General Questions on Lal Kitab Techniques

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Respected Members(Jai ji, Priyaji and others),

I just have few mind boggling questions ..Please help to understand

Lal Kitab rules.

 

(i) Most dangerous(healthwise and financial) times can come during

an year in whose Varshphal/varsha-chart, there are malefic/evil

palnets in 6th and 8th houses. The evil power can increase several

times if there is a planet in 2nd house also, since then the

link/aspect from 8th house to 2nd house and 2nd house to 6th house

is complete, thus increasing evil effects several times. Is it right?

 

(ii) If there are benefic planets in Kendras and/or trikonas then

the native will have smooth sailing in his/her financial and general

developments? Planets in 3rd house can aspect planets in 9th and

11th house with 50% Drishti and increase benefic/malefic effects as

per their nature?

 

(iii) What happens(financially, careerwise) if benefic and malefic

planet in 4th house apsects a benefic planet in 10th house?

 

(iv) Repeat (iii) above with a malefic planet in 10 house?

 

Thanks and Regards

Rajesh Kumaria

 

P.S. Sorry by mistake it was posted to another lal kitab group. My

apologies if you are receving it twice.

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajesh ji,

Replies to your queries are along with the queries themselves.

On 6/25/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:

Respected Members(Jai ji, Priyaji and others),I just have few mind boggling questions ..Please help to understand

Lal Kitab rules.(i) Most dangerous(healthwise and financial) times can come duringan year in whose Varshphal/varsha-chart, there are malefic/evilpalnets in 6th and 8th houses. The evil power can increase several

times if there is a planet in 2nd house also, since then thelink/aspect from 8th house to 2nd house and 2nd house to 6th houseis complete, thus increasing evil effects several times. Is it right?

Rajesh ji, any planet can be dangerous in varshphal or natal if it is manda(due to various reasons). Especially if it is aspected by its enemies or in takraav with some planet. Regarding connection betwwen 2,6 & 8 you are right. But planet in 2nd & 6th will be most affected. Planets in 6th & 8th will jointly but secretly will harm the native.

 

 

(ii) If there are benefic planets in Kendras and/or trikonas thenthe native will have smooth sailing in his/her financial and general

developments? Planets in 3rd house can aspect planets in 9th and11th house with 50% Drishti and increase benefic/malefic effects asper their nature?

Same as first.

 

(iii) What happens(financially, careerwise) if benefic and maleficplanet in 4th house apsects a benefic planet in 10th house?

 

It will depend upon the relation between two and some special cases. For instance if Venus is in 4th and Jupiter in 10th then even though Jupiter takes Venus as enemy but Venus shall prove benficial. And so on...

 

 

(iv) Repeat (iii) above with a malefic planet in 10 house?Same principle as above.

Thanks and RegardsRajesh Kumaria

 

Best regards

 

Jai

 

P.S. Sorry by mistake it was posted to another lal kitab group. Myapologies if you are receving it twice.

 

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Dear Jai ji

(i) Thanks for your answers. Now new queries have come to mind:

if there are malefic planets or benefic planets in 6th and 8th house

and also planets in 2nd house, then obviously evil effects will

happen. But if simultaneously there are benefic planets in 3rd, 9th

and 11th houses, can these control the effects of those 6th and 8th

house planets?? Who will be victorious under these conditions??

 

(ii) Can benefic planets in kendras and trikonas control the effects

of the 6th and 8th house evil planets?

 

(iii)What about 12th house beneifc planets? Do they help a native

earn money or loose it?Can such benefic planets in 12th house be

able to control the effects of the 6th and 8th house evil/malefic

planets?

 

(iv) Can benefic planets in 6th and 8th house cause less damage

financially then malefic planets in same houses or it does not

matter at all, since 6th and 8th houses themselves are evil?

 

(v) Please reply..the reason being that i am trying to study various

charts and reach some conclusions. I was surprized to see that

natives flourished financially even when they had malefic and

benefic planets in 6th and 8th house and even planets in 2nd house,

but they had several benefic and few malefic planets in kendras and

trikonas during those varshphal charts. I just want to know what's

the ultimate criteria here. Also what's the relationship between

birth chart and varshphal chart in lal kitab system..which chart

dominates??

 

Thanks and Regards

Rajesh.

 

lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> Dear Rajesh ji,

> Replies to your queries are along with the queries themselves.

>

> On 6/25/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Members(Jai ji, Priyaji and others),

> > I just have few mind boggling questions ..Please help to

understand

> > Lal Kitab rules.

> >

> > (i) Most dangerous(healthwise and financial) times can come

during

> > an year in whose Varshphal/varsha-chart, there are malefic/evil

> > palnets in 6th and 8th houses. The evil power can increase

several

> > times if there is a planet in 2nd house also, since then the

> > link/aspect from 8th house to 2nd house and 2nd house to 6th

house

> > is complete, thus increasing evil effects several times. Is it

right?

>

> Rajesh ji, any planet can be dangerous in varshphal or natal if

it is *

> manda*(due to various reasons). Especially if it is aspected by

its enemies

> or in *takraav *with some planet. Regarding connection betwwen 2,6

& 8 you

> are right. But planet in 2nd & 6th will be most affected. Planets

in 6th &

> 8th will jointly but secretly will harm the native.

>

> (ii) If there are benefic planets in Kendras and/or trikonas then

> > the native will have smooth sailing in his/her financial and

general

> > developments? Planets in 3rd house can aspect planets in 9th and

> > 11th house with 50% Drishti and increase benefic/malefic effects

as

> > per their nature?

>

> Same as first.

>

> (iii) What happens(financially, careerwise) if benefic and malefic

> > planet in 4th house apsects a benefic planet in 10th house?

>

> It will depend upon the relation between two and some special

cases. For

> instance if Venus is in 4th and Jupiter in 10th then even though

Jupiter

> takes Venus as enemy but Venus shall prove benficial. And so on...

>

> (iv) Repeat (iii) above with a malefic planet in 10 house?

> > Same principle as above.

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Rajesh Kumaria

>

> Best regards

> Jai

>

> P.S. Sorry by mistake it was posted to another lal kitab group. My

> > apologies if you are receving it twice.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rajesh ji,

First advice from me for your learning process - don't label planets and houses as benefics or malefics. Depending upon the various configurations they give results and every house and planet is needed. For instance, lets take bad houses - 6,8 & 12. We know that these houses denotes certain bad things but they also have few good things attached with them. Without participation of 6th house you can never get loans or service(naukri). It is said to be house of disease but actually it denotes our immune system and can we live without it. I can't. Moreover it is also upachaya house. Regarding 8th it is the house without which you may never get certain windfalls, unexpected gains,etc. Moreover it is 11th to 10th and vice-versa. I have seen it to be favourable for job prospects. Form 4th it is 5th. So can we still call it bad ? No it will depend on the strength and influences on its lord and dispositor and its various relations.

 

Lets take planets. Saturn and Mars are first rate malefics. But for Taurus Asc. Saturn becomes the best planet and for Cancer Asc. Mars becomes best planet. No doubt they will also show their inherent nature but now in a positive manner. Now how do you reconcile this phenomana.

 

This is the core of one part of this divine science. Any further query are welcome.

 

Best regards

 

Jai

 

 

On 6/29/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:

Dear Jai ji(i) Thanks for your answers. Now new queries have come to mind:if there are malefic planets or benefic planets in 6th and 8th house

and also planets in 2nd house, then obviously evil effects willhappen. But if simultaneously there are benefic planets in 3rd, 9thand 11th houses, can these control the effects of those 6th and 8thhouse planets?? Who will be victorious under these conditions??

(ii) Can benefic planets in kendras and trikonas control the effectsof the 6th and 8th house evil planets?(iii)What about 12th house beneifc planets? Do they help a nativeearn money or loose it?Can such benefic planets in 12th house be

able to control the effects of the 6th and 8th house evil/maleficplanets?(iv) Can benefic planets in 6th and 8th house cause less damagefinancially then malefic planets in same houses or it does not

matter at all, since 6th and 8th houses themselves are evil?(v) Please reply..the reason being that i am trying to study variouscharts and reach some conclusions. I was surprized to see thatnatives flourished financially even when they had malefic and

benefic planets in 6th and 8th house and even planets in 2nd house,but they had several benefic and few malefic planets in kendras andtrikonas during those varshphal charts. I just want to know what'sthe ultimate criteria here. Also what's the relationship between

birth chart and varshphal chart in lal kitab system..which chartdominates??Thanks and RegardsRajesh.lalkitab , Jai Nahata <

jaynahata@g...> wrote:> Dear Rajesh ji,> Replies to your queries are along with the queries themselves.>> On 6/25/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> >

> > Respected Members(Jai ji, Priyaji and others),> > I just have few mind boggling questions ..Please help tounderstand> > Lal Kitab rules.> >> > (i) Most dangerous(healthwise and financial) times can come

during> > an year in whose Varshphal/varsha-chart, there are malefic/evil> > palnets in 6th and 8th houses. The evil power can increaseseveral> > times if there is a planet in 2nd house also, since then the

> > link/aspect from 8th house to 2nd house and 2nd house to 6thhouse> > is complete, thus increasing evil effects several times. Is itright?>> Rajesh ji, any planet can be dangerous in varshphal or natal if

it is *> manda*(due to various reasons). Especially if it is aspected byits enemies> or in *takraav *with some planet. Regarding connection betwwen 2,6 & 8 you> are right. But planet in 2nd & 6th will be most affected. Planets

in 6th & > 8th will jointly but secretly will harm the native.>> (ii) If there are benefic planets in Kendras and/or trikonas then> > the native will have smooth sailing in his/her financial and

general> > developments? Planets in 3rd house can aspect planets in 9th and> > 11th house with 50% Drishti and increase benefic/malefic effectsas> > per their nature?>> Same as first.

>> (iii) What happens(financially, careerwise) if benefic and malefic> > planet in 4th house apsects a benefic planet in 10th house?>> It will depend upon the relation between two and some special

cases. For> instance if Venus is in 4th and Jupiter in 10th then even thoughJupiter> takes Venus as enemy but Venus shall prove benficial. And so on...>> (iv) Repeat (iii) above with a malefic planet in 10 house?

> > Same principle as above.> > Thanks and Regards> > Rajesh Kumaria>> Best regards> Jai>> P.S. Sorry by mistake it was posted to another lal kitab group. My

> > apologies if you are receving it twice.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Dear Rajesh ji,

 

Due to time limitation with me I had to keep it concise but I tried to be as comprehensive and simple as possible. Since you have raised some very important questions soon I will be posting a complete article on this topic. Hope my reply to be of some help to you.

 

Best regards

 

Jai

 

 

On 7/1/05, Jai Nahata <jaynahata wrote:

 

Dear Rajesh ji,

First advice from me for your learning process - don't label planets and houses as benefics or malefics. Depending upon the various configurations they give results and every house and planet is needed. For instance, lets take bad houses - 6,8 & 12. We know that these houses denotes certain bad things but they also have few good things attached with them. Without participation of 6th house you can never get loans or service(naukri). It is said to be house of disease but actually it denotes our immune system and can we live without it. I can't. Moreover it is also upachaya house. Regarding 8th it is the house without which you may never get certain windfalls, unexpected gains,etc. Moreover it is 11th to 10th and vice-versa. I have seen it to be favourable for job prospects. Form 4th it is 5th. So can we still call it bad ? No it will depend on the strength and influences on its lord and dispositor and its various relations.

Lets take planets. Saturn and Mars are first rate malefics. But for Taurus Asc. Saturn becomes the best planet and for Cancer Asc. Mars becomes best planet. No doubt they will also show their inherent nature but now in a positive manner. Now how do you reconcile this phenomana.

This is the core of one part of this divine science. Any further query are welcome.

 

Best regards

 

Jai

 

 

 

On 6/29/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000

> wrote: Dear Jai ji(i) Thanks for your answers. Now new queries have come to mind:if there are malefic planets or benefic planets in 6th and 8th house and also planets in 2nd house, then obviously evil effects willhappen. But if simultaneously there are benefic planets in 3rd, 9thand 11th houses, can these control the effects of those 6th and 8thhouse planets?? Who will be victorious under these conditions?? (ii) Can benefic planets in kendras and trikonas control the effectsof the 6th and 8th house evil planets?(iii)What about 12th house beneifc planets? Do they help a nativeearn money or loose it?Can such benefic planets in 12th house be able to control the effects of the 6th and 8th house evil/maleficplanets?(iv) Can benefic planets in 6th and 8th house cause less damagefinancially then malefic planets in same houses or it does not

matter at all, since 6th and 8th houses themselves are evil?(v) Please reply..the reason being that i am trying to study variouscharts and reach some conclusions. I was surprized to see thatnatives flourished financially even when they had malefic and benefic planets in 6th and 8th house and even planets in 2nd house,but they had several benefic and few malefic planets in kendras andtrikonas during those varshphal charts. I just want to know what'sthe ultimate criteria here. Also what's the relationship between birth chart and varshphal chart in lal kitab system..which chartdominates??Thanks and RegardsRajesh.

lalkitab , Jai Nahata < jaynahata@g...> wrote:> Dear Rajesh ji,> Replies to your queries are along with the queries themselves.>> On 6/25/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000@y

....> wrote:> >> > Respected Members(Jai ji, Priyaji and others),> > I just have few mind boggling questions ..Please help tounderstand> > Lal Kitab rules.> >> > (i) Most dangerous(healthwise and financial) times can come during> > an year in whose Varshphal/varsha-chart, there are malefic/evil> > palnets in 6th and 8th houses. The evil power can increaseseveral> > times if there is a planet in 2nd house also, since then the > > link/aspect from 8th house to 2nd house and 2nd house to 6thhouse> > is complete, thus increasing evil effects several times. Is itright?>> Rajesh ji, any planet can be dangerous in varshphal or natal if it is *> manda*(due to various reasons). Especially if it is aspected byits enemies> or in *takraav *with some planet. Regarding connection betwwen 2,6 & 8 you> are right. But planet in 2nd & 6th will be most affected. Planets in 6th & > 8th will jointly but secretly will harm the native.>> (ii) If there are benefic planets in Kendras and/or trikonas then> > the native will have smooth sailing in his/her financial and general> > developments? Planets in 3rd house can aspect planets in 9th and> > 11th house with 50% Drishti and increase benefic/malefic effectsas> > per their nature?>> Same as first. >> (iii) What happens(financially, careerwise) if benefic and malefic> > planet in 4th house apsects a benefic planet in 10th house?>> It will depend upon the relation between two and some special cases. For> instance if Venus is in 4th and Jupiter in 10th then even thoughJupiter> takes Venus as enemy but Venus shall prove benficial. And so on...>> (iv) Repeat (iii) above with a malefic planet in 10 house? > > Same principle as above.> > Thanks and Regards> > Rajesh Kumaria>> Best regards> Jai>> P.S. Sorry by mistake it was posted to another lal kitab group. My > > apologies if you are receving it twice.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Jai ji

Well I appreciate your replies and I agree with everything you said

about 6th and 8th houses. I will wait for your article...actually I

am only trying to understand what are the critical factors in

analysing charts using LAL KITAB techniques and who will dominate

under complex conditions(hence i tried to list several cases for my

own clairifications). ALso your replies are very helpful.

Thanks and Regards

Rajesh Kumaria.

 

 

lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> Dear Rajesh ji,

> Due to time limitation with me I had to keep it concise but I

tried to be

> as comprehensive and simple as possible. Since you have raised

some very

> important questions soon I will be posting a complete article on

this topic.

> Hope my reply to be of some help to you.

> Best regards

> Jai

>

> On 7/1/05, Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > First advice from me for your learning process - don't label

planets and

> > houses as benefics or malefics. Depending upon the various

configurations

> > they give results and every house and planet is needed. For

instance, lets

> > take bad houses - 6,8 & 12. We know that these houses denotes

certain bad

> > things but they also have few good things attached with them.

Without

> > participation of 6th house you can never get loans or service

(naukri). It is

> > said to be house of disease but actually it denotes our immune

system and

> > can we live without it. I can't. Moreover it is also upachaya

house.

> > Regarding 8th it is the house without which you may never get

certain

> > windfalls, unexpected gains,etc. Moreover it is 11th to 10th and

vice-versa.

> > I have seen it to be favourable for job prospects. Form 4th it

is 5th. So

> > can we still call it bad ? No it will depend on the strength and

influences

> > on its lord and dispositor and its various relations.

> > Lets take planets. Saturn and Mars are first rate malefics. But

for Taurus

> > Asc. Saturn becomes the best planet and for Cancer Asc. Mars

becomes best

> > planet. No doubt they will also show their inherent nature but

now in a

> > positive manner. Now how do you reconcile this phenomana.

> > This is the core of one part of this divine science. Any further

query are

> > welcome.

> > Best regards

> > Jai

> >

> >

> > On 6/29/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jai ji

> > > (i) Thanks for your answers. Now new queries have come to mind:

> > > if there are malefic planets or benefic planets in 6th and 8th

house

> > > and also planets in 2nd house, then obviously evil effects will

> > > happen. But if simultaneously there are benefic planets in

3rd, 9th

> > > and 11th houses, can these control the effects of those 6th

and 8th

> > > house planets?? Who will be victorious under these

conditions??

> > >

> > > (ii) Can benefic planets in kendras and trikonas control the

effects

> > > of the 6th and 8th house evil planets?

> > >

> > > (iii)What about 12th house beneifc planets? Do they help a

native

> > > earn money or loose it?Can such benefic planets in 12th house

be

> > > able to control the effects of the 6th and 8th house

evil/malefic

> > > planets?

> > >

> > > (iv) Can benefic planets in 6th and 8th house cause less damage

> > > financially then malefic planets in same houses or it does not

> > > matter at all, since 6th and 8th houses themselves are evil?

> > >

> > > (v) Please reply..the reason being that i am trying to study

various

> > > charts and reach some conclusions. I was surprized to see that

> > > natives flourished financially even when they had malefic and

> > > benefic planets in 6th and 8th house and even planets in 2nd

house,

> > > but they had several benefic and few malefic planets in

kendras and

> > > trikonas during those varshphal charts. I just want to know

what's

> > > the ultimate criteria here. Also what's the relationship

between

> > > birth chart and varshphal chart in lal kitab system..which

chart

> > > dominates??

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Rajesh.

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata < jaynahata@g...>

wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > > Replies to your queries are along with the queries

themselves.

> > > >

> > > > On 6/25/05, Rajesh M. Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Members(Jai ji, Priyaji and others),

> > > > > I just have few mind boggling questions ..Please help to

> > > understand

> > > > > Lal Kitab rules.

> > > > >

> > > > > (i) Most dangerous(healthwise and financial) times can

come

> > > during

> > > > > an year in whose Varshphal/varsha-chart, there are

malefic/evil

> > > > > palnets in 6th and 8th houses. The evil power can increase

> > > several

> > > > > times if there is a planet in 2nd house also, since then

the

> > > > > link/aspect from 8th house to 2nd house and 2nd house to

6th

> > > house

> > > > > is complete, thus increasing evil effects several times.

Is it

> > > right?

> > > >

> > > > Rajesh ji, any planet can be dangerous in varshphal or natal

if

> > > it is *

> > > > manda*(due to various reasons). Especially if it is aspected

by

> > > its enemies

> > > > or in *takraav *with some planet. Regarding connection

betwwen 2,6

> > > & 8 you

> > > > are right. But planet in 2nd & 6th will be most affected.

Planets

> > > in 6th &

> > > > 8th will jointly but secretly will harm the native.

> > > >

> > > > (ii) If there are benefic planets in Kendras and/or trikonas

then

> > > > > the native will have smooth sailing in his/her financial

and

> > > general

> > > > > developments? Planets in 3rd house can aspect planets in

9th and

> > > > > 11th house with 50% Drishti and increase benefic/malefic

effects

> > > as

> > > > > per their nature?

> > > >

> > > > Same as first.

> > > >

> > > > (iii) What happens(financially, careerwise) if benefic and

malefic

> > > > > planet in 4th house apsects a benefic planet in 10th house?

> > > >

> > > > It will depend upon the relation between two and some

special

> > > cases. For

> > > > instance if Venus is in 4th and Jupiter in 10th then even

though

> > > Jupiter

> > > > takes Venus as enemy but Venus shall prove benficial. And so

on...

> > > >

> > > > (iv) Repeat (iii) above with a malefic planet in 10 house?

> > > > > Same principle as above.

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > > Jai

> > > >

> > > > P.S. Sorry by mistake it was posted to another lal kitab

group. My

> > > > > apologies if you are receving it twice.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >