Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and 7th. --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Dear Abhay, Normally,5th and 7th would be related.Please check more importantly Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu conjunctions/ aspects. Regards, Satish , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Dear Mr. Godse,No love marriage can take place if there is no connection between 5th and 7th.Any planet which is signifying 5th or 7th or 11th and commiting to 5, 7 or 11 can give love marriage if it is promise in the horoscope. suppose love marriage is promised but the native is devoid of dasa/Bhukti of a planet which has above said relation then also the native can not enjoy love marriage.for any particular hoproscope ypu may submit the birth data to check.Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Group Members In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the other rules to judge love marriage? Regards Abhay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Dear all,In nakshtra paddhati, we study combination of houses as everythinfg is stored in houses, planet have nothing to do with events, they are only souce. So don't get confused about Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu or any other planatery conjunctions/ aspects/combustion/retrogression.R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Abhay, Normally,5th and 7th would be related.Please check more importantly Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu conjunctions/ aspects. Regards, Satish , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Dear D. Bhaskar, Woul like to submit this horoscope for your kind analysis for marraige (love). Male: 18/06/1977 8=15am mumbai Regards , Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Godse, > No love marriage can take place if there is no connection between 5th and 7th. > Any planet which is signifying 5th or 7th or 11th and commiting to 5, 7 or 11 can give love marriage if it is promise in the horoscope. suppose love marriage is promised but the native is devoid of dasa/Bhukti of a planet which has above said relation then also the native can not enjoy love marriage. > for any particular hoproscope ypu may submit the birth data to check. > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > Regards > > Abhay > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi, Take this chart. In this chart 5 and 7th lord combined in Navamsa. Whether this guy will do love marriage? DOB: 14-4-1976 Time of Birth: 14:41 Place: Kodumudi (Karur) Tamilnadu. Thanks, Regards Balaji , Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Godse, > No love marriage can take place if there is no connection between 5th and 7th. > Any planet which is signifying 5th or 7th or 11th and commiting to 5, 7 or 11 can give love marriage if it is promise in the horoscope. suppose love marriage is promised but the native is devoid of dasa/Bhukti of a planet which has above said relation then also the native can not enjoy love marriage. > for any particular hoproscope ypu may submit the birth data to check. > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > Regards > > Abhay > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Gear Dharmendra Bhaskar, In Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,a planet gives results,according to the houses signified by lord of the star in which it is posited,while the sub-lord decides whether it is beneficial or not...according to the houses it owns... It is this discovery,together with with that of the Ruling Planets Theory,which has crowned the inventor,the late Jyotish Martand K.S.Krishnamurthi to everlasting fame... Later, K.P., is very clear on this... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 Sent: Wednesday, 18 October, 2006 9:54:57 PMRe: Re: Regarding Love marriage Dear all,In nakshtra paddhati, we study combination of houses as everythinfg is stored in houses, planet have nothing to do with events, they are only souce. So don't get confused about Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu or any other planatery conjunctions/ aspects/combustion/ retrogression.R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: Dear Abhay,Normally,5th and 7th would be related.Please check more importantly Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu conjunctions/ aspects.Regards,Satish@gro ups.com, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Group Members> > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th> SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the> other rules to judge love marriage?> > > Regards> > Abhay> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear Abhay Please do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luckAbhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group membersThanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my relative, i knowhis life history.(18/09/1973, 11:10 AM, Mumbai)Some of the facts about him & some of my inputs are as follows, yourcomments are valuable.1) Yes, I even thought of Mars-Venus effect as love marriage/affair asper vedic system & some vedic astrologers also told him about the sameearlier. But, the fact is that during Rahu-Mars dasha he proposed 2girls (age diff. around 8 yrs. in both cases) but, both of them declinedhis proposal (mars is in 6th house) Other than this, he never had anyaffair till date at least. In his horoscope, 7th SL Mer in 11th invirgo, Due to Mercury, can we say there will be only an arrangedmarriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl isknown to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnagedmarriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also.2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we considerthat it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, ifwe consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light onthis point also..Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house.3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a verygood friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in thisrelationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person islooking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th housestrongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another pointis, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents,aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point**4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top.5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so,in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Willastrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views will help to solve this case..RegardsAbhaySunil Joshi wrote:> May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and> 7th.>> --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote:>> > Dear Group Members> >> > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages> > happen even when 7th> > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th> > house. What are the> > other rules to judge love marriage?> >> >> > Regards> >> > Abhay> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear Yogesh Ji, Stellar System is neighter the copyright of K.S.Krishnamurthi nor any other person. The system originated from existing theory mentioned in various classical Nadi Granthas. He has only discovered something not invented anything. KSK have approached only to SUB while some others have gone upto SUB SUB which is far better with more applications/utilities and accurate predictions .If Rasi chart can't predict everything, how much it is possible to predict by sub lord with respect to Sub Sub lord. Why not you are mentioning his (or their) name(s). Thanks & Regards D K Bhaskar Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Gear Dharmendra Bhaskar, In Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,a planet gives results,according to the houses signified by lord of the star in which it is posited,while the sub-lord decides whether it is beneficial or not...according to the houses it owns... It is this discovery,together with with that of the Ruling Planets Theory,which has crowned the inventor,the late Jyotish Martand K.S.Krishnamurthi to everlasting fame... Later, K.P., is very clear on this... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 Wednesday, 18 October, 2006 9:54:57 PM Re: Re: Regarding Love marriage Dear all, In nakshtra paddhati, we study combination of houses as everythinfg is stored in houses, planet have nothing to do with events, they are only souce. So don't get confused about Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu or any other planatery conjunctions/ aspects/combustion/ retrogression. R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: Dear Abhay, Normally,5th and 7th would be related.Please check more importantly Venus/Mars or Venus/ Rahu conjunctions/ aspects. Regards, Satish @gro ups.com, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear Raichurji, Lajmiji and Kanakji;I was reading Astrosecrets part II and came across this profound statement. Quote.If the bhava sublord and sublord of the badakasthana bhava sublord are connected then the Bhava is affalicted. Unquote. What is the result of this affliction?? Does this mean that if the 7th bhava is afflicted, the person will not have a happy married life? If the 10th bhava is afflicted, the person will have a bad profession or no profession at all?? The bhadaka, as I understand is taken into consideration only for predicting death. All I want to know is that this quote is a part of KSK's astrology or individual's research??? On 10/20/06, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Abhay Please do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luckAbhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group membersThanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my relative, i knowhis life history. (18/09/1973, 11:10 AM, Mumbai)Some of the facts about him & some of my inputs are as follows, yourcomments are valuable.1) Yes, I even thought of Mars-Venus effect as love marriage/affair as per vedic system & some vedic astrologers also told him about the sameearlier. But, the fact is that during Rahu-Mars dasha he proposed 2girls (age diff. around 8 yrs. in both cases) but, both of them declined his proposal (mars is in 6th house) Other than this, he never had anyaffair till date at least. In his horoscope, 7th SL Mer in 11th invirgo, Due to Mercury, can we say there will be only an arrangedmarriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl isknown to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnagedmarriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also.2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we considerthat it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light onthis point also..Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. 3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a verygood friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in thisrelationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person islooking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th housestrongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents,aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point**4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top. 5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so,in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Willastrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views will help to solve this case.. RegardsAbhaySunil Joshi wrote:> May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and> 7th.>> --- Abhay Godse < abhaygodse wrote:>> > Dear Group Members> >> > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages> > happen even when 7th> > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th> > house. What are the > > other rules to judge love marriage?> >> >> > Regards> >> > Abhay> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear Abhay Check if there is Marriage Punarphoo. If it is there it may indicate love affair which is not frutified. Dasa Lord, Bhukty Lord and Antara lord have to be studied in relation to each other. Any one can indicate possibility of love marriage. If this not there we consider arranged marriage. There are no rules for arranged marriage, as in Indian Society, this is the most usual form. Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Raichur ji 1) Yes, i have done all the analysis & found out that 7th SL Mer. sig. 5th house & 5th SL is MOON which strongly sig. 7th house. But, still, since 7th SL is MER. itself , i dont think there are any indications of love marriage. Due to MER as 7th SL, i doubt whether it indicates love marriage. Secondly, the history of that person also doesnt indicate any Successful love affair, though there are attempts for an love affair. 2) What about Jup. dasha? Jup. is sig. 3,5 also. 5th house is getting activated but, Jup. is strong sig. of 3rd, which indicates arranged marriage. Can dasha lord indicate arrnaged or love marriage? If yes, then, in this chart, which is indicated? Your comments pls.. Regards Abhay Raichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayPlease do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group members Thanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my r arranged marriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl is known to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnaged marriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also. 2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we consider that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light on this point also.. Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. 3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2 girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a very good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in this relationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person is looking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents, aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point** 4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top. 5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so, in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Will astrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views will help to solve this case.. Regards Abhay Sunil Joshi wrote: > May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and > 7th. > > --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: > > > Dear Group Members > > > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > > happen even when 7th > > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > house. What are the > > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > > > > Regards > > > > Abhay > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear Ramchandran ji, Astrosecrets part 2 and 3 are not writen by any one author, each and every artical writen by individual.and not by shri KSK ji. Shri KSK ji suggest badhaka/Maraka for Longevity only. Happy Dipawali to all. regards Kanak BosmiaPadma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote: Dear Raichurji, Lajmiji and Kanakji;I was reading Astrosecrets part II and came across this profound statement. Quote.If the bhava sublord and sublord of the badakasthana bhava sublord are connected then the Bhava is affalicted. Unquote. What is the result of this affliction?? Does this mean that if the 7th bhava is afflicted, the person will not have a happy married life? If the 10th bhava is afflicted, the person will have a bad profession or no profession at all?? The bhadaka, as I understand is taken into consideration only for predicting death. All I want to know is that this quote is a part of KSK's astrology or individual's research??? On 10/20/06, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Abhay Please do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group membersThanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my relative, i knowhis life history. (18/09/1973, 11:10 AM, Mumbai)Some of the facts about him & some of my inputs are as follows, yourcomments are valuable.1) Yes, I even thought of Mars-Venus effect as love marriage/affair asper vedic system & some vedic astrologers also told him about the sameearlier. But, the fact is that during Rahu-Mars dasha he proposed 2girls (age diff. around 8 yrs. in both cases) but, both of them declined his proposal (mars is in 6th house) Other than this, he never had anyaffair till date at least. In his horoscope, 7th SL Mer in 11th invirgo, Due to Mercury, can we say there will be only an arrangedmarriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl isknown to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnagedmarriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also.2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we considerthat it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light onthis point also..Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. 3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a verygood friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in thisrelationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person islooking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th housestrongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents,aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point**4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top. 5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so,in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Willastrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views will help to solve this case.. RegardsAbhaySunil Joshi wrote:> May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and> 7th.>> --- Abhay Godse < abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote:>> > Dear Group Members> >> > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages> > happen even when 7th> > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th> > house. What are the > > other rules to judge love marriage?> >> >> > Regards> >> > Abhay> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dear sir, I have seen in so many cases people fall in love when no 5th significator dasha or bhukti was runing. Second it happens most of the time when 11th significators period or 7th significator dasha was runing. I think first it is is important to see when love started and if that is also signifying 7th that can be a marriage. Here one more question most of us say when 7th sub signifies 5th house love marriage predicted. But When 5th sub signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not signifies marriage. I think more research is necessary in these cases as now the days many love marriages are in fashion. vivek , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Abhay > Check if there is Marriage Punarphoo. If it is there it may indicate love affair which is not frutified. > Dasa Lord, Bhukty Lord and Antara lord have to be studied in relation to each other. Any one can indicate possibility of love marriage. If this not there we consider arranged marriage. There are no rules for arranged marriage, as in Indian Society, this is the most usual form. > > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > Dear Raichur ji 1) Yes, i have done all the analysis & found out that 7th SL Mer. sig. 5th house & 5th SL is MOON which strongly sig. 7th house. But, still, since 7th SL is MER. itself , i dont think there are any indications of love marriage. Due to MER as 7th SL, i doubt whether it indicates love marriage. Secondly, the history of that person also doesnt indicate any Successful love affair, though there are attempts for an love affair. 2) What about Jup. dasha? Jup. is sig. 3,5 also. 5th house is getting activated but, Jup. is strong sig. of 3rd, which indicates arranged marriage. Can dasha lord indicate arrnaged or love marriage? If yes, then, in this chart, which is indicated? Your comments pls.. Regards Abhay Raichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayPlease do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet > represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group members Thanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my r arranged > marriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl is > known to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnaged > marriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love > & arranged marriage can be very thin also. 2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & > 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we consider > that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if > we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & > 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light on > this point also.. > Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. 3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2 > girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a very > good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in this > relationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person is > looking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house > strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point > is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents, > aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? > Important point** 4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top. 5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so, > in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Will > astrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views will help to solve this case.. Regards Abhay Sunil Joshi wrote: > May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and > > 7th. > > > > --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > > > > > Dear Group Members > > > > > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > > > happen even when 7th > > > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > > house. What are the > > > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Abhay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dear Kanakji,Thanks very much for the clarity. It is sometimes very misleading to have a confirmation from the masters before coming to conclusions. Thanks very much and Happy Diwali to you, Sir.Ramachandran. On 10/20/06, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Ramchandran ji, Astrosecrets part 2 and 3 are not writen by any one author, each and every artical writen by individual.and not by shri KSK ji. Shri KSK ji suggest badhaka/Maraka for Longevity only. Happy Dipawali to all. regards Kanak Bosmia Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran > wrote: Dear Raichurji, Lajmiji and Kanakji;I was reading Astrosecrets part II and came across this profound statement. Quote.If the bhava sublord and sublord of the badakasthana bhava sublord are connected then the Bhava is affalicted. Unquote. What is the result of this affliction?? Does this mean that if the 7th bhava is afflicted, the person will not have a happy married life? If the 10th bhava is afflicted, the person will have a bad profession or no profession at all?? The bhadaka, as I understand is taken into consideration only for predicting death. All I want to know is that this quote is a part of KSK's astrology or individual's research??? On 10/20/06, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Abhay Please do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group membersThanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my relative, i knowhis life history. (18/09/1973, 11:10 AM, Mumbai)Some of the facts about him & some of my inputs are as follows, your comments are valuable.1) Yes, I even thought of Mars-Venus effect as love marriage/affair asper vedic system & some vedic astrologers also told him about the sameearlier. But, the fact is that during Rahu-Mars dasha he proposed 2 girls (age diff. around 8 yrs. in both cases) but, both of them declined his proposal (mars is in 6th house) Other than this, he never had anyaffair till date at least. In his horoscope, 7th SL Mer in 11th in virgo, Due to Mercury, can we say there will be only an arrangedmarriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl isknown to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnagedmarriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also.2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we consider that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light on this point also..Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. 3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a very good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in thisrelationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person islooking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents,aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point**4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top. 5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so,in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Willastrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views will help to solve this case.. RegardsAbhaySunil Joshi wrote:> May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and> 7th.>> --- Abhay Godse < abhaygodse wrote:>> > Dear Group Members> >> > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages> > happen even when 7th> > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > house. What are the > > other rules to judge love marriage?> >> >> > Regards> >> > Abhay> >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Dear Vivek, But When 5th sub signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not signifies marriage. KP READER IV page 171 " Love is to be judged from the sublord of the house and the significators of the 5th house. There may be, say, half a dozen girls whom a person may love. Yet that particular person who is born with such ruling planets which are the significators of the houses 2, 7 and 11 of the other will marry her or him. " Chandrakant R. Bhatt: Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani, page 14 If the cuspal sub lord of house 5 be in the Star of the occupant or owner of houses 7,11 marries the love one in the joint period of the Significators of houses 2,7,11. It may help. Regards, tw , " vivek " <viveck2001 wrote: > > Dear sir, > I have seen in so many cases people fall in love when no > 5th significator dasha or bhukti was runing. Second it happens most > of the time when 11th significators period or 7th significator dasha > was runing. I think first it is is important to see when love started > and if that is also signifying 7th that can be a marriage. > Here one more question most of us say when 7th > sub signifies 5th house love marriage predicted. But When 5th sub > signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love > marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not > signifies marriage. > I think more research is necessary in these cases > as now the days many love marriages are in fashion. > vivek > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Abhay > > Check if there is Marriage Punarphoo. If it is there it may > indicate love affair which is not frutified. > > Dasa Lord, Bhukty Lord and Antara lord have to be studied in > relation to each other. Any one can indicate possibility of love > marriage. If this not there we consider arranged marriage. There are > no rules for arranged marriage, as in Indian Society, this is the > most usual form. > > > > > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@> wrote: > > Dear Raichur ji 1) Yes, i have done all the analysis & > found out that 7th SL Mer. sig. 5th house & 5th SL is MOON which > strongly sig. 7th house. But, still, since 7th SL is MER. itself , i > dont think there are any indications of love marriage. Due to MER as > 7th SL, i doubt whether it indicates love marriage. Secondly, the > history of that person also doesnt indicate any Successful love > affair, though there are attempts for an love affair. 2) What > about Jup. dasha? Jup. is sig. 3,5 also. 5th house is getting > activated but, Jup. is strong sig. of 3rd, which indicates arranged > marriage. Can dasha lord indicate arrnaged or love marriage? If yes, > then, in this chart, which is indicated? Your comments pls.. > Regards Abhay Raichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayPlease do not mix > up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic > working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per > KP. Write down from this what houses each planet > > represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP > Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the > 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses > then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only > 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luck Abhay > Godse <abhaygodse@> wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all > other group members Thanks for your valuable input, Since this > person is my r arranged > > marriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl > is > > known to him right now? this is is because, there can be an > arrnaged > > marriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between > love > > & arranged marriage can be very thin also. 2) About 5th & 7th > relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & > > 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we > consider > > that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, > if > > we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between > 5th & > > 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw > light on > > this point also.. > > Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. 3) In the > Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2 > > girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a > very > > good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in > this > > relationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person > is > > looking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house > > strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another > point > > is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents, > > aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? > > Important point** 4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is > given in this mail at top. 5) Right now, the trend of doing love > marriages is increasing, so, > > in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Will > > astrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? Your views > will help to solve this case.. Regards Abhay Sunil Joshi > wrote: > May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and > > > 7th. > > > > > > --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group Members > > > > > > > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > > > > happen even when 7th > > > > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > > > house. What are the > > > > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Abhay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 / Dear Abhay Godse, I have state earlier the role of Venus/Rahu/Mars in matters relating to Love marriage.This is a non KP concept, because houses/significators are important not the Karakatwas of the planets. Now you are bringing in the planet Venus as a causative factor.One way of solving this riddle is, to relate all Love Marriages to planets other than Venus/Rahu/Mars using KP. Since you and Kanakbhai possess such data, could you kindly examine few cases for the relevance. Regards, Satish , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > > Dear Vivek > > Apart from all other rules, i have even observed that, if 7th SL is Ven. > in the sign Taurus/ Libra/ Pisces & if even if it doesnt sig. 5th house, > love marriage happens. Sometimes, you can also check the chances for love > marriage from dasha also, if Venus dasha or bhukti is going on at that > time, then , the chacnes are more of an love marriage. > > Regards > > Abhay > > vivek wrote: > > > Dear sir, > > I have seen in so many cases people fall in love when no > > 5th significator dasha or bhukti was runing. Second it happens most > > of the time when 11th significators period or 7th significator dasha > > was runing. I think first it is is important to see when love started > > and if that is also signifying 7th that can be a marriage. > > Here one more question most of us say when 7th > > sub signifies 5th house love marriage predicted. But When 5th sub > > signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love > > marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not > > signifies marriage. > > I think more research is necessary in these cases > > as now the days many love marriages are in fashion. > > vivek > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Dear Satish ji and Abhay ji, 1) If 5th SL signfies 2,11 the native fall in love. 2) If 5th CSL signfies 7,11 there is a possibility of Love Marriage. 3) If 5th CSK signfies 6,12 Native never marriage aperson whom he/she love.(A) If 5th SL sognfies 6th oponent break this love affair.(B) If 5th SL sognfies 12th Native Him self break this love affair. 4) If 7th SL signifes 5,11 then love affair will be materialize in marriage. 5) If 5th Sl Conected with RAH or KET intercast,Interstate or inter religious, Marriage will be possible. This is all what i know about Love marriage. One have to do research on this subject. Regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: /Dear Abhay Godse,I have state earlier the role of Venus/Rahu/Mars in matters relating to Love marriage.This is a non KP concept, because houses/significators are important not the Karakatwas of the planets.Now you are bringing in the planet Venus as a causative factor.One way of solving this riddle is, to relate all Love Marriages to planets other than Venus/Rahu/Mars using KP.Since you and Kanakbhai possess such data, could you kindly examine few cases for the relevance.Regards,Satish , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:>> Dear Vivek> > Apart from all other rules, i have even observed that, if 7th SL is Ven.> in the sign Taurus/ Libra/ Pisces & if even if it doesnt sig. 5th house,> love marriage happens. Sometimes, you can also check the chances for love> marriage from dasha also, if Venus dasha or bhukti is going on at that> time, then , the chacnes are more of an love marriage.> > Regards> > Abhay> > vivek wrote:> > > Dear sir,> > I have seen in so many cases people fall in love when no> > 5th significator dasha or bhukti was runing. Second it happens most> > of the time when 11th significators period or 7th significator dasha> > was runing. I think first it is is important to see when love started> > and if that is also signifying 7th that can be a marriage.> > Here one more question most of us say when 7th> > sub signifies 5th house love marriage predicted. But When 5th sub> > signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love> > marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not> > signifies marriage.> > I think more research is necessary in these cases> > as now the days many love marriages are in fashion.> > vivek> > -->>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Dear members, I want to add if 7th sub is connected with rahu or ketu marriage in other cast/relegion possible. As i want to say to Mr. abhay if you totaly predict through vedic method as you told that is also very true infact take care using nakshtra along with rashi to predict. Second as in KP as everything done by the significators so mostly kp students I had seen trying to avoid vedic methods but it is very necessary to see the vedic system also to clear things. Our 7th sub and is marriage I think more related to what marriage will bring for us 5th affection, fullfilment of desires etc. now 7th sub connected with rahu, ketu and if these rahu,ketu signifies 5th,11th can give love marriage in other cast on the same way we see vedic aspect of rahu or ketu also. if 5th signifies 2,11 gives love affair and if signifies 7,11 then love marriage. More better we can say if 5th signifies 7th it gives us a partoner but not marriage all the time. I think we have to study more on this. I will try to write more next time. vivek , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Satish ji and Abhay ji, > > > 1) If 5th SL signfies 2,11 the native fall in love. > 2) If 5th CSL signfies 7,11 there is a possibility of Love Marriage. > 3) If 5th CSK signfies 6,12 Native never marriage aperson whom he/she love.(A) If 5th SL sognfies 6th oponent break this love affair. (B) If 5th SL sognfies 12th Native Him self break this love affair. > 4) If 7th SL signifes 5,11 then love affair will be materialize in marriage. > 5) If 5th Sl Conected with RAH or KET intercast,Interstate or inter religious, Marriage will be possible. > > This is all what i know about Love marriage. > > One have to do research on this subject. > > Regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: > / > > Dear Abhay Godse, > > I have state earlier the role of > Venus/Rahu/Mars in matters relating to Love marriage.This is a non KP > concept, because houses/significators are important not the > Karakatwas of the planets. > > Now you are bringing in the planet Venus as a > causative factor.One way of solving this riddle is, to relate all > Love Marriages to planets other than Venus/Rahu/Mars using KP. > > Since you and Kanakbhai possess such data, > could you kindly examine few cases for the relevance. > > Regards, > > Satish > > , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vivek > > > > Apart from all other rules, i have even observed that, if 7th SL is > Ven. > > in the sign Taurus/ Libra/ Pisces & if even if it doesnt sig. 5th > house, > > love marriage happens. Sometimes, you can also check the chances > for love > > marriage from dasha also, if Venus dasha or bhukti is going on at > that > > time, then , the chacnes are more of an love marriage. > > > > Regards > > > > Abhay > > > > vivek wrote: > > > > > Dear sir, > > > I have seen in so many cases people fall in love when no > > > 5th significator dasha or bhukti was runing. Second it happens > most > > > of the time when 11th significators period or 7th significator > dasha > > > was runing. I think first it is is important to see when love > started > > > and if that is also signifying 7th that can be a marriage. > > > Here one more question most of us say when 7th > > > sub signifies 5th house love marriage predicted. But When 5th sub > > > signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love > > > marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not > > > signifies marriage. > > > I think more research is necessary in these > cases > > > as now the days many love marriages are in fashion. > > > vivek > > > -- > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Dear Abhay Marriage Punarphoo has ben discussed in this group, many times. Any way it is caused by the Connection between Sat and Moon, in any way. Even aspect of Sat on Moon may lead to this phenomenon Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Raichur Ji I am not aware about "Marriage Punarphoo", what it is? Kindly tell me. Regards Abhay Raichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayCheck if there is Marriage Punarphoo. If it is there it may indicate love affair which is not frutified.Dasa Lord, Bhukty Lord and Antara lord have to be studied in relation to each other. Any one can indicate possibility of love marriage. If this not there we consider arranged marriage. There are no rules for arranged marriage, as in Indian Society, this is the most usual form. Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Raichur ji1) Yes, i have done all the analysis & found out that 7th SL Mer. sig. 5th house & 5th SL is MOON which strongly sig. 7th house. But, still, since 7th SL is MER. itself , i dont think there are any indications of love marriage. Due to MER as 7th SL, i doubt whether it indicates love marriage. Secondly, the history of that person also doesnt indicate any Successful love affair, though there are attempts for an love affair.2) What about Jup. dasha? Jup. is sig. 3,5 also. 5th house is getting activated but, Jup. is strong sig. of 3rd, which indicates arranged marriage. Can dasha lord indicate arrnaged or love marriage? If yes, then, in this chart, which is indicated?Your comments pls..RegardsAbhayRaichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayPlease do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luckAbhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group membersThanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my r arranged marriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl is known to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnaged marriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also.2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we consider that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light on this point also.. Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house.3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2 girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a very good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in this relationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person is looking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents, aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point**4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top.5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so, in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Will astrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage?Your views will help to solve this case..RegardsAbhaySunil Joshi wrote:> May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and > 7th. > > --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: > > > Dear Group Members > > > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > > happen even when 7th > > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > house. What are the > > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > > > > Regards > > > > Abhay > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Respected Kanak Ji, That was very beautiful. I think you have summarized all the important rules in a very nice manner. Regards and Pranam, AndrewKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Satish ji and Abhay ji, 1) If 5th SL signfies 2,11 the native fall in love. 2) If 5th CSL signfies 7,11 there is a possibility of Love Marriage. 3) If 5th CSK signfies 6,12 Native never marriage aperson whom he/she love.(A) If 5th SL sognfies 6th oponent break this love affair.(B) If 5th SL sognfies 12th Native Him self break this love affair. 4) If 7th SL signifes 5,11 then love affair will be materialize in marriage. 5) If 5th Sl Conected with RAH or KET intercast,Interstate or inter religious, Marriage will be possible. This is all what i know about Love marriage. One have to do research on this subject. Regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 > wrote: /Dear Abhay Godse,I have state earlier the role of Venus/Rahu/Mars in matters relating to Love marriage.This is a non KP concept, because houses/significators are important not the Karakatwas of the planets.Now you are bringing in the planet Venus as a causative factor.One way of solving this riddle is, to relate all Love Marriages to planets other than Venus/Rahu/Mars using KP.Since you and Kanakbhai possess such data, could you kindly examine few cases for the relevance.Regards,Satish , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:>> Dear Vivek> > Apart from all other rules, i have even observed that, if 7th SL is Ven.> in the sign Taurus/ Libra/ Pisces & if even if it doesnt sig. 5th house,> love marriage happens. Sometimes, you can also check the chances for love> marriage from dasha also, if Venus dasha or bhukti is going on at that> time, then , the chacnes are more of an love marriage.> > Regards> > Abhay> > vivek wrote:> > > Dear sir,> > I have seen in so many cases people fall in love when no> > 5th significator dasha or bhukti was runing. Second it happens most> > of the time when 11th significators period or 7th significator dasha> > was runing. I think first it is is important to see when love started> > and if that is also signifying 7th that can be a marriage.> > Here one more question most of us say when 7th> > sub signifies 5th house love marriage predicted. But When 5th sub> > signifies 7th then what will be the outcome, is that same love> > marriage. Yes when marriage signifies love then why love not> > signifies marriage.> > I think more research is necessary in these cases> > as now the days many love marriages are in fashion.> > vivek> > --> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Prof. Andrew Dutta Faculty Member The ICFAI Business School, Aditya Court, 8-2-334, Road No. 5, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad 500034, India. Tel: 91-4023430415-19 Extn: 262 Fax: 91-4023430414 Cell: 0-0-98666 20483 How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Yes. It could be, and this would result in some delay/Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Raichur ji Should we see punarphoo in natal chart? In the natal chart of 18/09/1973,11:10, Mumbai, Sat. is not connected with moon (but, if we consider effect of sadesati, which is sat. effect of moon, then, the birth itself is in sadesati) Now, Sat. is coming in leo which will aspect moon in 7th house. Can this be considered as Punarphoo? Raichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayMarriage Punarphoo has ben discussed in this group, many times. Any way it is caused by the Connection between Sat and Moon, in any way. Even aspect of Sat on Moon may lead to this phenomenon Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Raichur JiI am not aware about "Marriage Punarphoo", what it is? Kindly tell me.RegardsAbhayRaichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayCheck if there is Marriage Punarphoo. If it is there it may indicate love affair which is not frutified.Dasa Lord, Bhukty Lord and Antara lord have to be studied in relation to each other. Any one can indicate possibility of love marriage. If this not there we consider arranged marriage. There are no rules for arranged marriage, as in Indian Society, this is the most usual form.Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Raichur ji1) Yes, i have done all the analysis & found out that 7th SL Mer. sig. 5th house & 5th SL is MOON which strongly sig. 7th house. But, still, since 7th SL is MER. itself , i dont think there are any indications of love marriage. Due to MER as 7th SL, i doubt whether it indicates love marriage. Secondly, the history of that person also doesnt indicate any Successful love affair, though there are attempts for an love affair.2) What about Jup. dasha? Jup. is sig. 3,5 also. 5th house is getting activated but, Jup. is strong sig. of 3rd, which indicates arranged marriage. Can dasha lord indicate arrnaged or love marriage? If yes, then, in this chart, which is indicated?Your comments pls..RegardsAbhayRaichur-a-r wrote: Dear AbhayPlease do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are signified, normal arranged marriage. good luckAbhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group membersThanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my r arranged marriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl is known to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnaged marriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love & arranged marriage can be very thin also.2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we consider that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light on this point also.. Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house.3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2 girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a very good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in this relationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person is looking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents, aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? Important point**4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top.5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so, in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Will astrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage?Your views will help to solve this case..RegardsAbhaySunil Joshi wrote:> May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and > 7th. > > --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse (AT) eth (DOT) net> wrote: > > > Dear Group Members > > > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > > happen even when 7th > > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > house. What are the > > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > > > > Regards > > > > Abhay > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Sir I am new man to net discussions. I am unable to understand which is reply part. So pls. members pls indicate in caps without minding REPLY TO MSG ......with date and time pls since lot of msg is there is confusing wasting net time. I hope the moderator will help me in this. The subjects are very interesting and very useful instead of searching books etc each one expereince after understanding the system and discussed in this forum is so useful like a class room group dis. The technology has made us new friends and all of us together like family members. So I am so happy. Coming to the point of love marriage I feel a girl of tradition in normal life according to her biology given by god when she comes out taking risk avoiding parents etc shoud be very very bold so Mars and 3 rd house should be powerfully connected to 7th bhava. She has to come out of house without informing so 3rd house 12 to 4 Love happiness in sex life etc are governed by Venus so venus connection to mars and the Moon the mind and 5th house must have connection since ones in love our mind is terribly agitated (even in normal marriage once marriage is fixed till marriage date everybody mind is highly disturbed and imagine many things). So venus, mars, moon, and also Raghu the tradition breaker by star sub rasi dasa bukthi etc at the ages between 20 to 45 should be connecgted well for a love and also a marriage after love. If there are connection for 4, 12, and 8th with mars then there will be aggretion by police beatings etc is possible. No love marriage is very smooth without any tension either to parents and the parities involved so during the period mind karaka moon must be afflicted by trasit raghu or kethu or mars. No no incident is dilluted by single or one or two factors. It is combined happening of so many bhav as involved nothing less than 3 to 5 bhavas. If all of angles are imagined and seen in the hors. it will be a easy work and correct judgement. Members pls excuse me for a detailed explanation.. > connected then the Bhava is affalicted. > > Unquote. > > What is the result of this affliction?? Does this mean that if the 7th > bhava is afflicted, the person will not have a happy married life? If the > 10th bhava is afflicted, the person will have a bad profession or no > profession at all?? The bhadaka, as I understand is taken into consideration > only for predicting death. All I want to know is that this quote is a part > of KSK's astrology or individual's research??? > > On 10/20/06, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > > > Dear Abhay > > Please do not mix up traditipnal astro rules with KP rules. > > > > KP requires systematic working. Cast the chart. Write out significators of > > each House as per KP. Write down from this what houses each planet > > represents in order of A:B;C;D;E signification. Then apply KP Rules. > > > > Have you done this ?. Then check what the planet which is the 7th cusp > > sublord, signifies. If it signifies,5 amongst other houses then love > > marriage is indicated. If 5th is not signified, and only 2/7/or 11 are > > signified, normal arranged marriage. > > > > good luck > > > > *Abhay Godse <abhaygodse* wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Sunil , Mr. Satish & all other group members > > > > Thanks for your valuable input, Since this person is my relative, i know > > his life history. > > (18/09/1973, 11:10 AM, Mumbai) > > > > Some of the facts about him & some of my inputs are as follows, your > > comments are valuable. > > > > 1) Yes, I even thought of Mars-Venus effect as love marriage/affair as > > per vedic system & some vedic astrologers also told him about the same > > earlier. But, the fact is that during Rahu-Mars dasha he proposed 2 > > girls (age diff. around 8 yrs. in both cases) but, both of them declined > > his proposal (mars is in 6th house) Other than this, he never had any > > affair till date at least. In his horoscope, 7th SL Mer in 11th in > > virgo, Due to Mercury, can we say there will be only an arranged > > marriage. Or in the other way round, Can we check whether the Girl is > > known to him right now? this is is because, there can be an arrnaged > > marriage with a girl which is known to him. The border line between love > > & arranged marriage can be very thin also. > > > > 2) About 5th & 7th relationship, 5th SL Moon is in 7th house itself & > > 7th SL Mer. is in 11th house, Since 7th SL is in 11th, can we consider > > that it aspects 5th house? This is a very important point, because, if > > we consider this, then, there will be a perfect connection between 5th & > > 7th houses as required by the rule of love marriage. Pls. throw light on > > this point also.. > > Even if we see current Jup. dasha, it sig. 5th house. > > > > 3) In the Jup. Mahadasha (statred from June-july 2006), Out of the 2 > > girls he proposed, 1 girl (stays in another city) has now became a very > > good friend of him, but, till date, there is no affair as such in this > > relationship(from the girl's side). On the other hand, this person is > > looking out for proposals as well. Since Jup. dasha sig. 5th house > > strongly, can it be considered strong for love marriage? Another point > > is, dasha lord Jup. is in 3rd house which indicates documents, > > aggrements so, is this indicates arranged marriage again? > > Important point** > > > > 4) Dear Mr. Dharmendra Bhaskar, Birth data is given in this mail at top. > > > > 5) Right now, the trend of doing love marriages is increasing, so, > > in the future, most of the marriages will be love marriage...Will > > astrologers need to refine the rule of love marriage? > > > > Your views will help to solve this case.. > > > > Regards > > > > Abhay > > > > Sunil Joshi wrote: > > > > > May be venus and Moon are in conjunction in 5th and > > > 7th. > > > > > > --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse <abhaygodse%40eth.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group Members > > > > > > > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages > > > > happen even when 7th > > > > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th > > > > house. What are the > > > > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Abhay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Dear frnd The important planet for marriage is venus and the second one is jupiter. Pls verify the both where it placed, its aspects, conjuctions surely it will signify the houses 5th and 7th. Take its star lord also. , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > In many cases, i have observed that love marriages happen even when 7th > SL doesn't signifies 5th & even 5th doesn't sig. 7th house. What are the > other rules to judge love marriage? > > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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