Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, You may remember, few days ago, I have attempted a Progeny case, where I have taken the number myself in the asense from the native. I was advised by some of you that that is not the correct procedure, hence I have got the horary number from the native and giving my analysis as my 2nd attempt. The question from a female native was "When will I conceive? ". The Prashna (Horary) Chart details are : Horary Number : 6 August 28, 2006 Time: 20:31:54 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 93 W 20' 59", 44 N 53' 23" USA I) First of all let us determine whether the Moon is indicating any clues about the native's Prashna about her progeny. As Moon indicates the mind and this Moon is in Swati Nakshatra ruled by Rahu and in the Sub of Jup. This Moon is placed in 7th house and also lord of 5th house. Jup is also placed in 7th house with Moon and both are aspecting Lagna. This is indicating me about the native is thinking about progeny while giving the Horary number to me. So I have the permission to go forward and give my analysis for this native. II) The principles what I have learnt to see whether one is promised for children or not is to be judged from the 5th Cusp. One will be able to produce children if the following three conditions are simultaneously satisfied:- 1) The sub-lord of the 5th Cusp is not retrograde * Here in this case the 5th Cusp Sub-Lord is Rahu and he is always retrograde = 1st Test passed 2) It is not posited in a constellation of a retrograde planet * Here the Rahu is placed in a P.Bhadra Nakshatra which is ruled by Jup which is not Retrograde. = 2nd Test passed 3) It is significator of either 2nd or 5th or 11th house. * Rahu is significator of A-07,B-12,C-09,C-10 - 3rd Test Failed. So overall the above three conditions are NOT met, hence the Progeny is not promised. III) But based on the Raichur Ji's software, I can see that Rahu is signifcator of 5 and 11 based on the category of F (F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps). If I consider this then the above 3 tests will be passed and I can move forward, if not consider the analysis is complete here. IV) Now let me see some other principles for progeny. Progeny is promised or not ?. As this question is from the female the 5th house to be considered. The 5th cusp is 13 Cn 17 and its Sub-Lord is Rah, whose star lord is Jup. Jup is placed in 7th house with Moon and signifying A-12,B-07,D-09,D-10 houses. Not encouraging again based on this. V) Next let us see the 2nd, 5th and 11 houses as these are the signifying houses and are to be judged to note the time when one can hav a child. 1) 2nd house is vacant and its lord is Ven, who is in Aslesha Nakshatra ruled by Merc and this Merc is placed in 5th house. Interestingly this Merc's Sub is also Rahu. This is a good indication. 2) 5th house is occupied by Ven,Merc and Sat. We have already discussed about Merc. Star Lord of Ven is Rahu and Sub lord is Jup. Star lord of Sat is Merc and Sub Lord is Mar. 3) 11th house is vacant and its lord Sat. No planet is in the constellation of Sat. So the Significators are : Ven, Mer, Sat, Rahu and Mar VI) Now let us see the Ruling Planets. Ruling Planet(RP) are: Day Lord: Moon ASC SGL : Sat ASC STL : Jup Asc SubL: Rahu MOON STL: Rah MOON SGL: Ven Rahu is agent of Jup and common signifactors are : Ven,Sat and Rah. VII) Now let us find out the Joint Periods where the native will be blessed with progeny:- At the time of judgment the querent is running a joint period of Rahu Dasa and Jup Bhukti till Sep 18th 2008. Jup is NOT in the above list, hence Jup bhukti can not give children. Next Bhukti is Sat which is in the list, so the children are promised in the Sat Bhukti and Ven Antar which is between: Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010 reason is that the above D-B-A is connected with the 2nd, 5th and 11th cusps. Summary : I think overall from looking at the above 5 different angels, I am thinking this native will have progeny between Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010. Thanks for your help in advance in reviewing my analysis and providing some feed-back. Regards Raghunatha Rao Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Raghunath Rao Your analysis is on correct lines. Note that when a Planet is within 3.3 deg of the cusp, it will be significator of that house, in addition to being the significator of house where it resides. My soft ware, shows such planets to be in the house (not mathamatically correct). I am changing this shortly Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, You may remember, few days ago, I have attempted a Progeny case, where I have taken the number myself in the asense from the native. I was advised by some of you that that is not the correct procedure, hence I have got the horary number from the native and giving my analysis as my 2nd attempt. The question from a female native was "When will I conceive? ". The Prashna (Horary) Chart details are : Horary Number : 6 August 28, 2006 Time: 20:31:54 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 93 W 20' 59", 44 N 53' 23" USA I) First of all let us determine whether the Moon is indicating any clues about the native's Prashna about her progeny. As Moon indicates the mind and this Moon is in Swati Nakshatra ruled by Rahu and in the Sub of Jup. This Moon is placed in 7th house and also lord of 5th house. Jup is also placed in 7th house with Moon and both are aspecting Lagna. This is indicating me about the native is thinking about progeny while giving the Horary number to me. So I have the permission to go forward and give my analysis for this native. II) The principles what I have learnt to see whether one is promised for children or not is to be judged from the 5th Cusp. One will be able to produce children if the following three conditions are simultaneously satisfied:- 1) The sub-lord of the 5th Cusp is not retrograde * Here in this case the 5th Cusp Sub-Lord is Rahu and he is always retrograde = 1st Test passed 2) It is not posited in a constellation of a retrograde planet * Here the Rahu is placed in a P.Bhadra Nakshatra which is ruled by Jup which is not Retrograde. = 2nd Test passed 3) It is significator of either 2nd or 5th or 11th house. * Rahu is significator of A-07,B-12,C-09,C-10 - 3rd Test Failed. So overall the above three conditions are NOT met, hence the Progeny is not promised. III) But based on the Raichur Ji's software, I can see that Rahu is signifcator of 5 and 11 based on the category of F (F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps). If I consider this then the above 3 tests will be passed and I can move forward, if not consider the analysis is complete here. IV) Now let me see some other principles for progeny. Progeny is promised or not ?. As this question is from the female the 5th house to be considered. The 5th cusp is 13 Cn 17 and its Sub-Lord is Rah, whose star lord is Jup. Jup is placed in 7th house with Moon and signifying A-12,B-07,D-09,D-10 houses. Not encouraging again based on this. V) Next let us see the 2nd, 5th and 11 houses as these are the signifying houses and are to be judged to note the time when one can hav a child. 1) 2nd house is vacant and its lord is Ven, who is in Aslesha Nakshatra ruled by Merc and this Merc is placed in 5th house. Interestingly this Merc's Sub is also Rahu. This is a good indication. 2) 5th house is occupied by Ven,Merc and Sat. We have already discussed about Merc. Star Lord of Ven is Rahu and Sub lord is Jup. Star lord of Sat is Merc and Sub Lord is Mar. 3) 11th house is vacant and its lord Sat. No planet is in the constellation of Sat. So the Significators are : Ven, Mer, Sat, Rahu and Mar VI) Now let us see the Ruling Planets. Ruling Planet(RP) are: Day Lord: Moon ASC SGL : Sat ASC STL : Jup Asc SubL: Rahu MOON STL: Rah MOON SGL: Ven Rahu is agent of Jup and common signifactors are : Ven,Sat and Rah. VII) Now let us find out the Joint Periods where the native will be blessed with progeny:- At the time of judgment the querent is running a joint period of Rahu Dasa and Jup Bhukti till Sep 18th 2008. Jup is NOT in the above list, hence Jup bhukti can not give children. Next Bhukti is Sat which is in the list, so the children are promised in the Sat Bhukti and Ven Antar which is between: Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010 reason is that the above D-B-A is connected with the 2nd, 5th and 11th cusps. Summary : I think overall from looking at the above 5 different angels, I am thinking this native will have progeny between Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010. Thanks for your help in advance in reviewing my analysis and providing some feed-back. Regards Raghunatha Rao Get your email and more, right on the new .com How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Raghunatha, You are work based on Progeny is good. i want to tell some words about it. you told "Rahu always retrograte" this part is little wrong. Always Planets having three motions. 1) Direct - Chara Gathi 2)Retro - Vakra Gathi 3) Static - Sthambana But Sun/Moon/Rahu/Kethu always having only one side motion. it never get reverse motion.so always concider this 4 planets as normal.some astro software pur "R" symbol near to Nodes that also not good. mean while i like to explain few topic which not related with progeny. "coming 3rd september sunday 9:00 pm the chat session having the topic is child birth. in this i wil explain multiple factor about progeny. like who wil get normal,abortion,surgery and testtube baby birth? dont miss it.in that chat session we discus about it" Normaly astrology books wil speak about direct and retro but they never talk about static or stambana position. before and after retro planet remians few days in stambana position. then what we can tell result? for example after completing retro satun remains 6 days in stambana position. then that day if sat came as a cusp sublord then what wil be the answer? My view and experiance is treate like retro planet. if experianced member can tell thier view. Swami Omkar www.pranavapeetam.org Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, You may remember, few days ago, I have attempted a Progeny case, where I have taken the number myself in the asense from the native. I was advised by some of you that that is not the correct procedure, hence I have got the horary number from the native and giving my analysis as my 2nd attempt. The question from a female native was "When will I conceive? ". The Prashna (Horary) Chart details are : Horary Number : 6 August 28, 2006 Time: 20:31:54 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 93 W 20' 59", 44 N 53' 23" USA I) First of all let us determine whether the Moon is indicating any clues about the native's Prashna about her progeny. As Moon indicates the mind and this Moon is in Swati Nakshatra ruled by Rahu and in the Sub of Jup. This Moon is placed in 7th house and also lord of 5th house. Jup is also placed in 7th house with Moon and both are aspecting Lagna. This is indicating me about the native is thinking about progeny while giving the Horary number to me. So I have the permission to go forward and give my analysis for this native. II) The principles what I have learnt to see whether one is promised for children or not is to be judged from the 5th Cusp. One will be able to produce children if the following three conditions are simultaneously satisfied:- 1) The sub-lord of the 5th Cusp is not retrograde * Here in this case the 5th Cusp Sub-Lord is Rahu and he is always retrograde = 1st Test passed 2) It is not posited in a constellation of a retrograde planet * Here the Rahu is placed in a P.Bhadra Nakshatra which is ruled by Jup which is not Retrograde. = 2nd Test passed 3) It is significator of either 2nd or 5th or 11th house. * Rahu is significator of A-07,B-12,C-09,C-10 - 3rd Test Failed. So overall the above three conditions are NOT met, hence the Progeny is not promised. III) But based on the Raichur Ji's software, I can see that Rahu is signifcator of 5 and 11 based on the category of F (F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps). If I consider this then the above 3 tests will be passed and I can move forward, if not consider the analysis is complete here. IV) Now let me see some other principles for progeny. Progeny is promised or not ?. As this question is from the female the 5th house to be considered. The 5th cusp is 13 Cn 17 and its Sub-Lord is Rah, whose star lord is Jup. Jup is placed in 7th house with Moon and signifying A-12,B-07,D-09,D-10 houses. Not encouraging again based on this. V) Next let us see the 2nd, 5th and 11 houses as these are the signifying houses and are to be judged to note the time when one can hav a child. 1) 2nd house is vacant and its lord is Ven, who is in Aslesha Nakshatra ruled by Merc and this Merc is placed in 5th house. Interestingly this Merc's Sub is also Rahu. This is a good indication. 2) 5th house is occupied by Ven,Merc and Sat. We have already discussed about Merc. Star Lord of Ven is Rahu and Sub lord is Jup. Star lord of Sat is Merc and Sub Lord is Mar. 3) 11th house is vacant and its lord Sat. No planet is in the constellation of Sat. So the Significators are : Ven, Mer, Sat, Rahu and Mar VI) Now let us see the Ruling Planets. Ruling Planet(RP) are: Day Lord: Moon ASC SGL : Sat ASC STL : Jup Asc SubL: Rahu MOON STL: Rah MOON SGL: Ven Rahu is agent of Jup and common signifactors are : Ven,Sat and Rah. VII) Now let us find out the Joint Periods where the native will be blessed with progeny:- At the time of judgment the querent is running a joint period of Rahu Dasa and Jup Bhukti till Sep 18th 2008. Jup is NOT in the above list, hence Jup bhukti can not give children. Next Bhukti is Sat which is in the list, so the children are promised in the Sat Bhukti and Ven Antar which is between: Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010 reason is that the above D-B-A is connected with the 2nd, 5th and 11th cusps. Summary : I think overall from looking at the above 5 different angels, I am thinking this native will have progeny between Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010. Thanks for your help in advance in reviewing my analysis and providing some feed-back. Regards Raghunatha Rao Get your email and more, right on the new .com Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Dear Swami Omkar ji, 1. Regarding the planetary stations, the collected information is below. Richard Houck made the point of giving special consideration to planetary stations, which are in his opinion, the most powerful form of a planet's energy. When they station by transit, that is the time when they can express themselves most clearly and forcefully. But even more than transits, however, progressed stations contained the key for predicting key life events such as elections. He declared George W. Bush President of the United States, commenting in advance of the election that Bush's victory was the strangest win pattern he had ever seen. While stations are powerful and usually accompany life changing events, the problem is to ascertain whether the station will make the event positive or negative. For example, Nixon resigned just one month before the direct station of secondary progressed Pluto, arguably the most political planet. Nixon also lost the 1960 election just two months before a tertiary progressed Saturn retograde station. He won his 1972 reelection just three months after a tertiary progressed Pluto station. Jimmy Carter was sideswiped by the Iran hostage crisis just one month before his secondary progressed Neptune retrograde station. He lost the 1980 election two months after the tertiary progressed Pluto retrograde station. Aside from natural qualities of the planet involved, retrograde stations are more likely to bring setbacks, while direct stations bring favourable circumstances. George Bush Sr. won the 1988 election two months after the tertiary progressed Pluto retrograde station. (Pluto the planet is dead. Msg#9423) Christopher Kevill, Hauk's disciple, also correctly predicted a Republican victory in November 2004 mainly on the basis of stations in Bush and Cheney's charts, ie. for Bush the tertiary progressed Venus declinational station in early November, Saturn's retrograde station less than one week after the election (Saturn is placed in the first house in a nakshatra that it also rules and is placed in the 10th house in the D10 career chart. His ascendant falls in a nakshatra Saturn is placed in the nakshatra of Pushya which is ruled by Saturn); for Cheney a tertiary progressed Mercury direct station in January 2005 just before the inauguration. (What's especially significant here is not only it is the more favourable direct station, it falls exactly on his MC. This clearly shows advancement in career and social profile. And Cheney is running Venus-Mercury dasha at the time, thus giving the Mercury station extra referring power.) 2. It can also be seen how the life of Sandy Crowther's spouse was saved by the combined aproach of KP Badhaka and tertiary. 3. I think nothing is wrong in M.P. Shanmugam' saying, Sun, Moon, are always on direct motion. Never retrograde…. Rahu and Kethu are ever retrograde. Never direct. " (Astrosecrets Part 1, page 26-27) and no station for Rahu and Kethu similar to no Sun and Moon in Planet Stations 1920-2010 tables by Robert P Blaschke: Astrlogy, A Language of Life, Vol I- Progressions, page 91-132. Regards, tw , swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: > > Dear Raghunatha, > > You are work based on Progeny is good. i want to tell some words about it. > you told " Rahu always retrograte " this part is little wrong. > > > Always Planets having three motions. > 1) Direct - Chara Gathi > 2)Retro - Vakra Gathi > 3) Static - Sthambana > > But Sun/Moon/Rahu/Kethu always having only one side motion. it never get reverse motion.so always concider this 4 planets as normal.some astro software pur " R " symbol near to Nodes that also not good. > mean while i like to explain few topic which not related with progeny. > > " coming 3rd september sunday 9:00 pm the chat session having the topic is child birth. in this i wil explain multiple factor about progeny. like who wil get normal,abortion,surgery and testtube baby birth? dont miss it.in that chat session we discus about it " > > > Normaly astrology books wil speak about direct and retro but they never talk about static or stambana position. > > before and after retro planet remians few days in stambana position. then what we can tell result? > for example after completing retro satun remains 6 days in stambana position. then that day if sat came as a cusp sublord then what wil be the answer? > My view and experiance is treate like retro planet. if experianced member can tell thier view. > > Swami Omkar > www.pranavapeetam.org > > > > > Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, > > You may remember, few days ago, I have attempted a Progeny case, where I have taken the number myself in the asense from the native. I was advised by some of you that that is not the correct procedure, hence I have got the horary number from the native and giving my analysis as my 2nd attempt. > > The question from a female native was " When will I conceive? " . > > The Prashna (Horary) Chart details are : > > Horary Number : 6 > > August 28, 2006 > Time: 20:31:54 > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 93 W 20' 59 " , 44 N 53' 23 " > USA > > I) First of all let us determine whether the Moon is indicating any clues about the native's Prashna about her progeny. > > As Moon indicates the mind and this Moon is in Swati Nakshatra ruled by Rahu and in the Sub of Jup. This Moon is placed in 7th house and also lord of 5th house. Jup is also placed in 7th house with Moon and both are aspecting Lagna. This is indicating me about the native is thinking about progeny while giving the Horary number to me. So I have the permission to go forward and give my analysis for this native. > > II) The principles what I have learnt to see whether one is promised for children or not is to be judged from the 5th Cusp. One will be able to produce children if the following three conditions are simultaneously satisfied:- > > 1) The sub-lord of the 5th Cusp is not retrograde > * Here in this case the 5th Cusp Sub-Lord is Rahu and he is always > retrograde = 1st Test passed > > 2) It is not posited in a constellation of a retrograde planet > * Here the Rahu is placed in a P.Bhadra Nakshatra which is ruled by Jup > which is not Retrograde. = 2nd Test passed > > 3) It is significator of either 2nd or 5th or 11th house. > * Rahu is significator of A-07,B-12,C-09,C-10 - 3rd Test Failed. > > So overall the above three conditions are NOT met, hence the Progeny is not promised. > > III) But based on the Raichur Ji's software, I can see that Rahu is signifcator of 5 and 11 based on the category of F (F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps). If I consider this then the above 3 tests will be passed and I can move forward, if not consider the analysis is complete here. > > IV) Now let me see some other principles for progeny. Progeny is promised or not ?. As this question is from the female the 5th house to be considered. The 5th cusp is 13 Cn 17 and its Sub-Lord is Rah, whose star lord is Jup. Jup is placed in 7th house with Moon and signifying A-12,B-07,D-09,D-10 houses. Not encouraging again based on this. > > V) Next let us see the 2nd, 5th and 11 houses as these are the signifying houses and are to be judged to note the time when one can hav a child. > > 1) 2nd house is vacant and its lord is Ven, who is in Aslesha Nakshatra ruled by Merc and this Merc is placed in 5th house. Interestingly this Merc's Sub is also Rahu. This is a good indication. > > 2) 5th house is occupied by Ven,Merc and Sat. We have already discussed about Merc. Star Lord of Ven is Rahu and Sub lord is Jup. Star lord of Sat is Merc and Sub Lord is > Mar. > > 3) 11th house is vacant and its lord Sat. No planet is in the constellation of Sat. > > So the Significators are : Ven, Mer, Sat, Rahu and Mar > > VI) Now let us see the Ruling Planets. > > Ruling Planet(RP) are: > Day Lord: Moon > ASC SGL : Sat > ASC STL : Jup > Asc SubL: Rahu > MOON STL: Rah > MOON SGL: Ven > > Rahu is agent of Jup and common signifactors are : Ven,Sat and Rah. > > VII) Now let us find out the Joint Periods where the native will be blessed with progeny:- > > At the time of judgment the querent is running a joint period of Rahu Dasa and Jup > Bhukti till Sep 18th 2008. Jup is NOT in the above list, hence Jup bhukti can not give children. Next Bhukti is Sat which is in the list, so the children are promised in the Sat Bhukti and Ven Antar which is between: Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010 reason is that the above D-B-A is connected with the 2nd, 5th and 11th cusps. > > Summary : I think overall from looking at the above 5 different angels, I am thinking this native will have progeny between Sep 26th 2009 and Mar 17th 2010. > > Thanks for your help in advance in reviewing my analysis and providing some feed-back. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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