Do You Find Black magic / evil spirits in this chart/ Shripal ji

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~Dear Shripal ji~

 

Though i kept reading and hearing about the black magic thing,but i am

a firm believer that goodness wins over the bad deeds,only one needs

to be very honest and fully surrendering to God,may be there is a

short or long suffering according to one's Karma,but ultimately the

ways and means, or the (divine)help comes out automatically,this is my

life's experience.

 

~May God bless u from any such unseen miseries~

 

~Regards~

 

Priyaa SP.

lalkitab , " shripaldalal " <shripaldalal> wrote:

> Dear Priyaa ji,

>

> This is black magic. no doubt about it. EXACTLY the same had

> happened with my mausi. someone didnt want her to have children. one

> day one aghori came directly to my mausa's office and told him that

> your wife dosent have kids because someone is doing something. ask

> her to bath with this vibhuti for 43 days and she will conceive. she

> did that and she CONCEIVED.

>

> BLACK MAGIC uses the same principles that lal kitab uses. if someone

> does black magic havan on you then he has to keep it on for 45/48

> days. it's very much like normal puja only thing it's done to harm

> others.

>

> regards,

> shripal dalal.

>

> lalkitab , " priyaa_s_p " <priyaa_s_p>

> wrote:

> > ~Respected friends~

> >

> > After going thru these posts i was in two minds whether is

> there

> > such a thing, previously i used to think its a psycological

> disorder

> > with someone's suppressed feelings, plz pardon for my saying so.

> > But i would like to narrate an incident , i dont know what catagory

> > should i put it in.Its for the learned friends to decide.BUT it

> > totally changed my perspective of thought.

> >

> > After marriage , i kept on having numerous miscarriages, inspite of

> > all medical reports being right and my health kept detoriating.Then

> > one of my lecturer friend took me to a place,where with blessings

> of a

> > PEER baba's mazaar his devotee treated ppl too.As he saw me he

> said u

> > are under influence of magic.Some body has done so n so @ ur

> place.

> > and has invested interest in not having ur children.I was shocked

> to

> > listen to that. He requested us to change the place, we did, he

> came

> > to our place all way from the other city(without asking for any

> money)

> > i dont know what he did with a knife, drew some lines along with

> the

> > bed , the room.then he gave me a bottle of water, read some

> thing.That

> > bottle had to be with me all the time,even in the toilet.It was

> almost

> > tied to my body.

> >

> > It was his instruction that this thing would happen again , but

> would

> > not be successful. and God yes,I was hospitalised for a week with

> > suspected problem with a very grave intensity . And in the 8 yr of

> my

> > marriage i was blessed by a child

> >

> > MAY GOD BLESS HIM, for today i am mother of 2 kids.

> >

> > Now , what was that? black magic?I am still intrigued.

> >

> >

> > ~Regards~

> >

> > Priyaa SP

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " shripaldalal " <shripaldalal>

> > wrote:

> > > Respected Iqbalji,

> > >

> > > Kind sir, you are correct. but that is different from black

> magic.

> > > when the word spirit comes in, it is called " wadgad " or

> possession.

> > > i have seen one such case by my own eyes. but yes you are

> correct,

> > > black magic can be used to get someone's body possessed.

> > >

> > > i just wish i would knew how to fight such things.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > shripal dalal.

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Iqbal <punjabilovebug>

> wrote:

> > > > Respected Shiripal Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Please forgive me, but I must retort what you have written.

> Black

> > > magic can lead to all of those conditions and more. It can lead

> one

> > > to be excessive (greedy) in a variety of activities depending on

> > the

> > > nature of the spirits involved and the methodology with which

> they

> > > have been secured. It also changes the intellectual, emotional

> and

> > > physical abilities and traits of a person so all of the below

> > > mentioned conditions are only a fragment of what can be altered.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Iqbal

> > > > Toronto, Canada

> > > >

> > > > shripaldalal <shripaldalal> wrote:

> > > > Dear Mr Dube,

> > > >

> > > > these are not problems or symptoms of black magic that's for

> > sure.

> > > i

> > > > do not mean to be offensive, but these r symptoms of an evil

> > > person.

> > > > black magic does not, IT NEVER gives jealousy. also, black

> magic

> > > > symptoms are depression, failure, moving about in circles in

> > life,

> > > > sickness without any reason, madness, insanity etc. this is

> > > > certainly not black magic. i havent seen his chart but it's

> > common

> > > > sense.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > shripal dalal.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , Priyank Dube

> <priyankdube>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Mr shripal

> > > > >

> > > > > He's person with increase of jealousy, frustration, greed,

> > > > selfishness, negativity and inability to accept other's

> happiness

> > > &

> > > > growth, sometime he suddenly starts abnormal behaviour in the

> > > sense

> > > > by creating unnecessary tension, creating family problems

> which

> > > > reaches to extreme, that nobody is able to control him. There

> are

> > > > quarrels in the family without any reason. please suggest what

> do

> > > we

> > > > can do.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Priyank

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > shripaldalal <shripaldalal> wrote:

> > > > > Dear mr dube,

> > > > >

> > > > > what exactly are the problems he is facing ? symptoms ?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > shripal.

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , Priyank Dube

> > <priyankdube>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > I am posting details of a person please analyze his

> details

> > > and

> > > > > tell do u think that this person is affected by Black Magic.

> > > > Please

> > > > > suggest some remedies also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Details are :

> > > > > > DOB:7/01/1969

> > > > > > POB: RAJGARH(MP)

> > > > > > TOB: 33:32:0/GPV

> > > > > > Rashi: Leo

> > > > > > Lagna:Leo

> > > > > > Nakshtra: Magha

> > > > > > Paksh: Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet position in Horoscope:

> > > > > > 5-Moon

> > > > > > 6- Jup, Ketu

> > > > > > 7-Mars

> > > > > > 8-

> > > > > > 9-Sun

> > > > > > 10- Mercury

> > > > > > 11-venus

> > > > > > 12- Sat, Rahu

> > > > > > 1-

> > > > > > 2-

> > > > > > 3-

> > > > > > 4-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Priyank

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > shripaldalal <shripaldalal> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear nishant saab,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my experience budh does not give black magic when in 6th

> > or

> > > > > 12th,

> > > > > > but it gives it when in 10th. 10th house budh if bad can

> > > really

> > > > > put

> > > > > > a person in trouble. personal experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > budh when in 8th house, such a person instead of receiving

> > > black

> > > > > > magic ends up doing these things on others. the person who

> > was

> > > > > > responsible for making my life very problematic had budh

> in

> > > 8th

> > > > > > house. lal kitab in some book i read stated that budh in

> 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > > wala jatak " gupt vidya janne wala hota hai " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > budh means a vidya, a skill, an art. black magic itself is

> an

> > > > art.

> > > > > > in hindi they call it meli vidya (dirty vidya). people

> > > > > underestimate

> > > > > > it saying that it's just in the mind, but when they really

> > > have

> > > > to

> > > > > > go through it, they know the real implications.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > budh really gives black magic when conjoined with an

> ashubh

> > > > > mangal,

> > > > > > not shani or rahu. an ashubh mangal + budh is banavati

> shani

> > > > (rahu

> > > > > > svabhav) which itself is black magic. they say you can

> bury a

> > > > > flute

> > > > > > with sugar in it for that, but i dont know if anyone here

> has

> > > > > tried

> > > > > > that remedy (shani in seventh house). if it works then

> great.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir, i dont know how exactly budh plays mischief, but i

> know

> > > it

> > > > > > does. i have no knowledge of this art, but i have

> tremendous

> > > > > > experience because i have been victim to it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Shripal Dalal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. "

> > > > > <nishant_aryan>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > hello dalal ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree with you fully that its a science,I also

> > > agree

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > you that budh plays a role as he is the karaka for magic

> > and

> > > > > > miracles

> > > > > > > and when he conjuncts with or aspected by Rahu or Shani

> > then

> > > > > makes

> > > > > > > the native a potential victim of BM.but budh has to be

> > > > afflicted

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > lot by his situation in 6,8 or 12 th houses in water

> signs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > he mostly gives depression, failure, moving about in

> > > circles

> > > > in

> > > > > > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity,

> all

> > > > these

> > > > > > > things are very much symptoms of black magic as

> correctly

> > > > > written

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will be grateful if you explain the role of budh a

> > little

> > > > > more

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > I'm with you on discussing this topic which has

> interested

> > > me

> > > > > > since I

> > > > > > > was a kid.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NISHANT

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab , " shripaldalal "

> > > > > > <shripaldalal>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear friends,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Black magic HAS to be removed if it has been done on

> you.

> > > > > There

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > proper babas, tantrics to do this, but 90% are fake.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > jai saab, shani rahu ketu may be culprits, but never

> > > > > > underestimate

> > > > > > > > budh. it's the biggest karaka of black magic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as for indications, depression, failure, moving about

> in

> > > > > circles

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity,

> all

> > > > > these

> > > > > > > > things are very much symptoms of black magic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have also seen that people in this group have taken

> the

> > > > > > subject

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > black magic so lightly that they have ignored my

> previous

> > > > > pleas

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > address this great problem. people here dont realise

> that

> > > > > people

> > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > ask for help over here may be afflicted by planets,

> but

> > > > could

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > also been afflicted by black magic. this group has

> taken

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > subject very lightly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I know this is not documented in lal kitab, but black

> > > magic

> > > > is

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > much a science, which DOES HAVE very close ties to

> > > > astrology,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > has put 40% of innocent people out there in a lot of

> > > trouble.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My friends, i really think that all of us should taken

> an

> > > > > > interest

> > > > > > > > on how to beat these dirty vidyas (black magic) using

> the

> > > > > > science

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > lal kitab which will very much help a lot of people

> out

> > > > there.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Shripal Dalal.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata

> > > <jaynahata@g...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > Rahu, Saturn & Ketu are the main culprits for this.

> > > > > > > > > And Sun should be strengthened and culprites have to

> be

> > > > > > weakened

> > > > > > > > once it is

> > > > > > > > > proved that they are doing this mischief.

> > > > > > > > > Awaiting valuable insights from all the scholars,

> > > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > > Jai

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 6/15/05, Priyank <priyankdube> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I fully agree that Black Magic happens, but this

> is

> > > the

> > > > > > first

> > > > > > > > time i

> > > > > > > > > > have come to know that planets also plays and

> > > important

> > > > > role

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > Thank to all Gurujans.

> > > > > > > > > > I've also witnessed its victims

> > > > > > > > > > how can one protect self and family by all these

> > > things,

> > > > > > > > > > this should not done , but if someone has done it

> on

> > > > you ,

> > > > > > > > atleast

> > > > > > > > > > u should know about this and also know how u can

> > > protect

> > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > all these.

> > > > > > > > > > can anybody tell who are masters of this all and

> > where

> > > > one

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Priyank

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. "

> > > > > > > > <nishant_aryan>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Khaan Sahab,

> > > > > > > > > > > you made a good point and I fully agree with

> Dalal

> > > ji

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > Black

> > > > > > > > > > > Magic happens.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I've witnessed its victims and also met people

> who

> > > are

> > > > > > > masters

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > this all.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But yes there are combinations of planets given

> in

> > > > Vedic

> > > > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > (I'm not sure about LK)which imply a person

> liable

> > > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > victim

> > > > > > > > > > > in due course of his/her life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Shani are biggest culprits of this all,

> > > plus

> > > > in

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > lesser

> > > > > > > > > > > way Mangal is also a great player effecting

> Black

> > > > Magic.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > LK only makes Mangal Badh as Karaka for all

> these

> > > > things.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > NISHANT

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " shripaldalal "

> > > > > > > > <shripaldalal>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen and experienced with my own two

> eyes

> > > > that

> > > > > > black

> > > > > > > > magic

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > as real as the sun or the moon, and it truly

> is

> > > > > > powerful.

> > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > > > know that this group discounts black magic, but

> > do

> > > > > take

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > seriously, it truly can put someone in trouble.

> > If

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > > times are

> > > > > > > > > > > > bad (planets are bad) noone is going to bother

> > > > > troubling

> > > > > > > > you. But

> > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > > your planets and time are good.... out of

> > jealousy

> > > > > > people

> > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > use

> > > > > > > > > > > > such things to make sure you dont enjoy your

> good

> > > > > times,

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > > > your good times bad.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal Dalal.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <bhooshanpriya> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Susan,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is just a hypothesis , I haven't got

> enough

> > > > > > empirical

> > > > > > > > > > > evidence

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yet , that Mercury and Rahu relationship

> > > indicates

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > influence

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > evil spirits.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury and Rahu together in 3,8,9 & 12th

> house

> > > or

> > > > > > > > > > separately ,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury in any of the 3 , 8 , 9 & 12th

> houses

> > > > while

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > Rahu in

> > > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 5 , 7 , 8 & 11th houses could cause a

> > > > malady

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > traced to any apparent reason.Normally such

> > > things

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > > > > > credited

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to the evil spirits.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Priya

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , SUSAN RANA

> > > > > > > > <susan.tyson@b...>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that all is astrological, to

> have

> > > > black

> > > > > > magic

> > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > for this to be effective i feel you would

> need

> > > to

> > > > > have

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > combination of planets that would allow this

> to

> > > > > happen.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > su

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all respected members i have a question

> > > that

> > > > > how

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > layman

> > > > > > > > > > > > > determine

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that difficulties one is facing is due to

> bad

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one has done black magic on it because it

> is

> > > > fact

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > black

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > magic , i hope that all memebers

> participate

> > > and

> > > > > > share

> > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > khowledge

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rizkhan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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