Do You Find Black magic / evil spirits in this chart

June 21, 2005

Dear Friends,

I am posting details of a person please analyze his details and tell do u think that this person is affected by Black Magic. Please suggest some remedies also

Details are :

DOB:7/01/1969

POB: RAJGARH(MP)

TOB: 33:32:0/GPV

Rashi: Leo

Lagna:Leo

Nakshtra: Magha

Paksh: Krishna

Planet position in Horoscope:

5-Moon

6- Jup, Ketu

7-Mars

8-

9-Sun

10- Mercury

11-venus

12- Sat, Rahu

1-

2-

3-

4-

Regards

Priyank

shripaldalal <shripaldalal wrote:

Dear nishant saab,In my experience budh does not give black magic when in 6th or 12th, but it gives it when in 10th. 10th house budh if bad can really put a person in trouble. personal experience.budh when in 8th house, such a person instead of receiving black magic ends up doing these things on others. the person who was responsible for making my life very problematic had budh in 8th house. lal kitab in some book i read stated that budh in 8th house wala jatak "gupt vidya janne wala hota hai".budh means a vidya, a skill, an art. black magic itself is an art. in hindi they call it meli vidya (dirty vidya). people underestimate it saying that it's just in the mind, but when they really have to go through it, they know the real implications.budh really gives black magic when conjoined with an ashubh mangal, not

shani or rahu. an ashubh mangal + budh is banavati shani (rahu svabhav) which itself is black magic. they say you can bury a flute with sugar in it for that, but i dont know if anyone here has tried that remedy (shani in seventh house). if it works then great.sir, i dont know how exactly budh plays mischief, but i know it does. i have no knowledge of this art, but i have tremendous experience because i have been victim to it.Regards,Shripal Dalal.lalkitab , "Nishant A.S." <nishant_aryan> wrote:> > > > > hello dalal ji,> > I agree with you fully that its a science,I also agree with > you that budh plays a role as he is the karaka for magic and miracles > and when he conjuncts with or aspected by Rahu or Shani then makes > the native a potential victim of BM.but budh has to be

afflicted a > lot by his situation in 6,8 or 12 th houses in water signs.> > he mostly gives depression, failure, moving about in circles in > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity, all these > things are very much symptoms of black magic as correctly written by > you.> > I will be grateful if you explain the role of budh a little more and > I'm with you on discussing this topic which has interested me since I > was a kid.> > > NISHANT> > > > > lalkitab , "shripaldalal" <shripaldalal> > wrote:> > Dear friends,> > > > Black magic HAS to be removed if it has been done on you. There are > > proper babas, tantrics to do this, but 90% are fake.> > > > jai

saab, shani rahu ketu may be culprits, but never underestimate > > budh. it's the biggest karaka of black magic.> > > > as for indications, depression, failure, moving about in circles in > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity, all these > > things are very much symptoms of black magic.> > > > i have also seen that people in this group have taken the subject > of > > black magic so lightly that they have ignored my previous pleas to > > address this great problem. people here dont realise that people > who > > ask for help over here may be afflicted by planets, but could have > > also been afflicted by black magic. this group has taken this > > subject very lightly.> > > > I know this is not documented in lal kitab, but black magic is very > > much a science, which DOES HAVE very

close ties to astrology, and > > has put 40% of innocent people out there in a lot of trouble.> > > > My friends, i really think that all of us should taken an interest > > on how to beat these dirty vidyas (black magic) using the science > of > > lal kitab which will very much help a lot of people out there.> > > > Regards,> > Shripal Dalal.> > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:> > > Dear All,> > > Rahu, Saturn & Ketu are the main culprits for this.> > > And Sun should be strengthened and culprites have to be weakened > > once it is > > > proved that they are doing this mischief.> > > Awaiting valuable insights from all the scholars,> > > Best regards> > > Jai> > >

> > > On 6/15/05, Priyank <priyankdube> wrote: > > > > > > > > I fully agree that Black Magic happens, but this is the first > > time i> > > > have come to know that planets also plays and important role in > > it.> > > > Thank to all Gurujans.> > > > I've also witnessed its victims> > > > how can one protect self and family by all these things,> > > > this should not done , but if someone has done it on you , > > atleast> > > > u should know about this and also know how u can protect urself > > by> > > > all these.> > > > can anybody tell who are masters of this all and where one can > > find> > > > them.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Priyank> > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab , "Nishant A.S." > > <nishant_aryan>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Khaan Sahab,> > > > > you made a good point and I fully agree with Dalal ji that > > Black> > > > > Magic happens.> > > > >> > > > > I've witnessed its victims and also met people who are > masters > > of> > > > > this all.> > > > >> > > > > But yes there are combinations of planets given in Vedic > > astrology> > > > > (I'm not sure about LK)which imply a person liable to be its > > victim> > > > > in due course of his/her life.> > > > >> > > > > Rahu and Shani are biggest

culprits of this all, plus in some> > > > lesser> > > > > way Mangal is also a great player effecting Black Magic.> > > > >> > > > > LK only makes Mangal Badh as Karaka for all these things.> > > > >> > > > > Sincerely> > > > >> > > > > NISHANT> > > > >> > > > > lalkitab , "shripaldalal" > > <shripaldalal>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > I have seen and experienced with my own two eyes that black > > magic> > > > > is> > > > > > as real as the sun or the moon, and it truly is powerful. > > please> > > > i> > > > > > know that this group discounts black magic, but do take it> > > > > >

seriously, it truly can put someone in trouble. If your > > times are> > > > > > bad (planets are bad) noone is going to bother troubling > > you. But> > > > > if> > > > > > your planets and time are good.... out of jealousy people > do > > use> > > > > > such things to make sure you dont enjoy your good times, > they> > > > make> > > > > > your good times bad.> > > > > >> > > > > > Shripal Dalal.> > > > > >> > > > > > lalkitab , "bhooshanpriya"> > > > > > <bhooshanpriya> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Susan,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It is just a hypothesis , I haven't got enough empirical> >

> > > evidence> > > > > > > yet , that Mercury and Rahu relationship indicates the> > > > influence> > > > > > of> > > > > > > evil spirits.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mercury and Rahu together in 3,8,9 & 12th house or> > > > separately ,> > > > > > > mercury in any of the 3 , 8 , 9 & 12th houses while the > > Rahu in> > > > > > any> > > > > > > of the 5 , 7 , 8 & 11th houses could cause a malady which > > can> > > > not> > > > > > be> > > > > > > traced to any apparent reason.Normally such things are > then> > > > > > credited> > > > > > > to the evil spirits.> > > > > >

>> > > > > > > sincerely,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Priya> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > lalkitab , SUSAN RANA > > <susan.tyson@b...>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > I believe that all is astrological, to have black magic > > done> > > > > and> > > > > > > for this to be effective i feel you would need to have the> > > > > > > combination of planets that

would allow this to happen.> > > > > > > > kind regards> > > > > > > > su> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786> wrote:> > > > > > > > To all respected members i have a question that how a > > layman> > > > > > > determine> > > > > > > > that difficulties one is facing is due to bad effect of> > > > planets> > > > > > or> > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > one has done black magic on it because it is fact that > > people> > > > > do> > > > > > > black> > > > > > > > magic , i hope that all memebers participate and share > > their> > > > > >

> khowledge> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rizkhan> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 22, 2005

Dear Mr shripal

He's person with increase of jealousy, frustration, greed, selfishness, negativity and inability to accept other's happiness & growth, sometime he suddenly starts abnormal behaviour in the sense by creating unnecessary tension, creating family problems which reaches to extreme, that nobody is able to control him. There are quarrels in the family without any reason. please suggest what do we can do.

RegardsPriyank

shripaldalal <shripaldalal wrote:

Dear mr dube,what exactly are the problems he is facing ? symptoms ?regards,shripal.lalkitab , Priyank Dube <priyankdube> wrote:> Dear Friends,> I am posting details of a person please analyze his details and tell do u think that this person is affected by Black Magic. Please suggest some remedies also> > Details are :> DOB:7/01/1969> POB: RAJGARH(MP)> TOB: 33:32:0/GPV> Rashi: Leo> Lagna:Leo> Nakshtra: Magha> Paksh: Krishna> > Planet position in Horoscope:> 5-Moon> 6- Jup, Ketu> 7-Mars> 8-> 9-Sun> 10- Mercury> 11-venus> 12- Sat, Rahu> 1-> 2-> 3-> 4-> > Regards> Priyank> >

> > > > > > > shripaldalal <shripaldalal> wrote:> Dear nishant saab,> > In my experience budh does not give black magic when in 6th or 12th, > but it gives it when in 10th. 10th house budh if bad can really put > a person in trouble. personal experience.> > budh when in 8th house, such a person instead of receiving black > magic ends up doing these things on others. the person who was > responsible for making my life very problematic had budh in 8th > house. lal kitab in some book i read stated that budh in 8th house > wala jatak "gupt vidya janne wala hota hai".> > budh means a vidya, a skill, an art. black magic itself is an art. > in hindi they call it meli vidya (dirty vidya). people underestimate > it saying that it's just in the mind, but when they really have to > go

through it, they know the real implications.> > budh really gives black magic when conjoined with an ashubh mangal, > not shani or rahu. an ashubh mangal + budh is banavati shani (rahu > svabhav) which itself is black magic. they say you can bury a flute > with sugar in it for that, but i dont know if anyone here has tried > that remedy (shani in seventh house). if it works then great.> > sir, i dont know how exactly budh plays mischief, but i know it > does. i have no knowledge of this art, but i have tremendous > experience because i have been victim to it.> > Regards,> Shripal Dalal.> > lalkitab , "Nishant A.S." <nishant_aryan> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > hello dalal ji,> > > > I agree with you fully that

its a science,I also agree with > > you that budh plays a role as he is the karaka for magic and > miracles > > and when he conjuncts with or aspected by Rahu or Shani then makes > > the native a potential victim of BM.but budh has to be afflicted a > > lot by his situation in 6,8 or 12 th houses in water signs.> > > > he mostly gives depression, failure, moving about in circles in > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity, all these > > things are very much symptoms of black magic as correctly written > by > > you.> > > > I will be grateful if you explain the role of budh a little more > and > > I'm with you on discussing this topic which has interested me > since I > > was a kid.> > > > > > NISHANT>

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "shripaldalal" > <shripaldalal> > > wrote:> > > Dear friends,> > > > > > Black magic HAS to be removed if it has been done on you. There > are > > > proper babas, tantrics to do this, but 90% are fake.> > > > > > jai saab, shani rahu ketu may be culprits, but never > underestimate > > > budh. it's the biggest karaka of black magic.> > > > > > as for indications, depression, failure, moving about in circles > in > > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity, all these > > > things are very much symptoms of black magic.> > > > > > i have also seen that people in this group have taken the >

subject > > of > > > black magic so lightly that they have ignored my previous pleas > to > > > address this great problem. people here dont realise that people > > who > > > ask for help over here may be afflicted by planets, but could > have > > > also been afflicted by black magic. this group has taken this > > > subject very lightly.> > > > > > I know this is not documented in lal kitab, but black magic is > very > > > much a science, which DOES HAVE very close ties to astrology, > and > > > has put 40% of innocent people out there in a lot of trouble.> > > > > > My friends, i really think that all of us should taken an > interest > > > on how to beat these dirty vidyas (black magic) using the > science > > of > > > lal kitab which

will very much help a lot of people out there.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Shripal Dalal.> > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> > wrote:> > > > Dear All,> > > > Rahu, Saturn & Ketu are the main culprits for this.> > > > And Sun should be strengthened and culprites have to be > weakened > > > once it is > > > > proved that they are doing this mischief.> > > > Awaiting valuable insights from all the scholars,> > > > Best regards> > > > Jai> > > > > > > > On 6/15/05, Priyank <priyankdube> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree that Black Magic happens, but this is the > first > > > time i> >

> > > have come to know that planets also plays and important role > in > > > it.> > > > > Thank to all Gurujans.> > > > > I've also witnessed its victims> > > > > how can one protect self and family by all these things,> > > > > this should not done , but if someone has done it on you , > > > atleast> > > > > u should know about this and also know how u can protect > urself > > > by> > > > > all these.> > > > > can anybody tell who are masters of this all and where one > can > > > find> > > > > them.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Priyank> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "Nishant A.S." > >

> <nishant_aryan>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Khaan Sahab,> > > > > > you made a good point and I fully agree with Dalal ji that > > > Black> > > > > > Magic happens.> > > > > >> > > > > > I've witnessed its victims and also met people who are > > masters > > > of> > > > > > this all.> > > > > >> > > > > > But yes there are combinations of planets given in Vedic > > > astrology> > > > > > (I'm not sure about LK)which imply a person liable to be > its > > > victim> > > > > > in due course of his/her life.> > > > > >> > > > > > Rahu and Shani are biggest

culprits of this all, plus in > some> > > > > lesser> > > > > > way Mangal is also a great player effecting Black Magic.> > > > > >> > > > > > LK only makes Mangal Badh as Karaka for all these things.> > > > > >> > > > > > Sincerely> > > > > >> > > > > > NISHANT> > > > > >> > > > > > lalkitab , "shripaldalal" > > > <shripaldalal>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > I have seen and experienced with my own two eyes that > black > > > magic> > > > > > is> > > > > > > as real as the sun or the moon, and it truly is > powerful. > > > please> > > > > i> > > >

> > > know that this group discounts black magic, but do take > it> > > > > > > seriously, it truly can put someone in trouble. If your > > > times are> > > > > > > bad (planets are bad) noone is going to bother troubling > > > you. But> > > > > > if> > > > > > > your planets and time are good.... out of jealousy > people > > do > > > use> > > > > > > such things to make sure you dont enjoy your good times, > > they> > > > > make> > > > > > > your good times bad.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Shripal Dalal.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > lalkitab , "bhooshanpriya"> > > > > > >

<bhooshanpriya> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Susan,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It is just a hypothesis , I haven't got enough > empirical> > > > > > evidence> > > > > > > > yet , that Mercury and Rahu relationship indicates the> > > > > influence> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > evil spirits.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mercury and Rahu together in 3,8,9 & 12th house or> > > > > separately ,> > > > > > > > mercury in any of the 3 , 8 , 9 & 12th houses while > the > > > Rahu in> > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > of the 5 , 7 , 8 & 11th houses could cause a malady > which

> > > can> > > > > not> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > traced to any apparent reason.Normally such things are > > then> > > > > > > credited> > > > > > > > to the evil spirits.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sincerely,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Priya> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In

lalkitab , SUSAN RANA > > > <susan.tyson@b...>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > I believe that all is astrological, to have black > magic > > > done> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > for this to be effective i feel you would need to have > the> > > > > > > > combination of planets that would allow this to happen.> > > > > > > > > kind regards> > > > > > > > > su> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786> wrote:> > > > > > > > > To all respected members i have a question that how > a > > > layman> > > > > > > > determine> > > > > >

> > > that difficulties one is facing is due to bad effect > of> > > > > planets> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > one has done black magic on it because it is fact > that > > > people> > > > > > do> > > > > > > > black> > > > > > > > > magic , i hope that all memebers participate and > share > > > their> > > > > > > > khowledge> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > thanks> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > rizkhan> > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 25, 2005

Respected Shiripal Ji,

Please forgive me, but I must retort what you have written. Black magic can lead to all of those conditions and more. It can lead one to be excessive (greedy) in a variety of activities depending on the nature of the spirits involved and the methodology with which they have been secured. It also changes the intellectual, emotional and physical abilities and traits of a person so all of the below mentioned conditions are only a fragment of what can be altered.

Sincerely,

Iqbal

Toronto, Canadashripaldalal <shripaldalal wrote:

Dear Mr Dube,these are not problems or symptoms of black magic that's for sure. i do not mean to be offensive, but these r symptoms of an evil person. black magic does not, IT NEVER gives jealousy. also, black magic symptoms are depression, failure, moving about in circles in life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity etc. this is certainly not black magic. i havent seen his chart but it's common sense.regards,shripal dalal.lalkitab , Priyank Dube <priyankdube> wrote:> Dear Mr shripal> > He's person with increase of jealousy, frustration, greed, selfishness, negativity and inability to accept other's happiness & growth, sometime he suddenly starts abnormal behaviour in the sense by creating unnecessary tension, creating family problems

which reaches to extreme, that nobody is able to control him. There are quarrels in the family without any reason. please suggest what do we can do.> > Regards> Priyank> > > shripaldalal <shripaldalal> wrote:> Dear mr dube,> > what exactly are the problems he is facing ? symptoms ?> > regards,> shripal.> > lalkitab , Priyank Dube <priyankdube> > wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > I am posting details of a person please analyze his details and > tell do u think that this person is affected by Black Magic. Please > suggest some remedies also> > > > Details are :> > DOB:7/01/1969> > POB: RAJGARH(MP)> > TOB: 33:32:0/GPV> > Rashi: Leo> > Lagna:Leo> > Nakshtra: Magha> > Paksh: Krishna>

> > > Planet position in Horoscope:> > 5-Moon> > 6- Jup, Ketu> > 7-Mars> > 8-> > 9-Sun> > 10- Mercury> > 11-venus> > 12- Sat, Rahu> > 1-> > 2-> > 3-> > 4-> > > > Regards> > Priyank> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shripaldalal <shripaldalal> wrote:> > Dear nishant saab,> > > > In my experience budh does not give black magic when in 6th or > 12th, > > but it gives it when in 10th. 10th house budh if bad can really > put > > a person in trouble. personal experience.> > > > budh when in 8th house, such a person instead of receiving black > > magic ends up doing these things on others. the person

who was > > responsible for making my life very problematic had budh in 8th > > house. lal kitab in some book i read stated that budh in 8th house > > wala jatak "gupt vidya janne wala hota hai".> > > > budh means a vidya, a skill, an art. black magic itself is an art. > > in hindi they call it meli vidya (dirty vidya). people > underestimate > > it saying that it's just in the mind, but when they really have to > > go through it, they know the real implications.> > > > budh really gives black magic when conjoined with an ashubh > mangal, > > not shani or rahu. an ashubh mangal + budh is banavati shani (rahu > > svabhav) which itself is black magic. they say you can bury a > flute > > with sugar in it for that, but i dont know if anyone here has > tried > > that remedy (shani in seventh house). if it

works then great.> > > > sir, i dont know how exactly budh plays mischief, but i know it > > does. i have no knowledge of this art, but i have tremendous > > experience because i have been victim to it.> > > > Regards,> > Shripal Dalal.> > > > lalkitab , "Nishant A.S." > <nishant_aryan> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello dalal ji,> > > > > > I agree with you fully that its a science,I also agree > with > > > you that budh plays a role as he is the karaka for magic and > > miracles > > > and when he conjuncts with or aspected by Rahu or Shani then > makes > > > the native a potential victim of BM.but budh has to be afflicted >

a > > > lot by his situation in 6,8 or 12 th houses in water signs.> > > > > > he mostly gives depression, failure, moving about in circles in > > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity, all these > > > things are very much symptoms of black magic as correctly > written > > by > > > you.> > > > > > I will be grateful if you explain the role of budh a little > more > > and > > > I'm with you on discussing this topic which has interested me > > since I > > > was a kid.> > > > > > > > > NISHANT> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "shripaldalal" > > <shripaldalal>

> > > wrote:> > > > Dear friends,> > > > > > > > Black magic HAS to be removed if it has been done on you. > There > > are > > > > proper babas, tantrics to do this, but 90% are fake.> > > > > > > > jai saab, shani rahu ketu may be culprits, but never > > underestimate > > > > budh. it's the biggest karaka of black magic.> > > > > > > > as for indications, depression, failure, moving about in > circles > > in > > > > life, sickness without any reason, madness, insanity, all > these > > > > things are very much symptoms of black magic.> > > > > > > > i have also seen that people in this group have taken the > > subject > > > of > > > > black magic so lightly that they have

ignored my previous > pleas > > to > > > > address this great problem. people here dont realise that > people > > > who > > > > ask for help over here may be afflicted by planets, but could > > have > > > > also been afflicted by black magic. this group has taken this > > > > subject very lightly.> > > > > > > > I know this is not documented in lal kitab, but black magic is > > very > > > > much a science, which DOES HAVE very close ties to astrology, > > and > > > > has put 40% of innocent people out there in a lot of trouble.> > > > > > > > My friends, i really think that all of us should taken an > > interest > > > > on how to beat these dirty vidyas (black magic) using the > > science > > >

of > > > > lal kitab which will very much help a lot of people out there.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Shripal Dalal.> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> > > wrote:> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > Rahu, Saturn & Ketu are the main culprits for this.> > > > > And Sun should be strengthened and culprites have to be > > weakened > > > > once it is > > > > > proved that they are doing this mischief.> > > > > Awaiting valuable insights from all the scholars,> > > > > Best regards> > > > > Jai> > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/05, Priyank <priyankdube> wrote: > > > > >

> > > > > > > I fully agree that Black Magic happens, but this is the > > first > > > > time i> > > > > > have come to know that planets also plays and important > role > > in > > > > it.> > > > > > Thank to all Gurujans.> > > > > > I've also witnessed its victims> > > > > > how can one protect self and family by all these things,> > > > > > this should not done , but if someone has done it on you , > > > > atleast> > > > > > u should know about this and also know how u can protect > > urself > > > > by> > > > > > all these.> > > > > > can anybody tell who are masters of this all and where one > > can > > > > find> > > > > >

them.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Priyank> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "Nishant A.S." > > > > <nishant_aryan>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Khaan Sahab,> > > > > > > you made a good point and I fully agree with Dalal ji > that > > > > Black> > > > > > > Magic happens.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I've witnessed its victims and also met people who are > > > masters > > > > of> > > > > > > this all.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But yes

there are combinations of planets given in Vedic > > > > astrology> > > > > > > (I'm not sure about LK)which imply a person liable to be > > its > > > > victim> > > > > > > in due course of his/her life.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rahu and Shani are biggest culprits of this all, plus in > > some> > > > > > lesser> > > > > > > way Mangal is also a great player effecting Black Magic.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > LK only makes Mangal Badh as Karaka for all these things.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sincerely> > > > > > >> > > > > > > NISHANT> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In

lalkitab , "shripaldalal" > > > > <shripaldalal>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > I have seen and experienced with my own two eyes that > > black > > > > magic> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > as real as the sun or the moon, and it truly is > > powerful. > > > > please> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > know that this group discounts black magic, but do > take > > it> > > > > > > > seriously, it truly can put someone in trouble. If > your > > > > times are> > > > > > > > bad (planets are bad) noone is going to bother > troubling > > > > you. But> > > > > > > if> > > > > > >

> your planets and time are good.... out of jealousy > > people > > > do > > > > use> > > > > > > > such things to make sure you dont enjoy your good > times, > > > they> > > > > > make> > > > > > > > your good times bad.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Shripal Dalal.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > lalkitab , "bhooshanpriya"> > > > > > > > <bhooshanpriya> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Susan,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > It is just a hypothesis , I haven't got enough > > empirical> > > > > > > evidence> > > > > > > > >

yet , that Mercury and Rahu relationship indicates > the> > > > > > influence> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > evil spirits.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Mercury and Rahu together in 3,8,9 & 12th house or> > > > > > separately ,> > > > > > > > > mercury in any of the 3 , 8 , 9 & 12th houses while > > the > > > > Rahu in> > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > of the 5 , 7 , 8 & 11th houses could cause a malady > > which > > > > can> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > traced to any apparent reason.Normally such things > are > > >

then> > > > > > > > credited> > > > > > > > > to the evil spirits.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > sincerely,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Priya> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > lalkitab , SUSAN RANA > > > > <susan.tyson@b...>> > > > > > >

> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > I believe that all is astrological, to have black > > magic > > > > done> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > for this to be effective i feel you would need to > have > > the> > > > > > > > > combination of planets that would allow this to > happen.> > > > > > > > > > kind regards> > > > > > > > > > su> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > To all respected members i have a question that > how > > a > > > > layman> > > > > > > > > determine> > > > > > > > > >

that difficulties one is facing is due to bad > effect > > of> > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > one has done black magic on it because it is fact > > that > > > > people> > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > black> > > > > > > > > > magic , i hope that all memebers participate and > > share > > > > their> > > > > > > > > khowledge> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanks> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

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