Pisces Lagna Chart - Mental Disorder

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Group,

 

Find guy's chart : 29 - 03 - 1977, 05 : 35 am, Vidisha, MP, India.

 

Will post girl's chart also, couldn't locate it today.

 

regards,

Utkal.

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Dear Utkal,are you sure about pisces lagna?I am getting 0.21.27 pisces.Hence the doubt.Love and regards,gopi. , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> > Group,> > Find guy's chart : 29 - 03 - 1977, 05 : 35 am, Vidisha, MP, India.> > Will post girl's chart also, couldn't locate it today.> > regards,> Utkal.>

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Dear Utkal ji, //> Luckily I have something in my kitty to share with all, I have got

two charts in which Pisces lagna rising, In both the charts - Sun,

Merc, Venu moved to lagna, their birth time is slightly different and

they are born in two different states, one is a girl born in New Delhi

and the other is a guy born in Bhopal in MP. The Guy

suffers a serious disorder of brain, which is a side effect of another

disease and the Girl suffers epilepsy, unpredictable epilptical attack

is ruining her carreer.// * With Chandrahrai Ayanamsa, I am getting Aquarius Lagna, with Mars in Lagna and Lagna lord Saturn going to 6th house. * The dasa during birth was Jupiter-Ketu-Sun. Ketu placed in Aries (signifying head) owned by Mars placed in Lagna (signifying head), and Paryantara is of Sun (indicating head) with a near debilitated (in scorpio) navamsaka. * In the beginning for almost 9 years it was Jupiter dasa. But then it was of lagna lord Saturn placed in 6th house (disease) for 19 years (till 28 years of age), and then of Mercury the 5th lord placed in debilitation in Pisces for 17 years (till 45 years of age) May be it is the Aquarius Lagna that explains "the brain disorder than is a side effect or another disease" - I believe. Note: I will wait to see the girl's chart as well. It would be interesting to know whether that too is really of Pisces Lagna or Aquarius lagna. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> > Group,> > Find guy's chart : 29 - 03 - 1977, 05 : 35 am, Vidisha, MP, India.> > Will post girl's chart also, couldn't locate it today.> > regards,> Utkal.>

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Dear Srinadh Ji,

 

Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and approved by Govt

of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and accurately explains each and every

thing in straightforward manner.

 

Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value, any body

with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of his name, either

every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that predictive astrology

accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept that.

 

Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

> //> Luckily I have something in my kitty to share with all, I have got

> two charts in which Pisces lagna rising, In both the charts - Sun, Merc,

> Venu moved to lagna, their birth time is slightly different and they are

> born in two different states, one is a girl born in New Delhi and the

> other is a guy born in Bhopal in MP. The Guy suffers a serious disorder

> of brain, which is a side effect of another disease and the Girl suffers

> epilepsy, unpredictable epilptical attack is ruining her carreer.//

> * With Chandrahrai Ayanamsa, I am getting Aquarius Lagna, with Mars in

> Lagna and Lagna lord Saturn going to 6th house.

> * The dasa during birth was Jupiter-Ketu-Sun. Ketu placed in Aries

> (signifying head) owned by Mars placed in Lagna (signifying head), and

> Paryantara is of Sun (indicating head) with a near debilitated (in

> scorpio) navamsaka.

> * In the beginning for almost 9 years it was Jupiter dasa. But then it

> was of lagna lord Saturn placed in 6th house (disease) for 19 years

> (till 28 years of age), and then of Mercury the 5th lord placed in

> debilitation in Pisces for 17 years (till 45 years of age)

> May be it is the Aquarius Lagna that explains " the brain disorder than

> is a side effect or another disease " - I believe.

> Note: I will wait to see the girl's chart as well. It would be

> interesting to know whether that too is really of Pisces Lagna or

> Aquarius lagna.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Group,

> >

> > Find guy's chart : 29 - 03 - 1977, 05 : 35 am, Vidisha, MP, India.

> >

> > Will post girl's chart also, couldn't locate it today.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

>

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Dear Utkal ji,

You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.

But for me, I always prefer the traditional, and so Surya Siddhanta

based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by Chandra

hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option only

i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition; but based on

other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also for some more

days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I don't have much

against 365.2425 days solar year as well)

//>

Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value, any body

with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of his name,

either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that predictive

astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept that.//

This is total lack of understanding about the work and research of

chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name at all. The

ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the Ancient Surya

Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical completeness, and a sound

mathamatical base is the very reason for me too prefering the same.

If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari, then

refer to the files section: Chandra%20Hari/

If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical

foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of the same

based on one of his books: Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc

 

So at the end, the point is - "You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa

(simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only - anything will do,

especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the traditional

Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and mathematical foundation - and

there is only one candidate for the same - i.e. Surya siddhantic True Ayanamsa

- now a days also known by the name Chandrahari Ayanamsa). Hope I have

clarified my stand point.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> Dear Srinadh Ji,> > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and accurately explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.> > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept that.> > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.> > regards,> Utkal.

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Dear Srinadh Ji,

 

Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas, with

universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna rules his body

constitution.

 

This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he has been

a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna is making.

 

Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains, with

Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.

 

A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's

characterstic.

 

Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's upto

astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect ayanamsha, what they

select will decide how's correct their predictions.

 

We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in calculations,

therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check astro planetary

positions with that of nautical positions or observatories positions.

 

I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and other bodies

have already decided this matter and we are getting almost correct predictions

by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

> You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.

> But for me, I always prefer the traditional, and so Surya Siddhanta

> based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by Chandra

> hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option

> only i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition; but

> based on other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also for

> some more days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I don't

> have much against 365.2425 days solar year as well)

> //> Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta

> value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an

> ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is,

> does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does

> grahs accept that.//

> This is total lack of understanding about the work and research of

> chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name at

> all. The ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the

> Ancient Surya Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical

> completeness, and a sound mathamatical base is the very reason for me

> too prefering the same.

> If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari, then

> refer to the files section:

> Chandra%20H\

> ari/ <../../../..Chandra%20Hari/>

> If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical

> foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of the

> same based on one of his books:

> Sreenadh%20\

> OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc

> <../../../..Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc>

> So at the end, the point is - " You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa

> (simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only - anything

> will do, especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the

> traditional Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and mathematical

> foundation - and there is only one candidate for the same - i.e. Surya

> siddhantic True Ayanamsa - now a days also known by the name Chandrahari

> Ayanamsa). Hope I have clarified my stand point.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srinadh Ji,

> >

> > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and

> approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and accurately

> explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.

> >

> > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value,

> any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of

> his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that

> predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept

> that.

> >

> > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

>

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Dear Utkal ji,On a cursory look at the chart 1st thing i noticed is lagna is in a papakartari yoga of a high calibre.L/L jup in a fixed sign is also aspd by a malefic from 12th(though not so malefic for this lagna.)Mo in the nakshatra of L/L in 12th from moon again.5th house of intelect with retro sat as 11th/12th lord.5th house from mo is with vargottam Rahu.L/L jup went into the amsa of sat and also with varg mars.Looks like there are very many malefic influences in the chart.Though as yousaid ven is exal and vargottam he is 3/8th lord for the lagna and also with vargottam maraka 7th lord debilitated at the same time and also with 6th L of disease.Untainted and vargottama moon as 5thL in 4th is definitely a positive force by itself since moon should be aflicted for any mental disease as we know.The present period mer-ven-sat speaks for itself.Love and regards,gopi. , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> Dear Srinadh Ji,> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas, with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna rules his body constitution.> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna is making.> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains, with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's characterstic.> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or observatories positions.> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.> > regards,> Utkal. > > , "sreesog" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Utkal ji,> > You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.> > But for me, I always prefer the traditional, and so Surya Siddhanta> > based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by Chandra> > hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option> > only i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition; but> > based on other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also for> > some more days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I don't> > have much against 365.2425 days solar year as well)> > //> Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta> > value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an> > ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is,> > does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does> > grahs accept that.//> > This is total lack of understanding about the work and research of> > chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name at> > all. The ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the> > Ancient Surya Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical> > completeness, and a sound mathamatical base is the very reason for me> > too prefering the same.> > If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari, then> > refer to the files section:> > Chandra%20H\> > ari/ <../../../..Chandra%20Hari/>> > If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical> > foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of the> > same based on one of his books:> > Sreenadh%20\> > OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc > > <../../../..Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc>> > So at the end, the point is - "You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa> > (simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only - anything> > will do, especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the> > traditional Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and mathematical> > foundation - and there is only one candidate for the same - i.e. Surya> > siddhantic True Ayanamsa - now a days also known by the name Chandrahari> > Ayanamsa). Hope I have clarified my stand point.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > > > , "utkal.panigrahi"> > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Srinadh Ji,> > >> > > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and> > approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and accurately> > explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.> > >> > > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value,> > any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of> > his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that> > predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept> > that.> > >> > > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal.> >>

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Dear Gopal Krishna Ji,

 

It's a nice analysis of a significant horoscope, 6'th lord Sun has brought a

shining persona as well an ailment to this native, the ailment is in nerves

(Merc) and is turning to become chronic by association of Venus, Venus and

Mercury had given him sweet voice and made him skilled too.

 

Moon is though not afflicted but placed in gemini, such a connection shows

person lacks control over his emotion driven ill-logics.

 

Dasa holds some responsibility, true !

 

I believe, it might be curable at a proper time, will post other horoscope also.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

 

 

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

> On a cursory look at the chart 1st thing i noticed is lagna is in a

> papakartari yoga of a high

>

> calibre.L/L jup in a fixed sign is also aspd by a malefic from

> 12th(though not so malefic for this

>

> lagna.)Mo in the nakshatra of L/L in 12th from moon again.5th house of

> intelect with retro sat as

>

> 11th/12th lord.5th house from mo is with vargottam Rahu.L/L jup went

> into the amsa of sat and

>

> also with varg mars.Looks like there are very many malefic influences in

> the chart.Though as

>

> yousaid ven is exal and vargottam he is 3/8th lord for the lagna and

> also with vargottam maraka

>

> 7th lord debilitated at the same time and also with 6th L of

> disease.Untainted and vargottama moon as 5thL in 4th is definitely a

> positive force by itself since moon should be aflicted for any mental

> disease as we know.

> The present period mer-ven-sat speaks for itself.

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srinadh Ji,

> >

> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas,

> with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna

> rules his body constitution.

> >

> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he

> has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna

> is making.

> >

> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains,

> with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.

> >

> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's

> characterstic.

> >

> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's

> upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect

> ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.

> >

> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in

> calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check

> astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or

> observatories positions.

> >

> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and

> other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost

> correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , " sreesog " sreesog@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Utkal ji,

> > > You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.

> > > But for me, I always prefer the traditional, and so Surya

> Siddhanta

> > > based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by

> Chandra

> > > hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option

> > > only i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition;

> but

> > > based on other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also

> for

> > > some more days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I

> don't

> > > have much against 365.2425 days solar year as well)

> > > //> Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta

> > > value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an

> > > ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions

> is,

> > > does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does

> > > grahs accept that.//

> > > This is total lack of understanding about the work and research

> of

> > > chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name

> at

> > > all. The ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the

> > > Ancient Surya Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical

> > > completeness, and a sound mathamatical base is the very reason for

> me

> > > too prefering the same.

> > > If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari,

> then

> > > refer to the files section:

> > >

> Chandra%20H\

> \

> > > ari/ <../../../..Chandra%20Hari/>

> > > If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical

> > > foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of

> the

> > > same based on one of his books:

> > >

> Sreenadh%20\

> \

> > > OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc

> > > <../../../..Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc>

> > > So at the end, the point is - " You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa

> > > (simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only -

> anything

> > > will do, especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the

> > > traditional Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and

> mathematical

> > > foundation - and there is only one candidate for the same - i.e.

> Surya

> > > siddhantic True Ayanamsa - now a days also known by the name

> Chandrahari

> > > Ayanamsa). Hope I have clarified my stand point.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Srinadh Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and

> > > approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and

> accurately

> > > explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta

> value,

> > > any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an

> ayanamsa of

> > > his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does

> that

> > > predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs

> accept

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Utkal.

> > >

> >

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Dear Utkal ji, I will try to answer this question in detail taking time - possibly tomorrow.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> Dear Srinadh Ji,> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas, with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna rules his body constitution.> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna is making.> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains, with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's characterstic.> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or observatories positions.> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.> > regards,> Utkal. > > , "sreesog" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Utkal ji,> > You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.> > But for me, I always prefer the traditional, and so Surya Siddhanta> > based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by Chandra> > hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option> > only i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition; but> > based on other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also for> > some more days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I don't> > have much against 365.2425 days solar year as well)> > //> Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta> > value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an> > ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is,> > does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does> > grahs accept that.//> > This is total lack of understanding about the work and research of> > chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name at> > all. The ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the> > Ancient Surya Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical> > completeness, and a sound mathamatical base is the very reason for me> > too prefering the same.> > If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari, then> > refer to the files section:> > Chandra%20H\> > ari/ <../../../..Chandra%20Hari/>> > If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical> > foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of the> > same based on one of his books:> > Sreenadh%20\> > OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc > > <../../../..Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc>> > So at the end, the point is - "You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa> > (simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only - anything> > will do, especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the> > traditional Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and mathematical> > foundation - and there is only one candidate for the same - i.e. Surya> > siddhantic True Ayanamsa - now a days also known by the name Chandrahari> > Ayanamsa). Hope I have clarified my stand point.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > > > , "utkal.panigrahi"> > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Srinadh Ji,> > >> > > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and> > approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and accurately> > explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.> > >> > > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value,> > any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of> > his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that> > predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept> > that.> > >> > > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal.> >>

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.. Dear Sreenadh ji,

I Agree with Utkal ji that the accepted ayanamsha is Lahri's Chitra paksha Ayanamsha and most of the result based on Lahari's ayanmsha are correct and most of the astrologer are using the same. If you say that Chandrahari ayamsha is nothing but Surya Siddhanta ayanamsha then what is the necessity to call it Chandrahari ayanamsha, you can call it Surya Siddhanta Ayanmasha which will be more acceptable to most of the astrologers.

 

If you say that by using Chandrahari ayanamsha you arrived at Kumbha lagna/Aquarius, and lagna lord Saturn is in 6th, You can use Sripati chalit chart which is Pisces lagba and Saturn is in 6th and Lagna lord Jupiter is in 3rd aspectd by Mars from the 12th, Sun in lagna, Mercury, Venus retro with Ketu in 2nd, Moon in 5th, Saturn retro in 6th, Rahu in 8th, Mars in 12th.

Sun in lagna and hemmed in between Mars and Ketu is not auspicious. Venus being retro comes to lagna, Mecury is combust and Maraka and badhaka with Ketu. Moon in 5th in own sign and Saturn retro in 6th makes Moon and Saturn conjoining. Saturn is aspected by Mars from 12th So Lagna, lagna lord, 5th house 5th lord and 2nd house and 2nd lard are afflicted giving mental disorder.

More over if you like, can use navamsha chart. The position of the lagna lord Jupiter is in 8th, and navamsha lagna lord is in 12th, there is no benefic planet in kendra so the native suffers from mental disorder is correct.

These or my observations.

Regards--- On Sun, 10/11/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:

sreesog <sreesog Re: Pisces Lagna Chart - Mental Disorder Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 11:40 PM

 

Dear Utkal ji, I will try to answer this question in detail taking time - possibly tomorrow.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> Dear Srinadh Ji,> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas, with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna rules his body constitution.> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna is making.> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains, with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's characterstic.> >

Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or observatories positions.> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.> > regards,> Utkal. > > , "sreesog" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Utkal ji,> > You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.> > But for me, I always prefer the traditional,

and so Surya Siddhanta> > based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by Chandra> > hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option> > only i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition; but> > based on other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also for> > some more days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I don't> > have much against 365.2425 days solar year as well)> > //> Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta> > value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an> > ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is,> > does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does> > grahs accept that.//> > This is total lack of understanding about the work and research of> >

chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name at> > all. The ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the> > Ancient Surya Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical> > completeness, and a sound mathamatical base is the very reason for me> > too prefering the same.> > If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari, then> > refer to the files section:> > Chandra%20H\> > ari/ <../../../..Chandra%20Hari/>> > If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical> > foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of the> > same based on one of his books:> > Sreenadh%20\> > OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc > >

<../../../..Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc>> > So at the end, the point is - "You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa> > (simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only - anything> > will do, especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the> > traditional Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and mathematical> > foundation - and there is only one candidate for the same - i.e. Surya> > siddhantic True Ayanamsa - now a days also known by the name Chandrahari> > Ayanamsa). Hope I have clarified my stand point.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > > > , "utkal.panigrahi"> > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Srinadh Ji,> > >> > > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is

undisputed and> > approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and accurately> > explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.> > >> > > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta value,> > any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an ayanamsa of> > his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does that> > predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs accept> > that.> > >> > > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal.> >>

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Dear Utkal ji,Thanks and awaiting for the other chart....Love and regards,gopi. , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> Dear Gopal Krishna Ji,> > It's a nice analysis of a significant horoscope, 6'th lord Sun has brought a shining persona as well an ailment to this native, the ailment is in nerves (Merc) and is turning to become chronic by association of Venus, Venus and Mercury had given him sweet voice and made him skilled too.> > Moon is though not afflicted but placed in gemini, such a connection shows person lacks control over his emotion driven ill-logics.> > Dasa holds some responsibility, true !> > I believe, it might be curable at a proper time, will post other horoscope also.> > regards,> Utkal.> > > > , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Utkal ji,> > On a cursory look at the chart 1st thing i noticed is lagna is in a> > papakartari yoga of a high> > > > calibre.L/L jup in a fixed sign is also aspd by a malefic from> > 12th(though not so malefic for this> > > > lagna.)Mo in the nakshatra of L/L in 12th from moon again.5th house of> > intelect with retro sat as> > > > 11th/12th lord.5th house from mo is with vargottam Rahu.L/L jup went> > into the amsa of sat and> > > > also with varg mars.Looks like there are very many malefic influences in> > the chart.Though as> > > > yousaid ven is exal and vargottam he is 3/8th lord for the lagna and> > also with vargottam maraka> > > > 7th lord debilitated at the same time and also with 6th L of> > disease.Untainted and vargottama moon as 5thL in 4th is definitely a> > positive force by itself since moon should be aflicted for any mental> > disease as we know.> > The present period mer-ven-sat speaks for itself.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > > > , "utkal.panigrahi"> > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Srinadh Ji,> > >> > > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas,> > with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna> > rules his body constitution.> > >> > > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he> > has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna> > is making.> > >> > > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains,> > with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> > >> > > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's> > characterstic.> > >> > > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's> > upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect> > ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> > >> > > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in> > calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check> > astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or> > observatories positions.> > >> > > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and> > other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost> > correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal.> > >> > > , "sreesog" sreesog@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Utkal ji,> > > > You can use any Ayanamsa you like - for example Lahari Ayanamsa.> > > > But for me, I always prefer the traditional, and so Surya> > Siddhanta> > > > based Ayanamsa - i.e. Surya siddhantic ayanamsa as exposed by> > Chandra> > > > hari. Similarly regarding year length also I have mainly one option> > > > only i.e. 360 deg solar year based on Surya siddhantic exposition;> > but> > > > based on other texts I may experiment with 360 day savana year also> > for> > > > some more days. (Since almost in tune with 360 deg solar year, I> > don't> > > > have much against 365.2425 days solar year as well)> > > > //> Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta> > > > value, any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an> > > > ayanamsa of his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions> > is,> > > > does that predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does> > > > grahs accept that.//> > > > This is total lack of understanding about the work and research> > of> > > > chandra hari. In truth he DID NOT created any ayanamsa in his name> > at> > > > all. The ayanamsa called by his name now a days is nothing but the> > > > Ancient Surya Siddantic Ayanamsa. This very foundation and logical> > > > completeness, and a sound mathamatical base is the very reason for> > me> > > > too prefering the same.> > > > If you are interested to know about the works of chandrahari,> > then> > > > refer to the files section:> > > >> > Chandra%20H\> > \> > > > ari/ <../../../..Chandra%20Hari/>> > > > If you are interested to know about the logic and mathematical> > > > foundation behind his Ayanasma alone, then refer to my review of> > the> > > > same based on one of his books:> > > >> > Sreenadh%20\> > \> > > > OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc> > > > <../../../..Sreenadh%20OG/True%20Ayanamsa.doc>> > > > So at the end, the point is - "You can prefer to use any Ayanamsa> > > > (simply as per your opinion 'Aynamsa is a delta value' only -> > anything> > > > will do, especially if govt. approved it!), but I prefer to use the> > > > traditional Suryasiddhantic one with a clear logical and> > mathematical> > > > foundation - and there is only one candidate for the same - i.e.> > Surya> > > > siddhantic True Ayanamsa - now a days also known by the name> > Chandrahari> > > > Ayanamsa). Hope I have clarified my stand point.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > >> > > > , "utkal.panigrahi"> > > > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Srinadh Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Pls use Lahri's Chira Pakscha ayanamsa, which is undisputed and> > > > approved by Govt of India. With Vimshottary, It clearly and> > accurately> > > > explains each and every thing in straightforward manner.> > > > >> > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsa is debatable, in fact, Aynamsa is a delta> > value,> > > > any body with some knowledge of arithmatics, can discover an> > ayanamsa of> > > > his name, either every hour or every day, but, questions is, does> > that> > > > predictive astrology accepts, does life accept that, does grahs> > accept> > > > that.> > > > >> > > > > Pisces lagna is of decimal points, there is no doubt about it.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > > Utkal.> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Utkal ji, //with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.// It is no-ware said that all the individuals born of 5-10 feet to 6 feet! Height of an individual is something that is very much depended on Geographical location (Nativity) and Hereditary (Genetics). Just based on Lagna (sign of birth) alone you CAN NOT predict some one's height! Ofcourse special combinations for a dwarf birth could be present in a horoscope, but that is an entirely different matter (there too something relative). Let us check it - * With Aquarius Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Gemini, Moon in Gemini, Moon Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]* With Pisces Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Cancer, Moon in Gemini, Moon

Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]* Is it Venus in 2nd house that gives sweet voice or Venus in Lagna? * Is it a dire malefic Mars in Lagna that gives Brain related problem or Sun along with Venus and Mercury? I didn't see that Girl's horoscope coming up in this thread later us well. Utkal ji can you provide that as well. Shall we have a discussion on this chart?Love and regards,Sreenadh , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> Dear Srinadh Ji,> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas, with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna rules his body constitution.> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna is making.> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains, with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's characterstic.> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or observatories positions.> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.> > regards,> Utkal.

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Dear Srinadh Ji,

 

1. Why a question begins with All - " It is no-ware said that all the individuals

born of 5-10 feet to 6 feet " ,

 

It's not that what I said, No way, All is mostly misused in group discussions

and is misleading, I said that with Kumbha Lagna, guy should be tall, nearly

5.10 to 6.0 feet, they are tall, A basic characteristic (Amitabh), offcource, I

said it in Indian terms, Kumbha lagna guys are taller and pisces are of average

height, He is of average height only.

 

2. You are wrong about Moon and It's sign Karka , Karka gives medium to somewhat

more than medium height(Nehru), but guy is of medium height only, 5.6 " , No

confusion at all, whereas, as per your logic, he should be taller then medium as

his lagna is of karka navamsha.

 

3. Mars if placed in Kumbha lagna, will make a person hard worker, it's 3rd and

10'th lord, will not give a chronic ailment.

 

Whereas, for meena lagna, 6'th (disease) lord Sun(Head) and 8'th (chronic) lord

are conjoining merc (nerve) in lagna, 6'th lord is sun, a undisputed combination

for ailment related to brain and it's repeated in another chart of meena lagna,

yesterday, I got one more meena lagna chart of a girl, herself is doctor, but

she is having rounds of fits, she is born in a differrent year, will give this

chart also, and if you need, i can arrange a meeting with her.

 

4. Another characteristic of Meena people is they get oval shaped face, they are

chubby, Kumbha get's longer face with no additional flesh to make them chubby,

Merc and Venus supports medium heights, So, he was.

 

Venus in lagna gives sweet voice and charming personality both, he had it, yes

agreed that venus in 2nd will also make voice sweet, but that will make him very

rich, whereas he belongs to a medium class family.

 

You have not touched an exclusive characteristc of Meena Lagna, that is gaps in

teeth.

 

He is Meena Lagna.

 

Dear Srinadh, Infact, this is truth beyond scope for discussion, Laagna

characteristcs are so clear in one's personality, with some practice we can

identify, who is of what lagna, If a lagna changes with ayanamsa change, you can

judge truth of ayanamsa in real life, it's a practical matter.

 

 

Utkal.

 

 

 

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

> //with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6

> feet.//

> It is no-ware said that all the individuals born of 5-10 feet to 6

> feet! Height of an individual is something that is very much depended on

> Geographical location (Nativity) and Hereditary (Genetics). Just based

> on Lagna (sign of birth) alone you CAN NOT predict some one's height!

> Ofcourse special combinations for a dwarf birth could be present in a

> horoscope, but that is an entirely different matter (there too something

> relative).

> Let us check it -

>

> * With Aquarius Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Gemini, Moon in Gemini, Moon

> Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]

>

> * With Pisces Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Cancer, Moon in Gemini, Moon

> Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]

>

> * Is it Venus in 2nd house that gives sweet voice or Venus in Lagna?

> * Is it a dire malefic Mars in Lagna that gives Brain related problem or

> Sun along with Venus and Mercury?

>

> I didn't see that Girl's horoscope coming up in this thread later us

> well. Utkal ji can you provide that as well. Shall we have a

> discussion on this chart?

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srinadh Ji,

> >

> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas,

> with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna

> rules his body constitution.

> >

> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he

> has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna

> is making.

> >

> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains,

> with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.

> >

> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's

> characterstic.

> >

> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's

> upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect

> ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.

> >

> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in

> calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check

> astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or

> observatories positions.

> >

> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and

> other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost

> correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

>

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Respected Utkalji,

In my view it is difficult to say that a person born in kumbha lagna is of 5-10 feet to 6feet tall i know many aquarious lagna born persons with average height,again one cannot say that he will have long face .in the same manner venus in lagna does not guarrantee of good looks.I know many persons of below average look,although their venus is in their lagna.

i think for physical stature,beauty one must see the placement of LL in navamsha along with moon navamsha lord.they may help us to reach some conclusion,although the result may vary many times.

Regards.

Vandana Mishra.--- On Wed, 10/14/09, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi wrote:

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Re: Pisces Lagna Chart - Mental Disorder Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 7:24 PM

Dear Srinadh Ji,1. Why a question begins with All - "It is no-ware said that all the individuals born of 5-10 feet to 6 feet", It's not that what I said, No way, All is mostly misused in group discussions and is misleading, I said that with Kumbha Lagna, guy should be tall, nearly 5.10 to 6.0 feet, they are tall, A basic characteristic (Amitabh), offcource, I said it in Indian terms, Kumbha lagna guys are taller and pisces are of average height, He is of average height only.2. You are wrong about Moon and It's sign Karka , Karka gives medium to somewhat more than medium height(Nehru) , but guy is of medium height only, 5.6" , No confusion at all, whereas, as per your logic, he should be taller then medium as his lagna is of karka navamsha.3. Mars if placed in Kumbha lagna, will make a person hard worker, it's 3rd and 10'th lord, will not give a chronic ailment.Whereas, for meena lagna, 6'th (disease) lord

Sun(Head) and 8'th (chronic) lord are conjoining merc (nerve) in lagna, 6'th lord is sun, a undisputed combination for ailment related to brain and it's repeated in another chart of meena lagna, yesterday, I got one more meena lagna chart of a girl, herself is doctor, but she is having rounds of fits, she is born in a differrent year, will give this chart also, and if you need, i can arrange a meeting with her.4. Another characteristic of Meena people is they get oval shaped face, they are chubby, Kumbha get's longer face with no additional flesh to make them chubby, Merc and Venus supports medium heights, So, he was.Venus in lagna gives sweet voice and charming personality both, he had it, yes agreed that venus in 2nd will also make voice sweet, but that will make him very rich, whereas he belongs to a medium class family.You have not touched an exclusive characteristc of Meena Lagna, that is gaps in teeth.He is Meena

Lagna.Dear Srinadh, Infact, this is truth beyond scope for discussion, Laagna characteristcs are so clear in one's personality, with some practice we can identify, who is of what lagna, If a lagna changes with ayanamsa change, you can judge truth of ayanamsa in real life, it's a practical matter.Utkal.ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" <sreesog > wrote:>> Dear Utkal ji,> //with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6> feet.//> It is no-ware said that all the individuals born of 5-10 feet to 6> feet! Height of an individual is something that is very much depended on> Geographical location (Nativity) and Hereditary (Genetics). Just

based> on Lagna (sign of birth) alone you CAN NOT predict some one's height!> Ofcourse special combinations for a dwarf birth could be present in a> horoscope, but that is an entirely different matter (there too something> relative).> Let us check it -> > * With Aquarius Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Gemini, Moon in Gemini, Moon> Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]> > * With Pisces Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Cancer, Moon in Gemini, Moon> Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]> > * Is it Venus in 2nd house that gives sweet voice or Venus in Lagna?> * Is it a dire malefic Mars in Lagna that gives Brain related problem or> Sun along with Venus and Mercury?> > I didn't see that Girl's horoscope coming up in this thread later us> well. Utkal ji can you provide that as

well. Shall we have a> discussion on this chart?> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "utkal.panigrahi"> <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Srinadh Ji,> >> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas,> with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna> rules his body constitution.> >> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he> has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna> is making.> >> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna

explains,> with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> >> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's> characterstic.> >> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's> upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect> ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> >> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in> calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check> astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or> observatories positions.> >> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and> other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost> correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri

Ayanamsa.> >> > regards,> > Utkal.>

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Dear Utkal-ji,

 

You gave an one-liner,

 

// an exclusive characteristc of Meena Lagna, that is gaps in teeth.//

 

Could you kindly give the forum such exclusive signs for different lagna-s.

That will be very useful learning for us.

 

'Hope you would not mind our tendency to learn from Guru-s, bypassing

the usual way of learning from books.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

utkal.panigrahi [utkal.panigrahi] Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:55 AM Subject: Re: Pisces Lagna Chart - Mental Disorder

Dear Srinadh Ji,1. Why a question begins with All - "It is no-ware said that all the individuals born of 5-10 feet to 6 feet", It's not that what I said, No way, All is mostly misused in group discussions and is misleading, I said that with Kumbha Lagna, guy should be tall, nearly 5.10 to 6.0 feet, they are tall, A basic characteristic (Amitabh), offcource, I said it in Indian terms, Kumbha lagna guys are taller and pisces are of average height, He is of average height only.2. You are wrong about Moon and It's sign Karka , Karka gives medium to somewhat more than medium height(Nehru), but guy is of medium height only, 5.6" , No confusion at all, whereas, as per your logic, he should be taller then medium as his lagna is of karka navamsha.3. Mars if placed in Kumbha lagna, will make a person hard worker, it's 3rd and 10'th lord, will not give a chronic ailment.Whereas, for meena lagna, 6'th (disease) lord Sun(Head) and 8'th (chronic) lord are conjoining merc (nerve) in lagna, 6'th lord is sun, a undisputed combination for ailment related to brain and it's repeated in another chart of meena lagna, yesterday, I got one more meena lagna chart of a girl, herself is doctor, but she is having rounds of fits, she is born in a differrent year, will give this chart also, and if you need, i can arrange a meeting with her.4. Another characteristic of Meena people is they get oval shaped face, they are chubby, Kumbha get's longer face with no additional flesh to make them chubby, Merc and Venus supports medium heights, So, he was.Venus in lagna gives sweet voice and charming personality both, he had it, yes agreed that venus in 2nd will also make voice sweet, but that will make him very rich, whereas he belongs to a medium class family.You have not touched an exclusive characteristc of Meena Lagna, that is gaps in teeth.He is Meena Lagna.Dear Srinadh, Infact, this is truth beyond scope for discussion, Laagna characteristcs are so clear in one's personality, with some practice we can identify, who is of what lagna, If a lagna changes with ayanamsa change, you can judge truth of ayanamsa in real life, it's a practical matter.Utkal. , "sreesog" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Utkal ji,> //with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6> feet.//> It is no-ware said that all the individuals born of 5-10 feet to 6> feet! Height of an individual is something that is very much depended on> Geographical location (Nativity) and Hereditary (Genetics). Just based> on Lagna (sign of birth) alone you CAN NOT predict some one's height!> Ofcourse special combinations for a dwarf birth could be present in a> horoscope, but that is an entirely different matter (there too something> relative).> Let us check it -> > * With Aquarius Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Gemini, Moon in Gemini, Moon> Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]> > * With Pisces Lagna, Lagna Navamsaka in Cancer, Moon in Gemini, Moon> Navamsaka in Taurus - how his body should be? [As per standard dictums]> > * Is it Venus in 2nd house that gives sweet voice or Venus in Lagna?> * Is it a dire malefic Mars in Lagna that gives Brain related problem or> Sun along with Venus and Mercury?> > I didn't see that Girl's horoscope coming up in this thread later us> well. Utkal ji can you provide that as well. Shall we have a> discussion on this chart?> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "utkal.panigrahi"> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Srinadh Ji,> >> > Firstly, with Chandra Hari ayanamsa, you get Kumbha lagna, Whereas,> with universal Lahiri ayanamsa, The Guy is of Meena Lagna, Meena lagna> rules his body constitution.> >> > This guy is of medium stature, 5.6 feet high with gaps in teeth and he> has been a very good singer of T Searies, which exalted Venus in lagna> is making.> >> > Above are facts of his life that only and trully Meena Lagna explains,> with Kumbha Lagna he should have a height around 5.10 feet to 6 feet.> >> > A Lagna is reflected in native's body constitution and certain limb's> characterstic.> >> > Native's body can not change with change of ayanamsha or lagna,it's> upto astrologers whether they want to use correct or incorrect> ayanamsha, what they select will decide how's correct their predictions.> >> > We are aware that Surya Siddhanta had a precision error in> calculations, therefore, it was suggested by researchers to cross check> astro planetary positions with that of nautical positions or> observatories positions.> >> > I have nothing mine to offer in this regards, as Govt of India and> other bodies have already decided this matter and we are getting almost> correct predictions by able astrologers using Lahiri Ayanamsa.> >> > regards,> > Utkal.>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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