Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Dear Rajeev ji, [ 1 ] Your Ascendant is at 7d : 59m in `Dhanu' . The Saturn is at 29d : 02m in Mesh. With the center of the fifth house being on or about 7 degrees in Mesh , if we include the Saturn in the 5th house , a planet which is 22 degrees away from the center, the 5th house will spread to 44 degrees . Normally the houses are 30 degrees across { approx} Therefore , after Bhav spashtha , Saturn will be considered in the 6th house and not in the 5th house. It is entirely up to you to accept this fact. I just thought of bringing it to your notice. [ 2 ] The place where we put the `tilak' is the 2nd house. Therefore when we apply the tilak of kesar or haldi we place the Jupiter in the 2nd house and not in the 1st house. [ 3 ] Throwing into flowing water a silver elephant in your case is not the correct remedy. Your Rahu is placed in the 3rd house. The book says , " oonche aasmaan ki choti tak sahayata karne wala / ameer zaydadon wala / rahu akela hi hone ki halat mein swayam aayu aur dhan ka rakhwala / haath mein bandook liye pakka nishanebaaz aur chaukanna pahare dar hai / " Throwing into water means removing or distancing or known as 'chandra ko saupana' . Now will it be wise to remove such a great protector ? Once this protector is removed , you might be exposed to all kinds of things , not just the dangers alone. [ 4 ] The remedy was , it seems , suggested because of the Rahu's aspect on the Jupiter. Now coming to the rahu's aspect on the Jupiter placed in the 11th. If , through events, it is proved that Jupiter is in distress because of Rahu then we have to do an Upaya. Once again throwing into flowing water, a silver elephant will not be the upaya. The mandi halat of Jupiter will be displayed through problems to the wife , sisters and Bua. If that is so , then we have to think who is effecting Jupiter. Rahu , would of course be one of them. In your case , Saturn is another. Saturn is at 29d : 02m in Mesh . After the bhav spashtha it moves to the 6th house. Now the Jupiter is in the position of `takarav' with the Saturn. Remember the Jupiter is in the 11th house , a house associated with Saturn. Therefore , the Upaya will have to be for both Saturn and the Rahu . At the same time we will have to strengthen the Jupiter. Upaya for Saturn : { I consider it in the 6th house } [ 1 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil in an earthen pot . Cement the lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into the water. Bury the pot deep enough such that it stays under water. [ 2 ] Fulfill your promises. Upaya for the aspect of Rahu on the Jupiter placed in the 11th house. Rahu + Jupiter = mercury Therefore the upaya will have to be done through mercury . [ 1 ] Feed 11 kanya , girls below 10 yrs , on any day. [ 2 ] Keep giving some thing to your sisters and Bua. [ 3 ] Now and then give a few coins to a sweeper. Upaya to strengthen Jupiter. [ 1 ] Keep with you any thing that your father has used. [ 2 ] Sleep on a bed-sheet or `bistar' that your father has used. So long as your father is alive , no harm ever will come to you. Sincerely, Priya lalkitab , " rankarajeev " <rankarajeev> wrote: > if one has saturn in 5th then is buying or constructing house > prohibited and will it effect the life of siblings adversely > even if one has jupiter lets say in the 11th or the 1st house > > > and kindly state what happens when one puts keasr tilak ,are we moving > jupiter to 1st house ,is it an LK remedy or a vedic remedy > > any remedies for > the below mentioned particulars > DOB 23-08-1970 > TIME 15:22 PM > POB UDAIPUR ,RAJASTHAN > > RAHU IN 3RD > SATURN IN 5TH > MOON IN 6TH > MARS IN 8TH > SUN AND KETU IN 9TH > MERCURY AND VENUS IN 10TH > JUPITER IN 11TH > PRESENT DASHA RAHU -VENUS -SATURN ENDING 27/08/2005 > REGARDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 hi rajeev ji,how r u. well LK does not anywhere says to use astro maths to find in which house a planet is,surely doesnt tell us about bhava sphutas.Degrees,lagna,moving rashis, find no importance in LK.But its good to combine vedic with LK,if accuracy is to be enhanced. To confirm the house position,infact we should also use the astro- palmistric methods given in it. 1.If Saturn is in 5th house in your horoscope,you'll have on your palm a line from mount saturn which cuts the line of health. 2. If its in 6th then a line from Saturn will come down to the area between line of heart and line of head just below the mount of saturn. Now it surely comes to which method do we use, either vedic or LK or combination of both,my experience says that combination really works better than both used alone. Now we all know that according to Vedic system, 1st house is Mastak or forehead,LK calls second house as Mastak or Peshani Ka Sthaan, but again i've led by my experience that 1st should be considered the house for forehead,second is neck/throat(LK goes other way round),thus Vedic is more accurate here. Atleast 14 natives whom i suggested applying tilak to make planet reach in 1st house have benefitted, here I often say that experience of effectiveness of remedy should support the remedy, we cant apply the remedies following text to text. Now to silver elephant remedy,here in this case i've opposed LK seriously, beacuse at times you cant just accept the planets in fixed signs in horoscopes, as in your case Dhanu lagna, rahu in 3rd would mean Rahu in aquarius,and would not give good results for this lagna for sure. again general results of planets placed in houses cant be applied verbalim,because I myself have rahu alone in 3rd ,mesha lagna, but believe me all dasha/antardasha of rahu have troubled me a lot,even if you use LK dashas,(though Vimshottari dasha has no parallel)and he has not protected me ever,infact I know he is the culprit,thus what bigger example can I site than myself. When I was new to LK , in lot of charts I said after seeing Rahu in 3rd that native should posses all qualities mentioned in LK,but that wasnt the case in reality,and thus I was forced to consider Vedic here as well,by noticing that Rahu was giving bad results, I suggested them this remedy which worked wonderfully. Anyways I again have no intention to contradict the calibre of priya ji,she is senior astrologer,and definitely a master of LK. What she suggested you,you should it give a thorough look. I just wrote about my experiences,you decide yourself after going through your own life events, did this Rahu dasha helped you, or do you posses all qualities mentioned being its position in 3rd,does money and luck were always with you etc,it best to compare the text with actual life events and then follow the going. Sincerely NISHANT lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > Dear Rajeev ji, > > [ 1 ] Your Ascendant is at 7d : 59m in `Dhanu' . The Saturn is at > 29d : 02m in Mesh. With the center of the fifth house being on or > about 7 degrees in Mesh , if we include the Saturn in the 5th house , > a planet which is 22 degrees away from the center, the 5th house will > spread to 44 degrees . Normally the houses are 30 degrees across { > approx} Therefore , after Bhav spashtha , Saturn will be considered > in the 6th house and not in the 5th house. It is entirely up to you > to accept this fact. I just thought of bringing it to your notice. > > [ 2 ] The place where we put the `tilak' is the 2nd house. Therefore > when we apply the tilak of kesar or haldi we place the Jupiter in the > 2nd house and not in the 1st house. > > [ 3 ] Throwing into flowing water a silver elephant in your case is > not the correct remedy. > Your Rahu is placed in the 3rd house. The book says , " oonche > aasmaan ki choti tak sahayata karne wala / ameer zaydadon wala / rahu > akela hi hone ki halat mein swayam aayu aur dhan ka rakhwala / haath > mein bandook liye pakka nishanebaaz aur chaukanna pahare dar hai / " > > Throwing into water means removing or distancing or known as 'chandra > ko saupana' . Now will it be wise to remove such a great protector ? > Once this protector is removed , you might be exposed to all kinds of > things , not just the dangers alone. > > [ 4 ] The remedy was , it seems , suggested because of the Rahu's > aspect on the Jupiter. > Now coming to the rahu's aspect on the Jupiter placed in the 11th. > If , through events, it is proved that Jupiter is in distress > because of Rahu then we have to do an Upaya. Once again throwing into > flowing water, a silver elephant will not be the upaya. > The mandi halat of Jupiter will be displayed through problems to the > wife , sisters and Bua. If that is so , then we have to think who is > effecting Jupiter. Rahu , would of course be one of them. > > In your case , Saturn is another. Saturn is at 29d : 02m in Mesh . > After the bhav spashtha it moves to the 6th house. Now the Jupiter is > in the position of `takarav' with the Saturn. Remember the Jupiter is > in the 11th house , a house associated with Saturn. > > Therefore , the Upaya will have to be for both Saturn and the Rahu . > At the same time we will have to strengthen the Jupiter. > > Upaya for Saturn : { I consider it in the 6th house } > > [ 1 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil in an earthen pot . > Cement the lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into the water. Bury > the pot deep enough such that it stays under water. > [ 2 ] Fulfill your promises. > > Upaya for the aspect of Rahu on the Jupiter placed in the 11th house. > > Rahu + Jupiter = mercury > > Therefore the upaya will have to be done through mercury . > > [ 1 ] Feed 11 kanya , girls below 10 yrs , on any day. > [ 2 ] Keep giving some thing to your sisters and Bua. > [ 3 ] Now and then give a few coins to a sweeper. > > Upaya to strengthen Jupiter. > > [ 1 ] Keep with you any thing that your father has used. > [ 2 ] Sleep on a bed-sheet or `bistar' that your father has used. > > So long as your father is alive , no harm ever will come to you. > > > Sincerely, > > Priya > > > > > lalkitab , " rankarajeev " <rankarajeev> > wrote: > > if one has saturn in 5th then is buying or constructing house > > prohibited and will it effect the life of siblings adversely > > even if one has jupiter lets say in the 11th or the 1st house > > > > > > and kindly state what happens when one puts keasr tilak ,are we > moving > > jupiter to 1st house ,is it an LK remedy or a vedic remedy > > > > any remedies for > > the below mentioned particulars > > DOB 23-08-1970 > > TIME 15:22 PM > > POB UDAIPUR ,RAJASTHAN > > > > RAHU IN 3RD > > SATURN IN 5TH > > MOON IN 6TH > > MARS IN 8TH > > SUN AND KETU IN 9TH > > MERCURY AND VENUS IN 10TH > > JUPITER IN 11TH > > PRESENT DASHA RAHU -VENUS -SATURN ENDING 27/08/2005 > > REGARDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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