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Dear Jai ji

Well I hope you can spare some of your valuable time and provide

the answers from your research. There is no hurry here, but I found

an interesting thing that in both the 2005 charts, (i.e., the next

year's varshphal chart which is starting soon around 20th/21st july

2005)various planets are in favorable position when compared to 2004

varshphal chart. So career and finances would become better for both

soon?? what's the relation between lal kitab based varshphal chart

and birth chart here, as far as predictions are concerned?

 

Thanks and Regards

Rajesh .

 

 

lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria "

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> Dear Jai ji

> Well I appreciate your time and efforts again. Well here is what I

> know (what's not common): Well both are Engineering Graduates but

> one is involved in Computers and Software, while other is involved

> in Civil Engg and Water Sanitation type projects. They have gone

> thru several job changes but one is working at present as

mentioned

> earlier. One who was involved in Computers, SOftware had several

> employment and unemployment periods, while the other had almost

> continuous employment for last 15/18 years. That's the real

surprize

> here, considering the fact that Rashi chakra is same!

>

> Hope these details can help you and keep this puzzle alive. At

this

> stage I am more interested in future predictions and remedies, the

> puzzle is being kept alive just for your personal interest only.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Rajesh Kumaria.

>

>

> lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > I had done the extensive study on both the charts and had

> developed two set

> > of reasonings.Thats why I asked whether you are the second

person.

> Now it

> > will let me work on the second set of reasoning and go ahead

with

> it. You

> > need to provide me with some details which are not common among

> them.

> > Best regards

> > Jai

> >

> >

> > On 6/28/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jai ji

> > > Well first of all, I really appreciate that you spared some of

> your

> > > valuable time to solve the puzzle. Now you have put me in a

> complex

> > > position..Since I do not know your reasonings, so I will wait

for

> > > that. Well the original puzzle was as follows:

> > >

> > > (i) who is unemployed at present and who is employed at

> > > present.

> > >

> > > (ii) Also second question is where are they now? i.e., who is

> > > working abroad and who is working in home country at

> > > present? or rather say are they both at home country now or

both

> > > abroad?it can be any of the possible combinations.

> > >

> > > Now you are trying to identify me as second person(I already

told

> > > you that I am facing tough financial times and may be this is

> > > influencing your thinking..well let's say thatboth are facing

> tough

> > > financial effects)and that has created a new question/answer in

> > > itself. If I say, yes then will that help to solve the original

> > > puzzle and possibly answer question(iii) regarding future and

> > > remedies?

> > >

> > > But if I say, No..then does that mean that the puzzle is over

and

> > > now you can simply move to answer question(iii) regarding

future

> and

> > > remedies? Hope you understand my dilemma to keep this puzzle

> alive!

> > >

> > >

> > > Well I think that I will still try to keep the original puzzle

> alive

> > > and also try to answer your question. So the real answer is:

NO,

> I

> > > am not the second person in the puzzle. So obviously I am the

> first

> > > perosn in the puzzle(but this is just to answer your

question..i

> > > really do'nt know how it will help you)....so at least I have

> been

> > > identified here.

> > >

> > > ....Hope this helps you to solve the original puzzle and

possibly

> > > give more solutions. I will await anxiously your reasonings and

> > > please also give answers to original puzzle questions(since I

am

> one

> > > of the natives in the puzzle and also a student who is learning

> > > here).

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...>

> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > > I seem to have solved the puzzle. I am telling you who is

who

> and

> > > will give

> > > > full analysis once I know I am true or not. Else I will

> reanalyse.

> > > It is not

> > > > fluke and I shall post the reasoning behind this once I know

I

> am

> > > right or

> > > > wrong.

> > > > *You are the second person* in the data provided by you.

> > > > Am I right ?

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > > Jai

> > > > On 6/21/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Jai ji

> > > > > I am still waiting...please note that I am also personally

> > > involved

> > > > > in this since one of the charts is mine also.

> > > > >

> > > > > So in a sense I am also looking for better finances and

> facing

> > > tough

> > > > > financial times thesedays. The other person just happened

to

> > > contact

> > > > > me and I found that both charts are so identical, yet only

> one is

> > > > > facing more troubles financially, compared to other(well

the

> > > puzzle

> > > > > still stands true and is still open for all).

> > > > >

> > > > > All suggestions and analysis are welcome here..also my

> knowledge

> > > of

> > > > > lal kitab is very limited and just limited to published

> articles

> > > of

> > > > > avrious groups only. Hope you can spare some of your

valuable

> > > time

> > > > > and provide the analysis and remedies(i think from lal

kitab

> > > point

> > > > > of view both charts are identical and the puzzle hardly

> matters

> > > for

> > > > > lal kitab based analysis and remedies...or does it matter

> who is

> > > who

> > > > > here? i won't identify who is really who here, just to

keep

> the

> > > > > puzzle alive until it gets solved by lal kitab)

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards

> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria "

> > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Jai Nahata ji

> > > > > > I appreciate your interests..will wait for your kind

> > > analysis...At

> > > > > > present I am struggling with internet issues and so it

will

> > > take

> > > > > me

> > > > > > some time to reply to any emails until my computer gets

> fixed.

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata

> <jaynahata@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > > > > > You have posted something really interesting and soon

I

> will

> > > be

> > > > > > posting my

> > > > > > > analysis on this. But I have time limitations. So it

will

> > > take

> > > > > me

> > > > > > some time

> > > > > > > to write my posting. But I will definitely like to

solve

> the

> > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > Jai

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 6/2/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sorry for posting this again..just to get the kind

> > > attention of

> > > > > > > > GURUJANS and learned members..please give your

valuable

> > > > > > > > comments/astrological reasonings and remedies.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards..Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria "

> > > > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Respected Members

> > > > > > > > > Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > This is my very first message. Thanks for giving me

> > > generous

> > > > > > > > > persmission to join your good group.I was quite

> > > impressed by

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > archieves and help rendered to various natives.

Now I

> > > need

> > > > > help

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > these two natives who want to get job and/or

improve

> > > their

> > > > > > > > financial

> > > > > > > > > condition..one is unemployed for long time now and

> other

> > > one

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > employed. They both have identical Rashi charts and

> > > Aquarius

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > (born almost within 24 hrs of each other!). ALso I

> have

> > > > > > presented

> > > > > > > > > this as a puzzle on another list. May be some one

> may be

> > > > > > > > interested

> > > > > > > > > to solve the puzzle also. In any case please let

me

> know

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > required remedies and I will convey to the natives.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> ____________

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now here's a small puzzle with some hints(you can

> call

> > > it a

> > > > > > > > > challenge, if you like..but should not be very

hard

> to

> > > > > guess,

> > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > i do not like hard puzzles myself.)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here are two almost identical horoscopes of two

> > > individuals,

> > > > > > born

> > > > > > > > > within almost exactly 24 hrs of each other in same

> time

> > > zone

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > having same Rashi Chakra and Lagna...one of them

has

> > > worked

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > several years, has gone thru lots of employment

> related

> > > > > changes

> > > > > > > > > and is currently looking for job, although he/she

was

> > > working

> > > > > > > > > recently few months ago.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Other one has also worked for several years and

gone

> thru

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > changes(but fewer chnages than other person) , but

> > > he/she is

> > > > > > > > > gainfully employed at present.(now).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have to find who is who and who is where now?

> i.e.,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (i) who is unemployed at present and who is

employed

> at

> > > > > present.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (ii) Also second question is where are they now?

> i.e.,

> > > who is

> > > > > > > > > working abroad and who is working in home country

at

> > > > > present? or

> > > > > > > > > rather say are they both at home country now or

both

> > > abroad?

> > > > > it

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > be any of the possible combinations.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (iii) Also when do you think they will be most

> successful

> > > > > > > > > financially and who's most likely to more

successful

> > > > > > financially? I

> > > > > > > > > will convey this answer to the relevant persons.

> Since

> > > they

> > > > > both

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > asking this question(this is an optional request

> only)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Person 1:

> > > > > > > > > 20th July 1961

> > > > > > > > > 9:50 PM IST (India 5:30 hours ahead of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > Longitude: 80 E 55

> > > > > > > > > Latitude: 26 N 51

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Person 2:

> > > > > > > > > 21st July 1961

> > > > > > > > > 9:57 PM IST ((India 5:30 hours ahead of GMT))

> > > > > > > > > Longitude:77 E 42

> > > > > > > > > Latitude: 29 N 16

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please also give your astrological reasonings and

my

> > > > > > > > > real purpose is to learn something here and convey

> the

> > > > > remedies

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > get job/improve financial condition to the relevant

> > > persons.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Dear Rajesh ji,

 

I will be posting soon on this topic. Regarding the next year's results they can not be exactly the same.There will be some marked differences. I will try to post soon on this. Currently since I am not keeping good health it might take me some time.

 

 

Best regards

 

Jai

 

On 7/6/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:

Dear Jai jiWell I hope you can spare some of your valuable time and providethe answers from your research. There is no hurry here, but I found

an interesting thing that in both the 2005 charts, (i.e., the nextyear's varshphal chart which is starting soon around 20th/21st july2005)various planets are in favorable position when compared to 2004varshphal chart. So career and finances would become better for both

soon?? what's the relation between lal kitab based varshphal chartand birth chart here, as far as predictions are concerned?Thanks and RegardsRajesh .

lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria " <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> Dear Jai ji> Well I appreciate your time and efforts again. Well here is what I> know (what's not common): Well both are Engineering Graduates but

> one is involved in Computers and Software, while other is involved> in Civil Engg and Water Sanitation type projects. They have gone> thru several job changes but one is working at present asmentioned

> earlier. One who was involved in Computers, SOftware had several> employment and unemployment periods, while the other had almost> continuous employment for last 15/18 years. That's the realsurprize

> here, considering the fact that Rashi chakra is same!>> Hope these details can help you and keep this puzzle alive. Atthis> stage I am more interested in future predictions and remedies, the

> puzzle is being kept alive just for your personal interest only.>> Thanks and Regards> Rajesh Kumaria.>>> lalkitab

, Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:> > Dear Rajesh ji,> > I had done the extensive study on both the charts and had> developed two set> > of reasonings.Thats why I asked whether you are the second

person.> Now it> > will let me work on the second set of reasoning and go aheadwith> it. You> > need to provide me with some details which are not common among> them.> > Best regards

> > Jai> >> >> > On 6/28/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jai ji> > > Well first of all, I really appreciate that you spared some of

> your> > > valuable time to solve the puzzle. Now you have put me in a> complex> > > position..Since I do not know your reasonings, so I will waitfor> > > that. Well the original puzzle was as follows:

> > >> > > (i) who is unemployed at present and who is employed at> > > present.> > >> > > (ii) Also second question is where are they now? i.e., who is

> > > working abroad and who is working in home country at> > > present? or rather say are they both at home country now orboth> > > abroad?it can be any of the possible combinations.

> > >> > > Now you are trying to identify me as second person(I alreadytold> > > you that I am facing tough financial times and may be this is> > > influencing your thinking..well let's say thatboth are facing

> tough> > > financial effects)and that has created a new question/answer in> > > itself. If I say, yes then will that help to solve the original> > > puzzle and possibly answer question(iii) regarding future and

> > > remedies?> > >> > > But if I say, No..then does that mean that the puzzle is overand> > > now you can simply move to answer question(iii) regardingfuture

> and> > > remedies? Hope you understand my dilemma to keep this puzzle> alive!> > >> > >> > > Well I think that I will still try to keep the original puzzle

> alive> > > and also try to answer your question. So the real answer is:NO,> I> > > am not the second person in the puzzle. So obviously I am the> first> > > perosn in the puzzle(but this is just to answer your

question..i> > > really do'nt know how it will help you)....so at least I have> been> > > identified here.> > >> > > ....Hope this helps you to solve the original puzzle and

possibly> > > give more solutions. I will await anxiously your reasonings and> > > please also give answers to original puzzle questions(since Iam> one> > > of the natives in the puzzle and also a student who is learning

> > > here).> > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Rajesh Kumaria> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...>> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh ji,> > > > I seem to have solved the puzzle. I am telling you who iswho> and

> > > will give> > > > full analysis once I know I am true or not. Else I will> reanalyse.> > > It is not> > > > fluke and I shall post the reasoning behind this once I know

I> am> > > right or> > > > wrong.> > > > *You are the second person* in the data provided by you.> > > > Am I right ?> > > >> > > > Best regards

> > > > Jai> > > > On 6/21/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Jai ji> > > > > I am still waiting...please note that I am also personally

> > > involved> > > > > in this since one of the charts is mine also.> > > > >> > > > > So in a sense I am also looking for better finances and> facing

> > > tough> > > > > financial times thesedays. The other person just happenedto> > > contact> > > > > me and I found that both charts are so identical, yet only

> one is> > > > > facing more troubles financially, compared to other(wellthe> > > puzzle> > > > > still stands true and is still open for all).> > > > >

> > > > > All suggestions and analysis are welcome here..also my> knowledge> > > of> > > > > lal kitab is very limited and just limited to published> articles

> > > of> > > > > avrious groups only. Hope you can spare some of yourvaluable> > > time> > > > > and provide the analysis and remedies(i think from lal

kitab> > > point> > > > > of view both charts are identical and the puzzle hardly> matters> > > for> > > > > lal kitab based analysis and remedies...or does it matter

> who is> > > who> > > > > here? i won't identify who is really who here, just tokeep> the> > > > > puzzle alive until it gets solved by lal kitab)> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > >> > > > > lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria "

> > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jai Nahata ji> > > > > > I appreciate your interests..will wait for your kind> > > analysis...At

> > > > > > present I am struggling with internet issues and so itwill> > > take> > > > > me> > > > > > some time to reply to any emails until my computer gets

> fixed.> > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > lalkitab

, Jai Nahata> <jaynahata@g...>> > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Rajesh ji,> > > > > > > You have posted something really interesting and soon

I> will> > > be> > > > > > posting my> > > > > > > analysis on this. But I have time limitations. So itwill> > > take> > > > > me

> > > > > > some time> > > > > > > to write my posting. But I will definitely like tosolve> the> > > > > puzzle.> > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > Jai> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 6/2/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>> wrote:> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sorry for posting this again..just to get the kind> > > attention of> > > > > > > > GURUJANS and learned members..please give yourvaluable

> > > > > > > > comments/astrological reasonings and remedies.> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards..Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria " > > > > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Respected Members

> > > > > > > > > Namaskar> > > > > > > > > This is my very first message. Thanks for giving me> > > generous> > > > > > > > > persmission to join your good group.I was quite> > > impressed by> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > archieves and help rendered to various natives.Now I> > > need> > > > > help

> > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > these two natives who want to get job and/orimprove> > > their> > > > > > > > financial

> > > > > > > > > condition..one is unemployed for long time now and> other> > > one> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > employed. They both have identical Rashi charts and

> > > Aquarius> > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > (born almost within 24 hrs of each other!). ALso I> have> > > > > > presented

> > > > > > > > > this as a puzzle on another list. May be some one> may be> > > > > > > > interested> > > > > > > > > to solve the puzzle also. In any case please let

me> know> > > the> > > > > > > > > required remedies and I will convey to the natives.> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> ____________> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now here's a small puzzle with some hints(you can> call> > > it a> > > > > > > > > challenge, if you like..but should not be very

hard> to> > > > > guess,> > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > i do not like hard puzzles myself.)> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here are two almost identical horoscopes of two> > > individuals,> > > > > > born> > > > > > > > > within almost exactly 24 hrs of each other in same

> time> > > zone> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > having same Rashi Chakra and Lagna...one of themhas> > > worked> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > several years, has gone thru lots of employment> related> > > > > changes> > > > > > > > > and is currently looking for job, although he/she

was> > > working> > > > > > > > > recently few months ago.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Other one has also worked for several years and

gone> thru> > > > > some> > > > > > > > > changes(but fewer chnages than other person) , but> > > he/she is> > > > > > > > > gainfully employed at present.(now).

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You have to find who is who and who is where now?> i.e.,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > (i) who is unemployed at present and who is

employed> at> > > > > present.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > (ii) Also second question is where are they now?> i.e.,

> > > who is> > > > > > > > > working abroad and who is working in home countryat> > > > > present? or> > > > > > > > > rather say are they both at home country now or

both> > > abroad?> > > > > it> > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > be any of the possible combinations.> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (iii) Also when do you think they will be most> successful> > > > > > > > > financially and who's most likely to moresuccessful

> > > > > > financially? I> > > > > > > > > will convey this answer to the relevant persons.> Since> > > they> > > > > both> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > asking this question(this is an optional request> only)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Person 1:

> > > > > > > > > 20th July 1961> > > > > > > > > 9:50 PM IST (India 5:30 hours ahead of GMT)> > > > > > > > > Longitude: 80 E 55

> > > > > > > > > Latitude: 26 N 51> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Person 2:> > > > > > > > > 21st July 1961

> > > > > > > > > 9:57 PM IST ((India 5:30 hours ahead of GMT))> > > > > > > > > Longitude:77 E 42> > > > > > > > > Latitude: 29 N 16

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please also give your astrological reasonings andmy> > > > > > > > > real purpose is to learn something here and convey

> the> > > > > remedies> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > get job/improve financial condition to the relevant> > > persons.> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

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Dear Jai ji

Well please do not worry unnecessairly about your analysis etc., I

will wait for that anxiously later...hope you feel better and get

good health soon. I think you should just concentrate on your health

for the time being and try to relax from all this intensive

astrology. I can very well realize that all this deep astrology can

become very intensive when one is not feeling well and getting

entangled in all types of planets etc.,..just try to take it easy

Sir. I wish you good health.

Regards

Rajesh.

lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> Dear Rajesh ji,

> I will be posting soon on this topic. Regarding the next year's

results

> they can not be exactly the same.There will be some marked

differences. I

> will try to post soon on this. Currently since I am not keeping

good health

> it might take me some time.

> Best regards

> Jai

>

>

> On 7/6/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jai ji

> > Well I hope you can spare some of your valuable time and provide

> > the answers from your research. There is no hurry here, but I

found

> > an interesting thing that in both the 2005 charts, (i.e., the

next

> > year's varshphal chart which is starting soon around 20th/21st

july

> > 2005)various planets are in favorable position when compared to

2004

> > varshphal chart. So career and finances would become better for

both

> > soon?? what's the relation between lal kitab based varshphal

chart

> > and birth chart here, as far as predictions are concerned?

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Rajesh .

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria "

> > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > Dear Jai ji

> > > Well I appreciate your time and efforts again. Well here is

what I

> > > know (what's not common): Well both are Engineering Graduates

but

> > > one is involved in Computers and Software, while other is

involved

> > > in Civil Engg and Water Sanitation type projects. They have

gone

> > > thru several job changes but one is working at present as

> > mentioned

> > > earlier. One who was involved in Computers, SOftware had

several

> > > employment and unemployment periods, while the other had almost

> > > continuous employment for last 15/18 years. That's the real

> > surprize

> > > here, considering the fact that Rashi chakra is same!

> > >

> > > Hope these details can help you and keep this puzzle alive. At

> > this

> > > stage I am more interested in future predictions and remedies,

the

> > > puzzle is being kept alive just for your personal interest

only.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Rajesh Kumaria.

> > >

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...>

wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > > I had done the extensive study on both the charts and had

> > > developed two set

> > > > of reasonings.Thats why I asked whether you are the second

> > person.

> > > Now it

> > > > will let me work on the second set of reasoning and go ahead

> > with

> > > it. You

> > > > need to provide me with some details which are not common

among

> > > them.

> > > > Best regards

> > > > Jai

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 6/28/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Jai ji

> > > > > Well first of all, I really appreciate that you spared

some of

> > > your

> > > > > valuable time to solve the puzzle. Now you have put me in a

> > > complex

> > > > > position..Since I do not know your reasonings, so I will

wait

> > for

> > > > > that. Well the original puzzle was as follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > (i) who is unemployed at present and who is employed at

> > > > > present.

> > > > >

> > > > > (ii) Also second question is where are they now? i.e., who

is

> > > > > working abroad and who is working in home country at

> > > > > present? or rather say are they both at home country now or

> > both

> > > > > abroad?it can be any of the possible combinations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now you are trying to identify me as second person(I

already

> > told

> > > > > you that I am facing tough financial times and may be this

is

> > > > > influencing your thinking..well let's say thatboth are

facing

> > > tough

> > > > > financial effects)and that has created a new

question/answer in

> > > > > itself. If I say, yes then will that help to solve the

original

> > > > > puzzle and possibly answer question(iii) regarding future

and

> > > > > remedies?

> > > > >

> > > > > But if I say, No..then does that mean that the puzzle is

over

> > and

> > > > > now you can simply move to answer question(iii) regarding

> > future

> > > and

> > > > > remedies? Hope you understand my dilemma to keep this

puzzle

> > > alive!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well I think that I will still try to keep the original

puzzle

> > > alive

> > > > > and also try to answer your question. So the real answer

is:

> > NO,

> > > I

> > > > > am not the second person in the puzzle. So obviously I am

the

> > > first

> > > > > perosn in the puzzle(but this is just to answer your

> > question..i

> > > > > really do'nt know how it will help you)....so at least I

have

> > > been

> > > > > identified here.

> > > > >

> > > > > ....Hope this helps you to solve the original puzzle and

> > possibly

> > > > > give more solutions. I will await anxiously your

reasonings and

> > > > > please also give answers to original puzzle questions

(since I

> > am

> > > one

> > > > > of the natives in the puzzle and also a student who is

learning

> > > > > here).

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata

<jaynahata@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > > > > I seem to have solved the puzzle. I am telling you who is

> > who

> > > and

> > > > > will give

> > > > > > full analysis once I know I am true or not. Else I will

> > > reanalyse.

> > > > > It is not

> > > > > > fluke and I shall post the reasoning behind this once I

know

> > I

> > > am

> > > > > right or

> > > > > > wrong.

> > > > > > *You are the second person* in the data provided by you.

> > > > > > Am I right ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > Jai

> > > > > > On 6/21/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Jai ji

> > > > > > > I am still waiting...please note that I am also

personally

> > > > > involved

> > > > > > > in this since one of the charts is mine also.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So in a sense I am also looking for better finances and

> > > facing

> > > > > tough

> > > > > > > financial times thesedays. The other person just

happened

> > to

> > > > > contact

> > > > > > > me and I found that both charts are so identical, yet

only

> > > one is

> > > > > > > facing more troubles financially, compared to other

(well

> > the

> > > > > puzzle

> > > > > > > still stands true and is still open for all).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All suggestions and analysis are welcome here..also my

> > > knowledge

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > lal kitab is very limited and just limited to published

> > > articles

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > avrious groups only. Hope you can spare some of your

> > valuable

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > and provide the analysis and remedies(i think from lal

> > kitab

> > > > > point

> > > > > > > of view both charts are identical and the puzzle hardly

> > > matters

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > lal kitab based analysis and remedies...or does it

matter

> > > who is

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > here? i won't identify who is really who here, just to

> > keep

> > > the

> > > > > > > puzzle alive until it gets solved by lal kitab)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab , " Rajesh M. Kumaria "

> > > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Jai Nahata ji

> > > > > > > > I appreciate your interests..will wait for your kind

> > > > > analysis...At

> > > > > > > > present I am struggling with internet issues and so

it

> > will

> > > > > take

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > some time to reply to any emails until my computer

gets

> > > fixed.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata

> > > <jaynahata@g...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > > > > > > > You have posted something really interesting and

soon

> > I

> > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > posting my

> > > > > > > > > analysis on this. But I have time limitations. So

it

> > will

> > > > > take

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > some time

> > > > > > > > > to write my posting. But I will definitely like to

> > solve

> > > the

> > > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > > Jai

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 6/2/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria

<rajeshkumaria2000>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sorry for posting this again..just to get the

kind

> > > > > attention of

> > > > > > > > > > GURUJANS and learned members..please give your

> > valuable

> > > > > > > > > > comments/astrological reasonings and remedies.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards..Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Rajesh M.

Kumaria "

> > > > > > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > This is my very first message. Thanks for

giving me

> > > > > generous

> > > > > > > > > > > persmission to join your good group.I was quite

> > > > > impressed by

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > archieves and help rendered to various natives.

> > Now I

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > these two natives who want to get job and/or

> > improve

> > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > financial

> > > > > > > > > > > condition..one is unemployed for long time now

and

> > > other

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > employed. They both have identical Rashi

charts and

> > > > > Aquarius

> > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > (born almost within 24 hrs of each other!).

ALso I

> > > have

> > > > > > > > presented

> > > > > > > > > > > this as a puzzle on another list. May be some

one

> > > may be

> > > > > > > > > > interested

> > > > > > > > > > > to solve the puzzle also. In any case please

let

> > me

> > > know

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > required remedies and I will convey to the

natives.

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > ____________

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now here's a small puzzle with some hints(you

can

> > > call

> > > > > it a

> > > > > > > > > > > challenge, if you like..but should not be very

> > hard

> > > to

> > > > > > > guess,

> > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > > > i do not like hard puzzles myself.)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here are two almost identical horoscopes of two

> > > > > individuals,

> > > > > > > > born

> > > > > > > > > > > within almost exactly 24 hrs of each other in

same

> > > time

> > > > > zone

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > having same Rashi Chakra and Lagna...one of

them

> > has

> > > > > worked

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > several years, has gone thru lots of employment

> > > related

> > > > > > > changes

> > > > > > > > > > > and is currently looking for job, although

he/she

> > was

> > > > > working

> > > > > > > > > > > recently few months ago.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Other one has also worked for several years and

> > gone

> > > thru

> > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > changes(but fewer chnages than other person) ,

but

> > > > > he/she is

> > > > > > > > > > > gainfully employed at present.(now).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You have to find who is who and who is where

now?

> > > i.e.,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (i) who is unemployed at present and who is

> > employed

> > > at

> > > > > > > present.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (ii) Also second question is where are they

now?

> > > i.e.,

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > > > > working abroad and who is working in home

country

> > at

> > > > > > > present? or

> > > > > > > > > > > rather say are they both at home country now or

> > both

> > > > > abroad?

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > be any of the possible combinations.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Also when do you think they will be most

> > > successful

> > > > > > > > > > > financially and who's most likely to more

> > successful

> > > > > > > > financially? I

> > > > > > > > > > > will convey this answer to the relevant

persons.

> > > Since

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > both

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > asking this question(this is an optional

request

> > > only)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Person 1:

> > > > > > > > > > > 20th July 1961

> > > > > > > > > > > 9:50 PM IST (India 5:30 hours ahead of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > > > Longitude: 80 E 55

> > > > > > > > > > > Latitude: 26 N 51

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Person 2:

> > > > > > > > > > > 21st July 1961

> > > > > > > > > > > 9:57 PM IST ((India 5:30 hours ahead of GMT))

> > > > > > > > > > > Longitude:77 E 42

> > > > > > > > > > > Latitude: 29 N 16

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please also give your astrological reasonings

and

> > my

> > > > > > > > > > > real purpose is to learn something here and

convey

> > > the

> > > > > > > remedies

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > get job/improve financial condition to the

relevant

> > > > > persons.

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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