Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 My Rectification Technique. I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon. we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub. conection means only with sub wise or star wise.(the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..)Dont use Aspects or sign connection. following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me.I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....! Swami Omkarwww.pranavapeeta.org '----------RBT--------------------Dear Swamiji I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list.To rectify by RP we :1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyiedhoroscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC).We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W5415S47)3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled byMoon also, this level is ok, no correction3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we needto verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn:Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of KetuSaturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus**No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star ofJup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on thesecond level3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub insidethe next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connectionbetween Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturnbeginning with sub of Saturn the first.Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venussub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectificationshould be applied to the sub of SatunThe final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and Saturn sub.Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should weconsider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign andJup is in Moon star? swami : You are right. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Swami Ji, Thanks for sharing a method for the Birth Time Rectification. I have taken an example as an exercise and wrote to you privately. Once I get the feedback from you. Then I will post that in the list, so that my fellow students can see step by step on this method and evaluate this method's accuracy. Please reply to my e-mail along with any corrections to the example chart, when you get a chance. Regards Raghunatha Rao , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: > > My Rectification Technique. > > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon. > > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub. > > conection means only with sub wise or star wise. > (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..) > Dont use Aspects or sign connection. > > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me. > I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....! > > Swami Omkar > www.pranavapeeta.org > > '----------RBT-------------------- > Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list. > To rectify by RP we : > 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied > horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC). > We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and > 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47 > Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub > 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54 > 15S47) > 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub > 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by > Moon also, this level is ok, no correction > 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need > to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn: > Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu > Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus > **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of > Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the > second level > 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside > the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection > between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn > beginning with sub of Saturn the first. > Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus > sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification > should be applied to the sub of Satun > The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub. > Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we > consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and > Jup is in Moon star? > > swami : You are right. > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Dear Swami Onkar Thanks for explaining your system. In fact, I have been using the MOON and ASC of the chart, and checking the connection between them, not aspects, in the chart. If a connection exists, I take is that the time is acceptable. I have not used this for correction. You have now given any method for correction. good luck swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: My Rectification Technique. I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon. we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub. conection means only with sub wise or star wise.(the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..)Dont use Aspects or sign connection. following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me.I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....! Swami Omkarwww.pranavapeeta.org '----------RBT--------------------Dear Swamiji I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list.To rectify by RP we :1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyiedhoroscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC).We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W5415S47)3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled byMoon also, this level is ok, no correction3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we needto verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn:Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of KetuSaturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus**No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star ofJup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on thesecond level3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub insidethe next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connectionbetween Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturnbeginning with sub of Saturn the first.Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venussub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectificationshould be applied to the sub of SatunThe final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and Saturn sub.Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should weconsider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign andJup is in Moon star? swami : You are right. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Dear Swami Omkar, Thank you for your improved method.Some more worked examples to cover variety of situations over next few weeks will consolidate . Regards, Satish , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Swami Onkar > Thanks for explaining your system. In fact, I have been using the > MOON and ASC of the chart, and checking the connection between them, not aspects, in the chart. If a connection exists, I take is that the time is acceptable. I have not used this for correction. You have now given any method for correction. > good luck > > > swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: > My Rectification Technique. > > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon. > > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub. > > conection means only with sub wise or star wise. > (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..) > Dont use Aspects or sign connection. > > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me. > I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....! > > Swami Omkar > www.pranavapeeta.org > > '----------RBT-------------------- > Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list. > To rectify by RP we : > 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied > horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC). > We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and > 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47 > Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub > 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54 > 15S47) > 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub > 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by > Moon also, this level is ok, no correction > 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need > to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn: > Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu > Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus > **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of > Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the > second level > 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside > the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection > between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn > beginning with sub of Saturn the first. > Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus > sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification > should be applied to the sub of Satun > The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub. > Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we > consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and > Jup is in Moon star? > > swami : You are right. > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Dear Swamiji & List, This is my attempt to follow the RBT method presented by SWAMIJI and example provided by Raghunath Raoji. I am student and beginner in Astrology. One and all, please provide your feedback. Methodological approach in RBT 1) The natal Chart details are:- December 9, 1961 Time: 16:30 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 80 E 09' 00 " , 17 N 15' 00 " Rising Degree 8 Ta 35 52 Ven sign, Sun Star, Ven sub. -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |XII 4 0 15|Asc. 8 35 52|II 5 7 55| | | |For 27 36 53| | | | | | | -------------------------------- | | | | | | SATURDAY 9 12 1961 | | | | Time 16 30 | | |X1 28 54 7| |III 0 19 1| | | SID.TIME 21 h. 32 m. 24 s. |IV 27 28 10| | | |Rahu 27 58 28| | | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | | | | | | :---------------| PLACE:INDIA |---------------| | | | | |Ketu 27 58 28| LAT 17 deg 15 min N | | |X 27 28 10| | | |Jup 12 30 25| Long 80 deg 9 min E |Uran-R 7 18 7| |Sat 4 1 53| |Plut 16 53 13| |IX 0 19 1| Ayan 23 d. 14 m. 7 s. |V 28 54 7| | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- | | | | | | |Mars 25 22 36| | | |Moon 12 55 54|Sun 23 54 53|Nept 19 5 1| | |VIII 5 7 55|Merc 20 6 11|VI 4 0 15| | | |Ven 12 11 9| | | | |VII 8 35 52| | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- DASA BAL. Ketu 0 Y. 77 Days ENDS ON 24 2 1962 BHK. Bal. Merc 0 Y. 77 Days: ANT. Bal. Jup. 19 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 3 Days CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL ASC Ven Sun Ven Rah :SUN. Mar Mer Mar Ven 2nd Mer Mar Sun Jup :MOON Jup Ket Mer Jup 3rd Moo Jup Moo Ven :MARS Mar Mer Rah Ket 4th Moo Mer Jup Moo :MERC Mar Mer Ven Mar 5th Sun Sun Mar Mer :JUP. Sat Moo Rah Sat 6th Ven Mar Ven Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Mar Rah 7th Mar Sat Ven Moo :SAT. Sat Sun Sat Ven 8th Jup Ket Mar Sat :RAHU Moo Mer Sat Sat 9th Sat Sun Rah Mer :KETU Sat Mar Sat Sat 10th Sat Mar Jup Moo :URAN-R Sun Ket Rah Moo 11th Sat Jup Sun Mar :NEPT Ven Rah Moo Ven 12th Mar Ket Moo Jup :FOR. Ven Mar Jup Mar :PLUT Sun Ven Moo Mer 2) The judgement chart details:- September 14, 2006 Time: 14:40:00 Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 118 W 10', 34 N 9' ============ ========= === DASA BAL. Mars 1 Y. 280 Days ENDS ON 21 6 2008 BHK. Bal. Ven. 0 Y. 304 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 6 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 4 Days HOR.NO : 93 : Asc.for RP 249 Deg 26 Min LORDS : Jup,Ket,Sat,Sat Moon Degrees 3 Cn 17 58 CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL ASC Sun Ven Ven Ven :SUN. Sun Sun Moo Mer 2nd Mer Sun Ven Rah :MOON Mer Mar Ven Moo 3rd Ven Rah Rah Moo :MARS Mer Moo Moo Sat 4th Mar Sat Sun Ven :MERC Mer Sun Ven Mer 5th Jup Ven Ven Moo :JUP. Ven Jup Jup Rah 6th Sat Moo Jup Ven :VEN. Sun Ven Moo Sat 7th Sat Rah Mer Sun :SAT. Moo Mer Rah Sun 8th Jup Sat Ven Moo :RAHU Jup Jup Rah Rah 9th Mar Ket Jup Ket :KETU Mer Sun Jup Sat 10th Ven Moo Moo Ven :URAN-R Sat Rah Moo Jup 11th Mer Rah Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sat Mar Mar Sat 12th Moo Sat Jup Jup :FOR. Ven Moo Mer Sun :PLUT Jup Ket Ket Moo -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | |VIII 8 45 25| | | | |Rahu 1 31 51| | | | | |IX 8 23 13|X 10 57 34|Moon 3 17 58| | | |For 18 33 42|X1 13 54 59| | | | | | -------------------------------- | | NAME:RBT judgement time | | | | THURSDAY 14 9 2006 | | |Uran-R 18 30 11| Time 14 40 | | |VII 13 20 0| | | | | SID.TIME 13 h. 22 m. 13 s. |XII 15 1 37| | | |Sat 25 44 47| | | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | | | | | | :---------------| PLACE:USA USA |---------------| | | | | | | LAT 34 deg 9 min N | | |Nept-R 23 41 26| | | |VI 15 1 37| Long 118 deg 10 min W |Asc. 13 20 0| | | |Ven 16 50 33| | | Ayan 23 d. 51 m. 37 s. |Sun 28 4 16| | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | |V 13 54 59| |Jup 21 43 57|Ketu 1 31 51| |Plut 0 13 49|IV 10 57 34|III 8 23 13|II 8 45 25| | | | |Merc 9 34 52| | | | |Mars 10 29 40| | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- ============ ========= === 3) Let us fill the following planets from the above:- ============ ========= ===== Planet / Sign Star Sub Lagna Lord Lord Lord ============ ========= ===== Ascendant Ven Sun Ven ------------ --------- --------- ------- RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven ============ ========= ===== 4) The first check is the R.P-Moon's Sign lord is Mer, which is not matching with Asc's Sign Lord Ven. But, Ven is sublord of Mer. So there is no correction required at this level. 5) The second check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Star Lord Mer is not same as Asc Star Lord Ven. So now we have to see for any connection between Ven and Mer in the Ruling Planet Chart. But, Ven is Sub Lord of Mer. 6) The third and last check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Sub Lord Sat Ven is same as Asc's Sub Lord. It is Venus. Does this chart need the birth time rectification done? If so how to proceed further? A few events for verification: Birth of Younger Sibling 22 Dec 1965 Death of Father 24 Jun 1974 Death of Mother 04 Jul 1976 Post Graduate Degree in Physics Job Type: Computer Software Married 24 Feb 1989 1:50am No Extra Marital affairs yet Travel Oversees first time 26 Jun 1991 Children: Jul 1991, Feb 1994, Jan 1998 Overseas Citizenship 24 Jun 2004 Regards, Krishna , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: > > My Rectification Technique. > > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon. > > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub. > > conection means only with sub wise or star wise. > (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..) > Dont use Aspects or sign connection. > > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me. > I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....! > > Swami Omkar > www.pranavapeeta.org > > '----------RBT-------------------- > Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list. > To rectify by RP we : > 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied > horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC). > We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and > 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47 > Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub > 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54 > 15S47) > 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub > 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by > Moon also, this level is ok, no correction > 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need > to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn: > Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu > Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus > **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of > Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the > second level > 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside > the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection > between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn > beginning with sub of Saturn the first. > Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus > sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification > should be applied to the sub of Satun > The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub. > Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we > consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and > Jup is in Moon star? > > swami : You are right. > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Krishna, Your way of approach and logic is right. but you want to go little deeper. sign level only you done. star and sub level you want to done more. In your example you showed like this Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven 1) Sign level connection: one that judgment day Ven in mercury star. answer is . sign is correct 2) Star level connection: Mars and Sun both in moon sub. so mars and sun connected through moon. 3) Sub level connection: Ven directly matched as Ven No more rectification needed. Note for other members: Some people told this method of checking like birth asc to RP moon is theory of baskaran. but still I don’t know about what mr.baskaran using in his theory. basically I want to explain the truth behind this theory. in some KP books we can see, without seeing the horoscope with help of RP KSK or other astrologer will tell the birth star of a person. this example are good while reading, when we started to use it will give lot of problem. in my practice I got the logic is asc is connected with birth moon and birth moon is connected with RP asc. Vis-versa. in 6 readers some place also we can see this theory( I hope tinwinji will help us to find the pages) . So finally I want to express that, “this theory based on KSK only not based on Swami Omkar or any others”. Swami Omkar gdplus1 <gdplus1 wrote: Dear Swamiji & List,This is my attempt to follow the RBT method presented by SWAMIJI and example provided by Raghunath Raoji.I am student and beginner in Astrology. One and all, please provide your feedback.Methodological approach in RBT1) The natal Chart details are:-December 9, 1961Time: 16:30Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 09' 00", 17 N 15' 00"Rising Degree 8 Ta 35 52 Ven sign, Sun Star, Ven sub.-------------------------| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || |XII 4 0 15|Asc. 8 35 52|II 5 7 55|| | |For 27 36 53| || | | | |-------------------------| | | || | SATURDAY 9 12 1961 | || | Time 16 30 | ||X1 28 54 7| |III 0 19 1|| | SID.TIME 21 h. 32 m. 24 s. |IV 27 28 10|| | |Rahu 27 58 28|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:INDIA |---------------|| | | ||Ketu 27 58 28| LAT 17 deg 15 min N | ||X 27 28 10| | ||Jup 12 30 25| Long 80 deg 9 min E |Uran-R 7 18 7||Sat 4 1 53| |Plut 16 53 13||IX 0 19 1| Ayan 23 d. 14 m. 7 s. |V 28 54 7|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || |Mars 25 22 36| | ||Moon 12 55 54|Sun 23 54 53|Nept 19 5 1| ||VIII 5 7 55|Merc 20 6 11|VI 4 0 15| || |Ven 12 11 9| | || |VII 8 35 52| | || | | | || | | | |-------------------------DASA BAL. Ketu 0 Y. 77 Days ENDS ON 24 2 1962BHK. Bal. Merc 0 Y. 77 Days: ANT. Bal. Jup. 19 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Ven Sun Ven Rah :SUN. Mar Mer Mar Ven 2nd Mer Mar Sun Jup :MOON Jup Ket Mer Jup 3rd Moo Jup Moo Ven :MARS Mar Mer Rah Ket 4th Moo Mer Jup Moo :MERC Mar Mer Ven Mar 5th Sun Sun Mar Mer :JUP. Sat Moo Rah Sat 6th Ven Mar Ven Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Mar Rah 7th Mar Sat Ven Moo :SAT. Sat Sun Sat Ven 8th Jup Ket Mar Sat :RAHU Moo Mer Sat Sat 9th Sat Sun Rah Mer :KETU Sat Mar Sat Sat 10th Sat Mar Jup Moo :URAN-R Sun Ket Rah Moo 11th Sat Jup Sun Mar :NEPT Ven Rah Moo Ven 12th Mar Ket Moo Jup :FOR. Ven Mar Jup Mar :PLUT Sun Ven Moo Mer 2) The judgement chart details:-September 14, 2006Time: 14:40:00Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 118 W 10', 34 N 9' ============ ========= ===DASA BAL. Mars 1 Y. 280 Days ENDS ON 21 6 2008BHK. Bal. Ven. 0 Y. 304 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 6 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 4 DaysHOR.NO : 93 : Asc.for RP 249 Deg 26 MinLORDS : Jup,Ket,Sat,SatMoon Degrees 3 Cn 17 58CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Sun Ven Ven Ven :SUN. Sun Sun Moo Mer 2nd Mer Sun Ven Rah :MOON Mer Mar Ven Moo 3rd Ven Rah Rah Moo :MARS Mer Moo Moo Sat 4th Mar Sat Sun Ven :MERC Mer Sun Ven Mer 5th Jup Ven Ven Moo :JUP. Ven Jup Jup Rah 6th Sat Moo Jup Ven :VEN. Sun Ven Moo Sat 7th Sat Rah Mer Sun :SAT. Moo Mer Rah Sun 8th Jup Sat Ven Moo :RAHU Jup Jup Rah Rah 9th Mar Ket Jup Ket :KETU Mer Sun Jup Sat 10th Ven Moo Moo Ven :URAN-R Sat Rah Moo Jup 11th Mer Rah Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sat Mar Mar Sat 12th Moo Sat Jup Jup :FOR. Ven Moo Mer Sun :PLUT Jup Ket Ket Moo -------------------------| | | | || | | | ||VIII 8 45 25| | | ||Rahu 1 31 51| | | || |IX 8 23 13|X 10 57 34|Moon 3 17 58|| | |For 18 33 42|X1 13 54 59|| | | | |-------------------------| | NAME:RBT judgement time | || | THURSDAY 14 9 2006 | ||Uran-R 18 30 11| Time 14 40 | ||VII 13 20 0| | || | SID.TIME 13 h. 22 m. 13 s. |XII 15 1 37|| | |Sat 25 44 47|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:USA USA |---------------|| | | || | LAT 34 deg 9 min N | ||Nept-R 23 41 26| | ||VI 15 1 37| Long 118 deg 10 min W |Asc. 13 20 0|| | |Ven 16 50 33|| | Ayan 23 d. 51 m. 37 s. |Sun 28 4 16|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || | | | ||V 13 54 59| |Jup 21 43 57|Ketu 1 31 51||Plut 0 13 49|IV 10 57 34|III 8 23 13|II 8 45 25|| | | |Merc 9 34 52|| | | |Mars 10 29 40|| | | | || | | | |-------------------------============ ========= ===3) Let us fill the following planets from the above:-============ ========= =====Planet / Sign Star SubLagna Lord Lord Lord============ ========= =====Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven============ ========= =====4) The first check is the R.P-Moon's Sign lord is Mer, which is not matching with Asc's Sign Lord Ven. But, Ven is sublord of Mer. So there is no correction required at this level. 5) The second check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Star Lord Mer is not same as Asc Star Lord Ven. So now we have to see for any connection between Ven and Mer in the Ruling Planet Chart. But, Ven is Sub Lord of Mer.6) The third and last check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Sub Lord Sat Ven is same as Asc's Sub Lord. It is Venus.Does this chart need the birth time rectification done?If so how to proceed further?A few events for verification:Birth of Younger Sibling 22 Dec 1965Death of Father 24 Jun 1974Death of Mother 04 Jul 1976Post Graduate Degree in PhysicsJob Type: Computer SoftwareMarried 24 Feb 1989 1:50amNo Extra Marital affairs yetTravel Oversees first time 26 Jun 1991Children: Jul 1991, Feb 1994, Jan 1998Overseas Citizenship 24 Jun 2004Regards,Krishna , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote:>> My Rectification Technique.> > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon.> > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub.> > conection means only with sub wise or star wise.> (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..)> Dont use Aspects or sign connection.> > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me.> I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....!> > Swami Omkar> www.pranavapeeta.org> > '----------RBT--------------------> Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list.> To rectify by RP we :> 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied> horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC).> We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and> 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47> Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub> 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54> 15S47)> 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub> 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by> Moon also, this level is ok, no correction> 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need> to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn:> Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu> Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus> **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of> Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the> second level> 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside> the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection> between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn> beginning with sub of Saturn the first.> Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus> sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification> should be applied to the sub of Satun> The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub.> Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we> consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and> Jup is in Moon star?> > swami : You are right.> > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Shri Swami Omkar, Thank You for the feedback. I hurriedly wrote the judgement message and failed to write the point number 2 i.e., Mars and Sun both in Moon Sub. Thank you for confirming the chart does not need birth time rectification. Regards, Krishna swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: Dear Krishna, Your way of approach and logic is right. but you want to go little deeper. sign level only you done. star and sub level you want to done more. In your example you showed like this Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven 1) Sign level connection: one that judgment day Ven in mercury star. answer is . sign is correct 2) Star level connection: Mars and Sun both in moon sub. so mars and sun connected through moon. 3) Sub level connection: Ven directly matched as Ven No more rectification needed. Note for other members: Some people told this method of checking like birth asc to RP moon is theory of baskaran. but still I don’t know about what mr.baskaran using in his theory. basically I want to explain the truth behind this theory. in some KP books we can see, without seeing the horoscope with help of RP KSK or other astrologer will tell the birth star of a person. this example are good while reading, when we started to use it will give lot of problem. in my practice I got the logic is asc is connected with birth moon and birth moon is connected with RP asc. Vis-versa. in 6 readers some place also we can see this theory( I hope tinwinji will help us to find the pages) . So finally I want to express that, “this theory based on KSK only not based on Swami Omkar or any others”. Swami Omkar gdplus1 <gdplus1 wrote: Dear Swamiji & List,This is my attempt to follow the RBT method presented by SWAMIJI and example provided by Raghunath Raoji.I am student and beginner in Astrology. One and all, please provide your feedback.Methodological approach in RBT1) The natal Chart details are:-December 9, 1961Time: 16:30Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 09' 00", 17 N 15' 00"Rising Degree 8 Ta 35 52 Ven sign, Sun Star, Ven sub.-------------------------| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || |XII 4 0 15|Asc. 8 35 52|II 5 7 55|| | |For 27 36 53| || | | | |-------------------------| | | || | SATURDAY 9 12 1961 | || | Time 16 30 | ||X1 28 54 7| |III 0 19 1|| | SID.TIME 21 h. 32 m. 24 s. |IV 27 28 10|| | |Rahu 27 58 28|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:INDIA |---------------|| | | ||Ketu 27 58 28| LAT 17 deg 15 min N | ||X 27 28 10| | ||Jup 12 30 25| Long 80 deg 9 min E |Uran-R 7 18 7||Sat 4 1 53| |Plut 16 53 13||IX 0 19 1| Ayan 23 d. 14 m. 7 s. |V 28 54 7|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || |Mars 25 22 36| | ||Moon 12 55 54|Sun 23 54 53|Nept 19 5 1| ||VIII 5 7 55|Merc 20 6 11|VI 4 0 15| || |Ven 12 11 9| | || |VII 8 35 52| | || | | | || | | | |-------------------------DASA BAL. Ketu 0 Y. 77 Days ENDS ON 24 2 1962BHK. Bal. Merc 0 Y. 77 Days: ANT. Bal. Jup. 19 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Ven Sun Ven Rah :SUN. Mar Mer Mar Ven 2nd Mer Mar Sun Jup :MOON Jup Ket Mer Jup 3rd Moo Jup Moo Ven :MARS Mar Mer Rah Ket 4th Moo Mer Jup Moo :MERC Mar Mer Ven Mar 5th Sun Sun Mar Mer :JUP. Sat Moo Rah Sat 6th Ven Mar Ven Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Mar Rah 7th Mar Sat Ven Moo :SAT. Sat Sun Sat Ven 8th Jup Ket Mar Sat :RAHU Moo Mer Sat Sat 9th Sat Sun Rah Mer :KETU Sat Mar Sat Sat 10th Sat Mar Jup Moo :URAN-R Sun Ket Rah Moo 11th Sat Jup Sun Mar :NEPT Ven Rah Moo Ven 12th Mar Ket Moo Jup :FOR. Ven Mar Jup Mar :PLUT Sun Ven Moo Mer 2) The judgement chart details:-September 14, 2006Time: 14:40:00Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 118 W 10', 34 N 9' ============ ========= ===DASA BAL. Mars 1 Y. 280 Days ENDS ON 21 6 2008BHK. Bal. Ven. 0 Y. 304 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 6 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 4 DaysHOR.NO : 93 : Asc.for RP 249 Deg 26 MinLORDS : Jup,Ket,Sat,SatMoon Degrees 3 Cn 17 58CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Sun Ven Ven Ven :SUN. Sun Sun Moo Mer 2nd Mer Sun Ven Rah :MOON Mer Mar Ven Moo 3rd Ven Rah Rah Moo :MARS Mer Moo Moo Sat 4th Mar Sat Sun Ven :MERC Mer Sun Ven Mer 5th Jup Ven Ven Moo :JUP. Ven Jup Jup Rah 6th Sat Moo Jup Ven :VEN. Sun Ven Moo Sat 7th Sat Rah Mer Sun :SAT. Moo Mer Rah Sun 8th Jup Sat Ven Moo :RAHU Jup Jup Rah Rah 9th Mar Ket Jup Ket :KETU Mer Sun Jup Sat 10th Ven Moo Moo Ven :URAN-R Sat Rah Moo Jup 11th Mer Rah Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sat Mar Mar Sat 12th Moo Sat Jup Jup :FOR. Ven Moo Mer Sun :PLUT Jup Ket Ket Moo -------------------------| | | | || | | | ||VIII 8 45 25| | | ||Rahu 1 31 51| | | || |IX 8 23 13|X 10 57 34|Moon 3 17 58|| | |For 18 33 42|X1 13 54 59|| | | | |-------------------------| | NAME:RBT judgement time | || | THURSDAY 14 9 2006 | ||Uran-R 18 30 11| Time 14 40 | ||VII 13 20 0| | || | SID.TIME 13 h. 22 m. 13 s. |XII 15 1 37|| | |Sat 25 44 47|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:USA USA |---------------|| | | || | LAT 34 deg 9 min N | ||Nept-R 23 41 26| | ||VI 15 1 37| Long 118 deg 10 min W |Asc. 13 20 0|| | |Ven 16 50 33|| | Ayan 23 d. 51 m. 37 s. |Sun 28 4 16|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || | | | ||V 13 54 59| |Jup 21 43 57|Ketu 1 31 51||Plut 0 13 49|IV 10 57 34|III 8 23 13|II 8 45 25|| | | |Merc 9 34 52|| | | |Mars 10 29 40|| | | | || | | | |-------------------------============ ========= ===3) Let us fill the following planets from the above:-============ ========= =====Planet / Sign Star SubLagna Lord Lord Lord============ ========= =====Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven============ ========= =====4) The first check is the R.P-Moon's Sign lord is Mer, which is not matching with Asc's Sign Lord Ven. But, Ven is sublord of Mer. So there is no correction required at this level. 5) The second check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Star Lord Mer is not same as Asc Star Lord Ven. So now we have to see for any connection between Ven and Mer in the Ruling Planet Chart. But, Ven is Sub Lord of Mer.6) The third and last check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Sub Lord Sat Ven is same as Asc's Sub Lord. It is Venus.Does this chart need the birth time rectification done?If so how to proceed further?A few events for verification:Birth of Younger Sibling 22 Dec 1965Death of Father 24 Jun 1974Death of Mother 04 Jul 1976Post Graduate Degree in PhysicsJob Type: Computer SoftwareMarried 24 Feb 1989 1:50amNo Extra Marital affairs yetTravel Oversees first time 26 Jun 1991Children: Jul 1991, Feb 1994, Jan 1998Overseas Citizenship 24 Jun 2004Regards,Krishna , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote:>> My Rectification Technique.> > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon.> > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub.> > conection means only with sub wise or star wise.> (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..)> Dont use Aspects or sign connection.> > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me.> I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....!> > Swami Omkar> www.pranavapeeta.org> > '----------RBT--------------------> Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list.> To rectify by RP we :> 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied> horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC).> We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and> 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47> Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub> 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54> 15S47)> 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub> 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by> Moon also, this level is ok, no correction> 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need> to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn:> Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu> Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus> **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of> Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the> second level> 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside> the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection> between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn> beginning with sub of Saturn the first.> Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus> sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification> should be applied to the sub of Satun> The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub.> Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we> consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and> Jup is in Moon star?> > swami : You are right.> > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Swamiji, Our sincere thanks for enlightening us on the RBT followed by you. As you have mentioned in your message( and I remember having read in some KP Reader) that Birth Moon will always correspond to RP Ascendant. If such is the case, is it possible to check from this angle also for arriving at the rectified birthtime.Naturally both the approaches should give the same answer. I request you to clarify this in detail preferably with an example. With pranams to your sacred self, Anban- G.Subramanianswami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: Dear Krishna, Your way of approach and logic is right. but you want to go little deeper. sign level only you done. star and sub level you want to done more. In your example you showed like this Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven 1) Sign level connection: one that judgment day Ven in mercury star. answer is . sign is correct 2) Star level connection: Mars and Sun both in moon sub. so mars and sun connected through moon. 3) Sub level connection: Ven directly matched as Ven No more rectification needed. Note for other members: Some people told this method of checking like birth asc to RP moon is theory of baskaran. but still I don’t know about what mr.baskaran using in his theory. basically I want to explain the truth behind this theory. in some KP books we can see, without seeing the horoscope with help of RP KSK or other astrologer will tell the birth star of a person. this example are good while reading, when we started to use it will give lot of problem. in my practice I got the logic is asc is connected with birth moon and birth moon is connected with RP asc. Vis-versa. in 6 readers some place also we can see this theory( I hope tinwinji will help us to find the pages) . So finally I want to express that, “this theory based on KSK only not based on Swami Omkar or any others”. Swami Omkar gdplus1 <gdplus1 > wrote: Dear Swamiji & List,This is my attempt to follow the RBT method presented by SWAMIJI and example provided by Raghunath Raoji.I am student and beginner in Astrology. One and all, please provide your feedback.Methodological approach in RBT1) The natal Chart details are:-December 9, 1961Time: 16:30Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 09' 00", 17 N 15' 00"Rising Degree 8 Ta 35 52 Ven sign, Sun Star, Ven sub.-------------------------| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || |XII 4 0 15|Asc. 8 35 52|II 5 7 55|| | |For 27 36 53| || | | | |-------------------------| | | || | SATURDAY 9 12 1961 | || | Time 16 30 | ||X1 28 54 7| |III 0 19 1|| | SID.TIME 21 h. 32 m. 24 s. |IV 27 28 10|| | |Rahu 27 58 28|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:INDIA |---------------|| | | ||Ketu 27 58 28| LAT 17 deg 15 min N | ||X 27 28 10| | ||Jup 12 30 25| Long 80 deg 9 min E |Uran-R 7 18 7||Sat 4 1 53| |Plut 16 53 13||IX 0 19 1| Ayan 23 d. 14 m. 7 s. |V 28 54 7|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || |Mars 25 22 36| | ||Moon 12 55 54|Sun 23 54 53|Nept 19 5 1| ||VIII 5 7 55|Merc 20 6 11|VI 4 0 15| || |Ven 12 11 9| | || |VII 8 35 52| | || | | | || | | | |-------------------------DASA BAL. Ketu 0 Y. 77 Days ENDS ON 24 2 1962BHK. Bal. Merc 0 Y. 77 Days: ANT. Bal. Jup. 19 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Ven Sun Ven Rah :SUN. Mar Mer Mar Ven 2nd Mer Mar Sun Jup :MOON Jup Ket Mer Jup 3rd Moo Jup Moo Ven :MARS Mar Mer Rah Ket 4th Moo Mer Jup Moo :MERC Mar Mer Ven Mar 5th Sun Sun Mar Mer :JUP. Sat Moo Rah Sat 6th Ven Mar Ven Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Mar Rah 7th Mar Sat Ven Moo :SAT. Sat Sun Sat Ven 8th Jup Ket Mar Sat :RAHU Moo Mer Sat Sat 9th Sat Sun Rah Mer :KETU Sat Mar Sat Sat 10th Sat Mar Jup Moo :URAN-R Sun Ket Rah Moo 11th Sat Jup Sun Mar :NEPT Ven Rah Moo Ven 12th Mar Ket Moo Jup :FOR. Ven Mar Jup Mar :PLUT Sun Ven Moo Mer 2) The judgement chart details:-September 14, 2006Time: 14:40:00Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 118 W 10', 34 N 9' ============ ========= ===DASA BAL. Mars 1 Y. 280 Days ENDS ON 21 6 2008BHK. Bal. Ven. 0 Y. 304 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 6 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 4 DaysHOR.NO : 93 : Asc.for RP 249 Deg 26 MinLORDS : Jup,Ket,Sat,SatMoon Degrees 3 Cn 17 58CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Sun Ven Ven Ven :SUN. Sun Sun Moo Mer 2nd Mer Sun Ven Rah :MOON Mer Mar Ven Moo 3rd Ven Rah Rah Moo :MARS Mer Moo Moo Sat 4th Mar Sat Sun Ven :MERC Mer Sun Ven Mer 5th Jup Ven Ven Moo :JUP. Ven Jup Jup Rah 6th Sat Moo Jup Ven :VEN. Sun Ven Moo Sat 7th Sat Rah Mer Sun :SAT. Moo Mer Rah Sun 8th Jup Sat Ven Moo :RAHU Jup Jup Rah Rah 9th Mar Ket Jup Ket :KETU Mer Sun Jup Sat 10th Ven Moo Moo Ven :URAN-R Sat Rah Moo Jup 11th Mer Rah Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sat Mar Mar Sat 12th Moo Sat Jup Jup :FOR. Ven Moo Mer Sun :PLUT Jup Ket Ket Moo -------------------------| | | | || | | | ||VIII 8 45 25| | | ||Rahu 1 31 51| | | || |IX 8 23 13|X 10 57 34|Moon 3 17 58|| | |For 18 33 42|X1 13 54 59|| | | | |-------------------------| | NAME:RBT judgement time | || | THURSDAY 14 9 2006 | ||Uran-R 18 30 11| Time 14 40 | ||VII 13 20 0| | || | SID.TIME 13 h. 22 m. 13 s. |XII 15 1 37|| | |Sat 25 44 47|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:USA USA |---------------|| | | || | LAT 34 deg 9 min N | ||Nept-R 23 41 26| | ||VI 15 1 37| Long 118 deg 10 min W |Asc. 13 20 0|| | |Ven 16 50 33|| | Ayan 23 d. 51 m. 37 s. |Sun 28 4 16|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || | | | ||V 13 54 59| |Jup 21 43 57|Ketu 1 31 51||Plut 0 13 49|IV 10 57 34|III 8 23 13|II 8 45 25|| | | |Merc 9 34 52|| | | |Mars 10 29 40|| | | | || | | | |-------------------------============ ========= ===3) Let us fill the following planets from the above:-============ ========= =====Planet / Sign Star SubLagna Lord Lord Lord============ ========= =====Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven============ ========= =====4) The first check is the R.P-Moon's Sign lord is Mer, which is not matching with Asc's Sign Lord Ven. But, Ven is sublord of Mer. So there is no correction required at this level. 5) The second check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Star Lord Mer is not same as Asc Star Lord Ven. So now we have to see for any connection between Ven and Mer in the Ruling Planet Chart. But, Ven is Sub Lord of Mer.6) The third and last check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Sub Lord Sat Ven is same as Asc's Sub Lord. It is Venus.Does this chart need the birth time rectification done?If so how to proceed further?A few events for verification:Birth of Younger Sibling 22 Dec 1965Death of Father 24 Jun 1974Death of Mother 04 Jul 1976Post Graduate Degree in PhysicsJob Type: Computer SoftwareMarried 24 Feb 1989 1:50amNo Extra Marital affairs yetTravel Oversees first time 26 Jun 1991Children: Jul 1991, Feb 1994, Jan 1998Overseas Citizenship 24 Jun 2004Regards,Krishna , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote:>> My Rectification Technique.> > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon.> > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub.> > conection means only with sub wise or star wise.> (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..)> Dont use Aspects or sign connection.> > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me.> I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....!> > Swami Omkar> www.pranavapeeta.org> > '----------RBT--------------------> Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list.> To rectify by RP we :> 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied> horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC).> We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and> 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47> Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub> 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54> 15S47)> 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub> 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by> Moon also, this level is ok, no correction> 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need> to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn:> Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu> Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus> **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of> Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the> second level> 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside> the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection> between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn> beginning with sub of Saturn the first.> Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus> sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification> should be applied to the sub of Satun> The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub.> Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we> consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and> Jup is in Moon star?> > swami : You are right.> > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 dear list please read reader 3 jan 2004 edtion. Page 494 I quote "I shall give some of the metods which are available. How far you ca rely on them, is left entirely to you,to thw readers and to research scholars " He has a number of methods, and recommends i quote "Accoring to Krishnmurti Paddhati and the simplest metod of multipluing the vighties from sun rise yo time of birth by 4 and didive by 9. The remainder will give the number of Star from Asvini,or its trinal (1 vighati=24seconds)1 hour=150 vighatis :1 min =60 vighaties. Then he also gives the method by Varamira, which is Prasna, and Ruling planets This method of RPS he has explaine by an example on p 503/504swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: Dear Krishna, Your way of approach and logic is right. but you want to go little deeper. sign level only you done. star and sub level you want to done more. In your example you showed like this Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven 1) Sign level connection: one that judgment day Ven in mercury star. answer is . sign is correct 2) Star level connection: Mars and Sun both in moon sub. so mars and sun connected through moon. 3) Sub level connection: Ven directly matched as Ven No more rectification needed. Note for other members: Some people told this method of checking like birth asc to RP moon is theory of baskaran. but still I don’t know about what mr.baskaran using in his theory. basically I want to explain the truth behind this theory. in some KP books we can see, without seeing the horoscope with help of RP KSK or other astrologer will tell the birth star of a person. this example are good while reading, when we started to use it will give lot of problem. in my practice I got the logic is asc is connected with birth moon and birth moon is connected with RP asc. Vis-versa. in 6 readers some place also we can see this theory( I hope tinwinji will help us to find the pages) . So finally I want to express that, “this theory based on KSK only not based on Swami Omkar or any others”. Swami Omkar gdplus1 <gdplus1 > wrote: Dear Swamiji & List,This is my attempt to follow the RBT method presented by SWAMIJI and example provided by Raghunath Raoji.I am student and beginner in Astrology. One and all, please provide your feedback.Methodological approach in RBT1) The natal Chart details are:-December 9, 1961Time: 16:30Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 09' 00", 17 N 15' 00"Rising Degree 8 Ta 35 52 Ven sign, Sun Star, Ven sub.-------------------------| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || |XII 4 0 15|Asc. 8 35 52|II 5 7 55|| | |For 27 36 53| || | | | |-------------------------| | | || | SATURDAY 9 12 1961 | || | Time 16 30 | ||X1 28 54 7| |III 0 19 1|| | SID.TIME 21 h. 32 m. 24 s. |IV 27 28 10|| | |Rahu 27 58 28|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:INDIA |---------------|| | | ||Ketu 27 58 28| LAT 17 deg 15 min N | ||X 27 28 10| | ||Jup 12 30 25| Long 80 deg 9 min E |Uran-R 7 18 7||Sat 4 1 53| |Plut 16 53 13||IX 0 19 1| Ayan 23 d. 14 m. 7 s. |V 28 54 7|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || |Mars 25 22 36| | ||Moon 12 55 54|Sun 23 54 53|Nept 19 5 1| ||VIII 5 7 55|Merc 20 6 11|VI 4 0 15| || |Ven 12 11 9| | || |VII 8 35 52| | || | | | || | | | |-------------------------DASA BAL. Ketu 0 Y. 77 Days ENDS ON 24 2 1962BHK. Bal. Merc 0 Y. 77 Days: ANT. Bal. Jup. 19 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Ven Sun Ven Rah :SUN. Mar Mer Mar Ven 2nd Mer Mar Sun Jup :MOON Jup Ket Mer Jup 3rd Moo Jup Moo Ven :MARS Mar Mer Rah Ket 4th Moo Mer Jup Moo :MERC Mar Mer Ven Mar 5th Sun Sun Mar Mer :JUP. Sat Moo Rah Sat 6th Ven Mar Ven Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Mar Rah 7th Mar Sat Ven Moo :SAT. Sat Sun Sat Ven 8th Jup Ket Mar Sat :RAHU Moo Mer Sat Sat 9th Sat Sun Rah Mer :KETU Sat Mar Sat Sat 10th Sat Mar Jup Moo :URAN-R Sun Ket Rah Moo 11th Sat Jup Sun Mar :NEPT Ven Rah Moo Ven 12th Mar Ket Moo Jup :FOR. Ven Mar Jup Mar :PLUT Sun Ven Moo Mer 2) The judgement chart details:-September 14, 2006Time: 14:40:00Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 118 W 10', 34 N 9' ============ ========= ===DASA BAL. Mars 1 Y. 280 Days ENDS ON 21 6 2008BHK. Bal. Ven. 0 Y. 304 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 6 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 4 DaysHOR.NO : 93 : Asc.for RP 249 Deg 26 MinLORDS : Jup,Ket,Sat,SatMoon Degrees 3 Cn 17 58CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Sun Ven Ven Ven :SUN. Sun Sun Moo Mer 2nd Mer Sun Ven Rah :MOON Mer Mar Ven Moo 3rd Ven Rah Rah Moo :MARS Mer Moo Moo Sat 4th Mar Sat Sun Ven :MERC Mer Sun Ven Mer 5th Jup Ven Ven Moo :JUP. Ven Jup Jup Rah 6th Sat Moo Jup Ven :VEN. Sun Ven Moo Sat 7th Sat Rah Mer Sun :SAT. Moo Mer Rah Sun 8th Jup Sat Ven Moo :RAHU Jup Jup Rah Rah 9th Mar Ket Jup Ket :KETU Mer Sun Jup Sat 10th Ven Moo Moo Ven :URAN-R Sat Rah Moo Jup 11th Mer Rah Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sat Mar Mar Sat 12th Moo Sat Jup Jup :FOR. Ven Moo Mer Sun :PLUT Jup Ket Ket Moo -------------------------| | | | || | | | ||VIII 8 45 25| | | ||Rahu 1 31 51| | | || |IX 8 23 13|X 10 57 34|Moon 3 17 58|| | |For 18 33 42|X1 13 54 59|| | | | |-------------------------| | NAME:RBT judgement time | || | THURSDAY 14 9 2006 | ||Uran-R 18 30 11| Time 14 40 | ||VII 13 20 0| | || | SID.TIME 13 h. 22 m. 13 s. |XII 15 1 37|| | |Sat 25 44 47|| | NAKS:Revati-PADA 0 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:USA USA |---------------|| | | || | LAT 34 deg 9 min N | ||Nept-R 23 41 26| | ||VI 15 1 37| Long 118 deg 10 min W |Asc. 13 20 0|| | |Ven 16 50 33|| | Ayan 23 d. 51 m. 37 s. |Sun 28 4 16|| | | || | | |-------------------------| | | | || | | | ||V 13 54 59| |Jup 21 43 57|Ketu 1 31 51||Plut 0 13 49|IV 10 57 34|III 8 23 13|II 8 45 25|| | | |Merc 9 34 52|| | | |Mars 10 29 40|| | | | || | | | |-------------------------============ ========= ===3) Let us fill the following planets from the above:-============ ========= =====Planet / Sign Star SubLagna Lord Lord Lord============ ========= =====Ascendant Ven Sun Ven------------ --------- --------- -------RP's Moon Mer Mar Ven============ ========= =====4) The first check is the R.P-Moon's Sign lord is Mer, which is not matching with Asc's Sign Lord Ven. But, Ven is sublord of Mer. So there is no correction required at this level. 5) The second check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Star Lord Mer is not same as Asc Star Lord Ven. So now we have to see for any connection between Ven and Mer in the Ruling Planet Chart. But, Ven is Sub Lord of Mer.6) The third and last check. We have to check whether the R.P Moon's Sub Lord Sat Ven is same as Asc's Sub Lord. It is Venus.Does this chart need the birth time rectification done?If so how to proceed further?A few events for verification:Birth of Younger Sibling 22 Dec 1965Death of Father 24 Jun 1974Death of Mother 04 Jul 1976Post Graduate Degree in PhysicsJob Type: Computer SoftwareMarried 24 Feb 1989 1:50amNo Extra Marital affairs yetTravel Oversees first time 26 Jun 1991Children: Jul 1991, Feb 1994, Jan 1998Overseas Citizenship 24 Jun 2004Regards,Krishna , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote:>> My Rectification Technique.> > I wil consider Birth ASC with RP moon.> > we want to check ,if there is any connection between RP Moon's Sign-star-sub with Birth ASC sign- star -sub.> > conection means only with sub wise or star wise.> (the moon sign lord is connected with Asc sign like sub wise or star wise..)> Dont use Aspects or sign connection.> > following mail content form old forum. i had a chat with the person and tought the RBT. he given feed back what he understand. i hope people can understand. otherwise feel free to ask me.> I always ready to share my knowlege which i got form people like you.....!> > Swami Omkar> www.pranavapeeta.org> > '----------RBT--------------------> Dear Swamiji > I will recapitule my lesson and share with the members list.> To rectify by RP we :> 1)first take the time listed of the birth and draw the unrectifyied> horoscope to extract the Sign Star and Sub rising (ASC).> We got for example a birth: 7/aug/1981 4h48 am Combaitore (76E58 and> 11N00) IST TZ(5h30m) Rising Degree 00CN47> Moon sign,Jupiter Star, Mars sub> 2)Verify the Moon as RP in Sign,Star and Sub (at that moment 9CN26 > Moon Sign,Saturn star and Venus sub. (4/aug/2005 4h49m26 tz.3h 47W54> 15S47)> 3)Now begins the rectification in 3 levels, Sign, Star and Sub> 3.1) Moon in RP is in Moon Sign that match with rising Sign ruled by> Moon also, this level is ok, no correction> 3.2) Moon in RP is Saturn Star and the rising Star is Jup, so, we need> to verify if Jupiter in RP chart has connection with Saturn:> Jupiter is in Virgo sign, Star of Moon and sub of Ketu> Saturn is in Cancer sign, Star of Saturn and sub of Venus> **No connection between star and sub, the connection is only star of> Jup and Saturn sing. So take the next star as rectification on the> second level> 3.3)Now the the star were change we need to find the proper sub inside> the next star of Saturn, for that we need to see the connection> between Ven as sub of Moon RP with each sub of the star of Saturn> beginning with sub of Saturn the first.> Is there a connection between Ven and Saturn? Yes Saturn is in Venus> sub and Venus is in Venus star, so there is connection , rectification> should be applied to the sub of Satun> The final rising degree should be 3Can20 Moon sign, Saturn star and > Saturn sub.> Please draw the chart to analyse the explanation > > Swami, please see item 3.2, is there anything wrong there?should we> consider connection between Jup and Sat bcz Saturn is in Moon sign and> Jup is in Moon star?> > swami : You are right.> > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Good LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609 Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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