karain

lekin

> thik yahi hai ki lalkitab ko lalkitab ke tarike se hi padhnaa uar

> samajhna behter hai.If i hurted ur imotions to priya ji then

> sorry ,in fact i also respect bahin priya but it doesnt mean that

i

> disrespect u or Bhatia ji. Group hai disscussions to hotey hi hain

> hote rahengey ,kabhi garam kabhi naram, lekin shabdon ki maryaada

to

> rakhni chahiye.Aapko bhi hamain bhi. Varnaa yeh sach hai ki ye

group

> main jo thodi bahut lalkitab bachi hai vo bhi nash ho jayegi.Rahi

> baat meri activities ki to main to aise hi ramtaa jogi behtaa paani

> ki tarah aungaa aur man karegaa to disscusions main participate

> karoongaa varnaa nahi.Aur bahin priya ji ne apne group main jis

> tarike se mail ka response diya hai vo kabil a taarif hai. Lekin

aisa

> niswarth roop se vahi ker saktaa hai, jiske paas paropkaar ki

bhavnaa

> ke saath saath bharpoor samay hai. Lekein jaraa apne ander jhaank

> ker dekhiye ki kyaa aap vaisa ker saktey hain , agar aap nahi ker

> saktey to kisi doosrey ko iske liye shabdon ke teer chalaaker

majboor

> bhi nahi ker saktey .

> With regards

> Lalkitabee

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> lalkitab , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd>

wrote:

> > Respected Bhatia ji,

> >

> > This is unethical. We saw the debate between you and the 'person'

> on

> > many occasions. Every time you lost badly. chahe rahu

representing

> > fire ho ya chandra nashta ki baat , ya phir grah drishti ki baat.

> On

> > this topic of bhav-spashtha also a lot of discusion was

> > done. 'person' ne aap ki bolti band kardee thi .

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> > Aap jante hai ki woh 'person' quotes the book for every thing.

aaj

> > woh is group ka sadasya nahi hai , yeh ochhapan hai ki peeth

pechhe

> > kisi ki burai karana. us 'person' ki prashansha karni chahiye ki

> > apana alag group banakar is group se achha chal raha hai.More

than

> > 700 messages in a month. Can you do this?

> >

> > woh group exclusivly Lal Kitab ka group hai aur is group mein to

> Lal

> > Kitab bachi hi nahi. Ab Lal Kitab ka wohi asli group hai.

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> > Phir yeh kaise manliya jaye ki bhav-spashtha karna galat hai?

> > Woh 'person' Lal Kitab ka vidwan hai. Internat par aaj us se bara

> LK

> > vidwan koi nahi hai . Aisa vidwan bahut soch samajh kar koi

technik

> > use karata hai. woh 'person' bhav-spashtha mazak mein istemal

nahi

> > karta. 'person' works hard , harder than you.

> >

> > yadi apko meri koi baat galat lagi ho to kshama karden. Mein jo

> sach

> > hoga wohi kahunga, pahale bhi kaha hai aur ab bhi kahoonga.

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> > respectfully,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

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> > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

> > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> > >

> > > Friends,

> > > I am forwarding a letter that came to me addressed personally.

> > > Rajinder Bhatia.

> > > ==========================================================

> > >

> > > Anil Jee,

> > > I am firmly convinced that the application of Bhav Spashta

> > technique as applied to LalKitab methodology is not only un-

needed

> > but also, absolutely wrong. This is like using high octane

gasoline

> > (because it is more refined) in a car built with a diesel engine.

> If

> > we were to go by the Bhav spashta technique then almost every

> > horoscope given in the LalKitab examples (these are real examples

> of

> > real people) would be wrong. Unfortunately, the " owner of the

other

> > group " has been using Bhav Spashta and has been just prescribing

> > remedial measures in wholesale without actually verifying if the

> > horoscope is cast correctly or if the upayas are really needed.

> That

> > is a wrong and a very dangerous technique.

> > >

> > > Your horoscope is correctly cast by your astrolger and it

follows:

> > >

> > >

> > > +--------------+

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / Ju \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | x As x Sa Mo|

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | / \ 12 / \ |

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | Ra x Ke |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | \ / \ / |

> > > | x Me x |

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | / \ / \ |

> > > | / Su \ / Ma \ |

> > > | / Ve \ / \ |

> > > +--------------+

> > >

> > >

> > > Your horoscope shows a " love marriage " and at least one son. I

> > would suggest that your wife should always wear a pure gold clip

in

> > her hair and should refrain from remaining bare-footed. Your

family

> > life will improve tremendously and will also bring your wife's

> > potential health problems (mostly woman-related health issues or

> > skin-related issues) under control. Also, bring home something

from

> > a temple which has been offered by someone else (like a coin -

> place

> > a five Rupee coin and pick a one Rupee coin) and place this in

your

> > residence. No need to bury seven copper pieces - that is

> > potentially harmful. No need to do the Moong filled copper

vessel -

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> > you will mess up your Mercury which though aspected by Jupiter,

> will

> > remove its good effects. The Moon is not in the twelfth - no

need

> > to carry out the Rain water upaya.

> > >

> > > The upaya suggested (in the other group) for Mars in the eighth

> > should be performed.

> > >

> > > I wish you well.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > > Rajinder Bhatia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > anilb_999 <wonderhands@r...> wrote:

> > > Respected Bhatia ji,

> > > Just out of curiosity and interest in astrology, I stumbled

upon

> > your

> > > LalKitab group. I have seen you sincerely contributing in the

> > group .

> > > Can I take the liberty of bothering you with a personal

problem ?

> > >

> > > In a different Lalkitab group, I raised the following querry to

> > seek

> > > guidence in matter of career and marital harmony.

> > > DoB: 1920 Hrs. Saharanpur UP India 02.09.1963

> > > Planetary position as indicated in the traditional horoscope:

1.

> > Lagna

> > > : Pisces – Jupiter,

> > > 4. Gemini – rahu; 6. Leo – Sun & venus; 7. Virgo –

> > > Mercury; 8. Libra

> > > – Mars, 10. Capricorn- Ketu; 11. Capricorn – Saturn 12.

> > > Aquarius

> > > – moon] DoB: 1920 Hrs. Saharanpur UP 02.09.1963

> > >

> > > One expert in thr group opined that with this time, the

planetray

> > > position is not correct and except for mercury and mars, all

> > planets

> > > would move to next house after bhav spashtha. He suggested

based

> on

> > > the 'new' positions the following remedies:

> > > [ 1 ] sun and venus join the mercury in the seventh.

> > > This combination invariably causes marital discord , at times

very

> > > serious. Therefore:

> > > { a } Immerse in flowing water sabut moong filled in a

> > > copper ghara.

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> > > [ 2 ] For moon in the 12th : Keep at home a little

> > > rain water in a

> > > bottle.

> > >

> > > [ 3 ] For mars in the 8th :

> > > { a } Bury in a cremation ground or a burial place a

> > > little honey in an earthen pot.

> > > { b } wear a small square piece of silver in a silver

> > > chain round your neck.

> > >

> > > To remove hurdles in career:

> > >

> > > [ 1 ] Bury in a place where grass grows seven square

> > > pieces of copper.

> > > [ 2 ] Before doing any thing important eat some thing

> > > sweet and drink a little water.

> > >

> > > With due respect, my question is there could be a little error

in

> > > recording time. However, my belief is that the horoscope I have

is

> > > correct. (My mother remembers the Pandit having told her that

the

> > > nakshatra for the child is Dhanistha and nam rashi akshar 'gu' )

> > >

> > > I have seen you posing question to ascertain the authenticity of

> > > horoscope. Could you kindly assist ?

> > > The notable developments in the life of native have been:

> > > i. the person could complete only graduation inspite of above

> > average

> > > intellectual capability. Aquired professional skills through

self

> > > learning.

> > > ii. Married in 1985-86 -a love marriage against wishes of

parents

> > but

> > > settled amicably with them. Period of struggle till 1990 as own

> > > Institute did not do well.

> > > iii. Change of place in 1990-91 and situation improved in

service.

> > > iv. Had a son in 1993.

> > > v. Built house in 2001-02.

> > > vi. Travels abroad frequently since 1994 though without much

> > > gains.

> > > vii. Good record of marital bliss except the except the march-

june

> > > 2005 period.

> > > viii.well read and well respected in development field. Has

> > authroed a

> > > couple of books and contributes to financial papers.

> > >

> > > Third of four siblings; two elder sisters and one brother.

> Sisters

> > are

> > > well setteld but uonger brother has been a cause of embrassment

> for

> > > family- still unsettled in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > I would be ever grateful for your guidence.

> > >

> > > warm regards

> > > Anil Kumar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mail

> > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour