Is the Sat in 5th and other Upaya ? nishant ji Ranka Rajeev

[Guest guest]

lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan>

wrote:

respected sir

 

thanks for your analysis

the saturn appears to be in fifth as per u r analysis

rahu has given me troubles but other things also as its mahadasha

started in 1990 when i was 20 and whatever i am by default is because

of rahu, i started my career in 1996 and largely where i wanted

too,though with two failures earlier for the same job

so it is difficult to conclude either way frankly

 

presently i am going thru a confused state of mind and thinking of

quitting my respected and coveted govt job and going abroad and

doing an MBA and leaving the country for good ,will it be possible or

its just a passing phase(if you could suggest an appropriate time)

pls give timing of doing upay i.e when they should be

done ,immediately or at a later satge and are the same according to

varshphal or janam kundali

and should i quit putting tilak of kesar

and which upay to follow ,as priyaji has a completely different

analysis

putting kesar tilak it appears has helped me

thanks and regards

rajeev

 

>

>

> hi rajeev ji,how r u.

>

> well LK does not anywhere says to use astro maths to find in

which

> house a planet is,surely doesnt tell us about bhava

> sphutas.Degrees,lagna,moving rashis, find no importance in LK.But

its

> good to combine vedic with LK,if accuracy is to be enhanced.

>

> To confirm the house position,infact we should also use the astro-

> palmistric methods given in it.

>

> 1.If Saturn is in 5th house in your horoscope,you'll have on your

> palm a line from mount saturn which cuts the line of health.

>

> 2. If its in 6th then a line from Saturn will come down to the area

> between line of heart and line of head just below the mount of

saturn.

>

> Now it surely comes to which method do we use, either vedic or LK

or

> combination of both,my experience says that combination really

works

> better than both used alone.

>

> Now we all know that according to Vedic system, 1st house is Mastak

> or forehead,LK calls second house as Mastak or Peshani Ka Sthaan,

but

> again i've led by my experience that 1st should be considered the

> house for forehead,second is neck/throat(LK goes other way

> round),thus Vedic is more accurate here.

>

> Atleast 14 natives whom i suggested applying tilak to make planet

> reach in 1st house have benefitted, here I often say that

experience

> of effectiveness of remedy should support the remedy, we cant apply

> the remedies following text to text.

>

>

> Now to silver elephant remedy,here in this case i've opposed LK

> seriously, beacuse at times you cant just accept the planets in

fixed

> signs in horoscopes, as in your case Dhanu lagna, rahu in 3rd would

> mean Rahu in aquarius,and would not give good results for this

lagna

> for sure.

>

> again general results of planets placed in houses cant be applied

> verbalim,because I myself have rahu alone in 3rd ,mesha lagna, but

> believe me all dasha/antardasha of rahu have troubled me a lot,even

> if you use LK dashas,(though Vimshottari dasha has no parallel)and

he

> has not protected me ever,infact I know he is the culprit,thus what

> bigger example can I site than myself.

>

> When I was new to LK , in lot of charts I said after seeing Rahu

> in 3rd that native should posses all qualities mentioned in LK,but

> that wasnt the case in reality,and thus I was forced to consider

> Vedic here as well,by noticing that Rahu was giving bad results, I

> suggested them this remedy which worked wonderfully.

>

> Anyways I again have no intention to contradict the calibre of

> priya ji,she is senior astrologer,and definitely a master of LK.

>

> What she suggested you,you should it give a thorough look.

>

> I just wrote about my experiences,you decide yourself after going

> through your own life events, did this Rahu dasha helped you, or do

> you posses all qualities mentioned being its position in 3rd,does

> money and luck were always with you etc,it best to compare the text

> with actual life events and then follow the going.

>

>

>

>

>

> Sincerely

>

>

> NISHANT

>

>

>

>

>

>

lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

<bhooshanpriya>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rajeev ji,

> >

> > [ 1 ] Your Ascendant is at 7d : 59m in `Dhanu' . The Saturn is at

> > 29d : 02m in Mesh. With the center of the fifth house being on or

> > about 7 degrees in Mesh , if we include the Saturn in the 5th

> house ,

> > a planet which is 22 degrees away from the center, the 5th house

> will

> > spread to 44 degrees . Normally the houses are 30 degrees across

{

> > approx} Therefore , after Bhav spashtha , Saturn will be

considered

> > in the 6th house and not in the 5th house. It is entirely up to

you

> > to accept this fact. I just thought of bringing it to your notice.

> >

> > [ 2 ] The place where we put the `tilak' is the 2nd house.

> Therefore

> > when we apply the tilak of kesar or haldi we place the Jupiter in

> the

> > 2nd house and not in the 1st house.

> >

> > [ 3 ] Throwing into flowing water a silver elephant in your case

> is

> > not the correct remedy.

> > Your Rahu is placed in the 3rd house. The book says , " oonche

> > aasmaan ki choti tak sahayata karne wala / ameer zaydadon wala /

> rahu

> > akela hi hone ki halat mein swayam aayu aur dhan ka rakhwala /

> haath

> > mein bandook liye pakka nishanebaaz aur chaukanna pahare dar

hai / "

> >

> > Throwing into water means removing or distancing or known

> as 'chandra

> > ko saupana' . Now will it be wise to remove such a great

> protector ?

> > Once this protector is removed , you might be exposed to all

kinds

> of

> > things , not just the dangers alone.

> >

> > [ 4 ] The remedy was , it seems , suggested because of the Rahu's

> > aspect on the Jupiter.

> > Now coming to the rahu's aspect on the Jupiter placed in the

> 11th.

> > If , through events, it is proved that Jupiter is in distress

> > because of Rahu then we have to do an Upaya. Once again throwing

> into

> > flowing water, a silver elephant will not be the upaya.

> > The mandi halat of Jupiter will be displayed through problems to

> the

> > wife , sisters and Bua. If that is so , then we have to think who

> is

> > effecting Jupiter. Rahu , would of course be one of them.

> >

> > In your case , Saturn is another. Saturn is at 29d : 02m in

Mesh .

> > After the bhav spashtha it moves to the 6th house. Now the

Jupiter

> is

> > in the position of `takarav' with the Saturn. Remember the

Jupiter

> is

> > in the 11th house , a house associated with Saturn.

> >

> > Therefore , the Upaya will have to be for both Saturn and the

> Rahu .

> > At the same time we will have to strengthen the Jupiter.

> >

> > Upaya for Saturn : { I consider it in the 6th house }

> >

> > [ 1 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil in an earthen

> pot .

> > Cement the lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into the water.

> Bury

> > the pot deep enough such that it stays under water.

> > [ 2 ] Fulfill your promises.

> >

> > Upaya for the aspect of Rahu on the Jupiter placed in the 11th

> house.

> >

> > Rahu + Jupiter = mercury

> >

> > Therefore the upaya will have to be done through mercury .

> >

> > [ 1 ] Feed 11 kanya , girls below 10 yrs , on any day.

> > [ 2 ] Keep giving some thing to your sisters and Bua.

> > [ 3 ] Now and then give a few coins to a sweeper.

> >

> > Upaya to strengthen Jupiter.

> >

> > [ 1 ] Keep with you any thing that your father has used.

> > [ 2 ] Sleep on a bed-sheet or `bistar' that your father has used.

> >

> > So long as your father is alive , no harm ever will come to you.

> >

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Priya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " rankarajeev " <rankarajeev>

> > wrote:

> > > if one has saturn in 5th then is buying or constructing house

> > > prohibited and will it effect the life of siblings adversely

> > > even if one has jupiter lets say in the 11th or the 1st house

> > >

> > >

> > > and kindly state what happens when one puts keasr tilak ,are we

> > moving

> > > jupiter to 1st house ,is it an LK remedy or a vedic remedy

> > >

> > > any remedies for

> > > the below mentioned particulars

> > > DOB 23-08-1970

> > > TIME 15:22 PM

> > > POB UDAIPUR ,RAJASTHAN

> > >

> > > RAHU IN 3RD

> > > SATURN IN 5TH

> > > MOON IN 6TH

> > > MARS IN 8TH

> > > SUN AND KETU IN 9TH

> > > MERCURY AND VENUS IN 10TH

> > > JUPITER IN 11TH

> > > PRESENT DASHA RAHU -VENUS -SATURN ENDING 27/08/2005

> > > REGARDS

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hello rajeev ji,

 

I told you that applying tilak makes the planet reach in 1 st house,

 

now if you apply kesar and acc. to LK jupiter reaches in 2nd house

then it would be in taurus ,sign of venus, its enemy house , how come

it do good there,but once its assumed that it would reach in 1st

house that is aries,sign of friend it would be positive.

 

Now here you see I have combined both LK and Vedic.

 

Rahu has given mixed results for you as its greatly controlled by

the aspects of Sun and Mars.This is why you are in a govt. job.

 

Your Present Dasha is bad but period will improve from april 2006,

then can do PG from India, chances of going abroad, seem not much

bright till 2008.But I would suggest you not to leave your govt. job,

do the remedy what I suggested but please dont be confused, Priya Ji

and I have different styles.

 

Do what ever clicks to you,if you want to do priya ji upayas do

those or if you do want to do mine make your choice.

 

 

Sincerely

 

NISHANT

 

 

lalkitab , " rankarajeev " <rankarajeev>

wrote:

> lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. "

<nishant_aryan>

> wrote:

> respected sir

>

> thanks for your analysis

> the saturn appears to be in fifth as per u r analysis

> rahu has given me troubles but other things also as its mahadasha

> started in 1990 when i was 20 and whatever i am by default is

because

> of rahu, i started my career in 1996 and largely where i wanted

> too,though with two failures earlier for the same job

> so it is difficult to conclude either way frankly

>

> presently i am going thru a confused state of mind and thinking of

> quitting my respected and coveted govt job and going abroad and

> doing an MBA and leaving the country for good ,will it be possible

or

> its just a passing phase(if you could suggest an appropriate time)

> pls give timing of doing upay i.e when they should be

> done ,immediately or at a later satge and are the same according to

> varshphal or janam kundali

> and should i quit putting tilak of kesar

> and which upay to follow ,as priyaji has a completely different

> analysis

> putting kesar tilak it appears has helped me

> thanks and regards

> rajeev

>

> >

> >

> > hi rajeev ji,how r u.

> >

> > well LK does not anywhere says to use astro maths to find in

> which

> > house a planet is,surely doesnt tell us about bhava

> > sphutas.Degrees,lagna,moving rashis, find no importance in LK.But

> its

> > good to combine vedic with LK,if accuracy is to be enhanced.

> >

> > To confirm the house position,infact we should also use the

astro-

> > palmistric methods given in it.

> >

> > 1.If Saturn is in 5th house in your horoscope,you'll have on your

> > palm a line from mount saturn which cuts the line of health.

> >

> > 2. If its in 6th then a line from Saturn will come down to the

area

> > between line of heart and line of head just below the mount of

> saturn.

> >

> > Now it surely comes to which method do we use, either vedic or

LK

> or

> > combination of both,my experience says that combination really

> works

> > better than both used alone.

> >

> > Now we all know that according to Vedic system, 1st house is

Mastak

> > or forehead,LK calls second house as Mastak or Peshani Ka Sthaan,

> but

> > again i've led by my experience that 1st should be considered the

> > house for forehead,second is neck/throat(LK goes other way

> > round),thus Vedic is more accurate here.

> >

> > Atleast 14 natives whom i suggested applying tilak to make

planet

> > reach in 1st house have benefitted, here I often say that

> experience

> > of effectiveness of remedy should support the remedy, we cant

apply

> > the remedies following text to text.

> >

> >

> > Now to silver elephant remedy,here in this case i've opposed LK

> > seriously, beacuse at times you cant just accept the planets in

> fixed

> > signs in horoscopes, as in your case Dhanu lagna, rahu in 3rd

would

> > mean Rahu in aquarius,and would not give good results for this

> lagna

> > for sure.

> >

> > again general results of planets placed in houses cant be

applied

> > verbalim,because I myself have rahu alone in 3rd ,mesha lagna,

but

> > believe me all dasha/antardasha of rahu have troubled me a

lot,even

> > if you use LK dashas,(though Vimshottari dasha has no parallel)

and

> he

> > has not protected me ever,infact I know he is the culprit,thus

what

> > bigger example can I site than myself.

> >

> > When I was new to LK , in lot of charts I said after seeing

Rahu

> > in 3rd that native should posses all qualities mentioned in

LK,but

> > that wasnt the case in reality,and thus I was forced to consider

> > Vedic here as well,by noticing that Rahu was giving bad results,

I

> > suggested them this remedy which worked wonderfully.

> >

> > Anyways I again have no intention to contradict the calibre of

> > priya ji,she is senior astrologer,and definitely a master of LK.

> >

> > What she suggested you,you should it give a thorough look.

> >

> > I just wrote about my experiences,you decide yourself after going

> > through your own life events, did this Rahu dasha helped you, or

do

> > you posses all qualities mentioned being its position in 3rd,does

> > money and luck were always with you etc,it best to compare the

text

> > with actual life events and then follow the going.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sincerely

> >

> >

> > NISHANT

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

> <bhooshanpriya>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > >

> > > [ 1 ] Your Ascendant is at 7d : 59m in `Dhanu' . The Saturn is

at

> > > 29d : 02m in Mesh. With the center of the fifth house being on

or

> > > about 7 degrees in Mesh , if we include the Saturn in the 5th

> > house ,

> > > a planet which is 22 degrees away from the center, the 5th

house

> > will

> > > spread to 44 degrees . Normally the houses are 30 degrees

across

> {

> > > approx} Therefore , after Bhav spashtha , Saturn will be

> considered

> > > in the 6th house and not in the 5th house. It is entirely up to

> you

> > > to accept this fact. I just thought of bringing it to your

notice.

> > >

> > > [ 2 ] The place where we put the `tilak' is the 2nd house.

> > Therefore

> > > when we apply the tilak of kesar or haldi we place the Jupiter

in

> > the

> > > 2nd house and not in the 1st house.

> > >

> > > [ 3 ] Throwing into flowing water a silver elephant in your

case

> > is

> > > not the correct remedy.

> > > Your Rahu is placed in the 3rd house. The book says , " oonche

> > > aasmaan ki choti tak sahayata karne wala / ameer zaydadon

wala /

> > rahu

> > > akela hi hone ki halat mein swayam aayu aur dhan ka rakhwala /

> > haath

> > > mein bandook liye pakka nishanebaaz aur chaukanna pahare dar

> hai / "

> > >

> > > Throwing into water means removing or distancing or known

> > as 'chandra

> > > ko saupana' . Now will it be wise to remove such a great

> > protector ?

> > > Once this protector is removed , you might be exposed to all

> kinds

> > of

> > > things , not just the dangers alone.

> > >

> > > [ 4 ] The remedy was , it seems , suggested because of the

Rahu's

> > > aspect on the Jupiter.

> > > Now coming to the rahu's aspect on the Jupiter placed in the

> > 11th.

> > > If , through events, it is proved that Jupiter is in distress

> > > because of Rahu then we have to do an Upaya. Once again

throwing

> > into

> > > flowing water, a silver elephant will not be the upaya.

> > > The mandi halat of Jupiter will be displayed through problems

to

> > the

> > > wife , sisters and Bua. If that is so , then we have to think

who

> > is

> > > effecting Jupiter. Rahu , would of course be one of them.

> > >

> > > In your case , Saturn is another. Saturn is at 29d : 02m in

> Mesh .

> > > After the bhav spashtha it moves to the 6th house. Now the

> Jupiter

> > is

> > > in the position of `takarav' with the Saturn. Remember the

> Jupiter

> > is

> > > in the 11th house , a house associated with Saturn.

> > >

> > > Therefore , the Upaya will have to be for both Saturn and the

> > Rahu .

> > > At the same time we will have to strengthen the Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Upaya for Saturn : { I consider it in the 6th house }

> > >

> > > [ 1 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil in an earthen

> > pot .

> > > Cement the lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into the

water.

> > Bury

> > > the pot deep enough such that it stays under water.

> > > [ 2 ] Fulfill your promises.

> > >

> > > Upaya for the aspect of Rahu on the Jupiter placed in the 11th

> > house.

> > >

> > > Rahu + Jupiter = mercury

> > >

> > > Therefore the upaya will have to be done through mercury .

> > >

> > > [ 1 ] Feed 11 kanya , girls below 10 yrs , on any day.

> > > [ 2 ] Keep giving some thing to your sisters and Bua.

> > > [ 3 ] Now and then give a few coins to a sweeper.

> > >

> > > Upaya to strengthen Jupiter.

> > >

> > > [ 1 ] Keep with you any thing that your father has used.

> > > [ 2 ] Sleep on a bed-sheet or `bistar' that your father has

used.

> > >

> > > So long as your father is alive , no harm ever will come to you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > Priya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > lalkitab , " rankarajeev "

<rankarajeev>

> > > wrote:

> > > > if one has saturn in 5th then is buying or constructing house

> > > > prohibited and will it effect the life of siblings adversely

> > > > even if one has jupiter lets say in the 11th or the 1st house

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > and kindly state what happens when one puts keasr tilak ,are

we

> > > moving

> > > > jupiter to 1st house ,is it an LK remedy or a vedic remedy

> > > >

> > > > any remedies for

> > > > the below mentioned particulars

> > > > DOB 23-08-1970

> > > > TIME 15:22 PM

> > > > POB UDAIPUR ,RAJASTHAN

> > > >

> > > > RAHU IN 3RD

> > > > SATURN IN 5TH

> > > > MOON IN 6TH

> > > > MARS IN 8TH

> > > > SUN AND KETU IN 9TH

> > > > MERCURY AND VENUS IN 10TH

> > > > JUPITER IN 11TH

> > > > PRESENT DASHA RAHU -VENUS -SATURN ENDING 27/08/2005

> > > > REGARDS