Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Friends, Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh Gupta ji's mail, I am banning his id from this group. He can no longer participate in this groups activity. I don't remember I have banned anybody in the past in this forum and hence it was really tough decision for me. Hope it will restore the learning environment in this forum and also bring Kanak ji back. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Punitji, I am very happy that you finally exercised your privelege as the owner/moderator of the group.Congrats!! As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain times surgical procedures are necessary to stop the disease from spreading. I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for all the members to behave like mature adults in inter-personal dealings. Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to rejoin the group and continue his research activities for common benefit. Best Wishes. Satish , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh Gupta ji's mail, I am > banning his id from this group. He can no longer participate in this groups > activity. > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the past in this forum and hence > it was really tough decision for me. > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in this forum and also bring > Kanak ji back. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Punit ji, I think it's easy if " hitting below the belt, out from the group " is clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal attack without sticking to the issue discussed like character assassination or out of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood should be taken out if it becomes so bad. Thanks and regards, tw , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear Punitji, > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your privelege as the > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats!! > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain times surgical > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from spreading. > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for all the members > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal dealings. > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to rejoin the group and > continue his research activities for common benefit. > > Best Wishes. > > Satish > > > > > > , " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh Gupta ji's mail, I am > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer participate in > this groups > > activity. > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the past in this forum > and hence > > it was really tough decision for me. > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in this forum and > also bring > > Kanak ji back. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 DEAR MODERARATOR, I REQUEST YOU TO reconsider your decision to ban a member from group. All we should behave like a family member where not all the five fingers are equal. There may be difference in opinion- and it helps to arrive at a conclusion which becomes the seed for a new invention/discovery. If, Gupta ji learnt something new from any source why we should not take its advantage if open minded. When Guru KSK discovered the method of sub theory, he have faced many problems and criticism from the traditionalists. They harmed enogh to this divine science. B. V. Raman faced criticism for similar type of case. What we learnt from that- it yield nothing. So, I request if somebody have a belief in other aspect of the theory, we shouldn't throw him out but listen what actually he want to say. If KSK would have with us, he had definetely modified his theories by his researches. Sub theory shouldn't be constant/stagnant but it should continue/flow to find new horizon where actually this was once a time in vedic era. Allow Gupta ji to continue sharing his views on the subject, if don't mind anything else... this is my humble request sir. Thanks & Regards D K Bhaskar --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Punit ji, > > I think it's easy if " hitting below the belt, out > from the group " is > clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal > attack without > sticking to the issue discussed like character > assassination or out > of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood > should be taken > out if it becomes so bad. > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > , " R Satish " > <rsatish1942 > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punitji, > > > > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your > privelege as the > > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats!! > > > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain > times surgical > > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from > spreading. > > > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for > all the members > > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal > dealings. > > > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to > rejoin the group > and > > continue his research activities for common > benefit. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Punit Pandey " > <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh > Gupta ji's mail, I > am > > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer > participate in > > this groups > > > activity. > > > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the > past in this forum > > and hence > > > it was really tough decision for me. > > > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in > this forum and > > also bring > > > Kanak ji back. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Punitji, Thanks for ur bold decision. We are here to help each other and also develop our knowledge about KP through healthy discussion. Pl take bold decision against those who wants to fight, misbehaves and disrespect with the group members in the future also. Thanks a lot. With regards, Abhijit Lahiri.Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Dear Friends, Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh Gupta ji's mail, I am banning his id from this group. He can no longer participate in this groups activity. I don't remember I have banned anybody in the past in this forum and hence it was really tough decision for me. Hope it will restore the learning environment in this forum and also bring Kanak ji back. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear All, Discuss what is wrong and not who is wrong is a good ideal to follow and would help personality based conflicts. Negative allusions to personalities should be avoided, in any case. Seshadri the person would be a good -- In , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Punit ji, > > I think it's easy if " hitting below the belt, out from the group " is > clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal attack without > sticking to the issue discussed like character assassination or out > of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood should be taken > out if it becomes so bad. > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punitji, > > > > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your privelege as the > > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats!! > > > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain times surgical > > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from spreading. > > > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for all the members > > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal dealings. > > > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to rejoin the group > and > > continue his research activities for common benefit. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh Gupta ji's mail, I > am > > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer participate in > > this groups > > > activity. > > > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the past in this forum > > and hence > > > it was really tough decision for me. > > > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in this forum and > > also bring > > > Kanak ji back. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dharmdendra ji, Mukesh Gupta ji's id has not been banned because the forum is not open for the new ideas, but because of the general consensus in this forum that whatever he had written was not correct. I believe that language used to convey the idea is also very much important and can not be ignored. As a moderator, my job is to listen to the members and act according to that in such situations. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 9/16/06, Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: DEAR MODERARATOR,I REQUEST YOU TO reconsider your decision to ban amember from group. All we should behave like a familymember where not all the five fingers are equal. Theremay be difference in opinion- and it helps to arrive at a conclusion which becomes the seed for a newinvention/discovery.If, Gupta ji learnt something new from any source whywe should not take its advantage if open minded. WhenGuru KSK discovered the method of sub theory, he have faced many problems and criticism from thetraditionalists. They harmed enogh to this divinescience. B. V. Raman faced criticism for similar typeof case. What we learnt from that- it yield nothing.So, I request if somebody have a belief in other aspect of the theory, we shouldn't throw him out butlisten what actually he want to say. If KSK would have with us, he had definetely modifiedhis theories by his researches. Sub theory shouldn'tbe constant/stagnant but it should continue/flow to find new horizon where actually this was once a timein vedic era.Allow Gupta ji to continue sharing his views on thesubject, if don't mind anything else... this is myhumble request sir.Thanks & Regards D K Bhaskar --- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Punit ji, > > I think it's easy if " hitting below the belt, out> from the group " is > clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal> attack without > sticking to the issue discussed like character > assassination or out > of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood> should be taken > out if it becomes so bad.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , " R Satish " > <rsatish1942 > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Punitji,> > > > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your> privelege as the > > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats !!> > > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain> times surgical > > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from> spreading.> > > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for > all the members > > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal> dealings.> > > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to> rejoin the group > and > > continue his research activities for common > benefit.> > > > Best Wishes.> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Punit Pandey " > <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh> Gupta ji's mail, I > am> > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer > participate in > > this groups> > > activity.> > > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the> past in this forum > > and hence> > > it was really tough decision for me. > > > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in> this forum and > > also bring> > > Kanak ji back.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey> > >> >> > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I agree to Mr Bhaskar.<scholar>Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Dharmdendra ji, Mukesh Gupta ji's id has not been banned because the forum is not open for the new ideas, but because of the general consensus in this forum that whatever he had written was not correct. I believe that language used to convey the idea is also very much important and can not be ignored. As a moderator, my job is to listen to the members and act according to that in such situations. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 9/16/06, Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: DEAR MODERARATOR,I REQUEST YOU TO reconsider your decision to ban amember from group. All we should behave like a familymember where not all the five fingers are equal. Theremay be difference in opinion- and it helps to arrive at a conclusion which becomes the seed for a newinvention/discovery.If, Gupta ji learnt something new from any source whywe should not take its advantage if open minded. WhenGuru KSK discovered the method of sub theory, he have faced many problems and criticism from thetraditionalists. They harmed enogh to this divinescience. B. V. Raman faced criticism for similar typeof case. What we learnt from that- it yield nothing.So, I request if somebody have a belief in other aspect of the theory, we shouldn't throw him out butlisten what actually he want to say. If KSK would have with us, he had definetely modifiedhis theories by his researches. Sub theory shouldn'tbe constant/stagnant but it should continue/flow to find new horizon where actually this was once a timein vedic era.Allow Gupta ji to continue sharing his views on thesubject, if don't mind anything else... this is myhumble request sir.Thanks & Regards D K Bhaskar --- tw853 <tw853 > wrote:> Dear Punit ji, > > I think it's easy if "hitting below the belt, out> from the group" is > clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal> attack without > sticking to the issue discussed like character > assassination or out > of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood> should be taken > out if it becomes so bad.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , "R Satish"> <rsatish1942 > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Punitji,> > > > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your> privelege as the > > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats !!> > > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain> times surgical > > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from> spreading.> > > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for > all the members > > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal> dealings.> > > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to> rejoin the group > and > > continue his research activities for common > benefit.> > > > Best Wishes.> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Punit Pandey" > <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh> Gupta ji's mail, I > am> > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer > participate in > > this groups> > > activity.> > > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the> past in this forum > > and hence> > > it was really tough decision for me. > > > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in> this forum and > > also bring> > > Kanak ji back.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey> > >> >> > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./ Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Dear Bhaskar This group has no problems re new ideas on LP, as long as one does not impute personal motives to the person, opposing it, or favouring it. The discussion should be on yhe ideas, not persons. When some one starts this it leads to animosity bewteen the members, and then the whole spirit of dicussion is lost. The language used has to be moderate, and respectful I,personally, beleive the moderator has done the correct thing Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: DEAR MODERARATOR,I REQUEST YOU TO reconsider your decision to ban amember from group. All we should behave like a familymember where not all the five fingers are equal. Theremay be difference in opinion- and it helps to arriveat a conclusion which becomes the seed for a newinvention/discovery.If, Gupta ji learnt something new from any source whywe should not take its advantage if open minded. WhenGuru KSK discovered the method of sub theory, he havefaced many problems and criticism from thetraditionalists. They harmed enogh to this divinescience. B. V. Raman faced criticism for similar typeof case. What we learnt from that- it yield nothing.So, I request if somebody have a belief in otheraspect of the theory, we shouldn't throw him out butlisten what actually he want to say. If KSK would have with us, he had definetely modifiedhis theories by his researches. Sub theory shouldn'tbe constant/stagnant but it should continue/flow tofind new horizon where actually this was once a timein vedic era.Allow Gupta ji to continue sharing his views on thesubject, if don't mind anything else... this is myhumble request sir.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar--- tw853 <tw853 > wrote:> Dear Punit ji,> > I think it's easy if "hitting below the belt, out> from the group" is > clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal> attack without > sticking to the issue discussed like character> assassination or out > of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood> should be taken > out if it becomes so bad.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , "R Satish"> <rsatish1942 > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Punitji,> > > > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your> privelege as the > > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats!!> > > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain> times surgical > > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from> spreading.> > > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for> all the members > > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal> dealings.> > > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to> rejoin the group > and > > continue his research activities for common> benefit.> > > > Best Wishes.> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Punit Pandey"> <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh> Gupta ji's mail, I > am> > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer> participate in > > this groups> > > activity.> > > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the> past in this forum > > and hence> > > it was really tough decision for me.> > > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in> this forum and > > also bring> > > Kanak ji back.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Punit Pandey> > >> >> > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./Good LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609 Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Dear Friends, It is important that every individual carefully weighs group interest over personal stance. It is part of group dynamics and one should be sensitive and respectful to it. It could sometimes mean giving up your line after you have made your point and close the chapter in the interest of the group environment. This group has faced quite a few crisis which have ended up taking too much time and energy of members to sort it out. So the basic question should always be " Am I causing too much distress to the group " as the guideline where to set limit to oneself. These are my general views. Frankly I have saved my self from getting into the details of the controvery to get into a judgemental cap, but my point is if there is a group view emerging, then that is something to take note of. My 2 cents Seshadri -- In , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dharmdendra ji, > > Mukesh Gupta ji's id has not been banned because the forum is not open for > the new ideas, but because of the general consensus in this forum that > whatever he had written was not correct. I believe that language used to > convey the idea is also very much important and can not be ignored. > > As a moderator, my job is to listen to the members and act according to that > in such situations. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On 9/16/06, Dharmendra Bhaskar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: > > > > DEAR MODERARATOR, > > I REQUEST YOU TO reconsider your decision to ban a > > member from group. All we should behave like a family > > member where not all the five fingers are equal. There > > may be difference in opinion- and it helps to arrive > > at a conclusion which becomes the seed for a new > > invention/discovery. > > > > If, Gupta ji learnt something new from any source why > > we should not take its advantage if open minded. When > > Guru KSK discovered the method of sub theory, he have > > faced many problems and criticism from the > > traditionalists. They harmed enogh to this divine > > science. B. V. Raman faced criticism for similar type > > of case. What we learnt from that- it yield nothing. > > So, I request if somebody have a belief in other > > aspect of the theory, we shouldn't throw him out but > > listen what actually he want to say. > > If KSK would have with us, he had definetely modified > > his theories by his researches. Sub theory shouldn't > > be constant/stagnant but it should continue/flow to > > find new horizon where actually this was once a time > > in vedic era. > > Allow Gupta ji to continue sharing his views on the > > subject, if don't mind anything else... this is my > > humble request sir. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > D K Bhaskar > > > > > > --- tw853 <tw853 <tw853%40>> wrote: > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > I think it's easy if " hitting below the belt, out > > > from the group " is > > > clearly added to the group policy, ie. personal > > > attack without > > > sticking to the issue discussed like character > > > assassination or out > > > of class expression is intolerable. Even own blood > > > should be taken > > > out if it becomes so bad. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, " R > > Satish " > > > <rsatish1942@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy that you finally exercised your > > > privelege as the > > > > owner/moderator of the group.Congrats!! > > > > > > > > As I had mentioned to you in my mail, certain > > > times surgical > > > > procedures are necessary to stop the disease from > > > spreading. > > > > > > > > I trust this becomes a pathbreaker/reminder for > > > all the members > > > > to behave like mature adults in inter-personal > > > dealings. > > > > > > > > Now I hope Kanakhbhai, will be gracious to > > > rejoin the group > > > and > > > > continue his research activities for common > > > benefit. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " Punit Pandey " > > > <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Based on the complaints I received for Mukesh > > > Gupta ji's mail, I > > > am > > > > > banning his id from this group. He can no longer > > > participate in > > > > this groups > > > > > activity. > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember I have banned anybody in the > > > past in this forum > > > > and hence > > > > > it was really tough decision for me. > > > > > > > > > > Hope it will restore the learning environment in > > > this forum and > > > > also bring > > > > > Kanak ji back. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > > http://in.answers./ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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