Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Dear Suprakash ji, I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for. For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters. For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji. In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above. Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place. Regards, Andrew Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I wantclarification- when you say "when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with Sun".. 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also?If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases..1. They are in different bhava but conjoined.2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined.Another question..Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage.Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn?RegardsSuprakash OnBehalf Of tw853Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: About PoonarphooDear Suprakash,KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in one sign...)KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran)Regards,tw , "feluda4u" <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently I> came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of> Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or Saturn. > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP> articles. Any idea?> > Regards> > Suprakash> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Many Thanks to Twji, Kanakji and Andrewji for sharing your knowledge to all beginners in in this forum. One study is available by Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy in the Files section which is a bit confusing to me and at first hand it appears that there is no significant effect of poonarphoo . Your views please. Regards’ Suprakash On Behalf Of andrew dutta Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:49 AM About Poonarphoo: Sorry to barge in Dear Suprakash ji, I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for. For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters. For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji. In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above. Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place. Regards, Andrew Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I want clarification- when you say " when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with Sun " .. 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also? If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases.. 1. They are in different bhava but conjoined. 2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined. Another question.. Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage. Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn? Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of tw853 Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM Re: About Poonarphoo Dear Suprakash, KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in one sign...) KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran) Regards, tw , " feluda4u " <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently I > came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of > Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or Saturn. > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP > articles. Any idea? > > Regards > > Suprakash > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hare Krsna Namaste to you all. The interim theme of poonarphoo is that effect which is caused by the lateral motion of Saturn, a slow moving planet, with the fastest moving planet, the Moon. The time limit for their rapt conjunction is very small as moon transits the star very fast on which Saturn is posited. This indirectly gives the idea that it doesn't give the same bhava results though the moon is associated with sat in the same bhava but the poonarphoo has a direct display when only it is residing on the same star. There is no exact evidence of orbs. In other words I can say that the poonarphoo has its ill effect when the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star, with in one bhava only. If they are in 2 bhavas there is no poonarphoo, though they are with in the specified orbs. Observation is different from bookish knowledge, I feel. And Dear Andrew ji I lost your mobile number. Plz call me at 9989673159. i seek learned mrmbers opinion. With Regards Pavan Kumar , andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote: > > Dear Suprakash ji, > I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for. > > For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters. > > For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji. > In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above. > > Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place. > > Regards, > > Andrew > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I want > clarification- when you say " when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun " .. > 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also? > > If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases.. > 1. They are in different bhava but conjoined. > 2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined. > > Another question.. > > Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage. > Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn? > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > On > Behalf Of tw853 > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM > > Re: About Poonarphoo > > Dear Suprakash, > > KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by > Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in > one sign...) > > KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran) > > Regards, > tw > > , " feluda4u " <suprakash.ghosh@> > wrote: > > > > Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently > I > > came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of > > Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or > Saturn. > > > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP > > articles. Any idea? > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Dear Pavanji,Does this mean that if Satrun is in the star of moon or vice-versa, can it result in Punarphoo?V.Ramachandran.On 2/23/07, pavankumargvp <pavankumargvp wrote: Hare Krsna Namaste to you all. The interim theme of poonarphoo is that effect which is caused by the lateral motion of Saturn, a slow moving planet, with the fastest moving planet, the Moon. The time limit for their rapt conjunction is very small as moon transits the star very fast on which Saturn is posited. This indirectly gives the idea that it doesn't give the same bhava results though the moon is associated with sat in the same bhava but the poonarphoo has a direct display when only it is residing on the same star. There is no exact evidence of orbs. In other words I can say that the poonarphoo has its ill effect when the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star, with in one bhava only. If they are in 2 bhavas there is no poonarphoo, though they are with in the specified orbs. Observation is different from bookish knowledge, I feel. And Dear Andrew ji I lost your mobile number. Plz call me at 9989673159. i seek learned mrmbers opinion. With Regards Pavan Kumar , andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote: > > Dear Suprakash ji, > I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for. > > For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters. > > For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji. > In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above. > > Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place. > > Regards, > > Andrew > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I want > clarification- when you say " when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun " .. > 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also? > > If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases.. > 1. They are in different bhava but conjoined. > 2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined. > > Another question.. > > Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage. > Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn? > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > On > Behalf Of tw853 > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM > > Re: About Poonarphoo > > Dear Suprakash, > > KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by > Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in > one sign...) > > KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran) > > Regards, > tw > > , " feluda4u " <suprakash.ghosh@> > wrote: > > > > Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently > I > > came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of > > Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or > Saturn. > > > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP > > articles. Any idea? > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Dear suprakash ji, Study done by Ramgarajan is base in marriage only, and this study give more strength to look matter related to bhava which signifies by Moon and Sat. we have to leave this matter is individual on his own experience. regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Many Thanks to Twji, Kanakji and Andrewji for sharing your knowledge to all beginners in in this forum. One study is available by Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy in the Files section which is a bit confusing to me and at first hand it appears that there is no significant effect of poonarphoo . Your views please. Regards’ Suprakash On Behalf Of andrew duttaThursday, February 22, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: About Poonarphoo: Sorry to barge in Dear Suprakash ji, I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for. For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters. For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji. In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above. Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place. Regards, Andrew Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I wantclarification- when you say "when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with Sun".. 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also?If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases..1. They are in different bhava but conjoined.2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined.Another question..Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage.Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn?RegardsSuprakash OnBehalf Of tw853Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: About PoonarphooDear Suprakash,KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in one sign...)KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran)Regards,tw , "feluda4u" <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently I> came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of> Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or Saturn. > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP> articles. Any idea?> > Regards> > Suprakash> Links Prof. Andrew Dutta Faculty Member The ICFAI Business School, Aditya Court, 8-2-334, Road No. 5, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad 500034, India. Tel: 91-4023430415-19 Extn: 262 Fax: 91-4023430414 Cell: 0-0-98666 20483 It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hare Krsna. Namaste Padma ji. You did not get my point. Here is a neat delineation of the point, which differs from standard text books and based on my experience. (1) There is no question of orb in deciding poonarphoo. (2) That you see the dosha of poonarphoo when only the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star in a bhava. (3) For significators, aspects play a significant role. But in case of poonarphoo, as I observe, aspect play a minority role. (4) The intensity of poonarphoo depends upon the closure of Sat and Mon, if they are in one bhava. (5) Totally we can omit the orb theory, if Sat and Mon are in different bhavas. Hope strong critics argue so that we can refine the knowledge of astrology. With Thanks Pavan Kumar.Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote: Dear Pavanji,Does this mean that if Satrun is in the star of moon or vice-versa, can it result in Punarphoo?V.Ramachandran. On 2/23/07, pavankumargvp <pavankumargvp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hare Krsna Namaste to you all. The interim theme of poonarphoo is that effect which is caused by the lateral motion of Saturn, a slow moving planet, with the fastest moving planet, the Moon. The time limit for their rapt conjunction is very small as moon transits the star very fast on which Saturn is posited. This indirectly gives the idea that it doesn't give the same bhava results though the moon is associated with sat in the same bhava but the poonarphoo has a direct display when only it is residing on the same star.There is no exact evidence of orbs.In other words I can say that the poonarphoo has its ill effect when the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star, with in one bhava only. If they are in 2 bhavas there is no poonarphoo, though they are with in the specified orbs. Observation is different from bookish knowledge, I feel. And Dear Andrew ji I lost your mobile number. Plz call me at 9989673159.i seek learned mrmbers opinion.With RegardsPavan Kumar , andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for.> > For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters.> > For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji.> In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above.> > Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place.> > Regards,> > Andrew> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I want> clarification- when you say "when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun".. > 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also?> > If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases..> 1. They are in different bhava but conjoined.> 2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined.> > Another question..> > Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage.> Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On> Behalf Of tw853> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM> > Re: About Poonarphoo> > Dear Suprakash,> > KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by > Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in > one sign...)> > KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran)> > Regards,> tw> > , "feluda4u" <suprakash.ghosh@> > wrote:> >> > Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently > I> > came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of> > Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or > Saturn. > > > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP> > articles. Any idea?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 sairaman good evening alli do not think saturn can delay marriage by attrributing a yoga to it my mother havingt strong saturn in 7th house got married at 18 yearsone of my friends daghter had saturn in 7th in the modern days got married at 16 years i am having saturn in 5th exactly by degrs. i got ason on 10 month of of marriagenot one factor is responsible for a incident like delay etcaccording to texts Gajakesari Yoga happens to many people due to faast moving moon if the results are to happen most people will have good very good life as told i do not think that yoga is working well with all the peopleif somebody is very well off always yogas are attributed to him if known personmany ordinary people we give exemptions and interpratations only not results of texts Karaka bhavathipathi aspects occupant and so so many factors to be considered not a single yoga in isolation can work and give results as tolsd in texts accordingto my small experiencfeThankspavan kumar <pavankumargvp wrote: Hare Krsna. Namaste Padma ji. You did not get my point. Here is a neat delineation of the point, which differs from standard text books and based on my experience. (1) There is no question of orb in deciding poonarphoo. (2) That you see the dosha of poonarphoo when only the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star in a bhava. (3) For significators, aspects play a significant role. But in case of poonarphoo, as I observe, aspect play a minority role. (4) The intensity of poonarphoo depends upon the closure of Sat and Mon, if they are in one bhava. (5) Totally we can omit the orb theory, if Sat and Mon are in different bhavas. Hope strong critics argue so that we can refine the knowledge of astrology. With Thanks Pavan Kumar.Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran > wrote: Dear Pavanji,Does this mean that if Satrun is in the star of moon or vice-versa, can it result in Punarphoo?V.Ramachandran. On 2/23/07, pavankumargvp <pavankumargvp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hare Krsna Namaste to you all. The interim theme of poonarphoo is that effect which is caused by the lateral motion of Saturn, a slow moving planet, with the fastest moving planet, the Moon. The time limit for their rapt conjunction is very small as moon transits the star very fast on which Saturn is posited. This indirectly gives the idea that it doesn't give the same bhava results though the moon is associated with sat in the same bhava but the poonarphoo has a direct display when only it is residing on the same star.There is no exact evidence of orbs.In other words I can say that the poonarphoo has its ill effect when the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star, with in one bhava only. If they are in 2 bhavas there is no poonarphoo, though they are with in the specified orbs. Observation is different from bookish knowledge, I feel. And Dear Andrew ji I lost your mobile number. Plz call me at 9989673159.i seek learned mrmbers opinion.With RegardsPavan Kumar , andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for.> > For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters.> > For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji.> In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above.> > Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place.> > Regards,> > Andrew> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I want> clarification- when you say "when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun".. > 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also?> > If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases..> 1. They are in different bhava but conjoined.> 2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined.> > Another question..> > Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage.> Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On> Behalf Of tw853> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM> > Re: About Poonarphoo> > Dear Suprakash,> > KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by > Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in > one sign...)> > KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran)> > Regards,> tw> > , "feluda4u" <suprakash.ghosh@> > wrote:> >> > Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently > I> > came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of> > Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or > Saturn. > > > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP> > articles. Any idea?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Dear Sairam, Have you checked for cancellation of Punarphoo ? Do you the rules ?They have been given at this site many times... Simply having Sat in VII does no mean delay alone... Little knowledge is always dangerous...! L.Y.Rao. sairam nat <sairaman53 Sent: Thursday, 1 March, 2007 7:12:25 AMRe: Re: About Poonarphoo: Sorry to barge in sairaman good evening alli do not think saturn can delay marriage by attrributing a yoga to it my mother havingt strong saturn in 7th house got married at 18 yearsone of my friends daghter had saturn in 7th in the modern days got married at 16 years i am having saturn in 5th exactly by degrs. i got ason on 10 month of of marriagenot one factor is responsible for a incident like delay etcaccording to texts Gajakesari Yoga happens to many people due to faast moving moon if the results are to happen most people will have good very good life as told i do not think that yoga is working well with all the peopleif somebody is very well off always yogas are attributed to him if known personmany ordinary people we give exemptions and interpratations only not results of texts Karaka bhavathipathi aspects occupant and so so many factors to be considered not a single yoga in isolation can work and give results as tolsd in texts accordingto my small experiencfeThankspavan kumar <pavankumargvp@ .co. in> wrote: Hare Krsna. Namaste Padma ji. You did not get my point. Here is a neat delineation of the point, which differs from standard text books and based on my experience. (1) There is no question of orb in deciding poonarphoo. (2) That you see the dosha of poonarphoo when only the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star in a bhava. (3) For significators, aspects play a significant role. But in case of poonarphoo, as I observe, aspect play a minority role. (4) The intensity of poonarphoo depends upon the closure of Sat and Mon, if they are in one bhava. (5) Totally we can omit the orb theory, if Sat and Mon are in different bhavas. Hope strong critics argue so that we can refine the knowledge of astrology. With Thanks Pavan Kumar.Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Pavanji,Does this mean that if Satrun is in the star of moon or vice-versa, can it result in Punarphoo?V.Ramachandran. On 2/23/07, pavankumargvp <pavankumargvp@ .co. in> wrote: Hare Krsna Namaste to you all. The interim theme of poonarphoo is that effect which is caused by the lateral motion of Saturn, a slow moving planet, with the fastest moving planet, the Moon. The time limit for their rapt conjunction is very small as moon transits the star very fast on which Saturn is posited. This indirectly gives the idea that it doesn't give the same bhava results though the moon is associated with sat in the same bhava but the poonarphoo has a direct display when only it is residing on the same star.There is no exact evidence of orbs.In other words I can say that the poonarphoo has its ill effect when the Sat and Mon are transiting on the same star, with in one bhava only. If they are in 2 bhavas there is no poonarphoo, though they are with in the specified orbs. Observation is different from bookish knowledge, I feel. And Dear Andrew ji I lost your mobile number. Plz call me at 9989673159.i seek learned mrmbers opinion.With RegardsPavan Kumar@gro ups.com, andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> I liked your inquisitiveness, so I am replying without being asked for.> > For slow moving planets like Jup, Sat, Rahu and Ketu the planetary orb is usually taken to be - + 6 degree and for other slow moving planets it is + - 3.33 degrees to be precise. Saturn himslef has an orb of 9 degrees and Moon has an orb of 12 degrees. By simple law of mathematics, you will find Punarphoo results are happening when either of the planets happens to be within 8-9 degrees of each other. Please verify this if you have any chart where the Saturn and Moon is farther than 6 degrees but within 8 degrees, you will find that PP has given the result by delaying matters.> > For different bhavas or rashis, you need not worry. See whether they are within this stipulated orb. If Sat and Moon are within 8 deg to each other, PP will take place. In case they are in differernt rashis but same bhava, as far as KP is concerned, PP will shows effects of bhava significations of Saturn and Moon as rightly pointed out by respected Kanak ji.> In case they are in different bhavas, but still within 8 deg, the same rule will apply as above.> > Lastly punarphoo, as far as I have seen, is applicable to all aspects of life. That is, whatever, signification Sat and Moon shows, will get delayed unless cancellation of PP takes place.> > Regards,> > Andrew> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:> Thank you twji for your information. About one thing I want> clarification- when you say "when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun".. > 1.does conjoined mean +- 6 deg here also?> > If so, I wonder if the effect will be same in the following cases..> 1. They are in different bhava but conjoined.> 2. They are in different Rasi but conjoined.> > Another question..> > Generally Poonarphoo is applied for marriage.> Can it be applied to house matters signified by Moon and Saturn?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On> Behalf Of tw853> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:21 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: About Poonarphoo> > Dear Suprakash,> > KP Year Book 1996, page 71: Five coditions for cancellation of PP by > Dr. Kar (1. Sat or Moon or both if found in association with Sun in > one sign...)> > KP Year Book 2003, page 82: ... when Saturn or Moon is conjoined with > Sun or Sun is in Saturn star or in Moon star (Prof. K. Balachandran)> > Regards,> tw> > @gro ups.com, "feluda4u" <suprakash.ghosh@> > wrote:> >> > Pranam to all senior members.I am a beginner in KP system. Recently > I> > came to know from one astrologer regarding cancellation of> > Ponorphoo.It happens if Sun is within 23 deg of either Moon or > Saturn. > > > > I have not found any reference of this cancellation in any KP> > articles. Any idea?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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