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Dear Rajeev ji,

 

[ 1 ] Your Ascendant is at 7d : 59m in `Dhanu' . The Saturn is at

29d : 02m in Mesh. With the center of the fifth house being on or

about 7 degrees in Mesh , if we include the Saturn in the 5th house ,

a planet which is 22 degrees away from the center, the 5th house will

spread to 44 degrees . Normally the houses are 30 degrees across {

approx} Therefore , after Bhav spashtha , Saturn will be considered

in the 6th house and not in the 5th house. It is entirely up to you

to accept this fact. I just thought of bringing it to your notice.

 

[ 2 ] The place where we put the `tilak' is the 2nd house. Therefore

when we apply the tilak of kesar or haldi we place the Jupiter in the

2nd house and not in the 1st house.

 

[ 3 ] Throwing into flowing water a silver elephant in your case is

not the correct remedy.

Your Rahu is placed in the 3rd house. The book says , " oonche

aasmaan ki choti tak sahayata karne wala / ameer zaydadon wala / rahu

akela hi hone ki halat mein swayam aayu aur dhan ka rakhwala / haath

mein bandook liye pakka nishanebaaz aur chaukanna pahare dar hai / "

 

Throwing into water means removing or distancing or known as 'chandra

ko saupana' . Now will it be wise to remove such a great protector ?

Once this protector is removed , you might be exposed to all kinds of

things , not just the dangers alone.

 

[ 4 ] The remedy was , it seems , suggested because of the Rahu's

aspect on the Jupiter.

Now coming to the rahu's aspect on the Jupiter placed in the 11th.

If , through events, it is proved that Jupiter is in distress

because of Rahu then we have to do an Upaya. Once again throwing into

flowing water, a silver elephant will not be the upaya.

The mandi halat of Jupiter will be displayed through problems to the

wife , sisters and Bua. If that is so , then we have to think who is

effecting Jupiter. Rahu , would of course be one of them.

 

In your case , Saturn is another. Saturn is at 29d : 02m in Mesh .

After the bhav spashtha it moves to the 6th house. Now the Jupiter is

in the position of `takarav' with the Saturn. Remember the Jupiter is

in the 11th house , a house associated with Saturn.

 

Therefore , the Upaya will have to be for both Saturn and the Rahu .

At the same time we will have to strengthen the Jupiter.

 

Upaya for Saturn : { I consider it in the 6th house }

 

[ 1 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil in an earthen pot .

Cement the lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into the water. Bury

the pot deep enough such that it stays under water.

[ 2 ] Fulfill your promises.

 

Upaya for the aspect of Rahu on the Jupiter placed in the 11th house.

 

Rahu + Jupiter = mercury

 

Therefore the upaya will have to be done through mercury .

 

[ 1 ] Feed 11 kanya , girls below 10 yrs , on any day.

[ 2 ] Keep giving some thing to your sisters and Bua.

[ 3 ] Now and then give a few coins to a sweeper.

 

Upaya to strengthen Jupiter.

 

[ 1 ] Keep with you any thing that your father has used.

[ 2 ] Sleep on a bed-sheet or `bistar' that your father has used.

 

So long as your father is alive , no harm ever will come to you.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , " rankarajeev " <rankarajeev>

wrote:

> if one has saturn in 5th then is buying or constructing house

> prohibited and will it effect the life of siblings adversely

> even if one has jupiter lets say in the 11th or the 1st house

>

>

> and kindly state what happens when one puts keasr tilak ,are we

moving

> jupiter to 1st house ,is it an LK remedy or a vedic remedy

>

> any remedies for

> the below mentioned particulars

> DOB 23-08-1970

> TIME 15:22 PM

> POB UDAIPUR ,RAJASTHAN

>

> RAHU IN 3RD

> SATURN IN 5TH

> MOON IN 6TH

> MARS IN 8TH

> SUN AND KETU IN 9TH

> MERCURY AND VENUS IN 10TH

> JUPITER IN 11TH

> PRESENT DASHA RAHU -VENUS -SATURN ENDING 27/08/2005

> REGARDS

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hi rajeev ji,how r u.

 

well LK does not anywhere says to use astro maths to find in which

house a planet is,surely doesnt tell us about bhava

sphutas.Degrees,lagna,moving rashis, find no importance in LK.But its

good to combine vedic with LK,if accuracy is to be enhanced.

 

To confirm the house position,infact we should also use the astro-

palmistric methods given in it.

 

1.If Saturn is in 5th house in your horoscope,you'll have on your

palm a line from mount saturn which cuts the line of health.

 

2. If its in 6th then a line from Saturn will come down to the area

between line of heart and line of head just below the mount of saturn.

 

Now it surely comes to which method do we use, either vedic or LK or

combination of both,my experience says that combination really works

better than both used alone.

 

Now we all know that according to Vedic system, 1st house is Mastak

or forehead,LK calls second house as Mastak or Peshani Ka Sthaan, but

again i've led by my experience that 1st should be considered the

house for forehead,second is neck/throat(LK goes other way

round),thus Vedic is more accurate here.

 

Atleast 14 natives whom i suggested applying tilak to make planet

reach in 1st house have benefitted, here I often say that experience

of effectiveness of remedy should support the remedy, we cant apply

the remedies following text to text.

 

 

Now to silver elephant remedy,here in this case i've opposed LK

seriously, beacuse at times you cant just accept the planets in fixed

signs in horoscopes, as in your case Dhanu lagna, rahu in 3rd would

mean Rahu in aquarius,and would not give good results for this lagna

for sure.

 

again general results of planets placed in houses cant be applied

verbalim,because I myself have rahu alone in 3rd ,mesha lagna, but

believe me all dasha/antardasha of rahu have troubled me a lot,even

if you use LK dashas,(though Vimshottari dasha has no parallel)and he

has not protected me ever,infact I know he is the culprit,thus what

bigger example can I site than myself.

 

When I was new to LK , in lot of charts I said after seeing Rahu

in 3rd that native should posses all qualities mentioned in LK,but

that wasnt the case in reality,and thus I was forced to consider

Vedic here as well,by noticing that Rahu was giving bad results, I

suggested them this remedy which worked wonderfully.

 

Anyways I again have no intention to contradict the calibre of

priya ji,she is senior astrologer,and definitely a master of LK.

 

What she suggested you,you should it give a thorough look.

 

I just wrote about my experiences,you decide yourself after going

through your own life events, did this Rahu dasha helped you, or do

you posses all qualities mentioned being its position in 3rd,does

money and luck were always with you etc,it best to compare the text

with actual life events and then follow the going.

 

 

 

 

 

Sincerely

 

 

NISHANT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya>

wrote:

> Dear Rajeev ji,

>

> [ 1 ] Your Ascendant is at 7d : 59m in `Dhanu' . The Saturn is at

> 29d : 02m in Mesh. With the center of the fifth house being on or

> about 7 degrees in Mesh , if we include the Saturn in the 5th

house ,

> a planet which is 22 degrees away from the center, the 5th house

will

> spread to 44 degrees . Normally the houses are 30 degrees across {

> approx} Therefore , after Bhav spashtha , Saturn will be considered

> in the 6th house and not in the 5th house. It is entirely up to you

> to accept this fact. I just thought of bringing it to your notice.

>

> [ 2 ] The place where we put the `tilak' is the 2nd house.

Therefore

> when we apply the tilak of kesar or haldi we place the Jupiter in

the

> 2nd house and not in the 1st house.

>

> [ 3 ] Throwing into flowing water a silver elephant in your case

is

> not the correct remedy.

> Your Rahu is placed in the 3rd house. The book says , " oonche

> aasmaan ki choti tak sahayata karne wala / ameer zaydadon wala /

rahu

> akela hi hone ki halat mein swayam aayu aur dhan ka rakhwala /

haath

> mein bandook liye pakka nishanebaaz aur chaukanna pahare dar hai / "

>

> Throwing into water means removing or distancing or known

as 'chandra

> ko saupana' . Now will it be wise to remove such a great

protector ?

> Once this protector is removed , you might be exposed to all kinds

of

> things , not just the dangers alone.

>

> [ 4 ] The remedy was , it seems , suggested because of the Rahu's

> aspect on the Jupiter.

> Now coming to the rahu's aspect on the Jupiter placed in the

11th.

> If , through events, it is proved that Jupiter is in distress

> because of Rahu then we have to do an Upaya. Once again throwing

into

> flowing water, a silver elephant will not be the upaya.

> The mandi halat of Jupiter will be displayed through problems to

the

> wife , sisters and Bua. If that is so , then we have to think who

is

> effecting Jupiter. Rahu , would of course be one of them.

>

> In your case , Saturn is another. Saturn is at 29d : 02m in Mesh .

> After the bhav spashtha it moves to the 6th house. Now the Jupiter

is

> in the position of `takarav' with the Saturn. Remember the Jupiter

is

> in the 11th house , a house associated with Saturn.

>

> Therefore , the Upaya will have to be for both Saturn and the

Rahu .

> At the same time we will have to strengthen the Jupiter.

>

> Upaya for Saturn : { I consider it in the 6th house }

>

> [ 1 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil in an earthen

pot .

> Cement the lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into the water.

Bury

> the pot deep enough such that it stays under water.

> [ 2 ] Fulfill your promises.

>

> Upaya for the aspect of Rahu on the Jupiter placed in the 11th

house.

>

> Rahu + Jupiter = mercury

>

> Therefore the upaya will have to be done through mercury .

>

> [ 1 ] Feed 11 kanya , girls below 10 yrs , on any day.

> [ 2 ] Keep giving some thing to your sisters and Bua.

> [ 3 ] Now and then give a few coins to a sweeper.

>

> Upaya to strengthen Jupiter.

>

> [ 1 ] Keep with you any thing that your father has used.

> [ 2 ] Sleep on a bed-sheet or `bistar' that your father has used.

>

> So long as your father is alive , no harm ever will come to you.

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Priya

>

>

>

>

>

lalkitab , " rankarajeev " <rankarajeev>

> wrote:

> > if one has saturn in 5th then is buying or constructing house

> > prohibited and will it effect the life of siblings adversely

> > even if one has jupiter lets say in the 11th or the 1st house

> >

> >

> > and kindly state what happens when one puts keasr tilak ,are we

> moving

> > jupiter to 1st house ,is it an LK remedy or a vedic remedy

> >

> > any remedies for

> > the below mentioned particulars

> > DOB 23-08-1970

> > TIME 15:22 PM

> > POB UDAIPUR ,RAJASTHAN

> >

> > RAHU IN 3RD

> > SATURN IN 5TH

> > MOON IN 6TH

> > MARS IN 8TH

> > SUN AND KETU IN 9TH

> > MERCURY AND VENUS IN 10TH

> > JUPITER IN 11TH

> > PRESENT DASHA RAHU -VENUS -SATURN ENDING 27/08/2005

> > REGARDS

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