Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dears Kanak and TW, Thanks very much,I guess the POB has been wrongly taken my me...as in Gujarat..an entirely different place...! With kind regards, L.Y.Rao.tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,Please check longitude.LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYALONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYARegards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear lajimi ji,> > If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore of 7th then why he was unmarroed?> > second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet .> > Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly.> > regards> Kanak> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:> Dears TinWinji & Kanak,> Alongwith pl. find the correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P.> With kind regards,> L.Y.Rao.> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's > Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in > the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 > charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see > the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second > as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of > the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It > is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same > for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-> 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or > Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.> > Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death > during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of > cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for > short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon > is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. > > Regards,> > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Thanks for full details reply.> > > > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth > data so i will check.> > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my > opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as > 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > > > > regards> > kanak> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > > > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not > better > > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > > > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > > books into English.> > > > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of > Cuspal > > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on > the > > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed > two > > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > > > 2. MEENA I & II> > > > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > > > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. > V. > > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > > > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > > > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > > > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > > years in stellar astrology.> > > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are > almost > > the same.> > > > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book > Nadi > > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late > Sri > > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The > Times > > of Astrology)> > > > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned > in > > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except > Khullar > > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever > it > > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub > sub, > > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine > planets > > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using > these > > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > > > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his > help > > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to > Raman > > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > > > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain > his "paddhati", > > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning > the > > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > > > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha > 3 > > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions > whereas > > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > > Interlinks, page 200) > > > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > > > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and > Shareera > > planets.> > > > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.> > > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > > > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was > possible > > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to > investigate > > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.> > > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years > ago, > > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > > Gandhi)> > > > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > > > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, > , > > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > > > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in > his > > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the > Lahiri > > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > > for him.> > > > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and > sub > > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page > 86) > > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence > Jupiter > > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page > 191) > > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > > initial period and this resulted in death. > > > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > > > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP > name.> > > > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) > Ayanamsa > > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted > Ge > > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 > in > > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of > heart > > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to > reconcile "Acharaya > > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > > below. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > > > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only > increased > > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of > the > > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). > One > > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle > at > > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > > > thanks for information.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak Ji,> > > Regards,> > > > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research > on > > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good > astrologer. > > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, > while > > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably > he > > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. > You > > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not > only > > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also > see > > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. > P. > > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > > book.> > > > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of > astro > > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > > PREFACE **> > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to > an > > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where > my > > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter > the > > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a > signaller > > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest > in > > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued > on > > verious system of astrology.> > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology > in > > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked > to > > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped > into > > a book from publication.> > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed > astrology.so > > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the > field > > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > > cgarts openly and clearly.> > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA > Rasi > > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay > presidency > > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i > come > > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but > his > > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life > and > > had own difficulties in the family too.> > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give > him > > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > > possibly the world is such.> > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i > was > > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i > did > > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > > revised edition of the published books for which i did not > cooprate > > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded > me > > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me > in > > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression > that > > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was > instumental > > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my > seclusion.i > > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering > me > > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the > readers > > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large > extent > > of accuracy and precision.> > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > > CHARY> > > AUTHOR> > > **> > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > > original form.> > > Point from Kanak:> > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about > MEENA's > > given rules are how ifective?> > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this > is > > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > > > Regards> > > Kanak> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > I agree with you because:> > > > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > > printing, > > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > > educated > > > than Basakaran.)> > > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > > published > > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > > the > > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > > second. > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first > introduce > > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on > telephone > > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am > MD > > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > > sucess > > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass > only > > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him > that > > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready > to > > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > > > best wishes> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > > Fourth > > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal > Interlinks". > > > in > > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > > The > > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > Answers > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> >> > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N A> L.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028> > TEL: 2446 7314> email: lyastro1 > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> > > REF NO AR/bc> > DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART > > DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION> > DAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANU> > TIME : 17 H. 15 M. 0 S. STAR : P.Ash> > PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; > CHARANA : THIRD> > COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA> > YONI : WANARA> > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI> > LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA> > RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus> > LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]> > NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA> > NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13> > TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR> > SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI> > AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.> PRAHARA : 1st> > SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th> > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > > > > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE > > NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > |-------------------------|> |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> |ASC....... | |+JUP |> | | | |> | | | |> |---------------| |---------------|> | | |+NEP |> | | | |> | | | |> |-------------------------|> |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU |> |VEN. SAT. | | | |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> > > > TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART> > |-------------------------|> |+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS |> | | | |+PLU |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> |SUN. FOR. | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |---------------| |---------------|> |+URA | |MERC +NEP |> | | | |> | | | |> |-------------------------|> |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > > > > > > VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES > > Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 1944> |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938> |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939> |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939> |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940> |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941> |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942> Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 1943> Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 1943> Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 1944> > Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 1961> Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 1954> Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 1955> Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 1956> Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 1957> Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 1958> Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 1959> Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 1960> Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 1960> Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 1961> > Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 1995> Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 1981> Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 1984> Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 1986> Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 1987> Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 1989> Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 1990> Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 1992> Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 1992> Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 1995> > Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 2031> Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 2016> Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 2017> Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 2020> Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 2021> Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 2022> Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 2023> Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 2026> Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 2028> Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 2031> > Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |> Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |> Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |> Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |> Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |> Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |> Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |> Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |> Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |> Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |> > > > > > > > > > > W E S T E R N A S P E C T S> > Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT > > SUN. TRIN TRIN > MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP > MARS SQUR > MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR > JUP. 150 > VEN. SQUR SQUR > SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP > RAHU OPP > KETU > URAN CONJ SQUR > NEPT > FOR. SQUR > PLUT > > > > Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th> > SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL > MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt > MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr > MERC > JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP > VEN. 135 OPP CONJ > SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ > RAHU > KETU > URAN SQUR SXTL > NEPT > FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN > PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP > > > > ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.> > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > -------------------------> | | | | |> | | | | |> |For 23 52 42| | | |> |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|> |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|> | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|> | | | | |> -------------------------> | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |> | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |> | | Time 17 15 0 | |> |Asc. 27 6 28| | |> | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|> | | |Jup -R 29 44 30|> | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |> | | | |> :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|> | | | |> | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |> | | | |> |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |> | | |Nept-R 15 6 28|> | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|> | | | |> | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |> -------------------------> | | | | |> |Sat 28 35 2| | | |> |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |> |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| |> |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|> |Merc 13 29 15| | | |> |Mars 8 8 59| | | |> |X 0 12 25| | | |> -------------------------> > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: > SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days> > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS> ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup> 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat> 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven> 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup> 5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.> 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket > 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah > 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun > 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar > 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup > 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat > 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven > :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket > > > > > > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES> > SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE> A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House> C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets > Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord > Check Lords of planets near cusps !> > HOUSE A B C D E F> ----------------------------> ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> | | | | |KE: |> 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo> | | | | |SA:RA: |> 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat> | | |NEP: | |VE: |> 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo> | | | | |SU:RA: |> 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun> | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|> 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven> | | |NEP: | |VE: |> 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat> | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|> 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket> |MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|> 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer> | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|> 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> | | | | |KE: |> ----------------------------> > PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets> > SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,> MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,> MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-> MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,> JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-> VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,> SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,> RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-> KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,> URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-> FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-> > RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also > KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also > Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned > Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK > These are : > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. 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Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dear Lajmiji, In chart you have done big mistake Lon-Lat are very wrong.please check it, also Kuchwara is not in Gujarat it is in madhyapradesh(Near Jabalpur) regards kanakYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, Thank you very much for pointing out the slight mistake... The s/l of the VII works out to be MOON for the time 5-18-00 PM. The s/l and the ss/l of the Ascendant are the same as the st.lord and the s/l of the Moon...! Most of the other sublords will ALSO explain major events in his life... Your query has helped to bring out the extreme accuracy of K.P., as a couple of minutes' change in the TOB,can change the s/l of many cusps... The TOB of 17-18-00 PM gives the s/l of the VIIth as Moon which as said above explains Rajneesh's remaining unmarried...and the arousal of his Kundalini (Jagrit Kumdalini state)attracted females to him,"like bees to honey"...described not only in Patanjali Sutras but also by another great man with a jagrith Kundalini, Pt. Gopi Krishna of Srinagar,who has written an excellent book on Kundalini...based on his personal experiences... Thank you very much,the freshly cast corrected BC of Acharya Rajneeshji is sent alongwith... With the very best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear lajimi ji, If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore of 7th then why he was unmarroed? second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet . Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly. regards KanakYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dears TinWinji & Kanak, Alongwith pl. find the correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P. With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Thanks for full details reply.> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check.> about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > regards> kanak> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > books into English.> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > 2. MEENA I & II> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > years in stellar astrology.> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost > the same.> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times > of Astrology)> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > Interlinks, page 200) > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera > planets.> > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > Gandhi)> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > for him.> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > initial period and this resulted in death. > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > below. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > thanks for information.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak Ji,> > Regards,> > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > book.> > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > With regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > PREFACE **> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on > verious system of astrology.> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into > a book from publication.> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > cgarts openly and clearly.> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and > had own difficulties in the family too.> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > possibly the world is such.> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent > of accuracy and precision.> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > CHARY> > AUTHOR> > **> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > original form.> > Point from Kanak:> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's > given rules are how ifective?> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > Regards> > Kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > I agree with you because:> > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > printing, > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > educated > > than Basakaran.)> > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > published > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > the > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > second. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > sucess > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > best wishes> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > Fourth > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > > in > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > The > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N AL.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028TEL: 2446 7314email: lyastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.inBIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya RajneeshjiREF NO AR/bcDETAILS OF BIRTH CHART DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATIONDAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANUTIME : 17 H. 15 M. 0 S. STAR : P.AshPLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; CHARANA : THIRDCOUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYAYONI : WANARALAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYALONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYALAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNILORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVARASI : Sagitarius-DhanusLORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANANAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVARSID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANIAYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.PRAHARA : 1stSUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4thCast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya RajneeshjiTRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938|------------------------------||RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------||ASC....... | |+JUP || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------|| | |+NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU ||VEN. SAT. | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART|------------------------------||+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS || | | |+PLU || | | | ||------------------------------||SUN. FOR. | | || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------||+URA | |MERC +NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 1944|Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938|Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939|Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939|Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940|Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941|Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 1943Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 1943Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 1944Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 1961Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 1954Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 1955Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 1956Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 1957Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 1958Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 1959Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 1960Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 1960Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 1961Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 1995Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 1981Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 1984Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 1986Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 1987Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 1989Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 1990Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 1992Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 1992Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 1995Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 2031Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 2016Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 2017Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 2020Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 2021Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 2022Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 2023Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 2026Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 2028Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 2031Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |W E S T E R N A S P E C T SPlan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT SUN. TRIN TRIN MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP MARS SQUR MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR JUP. 150 VEN. SQUR SQUR SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP RAHU OPP KETU URAN CONJ SQUR NEPT FOR. SQUR PLUT Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12thSUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr MERC JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP VEN. 135 OPP CONJ SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ RAHU KETU URAN SQUR SXTL NEPT FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77--------------------------------| | | | || | | | ||For 23 52 42| | | ||Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25||Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|| | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|| | | | |--------------------------------| | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | || | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | || | Time 17 15 0 | ||Asc. 27 6 28| | || | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|| | |Jup -R 29 44 30|| | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|| | | || | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | || | | ||XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | || | |Nept-R 15 6 28|| | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|| | | || |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |--------------------------------| | | | ||Sat 28 35 2| | | ||X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | ||Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| ||Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3||Merc 13 29 15| | | ||Mars 8 8 59| | | ||X 0 12 25| | | |--------------------------------DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: SOOK Bal. Moon 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETSASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSESSIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCEA-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in HouseC-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps !HOUSE A B C D E F----ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo| | | | |SA:RA: |3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat| | |NEP: | |VE: |4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo| | | | |SU:RA: |7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun| | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven| | |NEP: | |VE: |9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat| | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket|MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer| | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |----PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting PlanetsSUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK These are : >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N AL.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028TEL: 2446 7314email: lyastro1BIRTH DETAILS OF DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATIONDAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANUTIME : 17 H. 18 M. 0 S. STAR : P.AshPLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; CHARANA : THIRDCOUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYAYONI : WANARALAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYALONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYALAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNILORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVARASI : Sagitarius-DhanusLORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANANAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVARSID.TIME : 17 H. 32 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANIAYANAMSA : 22 D. 49 M. 0 S.PRAHARA : 1stSUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4thCast By L.Y.RAO ON 24-08-2006Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77BIRTH DETAILS OF TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 110 Days ENDS ON 31 3 1938|------------------------------||RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------||ASC....... | |+JUP || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------|| | |+NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU ||VEN. SAT. | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART|------------------------------||+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS || | | |+PLU || | | | ||------------------------------||SUN. FOR. | | || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------||+URA | |MERC +NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Ven DASA 29 03 1918 -> 29 03 1938 |Sun DASA 29 03 1938 -> 29 03 1944|Sun Bhk. 29 03 1938 -> 17 07 1938|Moo Bhk. 17 07 1938 -> 17 01 1939|Mar Bhk. 17 01 1939 -> 23 05 1939|Rah Bhk. 23 05 1939 -> 17 04 1940|Jup Bhk. 17 04 1940 -> 05 02 1941|Sat Bhk. 05 02 1941 -> 17 01 1942Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 29 03 1934 |Mer Bhk. 17 01 1942 -> 23 11 1942Mer Bhk. 29 03 1934 -> 29 01 1937 |Ket Bhk. 23 11 1942 -> 29 03 1943Ket Bhk. 29 01 1937 -> 29 03 1938 |Ven Bhk. 29 03 1943 -> 29 03 1944Moo DASA 29 03 1944 -> 29 03 1954 |Mar DASA 29 03 1954 -> 29 03 1961Moo Bhk. 29 03 1944 -> 29 01 1945 |Mar Bhk. 29 03 1954 -> 26 08 1954Mar Bhk. 29 01 1945 -> 29 08 1945 |Rah Bhk. 26 08 1954 -> 14 09 1955Rah Bhk. 29 08 1945 -> 01 03 1947 |Jup Bhk. 14 09 1955 -> 20 08 1956Jup Bhk. 01 03 1947 -> 29 06 1948 |Sat Bhk. 20 08 1956 -> 29 09 1957Sat Bhk. 29 06 1948 -> 29 01 1950 |Mer Bhk. 29 09 1957 -> 26 09 1958Mer Bhk. 29 01 1950 -> 29 06 1951 |Ket Bhk. 26 09 1958 -> 23 02 1959Ket Bhk. 29 06 1951 -> 29 01 1952 |Ven Bhk. 23 02 1959 -> 23 04 1960Ven Bhk. 29 01 1952 -> 29 09 1953 |Sun Bhk. 23 04 1960 -> 29 08 1960Sun Bhk. 29 09 1953 -> 29 03 1954 |Moo Bhk. 29 08 1960 -> 29 03 1961Rah DASA 29 03 1961 -> 29 03 1979 |Jup DASA 29 03 1979 -> 29 03 1995Rah Bhk. 29 03 1961 -> 11 12 1963 |Jup Bhk. 29 03 1979 -> 17 05 1981Jup Bhk. 11 12 1963 -> 05 05 1966 |Sat Bhk. 17 05 1981 -> 29 11 1983Sat Bhk. 05 05 1966 -> 11 03 1969 |Mer Bhk. 29 11 1983 -> 05 03 1986Mer Bhk. 11 03 1969 -> 29 09 1971 |Ket Bhk. 05 03 1986 -> 11 02 1987Ket Bhk. 29 09 1971 -> 17 10 1972 |Ven Bhk. 11 02 1987 -> 11 10 1989Ven Bhk. 17 10 1972 -> 17 10 1975 |Sun Bhk. 11 10 1989 -> 29 07 1990Sun Bhk. 17 10 1975 -> 11 09 1976 |Moo Bhk. 29 07 1990 -> 29 11 1991Moo Bhk. 11 09 1976 -> 11 03 1978 |Mar Bhk. 29 11 1991 -> 05 11 1992Mar Bhk. 11 03 1978 -> 29 03 1979 |Rah Bhk. 05 11 1992 -> 29 03 1995Sat DASA 29 03 1995 -> 29 03 2014 |Mer DASA 29 03 2014 -> 29 03 2031Sat Bhk. 29 03 1995 -> 02 04 1998 |Mer Bhk. 29 03 2014 -> 26 08 2016Mer Bhk. 02 04 1998 -> 11 12 2000 |Ket Bhk. 26 08 2016 -> 23 08 2017Ket Bhk. 11 12 2000 -> 20 01 2002 |Ven Bhk. 23 08 2017 -> 23 06 2020Ven Bhk. 20 01 2002 -> 20 03 2005 |Sun Bhk. 23 06 2020 -> 29 04 2021Sun Bhk. 20 03 2005 -> 02 03 2006 |Moo Bhk. 29 04 2021 -> 29 09 2022Moo Bhk. 02 03 2006 -> 02 10 2007 |Mar Bhk. 29 09 2022 -> 26 09 2023Mar Bhk. 02 10 2007 -> 11 11 2008 |Rah Bhk. 26 09 2023 -> 14 04 2026Rah Bhk. 11 11 2008 -> 17 09 2011 |Jup Bhk. 14 04 2026 -> 20 07 2028Jup Bhk. 17 09 2011 -> 29 03 2014 |Sat Bhk. 20 07 2028 -> 29 03 2031Ket DASA 29 03 2031 -> 29 03 2038 |Ket Bhk. 29 03 2031 -> 26 08 2031 |Ven Bhk. 26 08 2031 -> 26 10 2032 |Sun Bhk. 26 10 2032 -> 02 03 2033 |Moo Bhk. 02 03 2033 -> 02 10 2033 |Mar Bhk. 02 10 2033 -> 01 03 2034 |Rah Bhk. 01 03 2034 -> 17 03 2035 |Jup Bhk. 17 03 2035 -> 23 02 2036 |Sat Bhk. 23 02 2036 -> 02 04 2037 |Mer Bhk. 02 04 2037 -> 29 03 2038 |W E S T E R N A S P E C T SPlan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT SUN. TRIN TRIN MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP MARS SQUR MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR JUP. 150 VEN. SQUR SQUR SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP RAHU OPP KETU URAN CONJ SQUR NEPT FOR. SQUR PLUT Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12thSUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL MOON SXTL 135 OPP CONJ Ssxt MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr MERC JUP. 150 TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP VEN. 135 OPP CONJ SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ RAHU KETU URAN SQUR SXTL NEPT FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.--------------------------------| | | | || | | | ||For 24 58 16| | | ||Uran-R 22 42 14| | |IV 0 58 7||Rahu 8 33 14|II 5 31 36|III 5 34 7|V 25 35 12|| | | |Plut-R 28 46 42|| | | | |--------------------------------| | NAME: | || | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | || | Time 17 18 0 | ||Asc. 28 10 26| | || | SID.TIME 17 h. 32 m. 55 s. |VI 23 19 42|| | |Jup -R 29 48 41|| | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|| | | || | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | || | | ||XII 23 19 42| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | || | |Nept-R 15 10 40|| | Ayan 22 d. 49 m. 0 s. |VII 28 10 26|| | | || |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |--------------------------------| | | | ||Sat 28 39 14| | | ||X1 25 35 12|Sun 25 40 4| | ||Moon 22 27 53|IX 5 34 7|VIII 5 31 36| ||Ven 19 21 30| | |Ketu 8 33 14||Merc 13 33 27| | | ||Mars 8 13 17| | | ||X 0 58 7| | | |--------------------------------DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 110 Days ENDS ON 31 3 1938BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 110 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 31 Days: SOOK Bal. Jup. 5 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETSASC Sat Jup Ven Sat :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup2nd Mar Ket Mar Moo :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat3rd Ven Sun Mer Ven :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven4th Mer Mar Mer Mar :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup5th Mer Jup Mer Sat :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.6th Moo Mer Moo Sun :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket 7th Sun Sun Moo Ket :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Jup 8th Ven Mar Sun Ven :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun 9th Mar Sat Mer Mer :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar 10th Jup Ket Ven Ven :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Sat 11th Jup Ven Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Mer 12th Sat Moo Sun Ven :FOR. Jup Mer Rah Sat :PLUT-R Mer Jup Sun Sun SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSESSIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCEA-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in HouseC-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps !HOUSE A B C D E F----ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Mar| | | | |SA:RA: |3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Mer| | |NEP: | |VE: |4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo| | | | |SU:RA: |7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Moo| | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sun| | |NEP: | |VE: |9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Mer| | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ven|MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer| | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun| | | | |KE: |----PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting PlanetsSUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 8,12,MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 6, 7,MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F- 2,MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 3, 4, 5, 9,11,JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1,10,SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F-RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK These are : >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dear Mukesh, 1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP Ayanamsa? 2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA? a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN (K.P. & ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91) b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003) Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group. c) In file section of this group under NEW KP AYANAMSA.doc NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR 3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned Khullar is not the New KPA? This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above references. 4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be shown later by calculation of reliable SWs. 5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in many many future lives by unantural death. Thanks and regards, tw , Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I was out of station for last few days, so I could not respond. Reactions of members on Cuspal Interlinks Theory and analysis of Acharaya Rajneesh's chart by Mr. Khullar are welcome. However, I would like to answer the questions raised by some learned members. > > > Latitude and Longitude of Place of Birth: Acharaya Rajneesh was born in Kuchwara village, Udaipura, Tehsil in District Raisen (Madhya Pradesh). The latitude and longitude have been verified from Kuchwara Mobile Tower using GPRS. These are : > > Longitude: 78.20.59 E > Latitude: 23.08.23 N. > > > K.P (New or Refined) Ayanamsa. : It is claimed that Mr. Krishnamurti follows the rate of precession of Equinoxes as given by Newcomb which is 50.2388475 seconds per year. I, Mr. Khullar and Dr. Srikant Ojha have spent number of hours to solve the riddle of this figure 50.2388475 because Newcomb's rate of precession as given in his book and accepted by Almanac is 50.2564 as on 1st of January 1900 with formula for further years as 50.2564+0.000222*(year- 1900) . Ultimately we have come to the conclusion that the figure 50.2388475 is averaged out taking into considerations all the parameters that cause for precession of equinoxes, including Nutation as linear rate. The Ayanamsa, on the date of birth of Acharaya Rajneesh as shown in the figure given by Mr. Khullar is correct. It has been verified by casting the horoscope using the following softwares: > > i. Gorvani Jyotish (U.S.A) V.2.26 > ii. Horosoft (Professional edition 4.0). Designed by Triple-S Software,NewDelhi. > iii. Astroworks designed by Softdata computers systems pvt ltd, ND. > iv. T.P Stellar Astrology Software developed by Dr. Srikant Ojha, Ph.D in Engg. Professor Govt. Enng College Jodhpur. Mob 09414127125 > > The chart cast by Mr. Khullar as per the KP (New) or KP (Refined) option in above softwares for Ayanamsa is correct and he has corrected and analysed chart accordingly. By using any other figure of Ayanamsa, the Sub-Sub will change and accordingly the Rectification of Birth Time will become incorrect and whole analysis will go in vein. Thus we cannot doubt the correctness of the analysis of the chart using any other value of Ayanamsa. > > 3. How to reconcile " Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces- says TW. It was a very interesting observation. I had to talk to Mr. Khullar. This is what he said: " In our sacred book Gita, lord Krishna says, " A yogi is he who feels attachment in detachment, and detachment in attachment. " The word disinterested here is used to explain Acharaya's detachment in attachment attitude. Literature on Acharaya Rajneesh makes it evidently clear that he was in the world and yet not of the world. " > > Who is First Inventor: The simple answer is no body. I may like to quote from Introduction of Book on Tables of Houses under the title `The case for Sidereal Zodiac'. > > " In ancient India they used a constellatory Zodiac. The star scientists of that time observed many changes within the thirty- degree zones mapped out by the zodiac and divided it into 27 nakshatra zones (constellation zones not to be confused with the principal fixed stars contained in them), each 13 degree 20 min in extent. They noted resemblances which have been found to manifest between traits of character and potential destinies of individuals born. When certain nakshatras (constellations) and their minutest subdivisions were rising at birth. In ancient India, the consideration of nakshatra and their subdivisions as zones of specific influence was, undisputedly,the most important " . > > Mr. Krishnamurti has also thrown hints on cuspal significations in his original writings. No body has moral right to claim to be inventor of cuspal Interlinks Theory. Mr. Khullar has made it clear that he has developed his theory based on Nakshatra, Navamsa and Nadiamsa concept but has not anywhere said that he is the inventor of Cuspal Interlinks Theory. His approach, however, is based on fundamental concepts of Stellar Astrology and is different from the approach of Mr. Bhaskaran. For example on page 10 (Para c) in " Principles of Cuspal Links " Book Mr. Bhaskaran says that if Jupiter is in the star or sub of the concerned " fifth cusp sub lord " , it can cause for the birth of a child. According to Mr. Khullar's approach, if Jupiter's star lord appears in 10th cuspal position/Bhava and its sub appears as the sub lord of the 5th cusp, it can cause adverse results in profession or can cause for the sale of property. It can not cause for the birth of the child. > > Dear members, I leave it to your judgement to value the writings of any Astrologer. Mr Khullar is not a professional Astrologer. But he is working with utmost devotion to provide the missing links in our ancient Astrology. His book " True Horoscope " has beautifully explained the relationship between Astrology and human being. His approach is original and he tries to provide the missing links, concepts and philosophy used in Astrology in a very rational and scientific way. > > Before I close I may like to inform Mr TinWin that there is a typing mistake in Example2 in Mr. Khullar's book page 176. The latitude and Longitude of the place are 72E54 and 23N34. > > Lot more can be said about invention of Cuspal Interlinks and controversies of Meena's but I would like to close here. > > With regards, > > Mukesh. > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji, > > Please check longitude. > > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA > > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA > > Regards, > > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear lajimi ji, > > > > If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th > and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore > of 7th then why he was unmarroed? > > > > second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet . > > > > Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly. > > > > regards > > Kanak > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote: > > Dears TinWinji & Kanak, > > Alongwith pl. find the > correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P. > > With kind regards, > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in > Khullar's > > Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in > > the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 > > charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will > see > > the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to > second > > as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using > of > > the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It > > is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same > > for any house system. In his " Basic & Traditional Concepts " , page > 10- > > 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or > > Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA. > > > > Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death > > during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of > > cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for > > short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon > > is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > Thanks for full details reply. > > > > > > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth > > data so i will check. > > > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my > > opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as > > 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event. > > > > > > > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY > > > > > > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > > > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not > > better > > > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks. > > > > > > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an > hindrance > > > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > > > books into English. > > > > > > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated > Khullar > > > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > > > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > > > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > > > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of > > Cuspal > > > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on > > the > > > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > > > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed > > two > > > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > > > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > > > > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name > of > > > less educated Meena after 50 years. > > > > > > 2. MEENA I & II > > > > > > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > > > author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , > (1st > > > Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi > Printing > > > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan > 1, > > > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication). > > > > > > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after > N. > > V. > > > Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based > on > > > Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II. > > > > > > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram > Sage > > > Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I. > > > > > > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR > > > > > > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and > 50 > > > years in stellar astrology. > > > > > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are > > almost > > > the same. > > > > > > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book > > Nadi > > > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late > > Sri > > > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > > > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > > > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > > > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated > by > > > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The > > Times > > > of Astrology) > > > > > > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, > mentioned > > in > > > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except > > Khullar > > > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > > > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > > > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what > ever > > it > > > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub > > sub, > > > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine > > planets > > > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > > > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the > divisions > > > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using > > these > > > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first > time > > > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. > & > > > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > > > > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA > > > > > > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena > unexpectedly > > > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his > > help > > > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > > > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to > > Raman > > > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > > > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, > worth > > > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > > > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with > the > > > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. > Raman: " My > > > Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9) > > > > > > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain > > his " paddhati " , > > > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning > > the > > > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239) > > > > > > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > > > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi > Jyotisha > > 3 > > > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in > natal > > > chart analysis and became basis for KP. > > > > > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > > > > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions > > whereas > > > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > > > Interlinks, page 200) > > > > > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE > > > > > > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given > importance > > > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and > > Shareera > > > planets. > > > > > > 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > > > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance > and > > > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide > events. > > > > > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA > > > > > > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which > he > > > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had > hitherto > > > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The > authors > > > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was > > possible > > > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to > > investigate > > > and understand the science correctly by the method herein > revealed. > > > > > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, > the > > > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years > > ago, > > > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling > Planets. > > > (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and > each > > > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of > Mahatma > > > Gandhi) > > > > > > 7. CRITICISM OF KP > > > > > > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest > in > > > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, > > , > > > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > > > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own > SWs. > > > > > > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in > > his > > > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > > > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > > > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the > > Lahiri > > > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > > > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > > > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big > deal > > > for him. > > > > > > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis > by > > > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and > > sub > > > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. > Rao > > > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page > > 86) > > > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > > > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence > > Jupiter > > > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page > > 191) > > > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled > by > > > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in > its > > > initial period and this resulted in death. > > > > > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm) > > > > > > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP > > name. > > > > > > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > > > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) > > Ayanamsa > > > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > > > closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. > By > > > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same > Moon > > > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted > > Ge > > > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > > > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > > > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > > > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc > 26:23:13 > > in > > > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help > me > > > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of > > heart > > > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to > > reconcile " Acharaya > > > had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls- Royces > > > below. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh > > > > > > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only > > increased > > > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, > or > > > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they > said > > > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of > > the > > > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). > > One > > > of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith > > > Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently > > > recruited homeless people from across the United States to > settle > > at > > > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the > ballot > > > box to seize control of Wasco County. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mukesh ji, > > > > > > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT. > > > > > > > > thanks for information. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak Ji, > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > > > Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research > > on > > > Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less > > > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good > > astrologer. > > > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > > > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > > > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though > both > > > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, > > while > > > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > > > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. > Similarly > > > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > > > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life. > > > > > > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > > > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably > > he > > > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. > > You > > > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not > > only > > > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > > > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also > > see > > > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal > Interlinks > > > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. > S. > > P. > > > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > > > book. > > > > > > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > > > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > > > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept > of > > > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > > > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > > > explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " > that > > > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > > > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners > we > > > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who > so > > > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > > > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical: > > > > > > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: > N.V.RAGHAVA > > > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of > > astro > > > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad. > > > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:- > > > > PREFACE ** > > > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > > > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to > > an > > > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > > > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > > > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where > > my > > > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come > in > > > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara > Sastriar > > > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > > > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > > > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology. > > > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter > > the > > > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city > > > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a > > signaller > > > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman > intrest > > in > > > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons > ensued > > on > > > verious system of astrology. > > > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > > > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > > > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose > son > > > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > > > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > > > verses and proverbs relating to astrology. > > > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > > > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of > astrology > > in > > > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was > asked > > to > > > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped > > into > > > a book from publication. > > > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > > > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd > sri.Budha > > > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed > > astrology.so > > > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the > > field > > > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to > crack > > > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of > the > > > cgarts openly and clearly. > > > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > > > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada > > > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA > Rasi.Iwas > > > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther > my > > > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA > > Rasi > > > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were > liminaries > > > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and > Vrischika.As > > > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in > our > > > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > > > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader. > > > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay > > presidency > > > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i > > come > > > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking > law > > > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > > > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > > > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but > > his > > > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life > > and > > > had own difficulties in the family too. > > > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > > > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give > > him > > > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i > did > > > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > > > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > > > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in > the > > > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of > the > > > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its > publication. > > > possibly the world is such. > > > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i > > was > > > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i > > did > > > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > > > revised edition of the published books for which i did not > > cooprate > > > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > > > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago. > > > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > > > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > > > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > > > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > > > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded > > me > > > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by > me > > in > > > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of > mine > > > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression > > that > > > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to > service. > > > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was > > instumental > > > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my > > seclusion.i > > > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering > > me > > > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts. > > > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the > > readers > > > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large > > extent > > > of accuracy and precision. > > > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > > > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts. > > > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > > > CHARY > > > > AUTHOR > > > > ** > > > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the > above > > > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son > Sri.Raja > > > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same > the > > > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in > its > > > original form. > > > > Point from Kanak: > > > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther. > > > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > > > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao. > > > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about > > MEENA's > > > given rules are how ifective? > > > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > > > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect > for > > > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao > please > > > pass by Pranam to him. > > > > > > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > > > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and > this > > is > > > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga. > > > > > > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day > it > > > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > > > I agree with you because: > > > > > > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the > Railways > > > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi > > > > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > > > printing, > > > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > > > educated > > > > than Basakaran.) > > > > > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS > OF > > > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > > > published > > > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as > in > > > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th > century > > > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy > are > > > the > > > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and > Meena > > > > second. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > > > the supply of Khullar's books. > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear mukesh ji, > > > > > > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first > > introduce > > > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar, > > > > > > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on > > telephone > > > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i > am > > MD > > > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > > > uneducational person.? > > > > > > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > > > sucess > > > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass > > only > > > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him > > that > > > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i > say > > > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call. > > > > > > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with > me, > > > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question. > > > > > > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready > > to > > > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one > more > > > > rude tolk with him!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote: > > > > > Dear all Readers, > > > > > > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done > research > > > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > > > Fourth > > > > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal > > Interlinks " . > > > > in > > > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya > Rajneesh. > > > The > > > > > same is being uploaded to file section. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- > Phone > > > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > > Version 8. 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STAR : P.Ash > > > > PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; > > CHARANA : THIRD > > > > COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA > > > > YONI : WANARA > > > > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA > > > > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA > > > > LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI > > > > LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA > > > > RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus > > > > LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS] > > > > NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA > > > > NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13 > > > > TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR > > > > SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI > > > > AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S. > > PRAHARA : 1st > > > > SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th > > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006 > > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji > > TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE > > > > NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938 > > > > |-------------------------| > > |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-------------------------| > > |ASC....... | |+JUP | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |---------------| |---------------| > > | | |+NEP | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-------------------------| > > |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU | > > |VEN. SAT. | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-------------------------| > > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART > > > > |-------------------------| > > |+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS | > > | | | |+PLU | > > | | | | | > > |-------------------------| > > |SUN. FOR. | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |---------------| |---------------| > > |+URA | |MERC +NEP | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-------------------------| > > |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-------------------------| > > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES > > > > Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 > 1944 > > |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938 > > |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939 > > |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939 > > |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940 > > |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941 > > |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942 > > Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 > 1943 > > Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 > 1943 > > Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 > 1944 > > > > Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 > 1961 > > Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 > 1954 > > Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 > 1955 > > Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 > 1956 > > Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 > 1957 > > Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 > 1958 > > Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 > 1959 > > Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 > 1960 > > Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 > 1960 > > Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 > 1961 > > > > Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 > 1995 > > Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 > 1981 > > Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 > 1984 > > Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 > 1986 > > Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 > 1987 > > Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 > 1989 > > Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 > 1990 > > Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 > 1992 > > Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 > 1992 > > Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 > 1995 > > > > Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 > 2031 > > Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 > 2016 > > Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 > 2017 > > Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 > 2020 > > Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 > 2021 > > Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 > 2022 > > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 > 2023 > > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 > 2026 > > Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 > 2028 > > Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 > 2031 > > > > Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 | > > Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 | > > Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 | > > Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 | > > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 | > > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 | > > Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 | > > Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 | > > Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 | > > Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W E S T E R N A S P E C T S > > > > Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. > PLUT > > > > SUN. TRIN TRIN > > MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP > > MARS SQUR > > MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR > > JUP. 150 > > VEN. SQUR SQUR > > SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP > > RAHU OPP > > KETU > > URAN CONJ SQUR > > NEPT > > FOR. SQUR > > PLUT > > > > > > > > Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th > > > > SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL > > MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt > > MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr > > MERC > > JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP > > VEN. 135 OPP CONJ > > SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ > > RAHU > > KETU > > URAN SQUR SXTL > > NEPT > > FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN > > PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP > > > > > > > > ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg. > > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 > > > > ------------------------- > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |For 23 52 42| | | | > > |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25| > > |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58| > > | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31| > > | | | | | > > ------------------------- > > | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | | > > | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | | > > | | Time 17 15 0 | | > > |Asc. 27 6 28| | | > > | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33| > > | | |Jup -R 29 44 30| > > | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | | > > | | | | > > :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------| > > | | | | > > | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | | > > | | | | > > |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | | > > | | |Nept-R 15 6 28| > > | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28| > > | | | | > > | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | | > > ------------------------- > > | | | | | > > |Sat 28 35 2| | | | > > |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | | > > |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| | > > |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3| > > |Merc 13 29 15| | | | > > |Mars 8 8 59| | | | > > |X 0 12 25| | | | > > ------------------------- > > > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938 > > BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: > > SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days > > > > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS > > ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup > > 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat > > 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven > > 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup > > 5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN. > > 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket > > 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah > > 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun > > 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar > > 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup > > 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat > > 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven > > :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES > > > > SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE > > A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House > > C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets > > Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord > > Check Lords of planets near cusps ! > > > > HOUSE A B C D E F > > ------------------------- > --- > > ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven > > | | | | |KE: | > > 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo > > | | | | |SA:RA: | > > 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat > > | | |NEP: | |VE: | > > 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer > > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: | > > 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer > > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: | > > 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo > > | | | | |SU:RA: | > > 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun > > | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA| > > 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven > > | | |NEP: | |VE: | > > 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat > > | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE| > > 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket > > |MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA| > > 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer > > | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE| > > 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven > > | | | | |KE: | > > ------------------------- > --- > > > > PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets > > > > SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7, > > MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6, > > MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F- > > MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11, > > JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F- > > VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12, > > SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9, > > RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F- > > KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10, > > URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F- > > NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F- > > FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F- > > PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F- > > > > RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also > > KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also > > Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned > > Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK > > These are : > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. 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Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dear Mukesh ji, Thanks for you educative reply.i dont know mutch about aymansha and software bcoz i am also 12th Pass uneducated person and i dont know what is aynamsha, what is calculations,etc, so agian i reply you only that: YES BOSS YOU ARE RIGHT About Lon-Lat : i have mention referance of KUCHWARA lon.-lat this is a most trusted site in worlds astrologer.also you have to do gecentric correction in lon-lat i hope you have do this in calculation, About software: all are new name for me only one goravani i hear. but i have only two software developed specialy for KP Only are Raichur's and KPAstro 2.5 Many other software also avilble with KP future but thay are not only for KP. AGAINI REPEAT: YES BOSS YOU ARE RIGHT ,NOT RIGHT BUT ALL WAYS RIGHT. Regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Mukesh,1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP Ayanamsa?2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA?a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN (K.P. & ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91)b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003)Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group.c) In file section of this group underNEW KP AYANAMSA.doc NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned Khullar is not the New KPA? This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above references.4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be shown later by calculation of reliable SWs.5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in many many future lives by unantural death.Thanks and regards,tw , Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote:>> Dear Members,> > I was out of station for last few days, so I could not respond. Reactions of members on Cuspal Interlinks Theory and analysis of Acharaya Rajneesh's chart by Mr. Khullar are welcome. However, I would like to answer the questions raised by some learned members.> > > Latitude and Longitude of Place of Birth: Acharaya Rajneesh was born in Kuchwara village, Udaipura, Tehsil in District Raisen (Madhya Pradesh). The latitude and longitude have been verified from Kuchwara Mobile Tower using GPRS. These are :> > Longitude: 78.20.59 E> Latitude: 23.08.23 N.> > > K.P (New or Refined) Ayanamsa. : It is claimed that Mr. Krishnamurti follows the rate of precession of Equinoxes as given by Newcomb which is 50.2388475 seconds per year. I, Mr. Khullar and Dr. Srikant Ojha have spent number of hours to solve the riddle of this figure 50.2388475 because Newcomb's rate of precession as given in his book and accepted by Almanac is 50.2564 as on 1st of January 1900 with formula for further years as 50.2564+0.000222*(year-1900) . Ultimately we have come to the conclusion that the figure 50.2388475 is averaged out taking into considerations all the parameters that cause for precession of equinoxes, including Nutation as linear rate. The Ayanamsa, on the date of birth of Acharaya Rajneesh as shown in the figure given by Mr. Khullar is correct. It has been verified by casting the horoscope using the following softwares:> > i. Gorvani Jyotish (U.S.A) V.2.26> ii. Horosoft (Professional edition 4.0). Designed by Triple-S Software,NewDelhi.> iii. Astroworks designed by Softdata computers systems pvt ltd, ND.> iv. T.P Stellar Astrology Software developed by Dr. Srikant Ojha, Ph.D in Engg. Professor Govt. Enng College Jodhpur. Mob 09414127125> > The chart cast by Mr. Khullar as per the KP (New) or KP (Refined) option in above softwares for Ayanamsa is correct and he has corrected and analysed chart accordingly. By using any other figure of Ayanamsa, the Sub-Sub will change and accordingly the Rectification of Birth Time will become incorrect and whole analysis will go in vein. Thus we cannot doubt the correctness of the analysis of the chart using any other value of Ayanamsa. > > 3. How to reconcile "Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces- says TW. It was a very interesting observation. I had to talk to Mr. Khullar. This is what he said: "In our sacred book Gita, lord Krishna says, "A yogi is he who feels attachment in detachment, and detachment in attachment." The word disinterested here is used to explain Acharaya's detachment in attachment attitude. Literature on Acharaya Rajneesh makes it evidently clear that he was in the world and yet not of the world."> > Who is First Inventor: The simple answer is no body. I may like to quote from Introduction of Book on Tables of Houses under the title `The case for Sidereal Zodiac'.> > "In ancient India they used a constellatory Zodiac. The star scientists of that time observed many changes within the thirty-degree zones mapped out by the zodiac and divided it into 27 nakshatra zones (constellation zones not to be confused with the principal fixed stars contained in them), each 13 degree 20 min in extent. They noted resemblances which have been found to manifest between traits of character and potential destinies of individuals born. When certain nakshatras (constellations) and their minutest subdivisions were rising at birth. In ancient India, the consideration of nakshatra and their subdivisions as zones of specific influence was, undisputedly,the most important".> > Mr. Krishnamurti has also thrown hints on cuspal significations in his original writings. No body has moral right to claim to be inventor of cuspal Interlinks Theory. Mr. Khullar has made it clear that he has developed his theory based on Nakshatra, Navamsa and Nadiamsa concept but has not anywhere said that he is the inventor of Cuspal Interlinks Theory. His approach, however, is based on fundamental concepts of Stellar Astrology and is different from the approach of Mr. Bhaskaran. For example on page 10 (Para c) in "Principles of Cuspal Links" Book Mr. Bhaskaran says that if Jupiter is in the star or sub of the concerned "fifth cusp sub lord", it can cause for the birth of a child. According to Mr. Khullar's approach, if Jupiter's star lord appears in 10th cuspal position/Bhava and its sub appears as the sub lord of the 5th cusp, it can cause adverse results in profession or can cause for the sale of property. It can not cause for the birth of the child.> > Dear members, I leave it to your judgement to value the writings of any Astrologer. Mr Khullar is not a professional Astrologer. But he is working with utmost devotion to provide the missing links in our ancient Astrology. His book "True Horoscope" has beautifully explained the relationship between Astrology and human being. His approach is original and he tries to provide the missing links, concepts and philosophy used in Astrology in a very rational and scientific way.> > Before I close I may like to inform Mr TinWin that there is a typing mistake in Example2 in Mr. Khullar's book page 176. The latitude and Longitude of the place are 72E54 and 23N34.> > Lot more can be said about invention of Cuspal Interlinks and controversies of Meena's but I would like to close here.> > With regards,> > Mukesh.> > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,> > Please check longitude.> > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > Regards,> > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear lajimi ji,> > > > If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th > and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore > of 7th then why he was unmarroed?> > > > second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet .> > > > Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly.> > > > regards> > Kanak> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote:> > Dears TinWinji & Kanak,> > Alongwith pl. find the > correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P.> > With kind regards,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in > Khullar's > > Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in > > the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 > > charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will > see > > the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to > second > > as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using > of > > the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It > > is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same > > for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page > 10-> > 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or > > Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.> > > > Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death > > during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of > > cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for > > short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon > > is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Thanks for full details reply.> > > > > > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth > > data so i will check.> > > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my > > opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as > > 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > > > > > > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > > > > > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > > > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not > > better > > > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > > > > > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an > hindrance > > > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > > > books into English.> > > > > > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated > Khullar > > > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > > > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > > > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > > > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of > > Cuspal > > > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on > > the > > > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > > > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed > > two > > > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > > > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > > > > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name > of > > > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > > > > > 2. MEENA I & II> > > > > > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > > > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", > (1st > > > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi > Printing > > > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan > 1, > > > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > > > > > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after > N. > > V. > > > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based > on > > > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > > > > > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram > Sage > > > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > > > > > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > > > > > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and > 50 > > > years in stellar astrology.> > > > > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are > > almost > > > the same.> > > > > > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book > > Nadi > > > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late > > Sri > > > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > > > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > > > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > > > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated > by > > > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The > > Times > > > of Astrology)> > > > > > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, > mentioned > > in > > > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except > > Khullar > > > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > > > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > > > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what > ever > > it > > > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub > > sub, > > > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine > > planets > > > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > > > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the > divisions > > > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using > > these > > > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first > time > > > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. > & > > > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > > > > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > > > > > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena > unexpectedly > > > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his > > help > > > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > > > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to > > Raman > > > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > > > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, > worth > > > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > > > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with > the > > > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. > Raman: "My > > > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > > > > > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain > > his "paddhati", > > > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning > > the > > > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > > > > > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > > > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi > Jyotisha > > 3 > > > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in > natal > > > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > > > > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > > > > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions > > whereas > > > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > > > Interlinks, page 200) > > > > > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > > > > > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given > importance > > > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and > > Shareera > > > planets.> > > > > > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > > > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance > and > > > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide > events.> > > > > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > > > > > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which > he > > > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had > hitherto > > > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The > authors > > > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was > > possible > > > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to > > investigate > > > and understand the science correctly by the method herein > revealed.> > > > > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, > the > > > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years > > ago, > > > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling > Planets. > > > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and > each > > > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of > Mahatma > > > Gandhi)> > > > > > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > > > > > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest > in > > > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, > > , > > > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > > > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own > SWs.> > > > > > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in > > his > > > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > > > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > > > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the > > Lahiri > > > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > > > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > > > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big > deal > > > for him.> > > > > > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis > by > > > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and > > sub > > > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. > Rao > > > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page > > 86) > > > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > > > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence > > Jupiter > > > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page > > 191) > > > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled > by > > > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in > its > > > initial period and this resulted in death. > > > > > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > > > > > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP > > name.> > > > > > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > > > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) > > Ayanamsa > > > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > > > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. > By > > > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same > Moon > > > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted > > Ge > > > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > > > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > > > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > > > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc > 26:23:13 > > in > > > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help > me > > > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of > > heart > > > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to > > reconcile "Acharaya > > > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > > > below. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > > > > > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only > > increased > > > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, > or > > > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they > said > > > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of > > the > > > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). > > One > > > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > > > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > > > recruited homeless people from across the United States to > settle > > at > > > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the > ballot > > > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > > > > > thanks for information.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak Ji,> > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > > > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research > > on > > > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > > > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good > > astrologer. > > > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > > > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > > > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though > both > > > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, > > while > > > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > > > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. > Similarly > > > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > > > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > > > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > > > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably > > he > > > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. > > You > > > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not > > only > > > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > > > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also > > see > > > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal > Interlinks > > > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. > S. > > P. > > > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > > > book.> > > > > > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > > > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > > > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept > of > > > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > > > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > > > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" > that > > > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > > > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners > we > > > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who > so > > > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > > > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > > > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: > N.V.RAGHAVA > > > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of > > astro > > > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > > > PREFACE **> > > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > > > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to > > an > > > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > > > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > > > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where > > my > > > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come > in > > > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara > Sastriar> > > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > > > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > > > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter > > the > > > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> > > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a > > signaller > > > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman > intrest > > in > > > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons > ensued > > on > > > verious system of astrology.> > > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > > > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > > > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose > son > > > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > > > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > > > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > > > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of > astrology > > in > > > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was > asked > > to > > > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped > > into > > > a book from publication.> > > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > > > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd > sri.Budha > > > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed > > astrology.so > > > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the > > field > > > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to > crack > > > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of > the > > > cgarts openly and clearly.> > > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > > > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> > > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA > Rasi.Iwas > > > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther > my > > > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA > > Rasi > > > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were > liminaries > > > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and > Vrischika.As > > > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in > our > > > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > > > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay > > presidency > > > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i > > come > > > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking > law > > > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > > > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > > > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but > > his > > > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life > > and > > > had own difficulties in the family too.> > > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > > > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give > > him > > > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i > did > > > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > > > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > > > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in > the > > > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of > the > > > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its > publication. > > > possibly the world is such.> > > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i > > was > > > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i > > did > > > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > > > revised edition of the published books for which i did not > > cooprate > > > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > > > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > > > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > > > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > > > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > > > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded > > me > > > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by > me > > in > > > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of > mine > > > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression > > that > > > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to > service.> > > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was > > instumental > > > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my > > seclusion.i > > > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering > > me > > > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the > > readers > > > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large > > extent > > > of accuracy and precision.> > > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > > > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > > > CHARY> > > > AUTHOR> > > > **> > > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the > above > > > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son > Sri.Raja > > > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same > the > > > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in > its > > > original form.> > > > Point from Kanak:> > > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > > > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about > > MEENA's > > > given rules are how ifective?> > > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > > > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect > for > > > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao > please > > > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > > > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > > > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and > this > > is > > > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > > > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day > it > > > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kanak> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > I agree with you because:> > > > > > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the > Railways > > > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > > > printing, > > > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > > > educated > > > > than Basakaran.)> > > > > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS > OF > > > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > > > published > > > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as > in > > > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th > century > > > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy > are > > > the > > > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and > Meena > > > > second. > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first > > introduce > > > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on > > telephone > > > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i > am > > MD > > > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > > > sucess > > > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass > > only > > > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him > > that > > > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i > say > > > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with > me, > > > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready > > to > > > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one > more > > > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > > > > > best wishes> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done > research > > > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > > > Fourth > > > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal > > Interlinks". > > > > in > > > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya > Rajneesh. > > > The > > > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-> Phone > > > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > > Version 8. 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STAR : P.Ash> > > > PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; > > CHARANA : THIRD> > > > COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA> > > > YONI : WANARA> > > > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > > > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > > > LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI> > > > LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA> > > > RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus> > > > LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]> > > > NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA> > > > NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13> > > > TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR> > > > SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI> > > > AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.> > PRAHARA : 1st> > > > SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th> > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> > TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE > > > > NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > > > |-------------------------|> > |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |ASC....... | |+JUP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |---------------| |---------------|> > | | |+NEP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU |> > |VEN. SAT. | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART> > > > |-------------------------|> > |+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS |> > | | | |+PLU |> > | | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |SUN. FOR. | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |---------------| |---------------|> > |+URA | |MERC +NEP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES > > > > Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 > 1944> > |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938> > |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939> > |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939> > |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940> > |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941> > |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942> > Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 > 1943> > Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 > 1943> > Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 > 1944> > > > Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 > 1961> > Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 > 1954> > Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 > 1955> > Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 > 1956> > Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 > 1957> > Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 > 1958> > Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 > 1959> > Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 > 1960> > Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 > 1960> > Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 > 1961> > > > Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 > 1995> > Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 > 1981> > Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 > 1984> > Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 > 1986> > Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 > 1987> > Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 > 1989> > Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 > 1990> > Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 > 1992> > Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 > 1992> > Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 > 1995> > > > Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 > 2031> > Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 > 2016> > Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 > 2017> > Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 > 2020> > Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 > 2021> > Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 > 2022> > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 > 2023> > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 > 2026> > Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 > 2028> > Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 > 2031> > > > Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |> > Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |> > Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |> > Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |> > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |> > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |> > Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |> > Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |> > Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |> > Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W E S T E R N A S P E C T S> > > > Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. > PLUT > > > > SUN. TRIN TRIN > > MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP > > MARS SQUR > > MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR > > JUP. 150 > > VEN. SQUR SQUR > > SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP > > RAHU OPP > > KETU > > URAN CONJ SQUR > > NEPT > > FOR. SQUR > > PLUT > > > > > > > > Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th> > > > SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL > > MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt > > MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr > > MERC > > JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP > > VEN. 135 OPP CONJ > > SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ > > RAHU > > KETU > > URAN SQUR SXTL > > NEPT > > FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN > > PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP > > > > > > > > ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.> > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > -------------------------> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |For 23 52 42| | | |> > |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|> > |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|> > | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|> > | | | | |> > -------------------------> > | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |> > | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |> > | | Time 17 15 0 | |> > |Asc. 27 6 28| | |> > | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|> > | | |Jup -R 29 44 30|> > | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |> > | | | |> > :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|> > | | | |> > | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |> > | | | |> > |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |> > | | |Nept-R 15 6 28|> > | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|> > | | | |> > | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |> > -------------------------> > | | | | |> > |Sat 28 35 2| | | |> > |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |> > |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| |> > |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|> > |Merc 13 29 15| | | |> > |Mars 8 8 59| | | |> > |X 0 12 25| | | |> > -------------------------> > > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: > > SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days> > > > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS> > ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup> > 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat> > 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven> > 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup> > 5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.> > 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket > > 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah > > 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun > > 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar > > 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup > > 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat > > 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven > > :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES> > > > SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE> > A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House> > C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets > > Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord > > Check Lords of planets near cusps !> > > > HOUSE A B C D E F> > -------------------------> ---> > ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> > | | | | |KE: |> > 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo> > | | | | |SA:RA: |> > 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat> > | | |NEP: | |VE: |> > 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> > 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> > 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo> > | | | | |SU:RA: |> > 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun> > | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|> > 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven> > | | |NEP: | |VE: |> > 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat> > | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|> > 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket> > |MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|> > 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer> > | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|> > 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> > | | | | |KE: |> > -------------------------> ---> > > > PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets> > > > SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,> > MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,> > MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-> > MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,> > JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-> > VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,> > SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,> > RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-> > KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,> > URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> > NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-> > FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> > PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-> > > > RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also > > KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also > > Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned > > Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK > > These are : > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. 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Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Just for everybody's information, Khullar ji uses an ayanamsa which is very close to the Lahiri ayanamsa but not exactly the same. I have not read his book but believe that formula would have been given it that. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 8/22/06, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same for any house system. In his " Basic & Traditional Concepts " , page 10- 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > Thanks for full details reply.> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check.> about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > regards> kanak> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > books into English.> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > less educated Meena after 50 years. > > 2. MEENA I & II> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , (1st > Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan 1, > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. > Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram Sage > Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > years in stellar astrology. > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost > the same.> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times > of Astrology)> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: " My > Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his " paddhati " , > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > Interlinks, page 200) > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera > planets.> > 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events. > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed. > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and each > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > Gandhi)> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R .. > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > for him.> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page 86) > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > initial period and this resulted in death. > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile " Acharaya > had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces > below. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One > of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith > Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > thanks for information. > > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak Ji,> > Regards,> > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research on > Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > book.> > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " that > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > With regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:- > > PREFACE **> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on > verious system of astrology.> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > verses and proverbs relating to astrology. > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into > a book from publication.> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > cgarts openly and clearly.> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and > had own difficulties in the family too.> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > possibly the world is such.> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago. > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service. > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent > of accuracy and precision.> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > CHARY> > AUTHOR> > **> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > original form.> > Point from Kanak:> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's > given rules are how ifective?> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > Regards> > Kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak, > > > > I agree with you because:> > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi > > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > printing, > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > educated > > than Basakaran.) > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > published > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > the > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > second. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > sucess > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call. > > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > best wishes> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > Fourth > > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal Interlinks " . > > in > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > The > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? 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Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Mukesh ji and friends, I would propose to use term " KP (Khullar) " for Khullar ji's ayanamsa. " KP (New) " is always accepted term for the new calculation for KP ayanamsa, as mentioned by Tw ji. Using term " KP (New) " for Khullar ji's ayanamsa create confusion among members. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 8/26/06, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Mukesh,1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP Ayanamsa?2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA?a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN ( K.P. & ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91)b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003)Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group.c) In file section of this group underNEW KP AYANAMSA.doc NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned Khullar is not the New KPA? This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above references.4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be shown later by calculation of reliable SWs.5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in many many future lives by unantural death. Thanks and regards,tw , Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote: >> Dear Members,> > I was out of station for last few days, so I could not respond. Reactions of members on Cuspal Interlinks Theory and analysis of Acharaya Rajneesh's chart by Mr. Khullar are welcome. However, I would like to answer the questions raised by some learned members.> > > Latitude and Longitude of Place of Birth: Acharaya Rajneesh was born in Kuchwara village, Udaipura, Tehsil in District Raisen (Madhya Pradesh). The latitude and longitude have been verified from Kuchwara Mobile Tower using GPRS. These are :> > Longitude: 78.20.59 E> Latitude: 23.08.23 N.> > > K.P (New or Refined) Ayanamsa. : It is claimed that Mr. Krishnamurti follows the rate of precession of Equinoxes as given by Newcomb which is 50.2388475 seconds per year. I, Mr. Khullar and Dr. Srikant Ojha have spent number of hours to solve the riddle of this figure 50.2388475 because Newcomb's rate of precession as given in his book and accepted by Almanac is 50.2564 as on 1st of January 1900 with formula for further years as 50.2564+0.000222*(year-1900) . Ultimately we have come to the conclusion that the figure 50.2388475 is averaged out taking into considerations all the parameters that cause for precession of equinoxes, including Nutation as linear rate. The Ayanamsa, on the date of birth of Acharaya Rajneesh as shown in the figure given by Mr. Khullar is correct. It has been verified by casting the horoscope using the following softwares:> > i. Gorvani Jyotish (U.S.A) V.2.26> ii. Horosoft (Professional edition 4.0). Designed by Triple-S Software,NewDelhi. > iii. Astroworks designed by Softdata computers systems pvt ltd, ND.> iv. T.P Stellar Astrology Software developed by Dr. Srikant Ojha, Ph.D in Engg. Professor Govt. Enng College Jodhpur. Mob 09414127125 > > The chart cast by Mr. Khullar as per the KP (New) or KP (Refined) option in above softwares for Ayanamsa is correct and he has corrected and analysed chart accordingly. By using any other figure of Ayanamsa, the Sub-Sub will change and accordingly the Rectification of Birth Time will become incorrect and whole analysis will go in vein. Thus we cannot doubt the correctness of the analysis of the chart using any other value of Ayanamsa. > > 3. How to reconcile " Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces- says TW. It was a very interesting observation. I had to talk to Mr. Khullar. This is what he said: " In our sacred book Gita, lord Krishna says, " A yogi is he who feels attachment in detachment, and detachment in attachment. " The word disinterested here is used to explain Acharaya's detachment in attachment attitude. Literature on Acharaya Rajneesh makes it evidently clear that he was in the world and yet not of the world. " > > Who is First Inventor: The simple answer is no body. I may like to quote from Introduction of Book on Tables of Houses under the title `The case for Sidereal Zodiac'.> > " In ancient India they used a constellatory Zodiac. The star scientists of that time observed many changes within the thirty-degree zones mapped out by the zodiac and divided it into 27 nakshatra zones (constellation zones not to be confused with the principal fixed stars contained in them), each 13 degree 20 min in extent. They noted resemblances which have been found to manifest between traits of character and potential destinies of individuals born. When certain nakshatras (constellations) and their minutest subdivisions were rising at birth. In ancient India, the consideration of nakshatra and their subdivisions as zones of specific influence was, undisputedly,the most important " . > > Mr. Krishnamurti has also thrown hints on cuspal significations in his original writings. No body has moral right to claim to be inventor of cuspal Interlinks Theory. Mr. Khullar has made it clear that he has developed his theory based on Nakshatra, Navamsa and Nadiamsa concept but has not anywhere said that he is the inventor of Cuspal Interlinks Theory. His approach, however, is based on fundamental concepts of Stellar Astrology and is different from the approach of Mr. Bhaskaran. For example on page 10 (Para c) in " Principles of Cuspal Links " Book Mr. Bhaskaran says that if Jupiter is in the star or sub of the concerned " fifth cusp sub lord " , it can cause for the birth of a child. According to Mr. Khullar's approach, if Jupiter's star lord appears in 10th cuspal position/Bhava and its sub appears as the sub lord of the 5th cusp, it can cause adverse results in profession or can cause for the sale of property. It can not cause for the birth of the child. > > Dear members, I leave it to your judgement to value the writings of any Astrologer. Mr Khullar is not a professional Astrologer. But he is working with utmost devotion to provide the missing links in our ancient Astrology. His book " True Horoscope " has beautifully explained the relationship between Astrology and human being. His approach is original and he tries to provide the missing links, concepts and philosophy used in Astrology in a very rational and scientific way.> > Before I close I may like to inform Mr TinWin that there is a typing mistake in Example2 in Mr. Khullar's book page 176. The latitude and Longitude of the place are 72E54 and 23N34.> > Lot more can be said about invention of Cuspal Interlinks and controversies of Meena's but I would like to close here.> > With regards, > > Mukesh.> > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji, > > Please check longitude.> > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > Regards, > > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear lajimi ji,> > > > If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th > and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore > of 7th then why he was unmarroed?> > > > second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet .> > > > Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly.> > > > regards> > Kanak> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote:> > Dears TinWinji & Kanak,> > Alongwith pl. find the > correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P.> > With kind regards,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak, > > > > In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in > Khullar's > > Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in > > the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 > > charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will > see > > the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to > second > > as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using > of > > the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It > > is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same > > for any house system. In his " Basic & Traditional Concepts " , page > 10-> > 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or > > Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.> > > > Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death > > during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of > > cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for > > short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon > > is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Thanks for full details reply.> > > > > > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth > > data so i will check.> > > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my > > opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as > > 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > > > > > > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > > > > > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > > > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not > > better > > > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > > > > > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an > hindrance > > > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > > > books into English.> > > > > > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated > Khullar > > > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > > > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > > > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > > > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of > > Cuspal > > > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on > > the > > > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > > > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed > > two > > > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > > > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > > > > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name > of > > > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > > > > > 2. MEENA I & II> > > > > > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > > > author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , > (1st > > > Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi > Printing > > > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan > 1, > > > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > > > > > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after > N. > > V. > > > Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based > on > > > Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > > > > > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram > Sage > > > Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > > > > > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > > > > > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and > 50 > > > years in stellar astrology.> > > > > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are > > almost > > > the same.> > > > > > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book > > Nadi > > > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late > > Sri > > > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > > > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > > > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > > > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated > by > > > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The > > Times > > > of Astrology)> > > > > > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, > mentioned > > in > > > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except > > Khullar > > > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > > > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > > > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what > ever > > it > > > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub > > sub, > > > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine > > planets > > > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > > > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the > divisions > > > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using > > these > > > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first > time > > > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. > & > > > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > > > > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA > > > > > > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena > unexpectedly > > > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his > > help > > > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > > > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to > > Raman > > > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > > > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, > worth > > > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > > > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with > the > > > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. ( B.V. > Raman: " My > > > Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > > > > > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain > > his " paddhati " , > > > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning > > the > > > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > > > > > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > > > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi > Jyotisha > > 3 > > > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in > natal > > > chart analysis and became basis for KP. > > > > > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > > > > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions > > whereas > > > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > > > Interlinks, page 200) > > > > > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE > > > > > > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given > importance > > > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and > > Shareera > > > planets. > > > > > > 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > > > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance > and > > > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide > events.> > > > > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > > > > > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which > he > > > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had > hitherto > > > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The > authors > > > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was > > possible > > > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to > > investigate > > > and understand the science correctly by the method herein > revealed.> > > > > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, > the > > > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years > > ago, > > > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling > Planets. > > > (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and > each > > > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of > Mahatma > > > Gandhi)> > > > > > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > > > > > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest > in > > > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, > > , > > > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > > > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own > SWs.> > > > > > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in > > his > > > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > > > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > > > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the > > Lahiri > > > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > > > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > > > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big > deal > > > for him.> > > > > > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis > by > > > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and > > sub > > > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. > Rao > > > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page > > 86) > > > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > > > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence > > Jupiter > > > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page > > 191) > > > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled > by > > > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in > its > > > initial period and this resulted in death. > > > > > > ( http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > > > > > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP > > name.> > > > > > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > > > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) > > Ayanamsa > > > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > > > closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. > By > > > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same > Moon > > > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted > > Ge > > > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > > > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > > > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > > > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc > 26:23:13 > > in > > > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help > me > > > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of > > heart > > > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to > > reconcile " Acharaya > > > had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls- Royces > > > below. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh > > > > > > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only > > increased > > > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, > or > > > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they > said > > > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of > > the > > > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). > > One > > > of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith > > > Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently > > > recruited homeless people from across the United States to > settle > > at > > > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the > ballot > > > box to seize control of Wasco County. > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT. > > > > > > > > thanks for information.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak Ji,> > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > > > Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research > > on > > > Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less > > > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good > > astrologer. > > > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > > > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > > > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though > both > > > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, > > while > > > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > > > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. > Similarly > > > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > > > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > > > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > > > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably > > he > > > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. > > You > > > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not > > only > > > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > > > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also > > see > > > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal > Interlinks > > > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. > S. > > P. > > > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > > > book.> > > > > > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > > > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > > > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept > of > > > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > > > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > > > explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " > that > > > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > > > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners > we > > > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who > so > > > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. > > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > > > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > > > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: > N.V.RAGHAVA > > > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of > > astro > > > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:- > > > > PREFACE **> > > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > > > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to > > an > > > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > > > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > > > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where > > my > > > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come > in > > > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara > Sastriar> > > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > > > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > > > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter > > the > > > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> > > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a > > signaller > > > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman > intrest > > in > > > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons > ensued > > on > > > verious system of astrology. > > > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > > > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > > > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose > son > > > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > > > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > > > verses and proverbs relating to astrology. > > > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > > > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of > astrology > > in > > > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was > asked > > to > > > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped > > into > > > a book from publication.> > > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > > > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd > sri.Budha > > > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed > > astrology.so > > > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the > > field > > > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to > crack > > > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of > the > > > cgarts openly and clearly. > > > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > > > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> > > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA > Rasi.Iwas > > > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther > my > > > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA > > Rasi > > > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were > liminaries > > > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and > Vrischika.As > > > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in > our > > > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > > > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay > > presidency > > > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i > > come > > > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking > law > > > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > > > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > > > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but > > his > > > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life > > and > > > had own difficulties in the family too. > > > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > > > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give > > him > > > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i > did > > > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > > > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > > > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in > the > > > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of > the > > > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its > publication. > > > possibly the world is such. > > > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i > > was > > > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i > > did > > > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > > > revised edition of the published books for which i did not > > cooprate > > > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > > > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > > > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > > > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > > > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > > > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded > > me > > > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by > me > > in > > > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of > mine > > > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression > > that > > > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to > service.> > > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was > > instumental > > > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my > > seclusion.i > > > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering > > me > > > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the > > readers > > > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large > > extent > > > of accuracy and precision.> > > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > > > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > > > CHARY> > > > AUTHOR> > > > **> > > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the > above > > > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son > Sri.Raja > > > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same > the > > > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in > its > > > original form.> > > > Point from Kanak:> > > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > > > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about > > MEENA's > > > given rules are how ifective? > > > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > > > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect > for > > > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao > please > > > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > > > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > > > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and > this > > is > > > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > > > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day > it > > > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kanak> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > I agree with you because:> > > > > > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the > Railways > > > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi > > > > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > > > printing, > > > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > > > educated > > > > than Basakaran.)> > > > > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS > OF > > > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > > > published > > > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as > in > > > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th > century > > > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy > are > > > the > > > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and > Meena > > > > second. > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first > > introduce > > > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on > > telephone > > > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i > am > > MD > > > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > > > uneducational person.? > > > > > > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > > > sucess > > > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass > > only > > > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him > > that > > > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i > say > > > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with > me, > > > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready > > to > > > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one > more > > > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done > research > > > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > > > Fourth > > > > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal > > Interlinks " . > > > > in > > > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya > Rajneesh. > > > The > > > > > same is being uploaded to file section. > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-> Phone > > > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > > Version 8. 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STAR : P.Ash> > > > PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; > > CHARANA : THIRD> > > > COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA> > > > YONI : WANARA > > > > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > > > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > > > LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI> > > > LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA > > > > RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus> > > > LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]> > > > NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA> > > > NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13 > > > > TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR> > > > SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI> > > > AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.> > PRAHARA : 1st> > > > SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th> > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> > TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE > > > > NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > > > |-------------------------|> > |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |> > | | | | |> > | | | | | > > |-------------------------|> > |ASC....... | |+JUP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |---------------| |---------------|> > | | |+NEP | > > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU |> > |VEN. SAT. | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------------------| > > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART> > > > |-------------------------|> > |+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS |> > | | | |+PLU | > > | | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |SUN. FOR. | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |---------------| |---------------| > > |+URA | |MERC +NEP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU |> > | | | | |> > | | | | | > > |-------------------------|> > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES > > > > Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 > 1944> > |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938 > > |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939> > |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939> > |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940> > |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941> > |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942 > > Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 > 1943> > Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 > 1943> > Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 > 1944> > > > Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 > 1961> > Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 > 1954 > > Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 > 1955> > Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 > 1956> > Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 > 1957> > Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 > 1958> > Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 > 1959> > Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 > 1960> > Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 > 1960> > Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 > 1961> > > > Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 > 1995> > Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 > 1981> > Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 > 1984> > Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 > 1986> > Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 > 1987> > Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 > 1989> > Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 > 1990> > Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 > 1992> > Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 > 1992> > Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 > 1995> > > > Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 > 2031 > > Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 > 2016> > Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 > 2017> > Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 > 2020> > Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 > 2021> > Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 > 2022> > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 > 2023> > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 > 2026> > Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 > 2028> > Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 > 2031> > > > Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |> > Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |> > Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |> > Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 | > > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |> > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |> > Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |> > Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |> > Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 | > > Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W E S T E R N A S P E C T S > > > > Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. > PLUT > > > > SUN. TRIN TRIN > > MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP > > MARS SQUR > > MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR > > JUP. 150 > > VEN. SQUR SQUR > > SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP > > RAHU OPP > > KETU > > URAN CONJ SQUR > > NEPT > > FOR. SQUR > > PLUT > > > > > > > > Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th> > > > SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL > > MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt > > MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr > > MERC > > JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP > > VEN. 135 OPP CONJ > > SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ > > RAHU > > KETU > > URAN SQUR SXTL > > NEPT > > FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN > > PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP > > > > > > > > ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg. > > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > -------------------------> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |For 23 52 42| | | | > > |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|> > |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|> > | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|> > | | | | |> > ------------------------- > > | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |> > | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |> > | | Time 17 15 0 | |> > |Asc. 27 6 28| | |> > | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|> > | | |Jup -R 29 44 30| > > | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |> > | | | |> > :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|> > | | | |> > | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |> > | | | | > > |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |> > | | |Nept-R 15 6 28|> > | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|> > | | | |> > | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |> > ------------------------- > > | | | | |> > |Sat 28 35 2| | | |> > |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |> > |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| |> > |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|> > |Merc 13 29 15| | | | > > |Mars 8 8 59| | | |> > |X 0 12 25| | | |> > -------------------------> > > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: > > SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days> > > > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS> > ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup> > 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat > > 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven> > 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup> > 5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.> > 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket > > 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah > > 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun > > 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar > > 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup > > 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat > > 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven > > :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES> > > > SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE> > A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House > > C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets > > Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord > > Check Lords of planets near cusps !> > > > HOUSE A B C D E F > > -------------------------> ---> > ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> > | | | | |KE: |> > 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo> > | | | | |SA:RA: | > > 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat> > | | |NEP: | |VE: |> > 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> > 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer > > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> > 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo> > | | | | |SU:RA: |> > 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun> > | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA| > > 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven> > | | |NEP: | |VE: |> > 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat> > | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|> > 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket > > |MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|> > 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer> > | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|> > 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> > | | | | |KE: | > > -------------------------> ---> > > > PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets> > > > SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7, > > MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,> > MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-> > MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,> > JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F- > > VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,> > SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,> > RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-> > KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10, > > URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> > NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-> > FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> > PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-> > > > RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also > > KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also > > Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned > > Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK > > These are : > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. 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Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear Punit Better use KH for Khullar's aynamsa. No confusion with KPPunit Pandey <punitp wrote: Mukesh ji and friends, I would propose to use term "KP (Khullar)" for Khullar ji's ayanamsa. "KP (New)" is always accepted term for the new calculation for KP ayanamsa, as mentioned by Tw ji. Using term "KP (New)" for Khullar ji's ayanamsa create confusion among members. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 8/26/06, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Mukesh,1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP Ayanamsa?2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA?a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN ( K.P. & ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91)b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003)Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group.c) In file section of this group underNEW KP AYANAMSA.doc NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned Khullar is not the New KPA? This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above references.4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be shown later by calculation of reliable SWs.5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in many many future lives by unantural death. Thanks and regards,tw , Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote: >> Dear Members,> > I was out of station for last few days, so I could not respond. Reactions of members on Cuspal Interlinks Theory and analysis of Acharaya Rajneesh's chart by Mr. Khullar are welcome. However, I would like to answer the questions raised by some learned members.> > > Latitude and Longitude of Place of Birth: Acharaya Rajneesh was born in Kuchwara village, Udaipura, Tehsil in District Raisen (Madhya Pradesh). The latitude and longitude have been verified from Kuchwara Mobile Tower using GPRS. These are :> > Longitude: 78.20.59 E> Latitude: 23.08.23 N.> > > K.P (New or Refined) Ayanamsa. : It is claimed that Mr. Krishnamurti follows the rate of precession of Equinoxes as given by Newcomb which is 50.2388475 seconds per year. I, Mr. Khullar and Dr. Srikant Ojha have spent number of hours to solve the riddle of this figure 50.2388475 because Newcomb's rate of precession as given in his book and accepted by Almanac is 50.2564 as on 1st of January 1900 with formula for further years as 50.2564+0.000222*(year-1900) . Ultimately we have come to the conclusion that the figure 50.2388475 is averaged out taking into considerations all the parameters that cause for precession of equinoxes, including Nutation as linear rate. The Ayanamsa, on the date of birth of Acharaya Rajneesh as shown in the figure given by Mr. Khullar is correct. It has been verified by casting the horoscope using the following softwares:> > i. Gorvani Jyotish (U.S.A) V.2.26> ii. Horosoft (Professional edition 4.0). Designed by Triple-S Software,NewDelhi. > iii. Astroworks designed by Softdata computers systems pvt ltd, ND.> iv. T.P Stellar Astrology Software developed by Dr. Srikant Ojha, Ph.D in Engg. Professor Govt. Enng College Jodhpur. Mob 09414127125 > > The chart cast by Mr. Khullar as per the KP (New) or KP (Refined) option in above softwares for Ayanamsa is correct and he has corrected and analysed chart accordingly. By using any other figure of Ayanamsa, the Sub-Sub will change and accordingly the Rectification of Birth Time will become incorrect and whole analysis will go in vein. Thus we cannot doubt the correctness of the analysis of the chart using any other value of Ayanamsa. > > 3. How to reconcile "Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces- says TW. It was a very interesting observation. I had to talk to Mr. Khullar. This is what he said: "In our sacred book Gita, lord Krishna says, "A yogi is he who feels attachment in detachment, and detachment in attachment." The word disinterested here is used to explain Acharaya's detachment in attachment attitude. Literature on Acharaya Rajneesh makes it evidently clear that he was in the world and yet not of the world."> > Who is First Inventor: The simple answer is no body. I may like to quote from Introduction of Book on Tables of Houses under the title `The case for Sidereal Zodiac'.> > "In ancient India they used a constellatory Zodiac. The star scientists of that time observed many changes within the thirty-degree zones mapped out by the zodiac and divided it into 27 nakshatra zones (constellation zones not to be confused with the principal fixed stars contained in them), each 13 degree 20 min in extent. They noted resemblances which have been found to manifest between traits of character and potential destinies of individuals born. When certain nakshatras (constellations) and their minutest subdivisions were rising at birth. In ancient India, the consideration of nakshatra and their subdivisions as zones of specific influence was, undisputedly,the most important". > > Mr. Krishnamurti has also thrown hints on cuspal significations in his original writings. No body has moral right to claim to be inventor of cuspal Interlinks Theory. Mr. Khullar has made it clear that he has developed his theory based on Nakshatra, Navamsa and Nadiamsa concept but has not anywhere said that he is the inventor of Cuspal Interlinks Theory. His approach, however, is based on fundamental concepts of Stellar Astrology and is different from the approach of Mr. Bhaskaran. For example on page 10 (Para c) in "Principles of Cuspal Links" Book Mr. Bhaskaran says that if Jupiter is in the star or sub of the concerned "fifth cusp sub lord", it can cause for the birth of a child. According to Mr. Khullar's approach, if Jupiter's star lord appears in 10th cuspal position/Bhava and its sub appears as the sub lord of the 5th cusp, it can cause adverse results in profession or can cause for the sale of property. It can not cause for the birth of the child. > > Dear members, I leave it to your judgement to value the writings of any Astrologer. Mr Khullar is not a professional Astrologer. But he is working with utmost devotion to provide the missing links in our ancient Astrology. His book "True Horoscope" has beautifully explained the relationship between Astrology and human being. His approach is original and he tries to provide the missing links, concepts and philosophy used in Astrology in a very rational and scientific way.> > Before I close I may like to inform Mr TinWin that there is a typing mistake in Example2 in Mr. Khullar's book page 176. The latitude and Longitude of the place are 72E54 and 23N34.> > Lot more can be said about invention of Cuspal Interlinks and controversies of Meena's but I would like to close here.> > With regards, > > Mukesh.> > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji, > > Please check longitude.> > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > Regards, > > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear lajimi ji,> > > > If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th > and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore > of 7th then why he was unmarroed?> > > > second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet .> > > > Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly.> > > > regards> > Kanak> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote:> > Dears TinWinji & Kanak,> > Alongwith pl. find the > correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P.> > With kind regards,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in > Khullar's > > Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in > > the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 > > charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will > see > > the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to > second > > as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using > of > > the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It > > is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same > > for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page > 10-> > 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or > > Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.> > > > Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death > > during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of > > cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for > > short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon > > is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Thanks for full details reply.> > > > > > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth > > data so i will check.> > > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my > > opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as > > 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > > > > > > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > > > > > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > > > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not > > better > > > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > > > > > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an > hindrance > > > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > > > books into English.> > > > > > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated > Khullar > > > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > > > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > > > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > > > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of > > Cuspal > > > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on > > the > > > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > > > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed > > two > > > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > > > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > > > > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name > of > > > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > > > > > 2. MEENA I & II> > > > > > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > > > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", > (1st > > > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi > Printing > > > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan > 1, > > > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > > > > > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after > N. > > V. > > > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based > on > > > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > > > > > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram > Sage > > > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > > > > > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > > > > > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and > 50 > > > years in stellar astrology.> > > > > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are > > almost > > > the same.> > > > > > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book > > Nadi > > > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late > > Sri > > > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > > > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > > > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > > > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated > by > > > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The > > Times > > > of Astrology)> > > > > > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, > mentioned > > in > > > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except > > Khullar > > > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > > > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > > > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what > ever > > it > > > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub > > sub, > > > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine > > planets > > > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > > > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the > divisions > > > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using > > these > > > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first > time > > > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. > & > > > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > > > > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA > > > > > > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena > unexpectedly > > > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his > > help > > > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > > > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to > > Raman > > > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > > > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, > worth > > > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > > > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with > the > > > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. ( B.V. > Raman: "My > > > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > > > > > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain > > his "paddhati", > > > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning > > the > > > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > > > > > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > > > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi > Jyotisha > > 3 > > > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in > natal > > > chart analysis and became basis for KP. > > > > > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > > > > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions > > whereas > > > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > > > Interlinks, page 200) > > > > > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE > > > > > > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given > importance > > > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and > > Shareera > > > planets. > > > > > > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > > > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance > and > > > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide > events.> > > > > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > > > > > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which > he > > > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had > hitherto > > > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The > authors > > > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was > > possible > > > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to > > investigate > > > and understand the science correctly by the method herein > revealed.> > > > > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, > the > > > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years > > ago, > > > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling > Planets. > > > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and > each > > > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of > Mahatma > > > Gandhi)> > > > > > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > > > > > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest > in > > > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, > > , > > > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > > > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own > SWs.> > > > > > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in > > his > > > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > > > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > > > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the > > Lahiri > > > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > > > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > > > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big > deal > > > for him.> > > > > > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis > by > > > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and > > sub > > > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. > Rao > > > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page > > 86) > > > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > > > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence > > Jupiter > > > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page > > 191) > > > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled > by > > > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in > its > > > initial period and this resulted in death. > > > > > > ( http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > > > > > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP > > name.> > > > > > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > > > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) > > Ayanamsa > > > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > > > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. > By > > > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same > Moon > > > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted > > Ge > > > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > > > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > > > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > > > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc > 26:23:13 > > in > > > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help > me > > > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of > > heart > > > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to > > reconcile "Acharaya > > > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls- Royces > > > below. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh > > > > > > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only > > increased > > > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, > or > > > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they > said > > > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of > > the > > > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). > > One > > > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > > > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > > > recruited homeless people from across the United States to > settle > > at > > > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the > ballot > > > box to seize control of Wasco County. > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT. > > > > > > > > thanks for information.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak Ji,> > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > > > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research > > on > > > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > > > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good > > astrologer. > > > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > > > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > > > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though > both > > > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, > > while > > > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > > > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. > Similarly > > > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > > > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > > > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > > > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably > > he > > > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. > > You > > > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not > > only > > > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > > > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also > > see > > > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal > Interlinks > > > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. > S. > > P. > > > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > > > book.> > > > > > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > > > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > > > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept > of > > > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > > > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > > > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" > that > > > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > > > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners > we > > > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who > so > > > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. > > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > > > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > > > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: > N.V.RAGHAVA > > > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of > > astro > > > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:- > > > > PREFACE **> > > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > > > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to > > an > > > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > > > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > > > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where > > my > > > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come > in > > > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara > Sastriar> > > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > > > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > > > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter > > the > > > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> > > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a > > signaller > > > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman > intrest > > in > > > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons > ensued > > on > > > verious system of astrology.> > > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > > > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > > > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose > son > > > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > > > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > > > verses and proverbs relating to astrology. > > > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > > > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of > astrology > > in > > > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was > asked > > to > > > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped > > into > > > a book from publication.> > > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > > > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd > sri.Budha > > > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed > > astrology.so > > > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the > > field > > > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to > crack > > > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of > the > > > cgarts openly and clearly. > > > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > > > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> > > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA > Rasi.Iwas > > > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther > my > > > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA > > Rasi > > > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were > liminaries > > > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and > Vrischika.As > > > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in > our > > > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > > > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay > > presidency > > > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i > > come > > > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking > law > > > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > > > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > > > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but > > his > > > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life > > and > > > had own difficulties in the family too. > > > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > > > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give > > him > > > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i > did > > > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > > > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > > > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in > the > > > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of > the > > > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its > publication. > > > possibly the world is such. > > > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i > > was > > > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i > > did > > > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > > > revised edition of the published books for which i did not > > cooprate > > > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > > > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > > > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > > > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > > > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > > > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded > > me > > > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by > me > > in > > > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of > mine > > > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression > > that > > > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to > service.> > > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was > > instumental > > > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my > > seclusion.i > > > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering > > me > > > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the > > readers > > > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large > > extent > > > of accuracy and precision.> > > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > > > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > > > CHARY> > > > AUTHOR> > > > **> > > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the > above > > > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son > Sri.Raja > > > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same > the > > > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in > its > > > original form.> > > > Point from Kanak:> > > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > > > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about > > MEENA's > > > given rules are how ifective? > > > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > > > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect > for > > > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao > please > > > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > > > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > > > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and > this > > is > > > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > > > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day > it > > > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kanak> > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > I agree with you because:> > > > > > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the > Railways > > > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > > > printing, > > > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > > > educated > > > > than Basakaran.)> > > > > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS > OF > > > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > > > published > > > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as > in > > > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th > century > > > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy > are > > > the > > > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and > Meena > > > > second. > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first > > introduce > > > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on > > telephone > > > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i > am > > MD > > > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > > > uneducational person.? > > > > > > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > > > sucess > > > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass > > only > > > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him > > that > > > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i > say > > > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with > me, > > > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready > > to > > > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one > more > > > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done > research > > > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > > > Fourth > > > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal > > Interlinks". > > > > in > > > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya > Rajneesh. > > > The > > > > > same is being uploaded to file section. > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying < > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-> Phone > > > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > > Version 8. 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STAR : P.Ash> > > > PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; > > CHARANA : THIRD> > > > COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA> > > > YONI : WANARA > > > > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > > > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > > > LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI> > > > LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA > > > > RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus> > > > LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]> > > > NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA> > > > NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13 > > > > TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR> > > > SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI> > > > AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.> > PRAHARA : 1st> > > > SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th> > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> > TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE > > > > NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > > > |-------------------------|> > |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |> > | | | | |> > | | | | | > > |-------------------------|> > |ASC....... | |+JUP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |---------------| |---------------|> > | | |+NEP | > > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU |> > |VEN. SAT. | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------------------| > > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART> > > > |-------------------------|> > |+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS |> > | | | |+PLU | > > | | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |SUN. FOR. | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |---------------| |---------------|> > |+URA | |MERC +NEP |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-------------------------|> > |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU |> > | | | | |> > | | | | | > > |-------------------------|> > > > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES > > > > Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 > 1944> > |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938> > |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939> > |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939> > |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940> > |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941> > |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942 > > Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 > 1943> > Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 > 1943> > Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 > 1944> > > > Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 > 1961> > Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 > 1954 > > Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 > 1955> > Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 > 1956> > Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 > 1957> > Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 > 1958> > Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 > 1959> > Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 > 1960> > Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 > 1960> > Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 > 1961> > > > Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 > 1995> > Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 > 1981> > Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 > 1984> > Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 > 1986> > Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 > 1987> > Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 > 1989> > Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 > 1990> > Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 > 1992> > Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 > 1992> > Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 > 1995> > > > Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 > 2031 > > Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 > 2016> > Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 > 2017> > Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 > 2020> > Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 > 2021> > Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 > 2022> > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 > 2023> > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 > 2026> > Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 > 2028> > Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 > 2031> > > > Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |> > Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |> > Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |> > Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 | > > Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |> > Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |> > Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |> > Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |> > Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 | > > Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W E S T E R N A S P E C T S > > > > Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. > PLUT > > > > SUN. TRIN TRIN > > MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP > > MARS SQUR > > MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR > > JUP. 150 > > VEN. SQUR SQUR > > SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP > > RAHU OPP > > KETU > > URAN CONJ SQUR > > NEPT > > FOR. SQUR > > PLUT > > > > > > > > Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th> > > > SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL > > MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt > > MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr > > MERC > > JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP > > VEN. 135 OPP CONJ > > SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ > > RAHU > > KETU > > URAN SQUR SXTL > > NEPT > > FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN > > PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP > > > > > > > > ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg. > > > > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > -------------------------> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |For 23 52 42| | | | > > |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|> > |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|> > | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|> > | | | | |> > ------------------------- > > | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |> > | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |> > | | Time 17 15 0 | |> > |Asc. 27 6 28| | |> > | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|> > | | |Jup -R 29 44 30| > > | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |> > | | | |> > :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|> > | | | |> > | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |> > | | | |> > |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |> > | | |Nept-R 15 6 28|> > | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|> > | | | |> > | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |> > ------------------------- > > | | | | |> > |Sat 28 35 2| | | |> > |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |> > |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| |> > |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|> > |Merc 13 29 15| | | | > > |Mars 8 8 59| | | |> > |X 0 12 25| | | |> > -------------------------> > > > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: > > SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days> > > > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS> > ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup> > 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat > > 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven> > 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup> > 5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.> > 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket > > 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah > > 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun > > 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar > > 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup > > 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat > > 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven > > :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES> > > > SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE> > A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House > > C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets > > Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord > > Check Lords of planets near cusps !> > > > HOUSE A B C D E F > > -------------------------> ---> > ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> > | | | | |KE: |> > 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo> > | | | | |SA:RA: | > > 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat> > | | |NEP: | |VE: |> > 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> > 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer > > | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> > 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo> > | | | | |SU:RA: |> > 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun> > | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|> > 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven> > | | |NEP: | |VE: |> > 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat> > | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|> > 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket > > |MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|> > 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer> > | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|> > 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> > | | | | |KE: | > > -------------------------> ---> > > > PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets> > > > SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7, > > MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,> > MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-> > MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,> > JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F- > > VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,> > SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,> > RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-> > KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10, > > URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> > NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-> > FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> > PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-> > > > RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also > > KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also > > Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned > > Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK > > These are : > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. 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Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear Tinwin, 1. Ayanamsa is a subject of Spherical Astronomy. Persons well versed with the laws of spherical astronomy are capable to understand the theory and concepts on the basis of which the rate of precession of equinoxes is calculated. It is, however, unfortunate that there is no consensus on this subject. This causes lot of problems to astrologers who follow the Sidereal Zodiac. Mr. Khullar, myself and Dr. Srikant Ojha have studied various books and articles written by highly knowledgeable astronomers and have come to the conclusion that Newcomb's Ayanamsa calculated linearly using the rate of precession 50.2388475 secs per year and applying Nutation gives best results. I may say that it would have been better if the developers of the software had called it as practical Newcomb Ayanamsa and dropped the suffix K.P. Mr. Krishnamurthy himself has written in his book part 1 ( page 139 ) published in 1966 by Sagar Publications that he follows the figure given by Newcomb. Probably they have their own commercial interests. Any astrologer is at liberty to use it and test for the results. No confusion. The concepts of predictive technique offered by Mr. Khullar using this Ayanamsa is being tested and used by astrologers all over the world. It is not limited to any particular group. I would again quote from Preface to the book "Table of Houses" where it is said, "there is the vexed problem of Ayanamsa, atleast regarding its accuracy to the minute is concerned. Further, the Ayanamsa has been assumed as a fixed quantity for the whole year by the late professor Krishnamurthy Ji only because the correctness of the `seconds' factor in the Ayanamsa still eluded him". Mr. Khullar is attempting to provide techniques to achieve accuracy in seconds rather than in minutes. That is why he said that we need to switchover to Sub-Sub so that the time gap between births is restricted to seconds. I am sharing my views. Certainly causing no confusion. May I also quote from Introduction of Mr. Khullar's book "Basic and Traditional concepts" where he says, "Astrology, no doubt, will remain an enigma if the attitude of the traditional astrologers will continue to be rigid and their minds closed to the realities of life." Friends, let us approach the subject of astrology with open mind so that fresh ideas and concepts enlighten us. 2. and 3. Yes I have read all your references. only Maheshwary has used the Newcomb. 4. The Cusp Position in various SW depends on the number of iterations applied to arrive at Cuspal Point. 5. Belief of a person is, indeed, very personal. It is based on ones own knowledge, experience and conditioning. Many followers of K.P do not pay importance to Retrogression while analyzing a Natal Chart. Probably K.P said so. The same persons pay paramount importance to Retrogression while anaylising a Horary chart. Probably because K.P said so. A person with a scientific bent of mind loves to explore and enquire. Mr. Khullar has said much about the mode of death of Acharya Rajneesh in a very few words. Infact, he has said even that which cannot be said in words. The concepts of Hell and Heaven or suffering in future lives due to unnatural death are nothing but dogmas. We can believe them but cannot prove them. Further Mr. Khullar has added one more paragraph in the analysis to prove the accuracy of Acharya Rajneesh Chart this is as follows: "Genetical Connection: My friend Mr. P.K. Jain could talk to Smt. Rasa Fauzdar the immidiate younger sister of Acharya Rajneesh. She has informed that she was born at Midnight on 11/12 July 1934. It was checked that moon was transiting at that time was in Jupiter star. The Sub-Sub lord of 3rd cusp in the chart of Acharya Rajneesh chart is Jupiter, which matches with the moon star lord of the Acharya's Sister. Jupiter is in Cancer sign and it is in its own sub-sub. The Female sign cancer rises on the 3rd cusp and the sub-sub arc of Jupiter on the 3rd cusp is in the first half. This confirms the Sex of younger coborn." Thanks and regards, Mukesh Gupta , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Mukesh,> > 1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP > Ayanamsa?> > 2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA?> > a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN (K.P. & > ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91)> > b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003)> > Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group.> > c) In file section of this group under> > NEW KP AYANAMSA.doc > NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR> > 3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned > Khullar is not the New KPA? > > This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above > references.> > 4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's > calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be > shown later by calculation of reliable SWs.> > 5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and > straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is > written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death > which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in > many many future lives by unantural death.> > > Thanks and regards,> > tw > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear Mukesh, You do not seem to be aware of the history of K.P.,the days when K.P. was denounced roundly by virtually all "representatives" of the different schools of Vedic astrology...in India and abroad...especially by the late B.V.Raman...and his followers... It was precisely during those days (' 70s) that KSK took bold to adopt Newcomb's value of the precession of the equinoxes,to derive an KP-Ayanamsa value,which when tested gave,truly,the most astoundingly accurate results,in predictive astrology,and also helped conclusively prove KSK's division of the star into subs ans sub-subs etc., as very correct... At that time there was no Khullar or anybody else who even condescended to as much as even agree to KSK's then "refvolutionary" views... If you can please get old issues of The Astrological Magazine and "K.P. and Athrishta" brought out by KSK himself as editor...and go through the issues during the WAR years...and see for yourself... B.V.Raman and his followers had "unleashed" a relentless and "no holds barred WAR..." on Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,even KSK himself,and the ayanamsa followed by him... The use of Newcomb's value of the Precession of the Equinoxes by Khullar and others...amply but, belatedly though, acknowledges that this KP-Ayanamsa Value " first advocated by Krishnamurthiji,in the face of the most vicious opposition by many 'groups' of Vedic Astrologers.... " the correct one...affording the most accurate results in predictive astrology, THEREFORE IT IS REFERRED TO AS KRISHNAMURTHI- AYANAMSA...by his followers to give him credit,in their own way... WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT ? Newcomb's value referred to the Precession...and Krishnamurthi adapted it to derive the K.P. Ayanamsa,hence we,the students,followers of K.P., call it KP Ayanamsa... BTW... Are you from yet another "new group" wanting to discredit KSK or atleast devalue KSK's contribution to Vedic Astrology,and perhaps usurp the credit due to KSK,in an attempt to establish a "Khullar's Ayanamsa" ? ! I admit, this is a very brusque and stinging reply...but you have "brought it upon yourself", I guess... No offence meant please... Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! mg13jan <mg13jan wrote: Dear Tinwin, 1. Ayanamsa is a subject of Spherical Astronomy. Persons well versed with the laws of spherical astronomy are capable to understand the theory and concepts on the basis of which the rate of precession of equinoxes is calculated. It is, however, unfortunate that there is no consensus on this subject. This causes lot of problems to astrologers who follow the Sidereal Zodiac. Mr. Khullar, myself and Dr. Srikant Ojha have studied various books and articles written by highly knowledgeable astronomers and have come to the conclusion that Newcomb's Ayanamsa calculated linearly using the rate of precession 50.2388475 secs per year and applying Nutation gives best results. I may say that it would have been better if the developers of the software had called it as practical Newcomb Ayanamsa and dropped the suffix K.P. Mr. Krishnamurthy himself has written in his book part 1 ( page 139 ) published in 1966 by Sagar Publications that he follows the figure given by Newcomb. Probably they have their own commercial interests. Any astrologer is at liberty to use it and test for the results. No confusion. The concepts of predictive technique offered by Mr. Khullar using this Ayanamsa is being tested and used by astrologers all over the world. It is not limited to any particular group. I would again quote from Preface to the book "Table of Houses" where it is said, "there is the vexed problem of Ayanamsa, atleast regarding its accuracy to the minute is concerned. Further, the Ayanamsa has been assumed as a fixed quantity for the whole year by the late professor Krishnamurthy Ji only because the correctness of the `seconds' factor in the Ayanamsa still eluded him". Mr. Khullar is attempting to provide techniques to achieve accuracy in seconds rather than in minutes. That is why he said that we need to switchover to Sub-Sub so that the time gap between births is restricted to seconds. I am sharing my views. Certainly causing no confusion. May I also quote from Introduction of Mr. Khullar's book "Basic and Traditional concepts" where he says, "Astrology, no doubt, will remain an enigma if the attitude of the traditional astrologers will continue to be rigid and their minds closed to the realities of life." Friends, let us approach the subject of astrology with open mind so that fresh ideas and concepts enlighten us. 2. and 3. Yes I have read all your references. only Maheshwary has used the Newcomb. 4. The Cusp Position in various SW depends on the number of iterations applied to arrive at Cuspal Point. 5. Belief of a person is, indeed, very personal. It is based on ones own knowledge, experience and conditioning. Many followers of K.P do not pay importance to Retrogression while analyzing a Natal Chart. Probably K.P said so. The same persons pay paramount importance to Retrogression while anaylising a Horary chart. Probably because K.P said so. A person with a scientific bent of mind loves to explore and enquire. Mr. Khullar has said much about the mode of death of Acharya Rajneesh in a very few words. Infact, he has said even that which cannot be said in words. The concepts of Hell and Heaven or suffering in future lives due to unnatural death are nothing but dogmas. We can believe them but cannot prove them. Further Mr. Khullar has added one more paragraph in the analysis to prove the accuracy of Acharya Rajneesh Chart this is as follows: "Genetical Connection: My friend Mr. P.K. Jain could talk to Smt. Rasa Fauzdar the immidiate younger sister of Acharya Rajneesh. She has informed that she was born at Midnight on 11/12 July 1934. It was checked that moon was transiting at that time was in Jupiter star. The Sub-Sub lord of 3rd cusp in the chart of Acharya Rajneesh chart is Jupiter, which matches with the moon star lord of the Acharya's Sister. Jupiter is in Cancer sign and it is in its own sub-sub. The Female sign cancer rises on the 3rd cusp and the sub-sub arc of Jupiter on the 3rd cusp is in the first half. This confirms the Sex of younger coborn." Thanks and regards, Mukesh Gupta , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Mukesh,> > 1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP > Ayanamsa?> > 2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA?> > a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN (K.P. & > ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91)> > b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003)> > Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group.> > c) In file section of this group under> > NEW KP AYANAMSA.doc > NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR> > 3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned > Khullar is not the New KPA? > > This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above > references.> > 4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's > calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be > shown later by calculation of reliable SWs.> > 5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and > straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is > written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death > which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in > many many future lives by unantural death.> > > Thanks and regards,> > tw > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear Mukesh Gupta, 1. Let me talk straight to the point. It's a shame to use the name of New KP Ayanamsa for the Ayanamsa value in Rajennesh's chart which is not closed to neither the Old KP Ayanamsa (in KP Reader I, KP Ephemeris, Manu's Astrological Tables for All, SWs such as Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, astraura, etc) nor the New KP Ayanamsa (in KP & Astrology Year Book 2003, KP SWs such as Shri Raichur's, KPAstro 2.5). 2. That is why please stop misusing the name of New KP Ayanamsa if it is not properly used. If it is really used, the use of KP name is welcome by us since astrology not a monopoly as Guruji KSK mentioned. 3. We, KP followers used Old KPA before and New KPA now and the difference is not much in values of Old and New KPA but the New one goes up to the level of seconds by using a set equation which can be run back and forth easily and accurately. (One can see Msg#1481 and 1530.) 4. The choice of Ayanamsa is up to the preference of a Astrologer finding best for him and there is no need to discuss the correctness of Ayanamsa which depends on the rules applied by different schools of thought . A research done by Kanak not long ago showed that the New KP Ayanamsa is working better than Lahiri Ayanamsa in applying KP rules to all kind of life events during the Vimshottari Dasa- Bhukti- Anthara- Sookshma. (One can see Msg#8339 of this group.) 5. Great astrologers left Ayanamsa under their names for their followers without caring any proof. For example, Guruji KSK gave a table of his KP Ayanamsa in KP Reader I using New Comb's precession rate of 50.2388475 secs per year and 291 A.D. as the year of coincidence of both tropical and sideral zodiacs, BV Raman without wishing to enter into explaining the complicated process of astronomy ---- but merely confining himself to giving a suitable and simple method for determining the Ayanamsa in his Hindu Predictive Astrology. http://www.astrologie.cz/zacek/ayanamsa/ayanamsa.htm 6. Khullar mentioned the above New Comb's precession rate 50.2388475 and the year 291 as used by KP followers in his Basic and Traditional concepts, page 11 which are supported by your statement below. Mr. Khullar, myself and Dr. Srikant Ojha have studied various books and articles written by highly knowledgeable astronomers and have come to the conclusion that Newcomb's Ayanamsa calculated linearly using the rate of precession 50.2388475 secs per year and applying Nutation gives best results. 7. In the above same page 11 Khullar says mostly the Vedic followers now use the Lahiri Ayanamsa and KP followers KP Ayanamsa. But he does not say which Ayanamsa he uses like other astrologers below used to say their positon. 8. After explaining the most widely used ayanamsas such as Lahiri, KP, Raman etc, Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda says he uses Lahiri in his Light on Life, page 42; David Frawley used Raman till 1989, and then Lahiri in his Astrloogy of the Seers, page 32-33, Richard Houck uses the Ayanamsa generally within about a minute of the popular Krishnamurti Ayanamsa or 5 min and 10 sec shorter than the values developed by the Lahiri Calender Reform Committee giving a table of his Ayanamsa in his The Astrology of Death, page 40-41, James T. Braha uses Lahiri in his Ancient Hindu Astrlology for the Modern Western Astrologer, page 2, G.S. Agarwar uses Lahiri in his Practiacl Vedic Astrlogy, Introduction, etc. 9. Which Ayanamsa Khullar uses? Please respond strait, short to the point please, Lahiri or his own? If his own what is the formula? 10. The reason is that no birth details or Ayanamsa used are not given for example charts in his Basic & Traditional Concepts and birth details are given for 12 example charts in his Kalamsa & Cuspal Interlinks Theory but not the name of POB (only long & lat) and the value or name of Ayanamsa used are not given as mostly done by research-minded astrologers. The name and value of Ayanamsa used is mentioned only in Rajeneesh's chart. 11. Punit ji is correct in his observation that the Ayanamsa used by Khullar is very close to the Lahiri ayanamsa but not exactly the same. The Ayanamsa 22-53-43 used by Khullar in Rajeneesh's chart is 41 sec less than Lahiri 22-54-24 and quite different from New KP Ayanamsa 22-49-01. The different is much less in 12 example charts in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, i.e. 14 sec in page 58 example, 15 sec in p 60, 12 sec in p 122, 17 sec in p 166, 30 sec in p 172, 34 sec in p 176, 17 sec in p 195A,18 sec in p 195B, 28 sec in p 252, 19 sec in p 265, 12 sec in p 271 and 16 sec in p 280. 12. Regarding the accuracy of calculation in Rajeneesh's chart, the planet positions are the same as given by Astrodienst and other Swiss ephemeris using SWs such as KPAstro 2.5, Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, etc. (The difference is not more than 1 sec due to rounding.) But Asc position is around 4min less than the one given by the above Swiss ephemeris using SWs and accordingly three are differences in other cusp positions. It is strange because usually both planet and cusp positions are generally the same in Swiss ephemeris using SWs since the calculation support package is provided together with commercial Swiss ephemeris. Kanak is saying (Msg#7422) that the difference 1deg-29min-30sec in Rahu position in KP & Astrology Year Book 1996, page 81 is too much with compared to Rahu's speed per day id 00 D.03 M.11 S. (Note: 22-00 by the author and 20-30-30 by Kanak using Shri Raichur's SW). In this context, it is noticed the difference of 1d-47min-59sec (including effect of taking True Rahu) in example chat in page 195B and 1-30-58 in example in page 265 and 1-20-36 in in example in page 166 of Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks. 13. If the real New KP Ayanamsa were used in Rajeneesh's chart, the sub sub lords of some cusps and planets and starlord and sublord of 12th cusp will change giving entirely different significations. Thanks and regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Mukesh, > You do not seem to be aware of the history of K.P.,the days when K.P. was denounced roundly by virtually all " representatives " of the different schools of Vedic astrology...in India and abroad...especially by the late B.V.Raman...and his followers... > It was precisely during those days (' 70s) that KSK took bold to adopt Newcomb's value of the precession of the equinoxes,to derive an KP-Ayanamsa value,which when tested gave,truly,the most astoundingly accurate results,in predictive astrology,and also helped conclusively prove KSK's division of the star into subs ans sub-subs etc., as very correct... > At that time there was no Khullar or anybody else who even condescended to as much as even agree to KSK's then " refvolutionary " views... > If you can please get old issues of The Astrological Magazine and " K.P. and Athrishta " brought out by KSK himself as editor...and go through the issues during the WAR years...and see for yourself... > B.V.Raman and his followers had " unleashed " a relentless and " no holds barred WAR... " on Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,even KSK himself,and the ayanamsa followed by him... > The use of Newcomb's value of the Precession of the Equinoxes by Khullar and others...amply but, belatedly though, acknowledges that this KP-Ayanamsa Value " first advocated by Krishnamurthiji,in the face of the most vicious opposition by many 'groups' of Vedic Astrologers.... " the correct one...affording the most accurate results in predictive astrology, THEREFORE IT IS REFERRED TO AS KRISHNAMURTHI- AYANAMSA...by his followers to give him credit,in their own way... > WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT ? > Newcomb's value referred to the Precession...and Krishnamurthi adapted it to derive the K.P. Ayanamsa,hence we,the students,followers of K.P., call it KP Ayanamsa... > BTW... > Are you from yet another " new group " wanting to discredit KSK or atleast devalue KSK's contribution to Vedic Astrology,and perhaps usurp the credit due to KSK,in an attempt to establish a " Khullar's Ayanamsa " ? ! > I admit, this is a very brusque and stinging reply...but you have " brought it upon yourself " , I guess... > No offence meant please... > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > mg13jan <mg13jan wrote: > Dear Tinwin, > 1. Ayanamsa is a subject of Spherical Astronomy. Persons well versed with the laws of spherical astronomy are capable to understand the theory and concepts on the basis of which the rate of precession of equinoxes is calculated. It is, however, unfortunate that there is no consensus on this subject. This causes lot of problems to astrologers who follow the Sidereal Zodiac. Mr. Khullar, myself and Dr. Srikant Ojha have studied various books and articles written by highly knowledgeable astronomers and have come to the conclusion that Newcomb's Ayanamsa calculated linearly using the rate of precession 50.2388475 secs per year and applying Nutation gives best results. I may say that it would have been better if the developers of the software had called it as practical Newcomb Ayanamsa and dropped the suffix K.P. Mr. Krishnamurthy himself has written in his book part 1 ( page 139 ) published in 1966 by Sagar Publications that he follows the figure given by Newcomb. Probably > they have their own commercial interests. > Any astrologer is at liberty to use it and test for the results. No confusion. The concepts of predictive technique offered by Mr. Khullar using this Ayanamsa is being tested and used by astrologers all over the world. It is not limited to any particular group. > > I would again quote from Preface to the book " Table of Houses " where it is said, " there is the vexed problem of Ayanamsa, atleast regarding its accuracy to the minute is concerned. Further, the Ayanamsa has been assumed as a fixed quantity for the whole year by the late professor Krishnamurthy Ji only because the correctness of the `seconds' factor in the Ayanamsa still eluded him " . > > Mr. Khullar is attempting to provide techniques to achieve accuracy in seconds rather than in minutes. That is why he said that we need to switchover to Sub-Sub so that the time gap between births is restricted to seconds. > > I am sharing my views. Certainly causing no confusion. May I also quote from Introduction of Mr. Khullar's book " Basic and Traditional concepts " where he says, " Astrology, no doubt, will remain an enigma if the attitude of the traditional astrologers will continue to be rigid and their minds closed to the realities of life. " Friends, let us approach the subject of astrology with open mind so that fresh ideas and concepts enlighten us. > 2. and 3. Yes I have read all your references. only Maheshwary has used the Newcomb. > 4. The Cusp Position in various SW depends on the number of iterations applied to arrive at Cuspal Point. > 5. Belief of a person is, indeed, very personal. It is based on ones own knowledge, experience and conditioning. Many followers of K.P do not pay importance to Retrogression while analyzing a Natal Chart. Probably K.P said so. The same persons pay paramount importance to Retrogression while anaylising a Horary chart. Probably because K.P said so. A person with a scientific bent of mind loves to explore and enquire. Mr. Khullar has said much about the mode of death of Acharya Rajneesh in a very few words. Infact, he has said even that which cannot be said in words. The concepts of Hell and Heaven or suffering in future lives due to unnatural death are nothing but dogmas. We can believe them but cannot prove them. > Further Mr. Khullar has added one more paragraph in the analysis to prove the accuracy of Acharya Rajneesh Chart this is as follows: > " Genetical Connection: My friend Mr. P.K. Jain could talk to Smt. Rasa Fauzdar the immidiate younger sister of Acharya Rajneesh. She has informed that she was born at Midnight on 11/12 July 1934. It was checked that moon was transiting at that time was in Jupiter star. The Sub-Sub lord of 3rd cusp in the chart of Acharya Rajneesh chart is Jupiter, which matches with the moon star lord of the Acharya's Sister. Jupiter is in Cancer sign and it is in its own sub- sub. The Female sign cancer rises on the 3rd cusp and the sub-sub arc of Jupiter on the 3rd cusp is in the first half. This confirms the Sex of younger coborn. " > > Thanks and regards, > Mukesh Gupta > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > 1. Why are you making confusion for other members regarding New KP > > Ayanamsa? > > > > 2. Have you read the references below regarding the New KPA? > > > > a)IN DEFENCE OF KP AYANAMSA by PROF. K. BALACHANDRAN (K.P. & > > ASTROLOGY 2003, P. 88-91) > > > > b) EDITOR SKEAKS, K. SUBRAMANIAM (K.P. & ASTRLOGY 2003) > > > > Note: A gist is in Msg#1530 of this group. > > > > c) In file section of this group under > > > > NEW KP AYANAMSA.doc > > NEW KPA JAN 1, APR 15 & NUMBER DAY IN YEAR > > > > 3. How many times myself and Kanak have to say 22:53:43 mentioned > > Khullar is not the New KPA? > > > > This is an already lset arthemetical equation in the above > > references. > > > > 4. It is checked that Swiss emphemeris is used in Khullar's > > calculation but how come different cusp positions are got will be > > shown later by calculation of reliable SWs. > > > > 5. Once gain let me request again to kindly explain in simple and > > straight English how come Rajeneesh's death of heart failure is > > written in hogh floor English like an unnatural or suicide death > > which is supposed to be the worst crime for one self to be paid in > > many many future lives by unantural death. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Dear Tinwin, 1. The name KP(new) or KP refined is used by softwere developers whose SW Mr. Khullar is using. For this Ayanamsa only I meant to say "I may say that it would have been better if the developers of the software had called it as practical Newcomb Ayanamsa and dropped the suffix K.P." You have rightly said that Astrology is not a monopoly. 2. You have rightly said that "The choice of Ayanamsa is up to the preference of a Astrologer finding best for him and there is no need to discuss the correctness of Ayanamsa which depends on the rules applied by different schools of thought." It is the choice of Mr. Khullar to use average rate of precession linearly based on his research on the charts for his theory of Cuspal Interlinks as calculated by 50.2388475*(year-291) with calculation up to the day of birth. I may like to point out that Ayanamsa values given in the Table of Houses are very close to this formula. I hope that you must have gone through the introduction of the book " Table of houses" and must have found lot of content to satisfy you. 3. I may like to draw your attention to Mr. MC khare's article in Astrology and Athrishta magazine probably 1980 issue. Mr. Khullar has followed the Ayanamsa values accordingly. You might have seen that Mr. MGG Nayar's calculation of Ayanamsa and the calculation of Mr. K. Balchandran (based on Mr. Nayar's calculation) do not match. Reading the article of Mr. Nayyar critically, throws ample light on the issue of Ayanamsa. 4. Wherever possible Mr. Khullar has given birth details and Ayanamsa value in the first and second book. For certain Charts the natives were not ready to give permission to publish birth details for obvious reasons. This is standard practice followed by all astrologers for writing books including great Sh. KSK. In the Book "Your true horoscope" has given all the details after taking permission from the natives. 5. The position of ASC in any chart defers due to the variation in the Ayanamsa. If the value of Ayanamsa given by Mr. Khullar is used you will get the same Asc. I may like to draw your attention to the chart of Example on page 83 in KP Reader 6 or probably same example in KP reader 3. The ASC calculated now with any SW does not give the same ASC and the explanation does not match. As great KSK might have used original KP Ayanamsa with manual calculation the difference is bound to come. By this we can not discredit the contribution of great Sh KSK. For any further clarification on ayanamsa and Asc calculation you may contact Mr. Khullar on +91-120-2501201 and +91-120-2501202. email sp_khullar This is without malice to anybody please. Thanks and Regards Mukesh Gupta , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Mukesh Gupta,> > 1. Let me talk straight to the point. It's a shame to use the name > of New KP Ayanamsa for the Ayanamsa value in Rajennesh's chart which is not closed to neither the Old KP Ayanamsa (in KP Reader I, KP Ephemeris, Manu's Astrological Tables for All, SWs such as Jagannatha Hora, Astro-Kundli, astraura, etc) nor the New KP > Ayanamsa (in KP & Astrology Year Book 2003, KP SWs such as Shri > Raichur's, KPAstro 2.5).> > 2. That is why please stop misusing the name of New KP Ayanamsa if > it is not properly used. If it is really used, the use of KP name > is welcome by us since astrology not a monopoly as Guruji KSK > mentioned. > > 3. We, KP followers used Old KPA before and New KPA now and the > difference is not much in values of Old and New KPA but the New one > goes up to the level of seconds by using a set equation which can be > run back and forth easily and accurately. (One can see Msg#1481 and > 1530.) > > 4. The choice of Ayanamsa is up to the preference of a Astrologer > finding best for him and there is no need to discuss the correctness > of Ayanamsa which depends on the rules applied by different schools > of thought . A research done by Kanak not long ago showed that the > New KP Ayanamsa is working better than Lahiri Ayanamsa in applying > KP rules to all kind of life events during the Vimshottari Dasa- > Bhukti- Anthara- Sookshma. (One can see Msg#8339 of this group.)> > 5. Great astrologers left Ayanamsa under their names for their > followers without caring any proof. For example, Guruji KSK gave a > table of his KP Ayanamsa in KP Reader I using New Comb's precession > rate of 50.2388475 secs per year and 291 A.D. as the year of > coincidence of both tropical and sideral zodiacs, BV Raman without > wishing to enter into explaining the complicated process of > astronomy ---- but merely confining himself to giving a suitable and > simple method for determining the Ayanamsa in his Hindu Predictive > Astrology.> http://www.astrologie.cz/zacek/ayanamsa/ayanamsa.htm> > 6. Khullar mentioned the above New Comb's precession rate 50.2388475 > and the year 291 as used by KP followers in his Basic and > Traditional concepts, page 11 which are supported by your statement > below. > > Mr. Khullar, myself and Dr. Srikant Ojha have studied various books > and articles written by highly knowledgeable astronomers and have > come to the conclusion that Newcomb's Ayanamsa calculated linearly > using the rate of precession 50.2388475 secs per year and applying > Nutation gives best results. > > 7. In the above same page 11 Khullar says mostly the Vedic followers > now use the Lahiri Ayanamsa and KP followers KP Ayanamsa. But he > does not say which Ayanamsa he uses like other astrologers below > used to say their positon. > > 8. After explaining the most widely used ayanamsas such as Lahiri, > KP, Raman etc, Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda says he uses Lahiri in > his Light on Life, page 42; David Frawley used Raman till 1989, and > then Lahiri in his Astrloogy of the Seers, page 32-33, Richard > Houck uses the Ayanamsa generally within about a minute of the > popular Krishnamurti Ayanamsa or 5 min and 10 sec shorter than the > values developed by the Lahiri Calender Reform Committee giving a > table of his Ayanamsa in his The Astrology of Death, page 40-41, > James T. Braha uses Lahiri in his Ancient Hindu Astrlology for the > Modern Western Astrologer, page 2, G.S. Agarwar uses Lahiri in his > Practiacl Vedic Astrlogy, Introduction, etc.> > 9. Which Ayanamsa Khullar uses? Please respond strait, short to the > point please, Lahiri or his own? If his own what is the formula?> 10. The reason is that no birth details or Ayanamsa used are not > given for example charts in his Basic & Traditional Concepts and > birth details are given for 12 example charts in his Kalamsa & > Cuspal Interlinks Theory but not the name of POB (only long & lat) > and the value or name of Ayanamsa used are not given as mostly done > by research-minded astrologers. The name and value of Ayanamsa used > is mentioned only in Rajeneesh's chart.> > 11. Punit ji is correct in his observation that the Ayanamsa used by > Khullar is very close to the Lahiri ayanamsa but not exactly the > same. The Ayanamsa 22-53-43 used by Khullar in Rajeneesh's chart is > 41 sec less than Lahiri 22-54-24 and quite different from New KP > Ayanamsa 22-49-01. The different is much less in 12 example charts > in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, i.e. 14 sec in page 58 example, 15 > sec in p 60, 12 sec in p 122, 17 sec in p 166, 30 sec in p 172, 34 > sec in p 176, 17 sec in p 195A,18 sec in p 195B, 28 sec in p 252, 19 > sec in p 265, 12 sec in p 271 and 16 sec in p 280.> > 12. Regarding the accuracy of calculation in Rajeneesh's chart, the > planet positions are the same as given by Astrodienst and other > Swiss ephemeris using SWs such as KPAstro 2.5, Jagannatha Hora, > Astro-Kundli, etc. (The difference is not more than 1 sec due to > rounding.) But Asc position is around 4min less than the one given > by the above Swiss ephemeris using SWs and accordingly three are > differences in other cusp positions. It is strange because usually > both planet and cusp positions are generally the same in Swiss > ephemeris using SWs since the calculation support package is > provided together with commercial Swiss ephemeris. Kanak is saying > (Msg#7422) that the difference 1deg-29min-30sec in Rahu position in > KP & Astrology Year Book 1996, page 81 is too much with compared to > Rahu's speed per day id 00 D.03 M.11 S. (Note: 22-00 by the author > and 20-30-30 by Kanak using Shri Raichur's SW). In this context, it > is noticed the difference of 1d-47min-59sec (including effect of > taking True Rahu) in example chat in page 195B and 1-30-58 in > example in page 265 and 1-20-36 in in example in page 166 of > Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks. > > 13. If the real New KP Ayanamsa were used in Rajeneesh's chart, the > sub sub lords of some cusps and planets and starlord and sublord of > 12th cusp will change giving entirely different significations.> > Thanks and regards,> tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Dear Shri Rao, Where did I say that there is any thing wrong in calling the Ayanamsa propounded by revered Shri KSK as KP Ayanamsa? Kindly see the context for which Ayanamsa I was referring to in saying that "I may say that it would have been better if the developers of the software had called it as practical Newcomb Ayanamsa and dropped the suffix K.P." Here I meant for the words KP (New) or KP refined term being used by the SW developers for the Ayanamsa followed by Mr. Khullar. I was just trying to explain the rationale behind the Ayanamsa being followed by Mr. Khullar. Mr. Tinwin has rightly said that "The choice of Ayanamsa is up to the preference of a Astrologer finding best for him and there is no need to discuss the correctness of Ayanamsa which depends on the rules applied by different schools of thought." It is the choice of Mr. Khullar to use average rate of precession linearly based on his research on the charts for his theory of Cuspal Interlinks as calculated by 50.2388475*(year-291) with calculation up to the day of birth. I may like to point out that Ayanamsa values given in the Table of Houses are very close to this formula. I hope that you must have gone through the introduction of the book "Table of houses" and must have found a lot of content to satisfy you. I may like to draw your attention to Mr. MC khare's article in Astrology and Athrishta magazine probably 1980 issue. Mr. Khullar has followed the Ayanamsa values accordingly. You might have seen that Mr. MGG Nayar's calculation of Ayanamsa and the calculation of Mr. K. Balchandran (based on Mr. Nayar's calculation) do not match. Reading the article of Mr. Nayyar critically, throws ample light on the issue of Ayanamsa. Thanks to revered KSK for adopting a scientific approach and admitting the contribution of Newcomb. Some of his followers are not that open and generous to the contribution of new researchers or investigators. For your kind information I have never called the Ayanamsa followed by Mr. Khullar as "Khullar Ayanamsa" This was some other learned member who had said so. BTW… what is wrong in that??? I am not trying to discredit the revered KSK, but being a man open to new researches and investigation I only presented the chart of Acharya Rajneesh prepared by Mr. Khullar for discussion. It was on provocation by some members I was trying to discuss the concept of Ayanamsa. Unfortunately you have misunderstood the contents of my mail and reacted emotionally. you are also behaving in the same way, (by not being open to new ideas and investigations) like BV Raman and his followers did with revered KSK. BTW…… Stinging is the nature of Scorpion. No offence meant please. Good Luck. Thanks and regards , Mukesh Gupta , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear Mukesh,> You do not seem to be aware of the history of K.P.,the days when K.P. was denounced roundly by virtually all "representatives" of the different schools of Vedic astrology...in India and abroad...especially by the late B.V.Raman...and his followers...> It was precisely during those days (' 70s) that KSK took bold to adopt Newcomb's value of the precession of the equinoxes,to derive an KP-Ayanamsa value,which when tested gave,truly,the most astoundingly accurate results,in predictive astrology,and also helped conclusively prove KSK's division of the star into subs ans sub-subs etc., as very correct...> At that time there was no Khullar or anybody else who even condescended to as much as even agree to KSK's then "refvolutionary" views...> If you can please get old issues of The Astrological Magazine and "K.P. and Athrishta" brought out by KSK himself as editor...and go through the issues during the WAR years...and see for yourself...> B.V.Raman and his followers had "unleashed" a relentless and "no holds barred WAR..." on Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,even KSK himself,and the ayanamsa followed by him...> The use of Newcomb's value of the Precession of the Equinoxes by Khullar and others...amply but, belatedly though, acknowledges that this KP-Ayanamsa Value " first advocated by Krishnamurthiji,in the face of the most vicious opposition by many 'groups' of Vedic Astrologers.... " the correct one...affording the most accurate results in predictive astrology, THEREFORE IT IS REFERRED TO AS KRISHNAMURTHI- AYANAMSA...by his followers to give him credit,in their own way...> WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT ?> Newcomb's value referred to the Precession...and Krishnamurthi adapted it to derive the K.P. Ayanamsa,hence we,the students,followers of K.P., call it KP Ayanamsa...> BTW...> Are you from yet another "new group" wanting to discredit KSK or atleast devalue KSK's contribution to Vedic Astrology,and perhaps usurp the credit due to KSK,in an attempt to establish a "Khullar's Ayanamsa" ? !> I admit, this is a very brusque and stinging reply...but you have "brought it upon yourself", I guess...> No offence meant please...> Yours sincerely,> L.Y.Rao.> GOOD LUCK !> > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Dear Mukesh Gupta, 1. Thank you for your explanation. 2. Now I know exactly what ayanamsa is used by Khullar after checking ayanamsas of 51 charts in his " Birth Time Rectification " because the differece in two ayanamsas used by Khular and given by KPAstro 2.5 is not more than 1 to 2 second 39 charts. 3. But I've to check other 12 charts whether errors in given ayanamsas are printing errors or entry errors of birth details and to compile facts and figures while still waiting for some background information regarding the ayanamsa used by Khullar. 4. A review will be posted after a few days for information and commnent from members because it's also related to the study of KP. 5. In order to incorporate in my presentation, could you make me a favor to provide any " specific " reference or SW--- a) mentionig or using the ayanamsa of Simon Newcomb, in Khullar's words New Comb's Ayanamsa; b) taking 291 A.D. by Simon Newcomb as the year of zero ayanamsa as mentioned by Khullar; because I can't find any of them in any astrlogical litrature accessable to me or any website by Google or search. Only a few words straight to the point, please. 6. Let me use Khullar's words in the introduction of " Birth Time Rectification " that I'm making a sincere and ddedicated attempt to dig out the true picture of this ayanamsa related to KP. Thanks and regards, tw , " mg13jan " <mg13jan wrote: > > > Dear Tinwin, > > > > 1. The name KP(new) or KP refined is used by softwere developers > whose SW Mr. Khullar is using. For this Ayanamsa only I meant to say > " I may say that it would have been better if the developers of the > software had called it as practical Newcomb Ayanamsa and dropped the > suffix K.P. " You have rightly said that Astrology is not a monopoly. > > > > 2. You have rightly said that " The choice of Ayanamsa is up > to the preference of a Astrologer finding best for him and there is no > need to discuss the correctness of Ayanamsa which depends on the rules > applied by different schools of thought. " It is the choice of Mr. > Khullar to use average rate of precession linearly based on his > research on the charts for his theory of Cuspal Interlinks as > calculated by 50.2388475*(year-291) with calculation up to the day of > birth. I may like to point out that Ayanamsa values given in the Table > of Houses are very close to this formula. I hope that you must have gone > through the introduction of the book " Table of houses " and must have > found lot of content to satisfy you. > > > > 3. I may like to draw your attention to Mr. MC khare's > article in Astrology and Athrishta magazine probably 1980 issue. Mr. > Khullar has followed the Ayanamsa values accordingly. You might have > seen that Mr. MGG Nayar's calculation of Ayanamsa and the > calculation of Mr. K. Balchandran (based on Mr. Nayar's calculation) > do not match. Reading the article of Mr. Nayyar critically, throws ample > light on the issue of Ayanamsa. > > > > 4. Wherever possible Mr. Khullar has given birth details and > Ayanamsa value in the first and second book. For certain Charts the > natives were not ready to give permission to publish birth details for > obvious reasons. This is standard practice followed by all astrologers > for writing books including great Sh. KSK. In the Book " Your true > horoscope " has given all the details after taking permission from > the natives. > > > > 5. The position of ASC in any chart defers due to the variation > in the Ayanamsa. If the value of Ayanamsa given by Mr. Khullar is used > you will get the same Asc. I may like to draw your attention to the > chart of Example on page 83 in KP Reader 6 or probably same example in > KP reader 3. The ASC calculated now with any SW does not give the same > ASC and the explanation does not match. As great KSK might have used > original KP Ayanamsa with manual calculation the difference is bound to > come. By this we can not discredit the contribution of great Sh KSK. > > > > For any further clarification on ayanamsa and Asc calculation you may > contact Mr. Khullar on +91-120-2501201 and +91-120-2501202. email > sp_khullar <sp_khullar > > > > This is without malice to anybody please. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Mukesh Gupta > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mukesh Gupta, > > > > 1. Let me talk straight to the point. It's a shame to use the name > > of New KP Ayanamsa for the Ayanamsa value in Rajennesh's chart which > is not closed to neither the Old KP Ayanamsa (in KP Reader I, KP > Ephemeris, Manu's Astrological Tables for All, SWs such as Jagannatha > Hora, Astro-Kundli, astraura, etc) nor the New KP > > Ayanamsa (in KP & Astrology Year Book 2003, KP SWs such as Shri > > Raichur's, KPAstro 2.5). > > > > 2. That is why please stop misusing the name of New KP Ayanamsa if > > it is not properly used. If it is really used, the use of KP name > > is welcome by us since astrology not a monopoly as Guruji KSK > > mentioned. > > > > 3. We, KP followers used Old KPA before and New KPA now and the > > difference is not much in values of Old and New KPA but the New one > > goes up to the level of seconds by using a set equation which can be > > run back and forth easily and accurately. (One can see Msg#1481 and > > 1530.) > > > > 4. The choice of Ayanamsa is up to the preference of a Astrologer > > finding best for him and there is no need to discuss the correctness > > of Ayanamsa which depends on the rules applied by different schools > > of thought . A research done by Kanak not long ago showed that the > > New KP Ayanamsa is working better than Lahiri Ayanamsa in applying > > KP rules to all kind of life events during the Vimshottari Dasa- > > Bhukti- Anthara- Sookshma. (One can see Msg#8339 of this group.) > > > > 5. Great astrologers left Ayanamsa under their names for their > > followers without caring any proof. For example, Guruji KSK gave a > > table of his KP Ayanamsa in KP Reader I using New Comb's precession > > rate of 50.2388475 secs per year and 291 A.D. as the year of > > coincidence of both tropical and sideral zodiacs, BV Raman without > > wishing to enter into explaining the complicated process of > > astronomy ---- but merely confining himself to giving a suitable and > > simple method for determining the Ayanamsa in his Hindu Predictive > > Astrology. > > http://www.astrologie.cz/zacek/ayanamsa/ayanamsa.htm > > > > 6. Khullar mentioned the above New Comb's precession rate 50.2388475 > > and the year 291 as used by KP followers in his Basic and > > Traditional concepts, page 11 which are supported by your statement > > below. > > > > Mr. Khullar, myself and Dr. Srikant Ojha have studied various books > > and articles written by highly knowledgeable astronomers and have > > come to the conclusion that Newcomb's Ayanamsa calculated linearly > > using the rate of precession 50.2388475 secs per year and applying > > Nutation gives best results. > > > > 7. In the above same page 11 Khullar says mostly the Vedic followers > > now use the Lahiri Ayanamsa and KP followers KP Ayanamsa. But he > > does not say which Ayanamsa he uses like other astrologers below > > used to say their positon. > > > > 8. After explaining the most widely used ayanamsas such as Lahiri, > > KP, Raman etc, Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda says he uses Lahiri in > > his Light on Life, page 42; David Frawley used Raman till 1989, and > > then Lahiri in his Astrloogy of the Seers, page 32-33, Richard > > Houck uses the Ayanamsa generally within about a minute of the > > popular Krishnamurti Ayanamsa or 5 min and 10 sec shorter than the > > values developed by the Lahiri Calender Reform Committee giving a > > table of his Ayanamsa in his The Astrology of Death, page 40-41, > > James T. Braha uses Lahiri in his Ancient Hindu Astrlology for the > > Modern Western Astrologer, page 2, G.S. Agarwar uses Lahiri in his > > Practiacl Vedic Astrlogy, Introduction, etc. > > > > 9. Which Ayanamsa Khullar uses? Please respond strait, short to the > > point please, Lahiri or his own? If his own what is the formula? > > 10. The reason is that no birth details or Ayanamsa used are not > > given for example charts in his Basic & Traditional Concepts and > > birth details are given for 12 example charts in his Kalamsa & > > Cuspal Interlinks Theory but not the name of POB (only long & lat) > > and the value or name of Ayanamsa used are not given as mostly done > > by research-minded astrologers. The name and value of Ayanamsa used > > is mentioned only in Rajeneesh's chart. > > > > 11. Punit ji is correct in his observation that the Ayanamsa used by > > Khullar is very close to the Lahiri ayanamsa but not exactly the > > same. The Ayanamsa 22-53-43 used by Khullar in Rajeneesh's chart is > > 41 sec less than Lahiri 22-54-24 and quite different from New KP > > Ayanamsa 22-49-01. The different is much less in 12 example charts > > in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, i.e. 14 sec in page 58 example, 15 > > sec in p 60, 12 sec in p 122, 17 sec in p 166, 30 sec in p 172, 34 > > sec in p 176, 17 sec in p 195A,18 sec in p 195B, 28 sec in p 252, 19 > > sec in p 265, 12 sec in p 271 and 16 sec in p 280. > > > > 12. Regarding the accuracy of calculation in Rajeneesh's chart, the > > planet positions are the same as given by Astrodienst and other > > Swiss ephemeris using SWs such as KPAstro 2.5, Jagannatha Hora, > > Astro-Kundli, etc. (The difference is not more than 1 sec due to > > rounding.) But Asc position is around 4min less than the one given > > by the above Swiss ephemeris using SWs and accordingly three are > > differences in other cusp positions. It is strange because usually > > both planet and cusp positions are generally the same in Swiss > > ephemeris using SWs since the calculation support package is > > provided together with commercial Swiss ephemeris. Kanak is saying > > (Msg#7422) that the difference 1deg-29min-30sec in Rahu position in > > KP & Astrology Year Book 1996, page 81 is too much with compared to > > Rahu's speed per day id 00 D.03 M.11 S. (Note: 22-00 by the author > > and 20-30-30 by Kanak using Shri Raichur's SW). In this context, it > > is noticed the difference of 1d-47min-59sec (including effect of > > taking True Rahu) in example chat in page 195B and 1-30-58 in > > example in page 265 and 1-20-36 in in example in page 166 of > > Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks. > > > > 13. If the real New KP Ayanamsa were used in Rajeneesh's chart, the > > sub sub lords of some cusps and planets and starlord and sublord of > > 12th cusp will change giving entirely different significations. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Dear members, As this thread is heading more towards allegations and controversies rather than true astrological learning, I would like to request member to stop discussing this and move on. Any further posting on this topic will not be entertained. I would request all members to focus on KP system learning and discussion which is the objective of this forum. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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