Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Dear Ramchandran ji, I am found your time as under: do not only read this mail but try to do all maths your self otherwise you cnat follow this method. I am done this work with two software: RP with Raichur software and other are with KPAstro2.5( this is not to pramot any one but as we know in each software we found some defferance and in this work i do up to sub-sub leveal and time gape is very -very nerrow so if any one do with other software may be we foiund some defferance. I request Punit ji to clear if you think this as Pramotion of some one I will not mention again in future.) =========================================================================== Stap no:1 calculet Moon position on birth day up to sub-sub leval. Stap: 2:calculet RP after pray to you istadevata. step:3 look Birth Moon position and match with RP Asc. step:4 when in found borth moon position telly with RP Asc.Calculet Asc for that time for birth place. Step:5. adjest with time of step no: 4 to telly with RP MOON. Step no: 6 Match with importnat event. Now i do all this excercise with you work: ============================================================================== Step No: 1 Birth Moon position on 21/01/1947-Palghat-kerla-india 10 N 47 ,, 76 E 39. Givan time is : 10.29 AM. On this day MOON transit from VEN star. we have to check Birth MOON's Sub up to 11 AM ( Bcoz givan time is 10.29 AM) From 04.53.53 AM SAT sub start( VEN-SAT) And at : 09.09.04 AM From 09.09.04 AM MER sub start( VEN-MER) And at : 12.57.01 PM Now we have only two sub choise. SAT and MER. ================================================================================ Step : 2 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 17,09,2006WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 21,17,03 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 21 39 50 MARS VEN JUP RAHU MOON/CHANDRA 97 55 22 MOON SAT KETU SATRAHU 331 23 5 JUP JUP RAHU RAHUKETU 151 23 5 MERC SUN JUP JUP =============================================================================== Step: 3 We have to Look in RP Asc to telly with Birth MOON. RP Asc. MAR-VEN-JUP-RAH. A.Birth MOON is in VEN star and VEN is in RP as Asc star so star is OK B. now we look for SUB.we have two SUB: SAT & MER.Both are not directly in our RP. For SAT: MAR ( our RP ) Aspected by SAT.For MER: MER conj with MAR, RAH(our RP) aspectd by MER. we have both act as a agent of RP so we have to look ferther to select one for this two.SAT: in MOON Rasi -MER Star - RAH sub.MER: in MER Rasi-MOON star -RAH sub. Again we found same. I select only MOON bcoz of two reson: 1)MER represantfor two RP and SAT represent only one RP. also MER represant Node.2) On 17th ( our RP data) Punarphoo dosa is there. MOON is in the star of SAT and SAT is in the Rasi of MOON. and due to Punarphoo we select last sub which is MER. Duration of MER sub is 09.09.04 AM to 12.57.01 PM.so we look for sub-sub of birth moon. VEN-MER-MER 09.09.04 AM TO 09.41.23 AMVEN-MER-KET 09.41.23 AM TO 09.54.41 AMVEN-MER-VEN 09.54.41 AM TO 10.32.42 AMVEN-MER-SUN 10.32.42 AM TO 10.44.06 AMVEN-MER-MOO 10.44.06 AM TO 11.03.05 AM we do not ry for more bcoze this is in our time frame. Now we have sub-sub MER,KET,VEN,SUN,MOO. IN OUR rp aSC. WE HAVE: MAR-VEN-JUP-RAH MER we select as sub, next is KET is agent of MAR and MER, next is VEN and is direct from RPso we select VEN as sub-sub. Duration IS VEN-MER-VEN 09.54.41 AM TO 10.32.42 AM ============================================================================= STEP: 4 To findout Birth Asc form RP Moon. Asc fot starting time of VEN-MER-VEN 09.54.41 AM: 10.28.06.04 SAT-JUP-VEN-SAT 09.56.59 AM: 10.28.46.58 SAT-JUP-SUN-SUN 09.59.13 AM: 10.29.26.42 JUP-JUP-MOO-MOO 10.02.58 AM: 11.00.33.29 JUP-JUP-MAR-MAR 10.05.35 AM: 11.01.20.07 JUP-JUP-RAH-RAH 10.12.19 AM: 11.03.20.13 JUP-SAT-SAT-SAT 10.19.24 AM: 11.05.26.41 JUP-SAT-MER-MER 10.25.45 AM: 11.07.20.05 JUP-SAT-KET-KETAsc. for ending time of VEN-MER-VEN 10.29.22 AM: 11.08.06.49 JUP-SAT-VEN-VEN =============================================================================== STEP:5 We have RP MOON as: MOON SAT KETU SAT KET and JUP are in Comj on birth day. so Rasi pati JUP is OK.SAT is in our RP so SUB of SAT is onFor sub we have three chois which are near our time.secon in our case we fiound Punarphoo dosa in RP chart so we select end sub which is in our RP and VEN last sub is also in our RP.so we select tis sub. ow for sub we adjestsub-sub . 10.29.22 AM: 11.08.06.49 JUP-SAT-VEN-VEN10.29.37 AM 11.08.29.09 JUP-SAT-VEN-SUN10.29.59 AM 11.08.35.42 JUP-SAT-VEN-MOO10.30.36 AM 11.08.46.42 JUP-SAT-VEN-MAR10.31.03 AM 11.08.54.44 JUP-SAT-VEN-RAH10.32.10 AM 11.09.14.41 JUP-SAT-VEN-JUP10.33.09 AM 11.09.32.14 JUP-SAT-VEN-SAT10.34.20 AM 11.09.14.41 JUP-SAT-VEN-MER SUN,MAR,RAH,MAR are not in RP.JUP,SAT,VEN,we select as Rasipati and starlord and sublord.now we have only MOON which is in RP as Rasilord. so your corect birth time is 10.29.59( rectified time.) =========================================================================== step:6 Match your important even with this time and veryfie is it Ok and write me. hope it help regardskanak Bosmia Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote: Dear Kanakji,Thanks for your encouragement in trying the connection between RP moon and Natal Asc. Finally succeeded. The corrected time of Birth is 10.33 AM, Place Palghat in Kerala, Date of Birth is 21 January 1947. The RP moon I cast signified Sun sign, saturn star, Ketu sub and saturn Sub-sub. 1.The RP Moon is In Cancer in Moon's house together with saturn and the RP moon is in Saturn star. Asc is in Jupiter rasi and Jupiter in RP is in Saturn star. So, I think they are connected.2. The RP moon is in Saturn Star and the Asc Star Lord is also saturn. This matches without any doubt. 3. The RP moon is in the sub of Ketu and the Asc is in the sub of Venus. Venus and Ketu have common sub, Jupiter. This is OK.4. The sub - sub in both cases is again Saturn. So this is a perfect match. I had done a correction based on Natal moon and Asc which showed 10.28.AM.and based on RP it is 10.33. I must also inform you that when I did the RP, I based it on the LAt and Long of my birth place- Palghat. I did it after I read your mails at 9.17.03 PM today ,i.e., 17/Sept/2006.o Sir, please write to me if I am correct.Also, I wish to know from you one thing from my horoscope. I will be starting saturn Mahadasa from Jan 2007.saturn is in the 5th house and is in own star and sub mars. sub mars gives 10, 2, 9 signification. sun is in 5th house and owning 11 and 12. From the 10th, saturn is in the 8th. Does this mean bad for the profession? Or the significators of saturn being 2, 9,10 saturn will benefic results anyway. In saturn star both saturn and ketu are seated. So the significators of 5,11,12 houses are saturn and ketu. saturn does not form the strong significator since Ketu is associated with these house. Ketu will give the effect of Venus. Venus is in the 9th Which is the right approach? Alos, does this mean during saturn mahadasha I have a lot of travel abroad? If you find my approach to BT rectification OK, I will try to correct the same of my family members and send you the same.Thanks for your help.V.Ramachandran. On 9/17/06, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Ramchandran ji, Please donot reject outrightly this rules. this rule is give in Baskaran's book and it was as: RP ASC = BIRTH MOON RP MOON = BIRTH ASC. If you set Birth moon as per RP Asc you will found autometicly Asc as per RP Moon. I have done two rectification as per this rules for Vijaykumar ji and Indira Gandhi. please look some days back mail. please write your work how you check RP MOON -Birth Asc. so i will try to correct you if there is any mistake.but with full details date time & name of place regards kanak Bosmia Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com> wrote: Respected KP masters,I hav tried birth time rectification with Asc and RP moon. I have not been successful even with my own family memebers. Whereas, the Natal moon and Asc as researched by late Shanmugham for birth time correction and professed by both Lajmiji and Raichurji have shown good results. These are of course my findings. I may be wrong to put down any theory since I am not a professional astrologer. With due apologies;V.Ramachandran. On 9/16/06, Yogesh Rao Lajmi < lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak and Swamiji, Absolutely desireable,indeed.In my personal experience only Shanmugham's method,used with a SW which gives positions of planets and cusps upto sub-sub level is found very useful... BTW,am extremely happy to note,Kanak, that you are back with us...! With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Swamiji, Please check both time. both are very near def is only one mnt.but in 7.57 3rd sub is KET and in 7.58 3rd Sub is VEN. so when we check third cusp metter then which one count as right? this is reson that i insist to rectifed up to sub-sub leaval. hope it help regards kanak Bosmiaswami omkar <swamiomkar (AT) (DOT) co.in > wrote: Dear Kanak, This looks very amazing that you are having exact time of birth. as per my very little knowledge i tryied to do RBT. and also given some practical exampels. but as per your result my thoery is failure..we can keep like this...! so i hope i dont want to explain my failure thoery to all. now i need answer for my two questions.! 1) how you can proove that 7.58 time is correct. what is the astrologcial or practical..logical truth behaind it? 2) you are doing lot of KP research as a well known kp astrologer, i am asking to u that 7.57 and 7.58 makes diffrence in SUB level?( if so pls tell the explaination) Swami Omkar Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > wrote: Dear Swami ji, His time of birth is 7:58 AM and two indication given by you is wrong. He has very good hair groth. and no Birth mark( like mole) in his lower abdomen near to private part, regards Kanakswami omkar < swamiomkar@ .co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, I thought after getting answer from you then i can explain "how i got". ASC = 93:23:39 moon-sat-sat Moon = 35:44:53 Ven-Sun-Mer This above value is for ASC and Moon. i always ready to share my knowledge. so after your answer i wil give a details report about my RBT Swami Omkar Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > wrote: Dear Swamiji, Please remember that We are not doing this for to check you but to learn from you. please send you details how you come at 7:57 and what is the Rasi.Deg.Mnt.sec of Asc. and what is the Rasi.Deg.Mnt.sec of MOON. with out this detail there is no meaning of your rectiifcation. I will reply your two question after detals about Asc and MOON possition. I know I am write mutch in group and so i critisize by many members in group and by personal mail so i am thinking on to keep silent for sometime ( retirement for some times ) with best regards kanak swami omkar <swamiomkar (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji, As per your confidence based on info and guidence, i rectifiyed the chart between 7.55 to 8.00 Through my View the Birth Time is 7:57. Some Major Points to verify with natives physical. 1) Some hair fall in head. 2) Birth mark( like mole) in his lower abdomen near to private part, Pls tell your view i am waiting for answer egarly. Swami Omkar www.pranavapeetam.org Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Swami ji, Time is 100% bitwin 7.55 to 8.00. this person is my clint ( bcose you insiste me to not take data from any other source but take only from clint so i do this) so nothing wrong with data this is 100% genuanl data ther is no misleading from my side. after you rectifed time i will provide his email id for whom who want to check with directly with this person. so swamiji please go only with this data OR I AM NO READY TO SEND ANY OTHER DATA AND WE WILL DROP THIS CASE HERE. Good Luck regards kanak swami omkar <swamiomkar (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, the data which you are given i think, the time is not that much correct means the birth not taken place between 7.55 to 8.00. pls provid any other data. Swami Omkar '--- Dear Raichurji, very soon i post my method RBT. Swami Omkar www.pranavapeetam.org Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Swami Onkar ji Will you kindly detail the method you are using to rectify birth time. You may post to the group, or to me personally. I would like to learn of the method. An example showing the detailed steps would be helpfull to all. If you have done for some other group, please just re post it. good luckswami omkar <swamiomkar (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak and all, The Matter which i tried to explain..that you and all taken in wrong way. like same people are misundarstood the theory of RBT with RP. even though the people not understanding my simple email....they misunderstood then how they wil understand RP thoery which i wil going to explain? there is lot of technuqe is there for RBT. but i telling you the asking past and rectifying the BT is wrong. i never told all method is wrong. and even though i am telling that i get only good result i am not told i am getting 100% result. so finaly i telling that i can take the birth time which u give and i wil rectify the time between 7.55 to 8.00 but i can tel some event you can check and tell. pls dont tell with me that the time what u r having in mind that only the right one. after getting my feed back then u can ask.and theory behaind it. again i am telling i am not the person telling that my meothed only give result.and the method which i using that also used by many KP astrologers. finaly i want to tell the comments on u r commnets.! see my commnets with Orange! Swami Omkar Dear Swami ji, thanks for your view. My comment in bold*************swami omkar <swamiomkar (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Twji, I am very much surprised after seeing your posing as well as old postings. if Birth rectification is not having proper rule then there is no use to follow this system! I am not agree with you, if we are not setisfied with birth time rectification we can go with Horary, so as you sya no use of system is not velid statement. horary is another tool and natal chart is another tool. if u can tell all questions about native's life in single chart?in horary? the time chart also reflects the answer which the native having question in mind at the time of meeting. I am following RBT(Rectification of Birth Time) like Birth Asc and Current Moon from past 6 yrs. i feel the method which i follow that is giving amazing results. What is the authantication of your result? becoz the people are coming aging and again with satisfaction. from past 6yrs. and my students more then 50 members using this technuqne without fail. any one need i can also give thier contact address. but any other people who done 100 charts research and told comment about RBT they have any practical proof like this? and you given reference of rangarajan and kuppu ganapathi.'s postings...based on RBT. i like to tell that ranga and ganapathi are not authoraty of KP system. and any one ready to give authontication and relaiablity of data which they used in thier research? first how they understood the RBT techque that is very importent. in that erlyer posting they only giving the % percentage of result. but not they explained what is the connectivity between ASC and MOON or which techniqe they followed. You mean to say no one understood RBT techque except you. am i right? no you are wrong. i already told that i fulfeeled with the techniuqe. some people also having good technuqe. but i against with the thought the people who telling that RBT using RP wil not work! Basicaly i don't like the people doing research on the bulk data of horoscope. which kanak also done based on marriage, i like his effort...but without knowing the authantication of data doing research is not that much good.some time it breake the confidence on system which we following. so i request people who doing research they can use thier own data which they getting in thier practice. what is the authantication of data from his own data which they getting in thier practice? if in our prctice we found all correct data then what is the meaning of RBT? why we need RBT?I am try this too. i ask members to provide data but it is 100% true that i got only 10 data and no one can do research with 10 data. Now i request you to provide me 100 data from you own prectice i will do all my work again and dispose all my old work. Data taken for Research by me for Multiple marriage are all AA rated and All worlds astrologer accepet it with selute then who are we to chalange that data? what is other have all are wrong and what is with us is only right... people who coming to us for thier life guidence they never give fake data. in that manner i told. you are the KP astrologer. you can know the basics of KP that , natal chart wil differ with person to person. even for twins. the same chart we wil not see again in our entier life. this is the truth. then checking rule in old chart it wil not make sense. just understand the rules and apply to all charts which u wil get in future. keeping lot of chart and applying KP rules is simmiler to archaeology which tellis only past ! not future... i can give more then 1000 data's but there is no use for Future! every mint is new. evevry moment is new. so use rules and drive the astro car! done see the road behaind u while driving! You told in you posting that diffrent astrologer wil get diffrent asnwer if they used RBT based on RP. i feel this is wrong. if we use RP in right way then it give same result for every one. in my experiance RP gives more result compare to Natal and horary chart.(i am prediction only with RP without using Natal and horary) Ok then teach us right way for RBT and we done one experiment, we memebrs in this group do at one this RP and lets look what heppan.befer two three seniore KP astrologer done this expriment and always found that reselt was deffernt, even we(Raichurji, Kuppuji, me and Tinwin ji do one experiment about Horary and we got defferance result) We studied in diffrent way and our way of approch is diffrent. even though doctors having same medical thoery but theier school of thought becom diffrent so the result is diffrent. for making confidence that i am ready for a contest. i wil give true horary Q for my 5 students in diffrent time and diffrent day. my students wil tell right result. i having confidence on them. i already checked verious time too. Unfortunatly KSK can't able to give more information about RBT in his Readers and his mag. but others after his life time (affter 20yrs) they published the books about RBT. that's not much useful for KP astrologer. becoz in same book they used verious techqune and all failure methodolgy.simple i can tell pls avoid that books. in other forum i already posted how to do RBT based on RP. if people intrested i can also do same and possible i wil give direct demo in CHAT session. I know your intrest on only in chat session whay dont we discuss in group by mail? send your work i will do same at my place and lets try to look about result. i already done this thoery in another forum. if needed i wil post again. i feel if i post anything in this forum people can read only after 10 days becoz of moduration. if any people intrested then i can Rectifiy the birth for one or 2 charts and explain how it done. i always use RP for RBT. i never get past events from native. i belive RP 100% so it giving more result to me. Here is Data and please do rectification. Male date of Birth: 25th JUNE 1954 Place of Bierth:Chake Chake-Tanzania Time of Birth: 7.55 am to 8.00 am. i am eagrly waiting for your rectification and mention Asc and MOON position for my checking. Surly i wil do wait for a day! Rergards kanak Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Messenger with Voice. 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