A good book on horary and cuspalinterlink by S. P. Khullar

August 15, 2006

Dear all Readers,

Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research

on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth

Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal Interlinks " . in

this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The

same is being uploaded to file section.

Regards,

Mukesh Gupta

August 16, 2006

Dear mukesh ji, As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar, I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.? I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call. i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i

dont understand what is wrong in my question. any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!! best wishes Kanak Bosmiamg13jan <mg13jan wrote: Dear all Readers,Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth Book is now ready for release

on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The same is being uploaded to file section.Regards,Mukesh Gupta>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

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August 16, 2006

Dear Kanak, You are very correct. Mr.Khullar published a book on the cuspal interlink theory but as far as I remember correctly,IT WAS MR BASKARAN who first introduced the concept of the cuspal interlink theory...his article was published in K.P. & Astrology Magazine...which I have preserved... BTW kindly inform your welfare...just saw on TV that Ahmedabad is now threatened by floods...are you affected ? Do you have enough stores of provisions ? Drinking water etc. Kindly inform... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear mukesh ji, As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not

by Shri Khullar, I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.? I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call. i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question. any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is

ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!! best wishes Kanak Bosmiamg13jan <mg13jan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear all Readers,Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The same is being uploaded to file section.Regards,Mukesh Gupta >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying

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August 17, 2006

Dear Kanak,

I agree with you because:

a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways

drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing,

later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated

than Basakaran.)

b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF

CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published

in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in

Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century

named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the

same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena

second.

Regards,

tw

P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

<astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com for

the supply of Khullar's books.

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear mukesh ji,

>

> As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce

by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

>

> I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone

and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD

in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

uneducational person.?

>

> I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess

in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only

up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that

only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

>

> He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say

YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

>

> i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me,

even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

>

> any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to

publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more

rude tolk with him!!!!!

>

> best wishes

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> mg13jan <mg13jan wrote:

> Dear all Readers,

>

> Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research

> on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth

> Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal Interlinks " .

in

> this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The

> same is being uploaded to file section.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mukesh Gupta

>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

>

> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

>

August 18, 2006

Dear Tin Win ji, For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical: I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-PREFACE **At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in

english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication.While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they

were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o

learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several

years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the

charts.Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY AUTHOR **The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form. Point from Kanak:1)Please not that this is the dying

declaration of auther.2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective? 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him. I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga. I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers. Regards Kanak tw853 <tw853

wrote: Dear Kanak,I agree with you because:a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated than Basakaran.)b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS

was published in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena second. Regards,twP.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinic4u (AT) astroclinic4u (DOT) com>, http://www.astroclinica.com for the supply of Khullar's books. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear mukesh ji,> > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > I ask him about this question and he got very

engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.?> > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!!> >

best wishes> Kanak Bosmia> > mg13jan <mg13jan wrote:> Dear all Readers,> > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > same is being uploaded to file section.> > Regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.>>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

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August 19, 2006

Dear Kanak Ji, Regards, I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that “He has done research on Cuspal Inter links.” I also don’t say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher,

while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life. I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept

of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the book. Mr. Bhaskaran’s theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book “Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks” that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. With regards, Mukesh

GuptaKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical: I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as

under:-PREFACE **At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and

discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication.While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of

astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to

start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge

the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into

contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA

CHARY AUTHOR **The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form. Point from Kanak:1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective? 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him. I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga. I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers. Regards Kanak tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,I agree with you because:a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways drawing

about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated than Basakaran.)b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena second. Regards,twP.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinic4u (AT) astroclinic4u (DOT) com>, http://www.astroclinica.com for the supply of Khullar's books. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear mukesh ji,> > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.?> > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got

sucess in astrology.> > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!!> > best wishes> Kanak Bosmia> > mg13jan <mg13jan wrote:> Dear all Readers,> > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > same is being uploaded to file section.> >

Regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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August 19, 2006

Dear Mukesh ji, YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT. thanks for information. regards Kanak BosmiaMukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote: Dear Kanak Ji, Regards, I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that “He has done research on Cuspal Inter links.” I also don’t say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life. I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the book. Mr. Bhaskaran’s theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the

concept of cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book “Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks” that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. With regards, Mukesh GuptaKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical: I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-PREFACE **At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village

near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of

meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication.While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.here it will be relevent to place that

sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the

profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and

gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.I hope and sencerely

trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY AUTHOR **The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed

over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form. Point from Kanak:1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective? 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him. I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga. I

hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers. Regards Kanak tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,I agree with you because:a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated than Basakaran.)b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published in 2004 and different views from KP are

generally the same as in Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena second. Regards,twP.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinic4u (AT) astroclinic4u (DOT) com>, http://www.astroclinica.com for the supply of Khullar's books. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear mukesh ji,> > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran

is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.?> > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!!> > best wishes> Kanak Bosmia> > mg13jan

<mg13jan wrote:> Dear all Readers,> > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > same is being uploaded to file section.> > Regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can

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August 20, 2006

Mukesh ji, I am very sorry and disappointed on your comments to compare Shri Shri 108 Shri Shankarachary ji Maharaj with Shroi Shri 108 Shri Kabir ji Maharaj. Saying that Shri Shri Kabir ji Maharaj was not a teacher, is an understatement and insult to a very sacred group and followers of Shri Shri Kabir ji Maharaj.. His all life passed on teaching. Even people today are doing PhDs on the teachings of Shri Shri Kabir ji maharaj. Shri Shri Kabir ji Maharaj was not only a grat saint and a teacher, but an incarnation of God. So please for the sake of goodness, never indulge in comparing two great personalities. Both came to this world for great mission and accomplish that. Secondly, Shri Kanak ji is a very learned person with a great experience anf well read person, and together with Shri Raichur ji and Shri Rao saheb doing great job to teach KP to several learners round the globe. Try to

understand and read carefully what they have to say without jumping into conclusion. May God bless you and cool down your temerament which is best fitted for an astrologer. Regards, Dr. Yatendra Sharma Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Mukesh ji, YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT. thanks for

information. regards Kanak BosmiaMukesh Gupta <mg13jan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak Ji, Regards, I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that “He has done research on Cuspal Inter links.” I also don’t say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and science. You can not compare Kabir and

Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life. I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr.

Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the book. Mr. Bhaskaran’s theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book “Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks” that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. All

said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. With regards, Mukesh GuptaKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read

carfuly bellow mwntion artical: I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-PREFACE **At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar

astrology.As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after

discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication.While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre

in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in

his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the

astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the

charts.Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY AUTHOR **The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form. Point from Kanak:1)Please not that this is the dying

declaration of auther.2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective? 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him. I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga. I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers. Regards Kanak tw853 <tw853 >

wrote: Dear Kanak,I agree with you because:a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated than Basakaran.)b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena second.

Regards,twP.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinic4u (AT) astroclinic4u (DOT) com>, http://www.astroclinica.com for the supply of Khullar's books. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear mukesh ji,> > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.?> > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer

who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!!> > best wishes> Kanak Bosmia> > mg13jan <mg13jan wrote:> Dear all Readers,> > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > Book is now ready for

release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > same is being uploaded to file section.> > Regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

August 20, 2006

Dear Kanak,

1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better

educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance

for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial

books into English.

1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar

that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not,

clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and

suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal

Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the

cover of the book under author which is a common practice of

coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two

articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as

mentioned by Lajmi ji.

1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of

less educated Meena after 50 years.

2. MEENA I & II

2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the

author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , (1st

Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing

Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan 1,

1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).

2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V.

Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on

Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.

2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram Sage

Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR

3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50

years in stellar astrology.

3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost

the same.

3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi

system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri

N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar

astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost

followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the

Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by

Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times

of Astrology)

3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in

his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar

takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd

marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the

cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it

may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub,

sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets

in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018,

point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions

of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these

divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time

to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. &

Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107).

4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA

4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly

called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help

for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In

order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman

the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's

chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth

study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in

applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the

Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: " My

Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)

4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his " paddhati " ,

Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the

so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)

4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult

Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3

Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal

chart analysis and became basis for KP.

http://vedicweb.com/c4.html

4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas

K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

Interlinks, page 200)

5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE

5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance

only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera

planets.

5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa

(signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and

Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.

6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA

6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he

had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto

been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors

of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible

to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate

and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.

6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the

forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago,

is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets.

(The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and each

vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma

Gandhi)

7. CRITICISM OF KP

7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in

Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, ,

SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in

Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.

7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his

study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real

Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he

didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri

and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R.

Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star

lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal

for him.

7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by

applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub

lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao

since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page 86)

and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter

gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191)

Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by

Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its

initial period and this resulted in death.

(http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)

7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.

7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart

with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa

22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just

closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By

taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon

position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge

00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True

with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given

example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176,

KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in

the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me

to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart

failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile " Acharaya

had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces

below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased

tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or

the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said

that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the

year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One

of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently

recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at

Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot

box to seize control of Wasco County.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Mukesh ji,

>

> YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.

>

> thanks for information.

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote:

> Dear Kanak Ji,

> Regards,

>

> I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal

Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research on

Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less

educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer.

I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great

importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both

are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while

Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and

founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly

Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally

educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.

>

> I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same

department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he

might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You

must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only

expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the

concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see

the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks

Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P.

Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the

book.

>

> Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on

the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of

cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on

Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has

explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " that

why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

>

> All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of

unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we

should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so

ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.

>

> With regards,

>

> Mukesh Gupta

>

> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

>

> For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena

no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:

>

> I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA

CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro

and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.

> In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-

> PREFACE **

> At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by

profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an

extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near

madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student

studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my

father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in

close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar

(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in

pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.

> As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the

same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city

(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller

at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in

the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on

verious system of astrology.

> Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was

working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son

was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar

astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil

verses and proverbs relating to astrology.

> Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his

intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in

english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to

render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into

a book from publication.

> While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of

Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha

Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so

i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field

of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack

and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the

cgarts openly and clearly.

> here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in

VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas

born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my

RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi

is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries

and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As

both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our

name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was

neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency

as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come

away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law

degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and

settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a

comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his

hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and

had own difficulties in the family too.

> Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to

stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him

part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did

readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent

editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even

without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the

peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the

time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication.

possibly the world is such.

> Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was

called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did

not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent

revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate

and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss

about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.

> In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and

mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions

arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not

proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various

angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me

to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in

the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine

visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that

i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.

> My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental

in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i

also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me

suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.

> I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers

in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent

of accuracy and precision.

> I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor

venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.

> Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA

CHARY

> AUTHOR

> **

> The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above

prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja

on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the

next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its

original form.

> Point from Kanak:

> 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of

staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's

given rules are how ifective?

> 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri

Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for

Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please

pass by Pranam to him.

>

> I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP

rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is

not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.

>

> I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it

is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.

>

> Regards

> Kanak

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> I agree with you because:

>

> a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways

> drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

> Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi

printing,

> later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less

educated

> than Basakaran.)

>

> b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

> published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF

> CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was

published

> in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in

> Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century

> named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are

the

> same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena

> second.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> the supply of Khullar's books.

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear mukesh ji,

> >

> > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce

> by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

> >

> > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone

> and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD

> in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

> uneducational person.?

> >

> > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

> telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got

sucess

> in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only

> up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that

> only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

> >

> > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say

> YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

> >

> > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me,

> even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

> >

> > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to

> publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more

> rude tolk with him!!!!!

> >

> > best wishes

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > Dear all Readers,

> >

> > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research

> > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His

Fourth

> > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal Interlinks " .

> in

> > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh.

The

> > same is being uploaded to file section.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Mukesh Gupta

> >

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August 20, 2006

Dear Friends,

A high Threshold of Tolerance and humility is tha hallmark of

enlightened individuals.So be it.

Baskaran's book was orginally in Tamil translated into English by

S Gnansambadham of Madurai,Refer foreword by Sri Raichur on 1-9-2000.

He has acknowledged various sources.

Contents are more important,presentation styles vary. If

correctness of English is considered, some KP's books are a

mutilation of English language.If we acknowledge that knowledge from

Tamil Nadu has been exposed to the World at large,and we have

gained,magnanimity demands we accept the books as a whole,not in

parts.

I for one have used Baskaran's principle's as a counter check on

other systems. I have two books of Khullar ,Glossy books, well

written.meant for english perfect audience.As a gross amateur, quite

happy.

Above is not intended to hurt anyone's feelings.We should move on,

not get trapped in ego battles.

Regards,

Satish

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak,

>

> 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

>

> 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

> century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not

better

> educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

>

> 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance

> for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial

> books into English.

>

> 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar

> that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not,

> clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

> formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and

> suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of

Cuspal

> Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the

> cover of the book under author which is a common practice of

> coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed

two

> articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as

> mentioned by Lajmi ji.

>

> 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of

> less educated Meena after 50 years.

>

> 2. MEENA I & II

>

> 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the

> author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , (1st

> Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing

> Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan 1,

> 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).

>

> 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N.

V.

> Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on

> Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.

>

> 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram Sage

> Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

>

> 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR

>

> 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50

> years in stellar astrology.

>

> 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost

> the same.

>

> 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi

> system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late

Sri

> N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar

> astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost

> followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the

> Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by

> Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The

Times

> of Astrology)

>

> 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned

in

> his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except

Khullar

> takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd

> marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the

> cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever

it

> may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub,

> sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets

> in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018,

> point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions

> of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these

> divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time

> to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. &

> Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107).

>

> 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA

>

> 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly

> called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help

> for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In

> order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to

Raman

> the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's

> chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth

> study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in

> applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the

> Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: " My

> Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)

>

> 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain

his " paddhati " ,

> Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the

> so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)

>

> 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult

> Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha

3

> Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal

> chart analysis and became basis for KP.

>

> http://vedicweb.com/c4.html

>

> 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions

whereas

> K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

> Interlinks, page 200)

>

> 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE

>

> 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance

> only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and

Shareera

> planets.

>

> 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa

> (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and

> Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.

>

> 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA

>

> 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he

> had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto

> been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors

> of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible

> to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate

> and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.

>

> 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the

> forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years

ago,

> is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets.

> (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and each

> vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma

> Gandhi)

>

> 7. CRITICISM OF KP

>

> 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in

> Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, ,

> SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in

> Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.

>

> 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his

> study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real

> Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he

> didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri

> and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R.

> Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star

> lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal

> for him.

>

> 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by

> applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and

sub

> lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao

> since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page 86)

> and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

> powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter

> gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page

191)

> Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by

> Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its

> initial period and this resulted in death.

>

> (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)

>

> 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.

>

> 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart

> with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa

> 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just

> closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By

> taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon

> position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge

> 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True

> with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given

> example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176,

> KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13

in

> the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me

> to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of

heart

> failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to

reconcile " Acharaya

> had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces

> below.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

>

> Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased

> tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or

> the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said

> that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of

the

> year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One

> of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

> Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently

> recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle

at

> Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot

> box to seize control of Wasco County.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mukesh ji,

> >

> > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.

> >

> > thanks for information.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak Ji,

> > Regards,

> >

> > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal

> Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research on

> Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less

> educated per may not practice astrology or become a good

astrologer.

> I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great

> importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

> science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both

> are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher,

while

> Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and

> founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly

> Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally

> educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.

> >

> > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same

> department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he

> might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question.

You

> must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not

only

> expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the

> concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also

see

> the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks

> Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S.

P.

> Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the

> book.

> >

> > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on

> the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

> through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of

> cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on

> Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has

> explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " that

> why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

> >

> > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of

> unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we

> should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so

> ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Mukesh Gupta

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena

> no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:

> >

> > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA

> CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of

astro

> and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.

> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-

> > PREFACE **

> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by

> profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an

> extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near

> madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student

> studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my

> father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in

> close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar

> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

> chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in

> pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.

> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter

the

> same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city

> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a

signaller

> at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest

in

> the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued

on

> verious system of astrology.

> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was

> working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

> fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son

> was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar

> astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil

> verses and proverbs relating to astrology.

> > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his

> intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology

in

> english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked

to

> render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into

> a book from publication.

> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of

> Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha

> Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed

astrology.so

> i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the

field

> of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack

> and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the

> cgarts openly and clearly.

> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in

> VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas

> born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my

> RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA

Rasi

> is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries

> and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As

> both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our

> name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was

> neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency

> as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come

> away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law

> degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and

> settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a

> comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his

> hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life

and

> had own difficulties in the family too.

> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to

> stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give

him

> part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did

> readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent

> editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even

> without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the

> peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the

> time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication.

> possibly the world is such.

> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was

> called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did

> not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent

> revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate

> and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss

> about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.

> > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and

> mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions

> arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not

> proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various

> angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me

> to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me

in

> the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine

> visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that

> i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.

> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was

instumental

> in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my

seclusion.i

> also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me

> suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.

> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the

readers

> in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large

extent

> of accuracy and precision.

> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor

> venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.

> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA

> CHARY

> > AUTHOR

> > **

> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above

> prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja

> on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the

> next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its

> original form.

> > Point from Kanak:

> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of

> staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's

> given rules are how ifective?

> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri

> Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for

> Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please

> pass by Pranam to him.

> >

> > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP

> rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this

is

> not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.

> >

> > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day

it

> is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kanak

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > I agree with you because:

> >

> > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways

> > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

> > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi

> printing,

> > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less

> educated

> > than Basakaran.)

> >

> > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

> > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF

> > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was

> published

> > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in

> > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century

> > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are

> the

> > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena

> > second.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> > the supply of Khullar's books.

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear mukesh ji,

> > >

> > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce

> > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

> > >

> > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on

telephone

> > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am

MD

> > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

> > uneducational person.?

> > >

> > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

> > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got

> sucess

> > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass

only

> > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that

> > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

> > >

> > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say

> > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

> > >

> > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me,

> > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

> > >

> > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to

> > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more

> > rude tolk with him!!!!!

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > Dear all Readers,

> > >

> > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research

> > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His

> Fourth

> > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal

Interlinks " .

> > in

> > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh.

> The

> > > same is being uploaded to file section.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta

> > >

> > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

> > >

> > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > >

> >

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>

August 21, 2006

Dear Lajmi ji, Yes Ahmedabad is near to denger from floods, but after yesterday evening water level are reduce bellow denger level but some of lower lavel socity are ifected but not mutch. My residenac is in uper level of city and we are totaly safe, school are also runing as per regular timing in my aria. But small town near by rivers are very ifected and situation is not good,and all this due to heavy rain in MP and Rajasthan, in gujarat not mutch rain. regards Kanak Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, You are very correct. Mr.Khullar published a book on the cuspal interlink theory but as far as I remember correctly,IT WAS MR BASKARAN who first introduced the concept of the cuspal interlink theory...his article was published in K.P. & Astrology Magazine...which I have preserved... BTW kindly inform your welfare...just saw on TV that Ahmedabad is now threatened by floods...are you affected ? Do you have enough stores of provisions ? Drinking water etc. Kindly inform... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear mukesh ji, As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar, I ask

him about this question and he got very engry on telephone and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an uneducational person.? I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call. i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question. any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to publish means you are near to him.so now again i

expect one more rude tolk with him!!!!! best wishes Kanak Bosmiamg13jan <mg13jan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear all Readers,Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". in this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The same is being uploaded to file section.Regards,Mukesh Gupta >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Stay in the know.

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August 21, 2006

Om Krishna Guru

Namaste Tw853 Ji,

Wow, that is a lot of factual information on the discussion topic

and thank you for that wonderful compilataion of sources too.

I have to read all of your writing in this group from the archives

soon, as you write in detailed with references. I like that approach

very much.

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak,

>

> 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

>

> 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

> century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not

better

> educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

> .........

August 21, 2006

dear membersIf you read the initial pages (vii) to (xvii) of the 1st edition of "PRINCIPLES OF CUPSAL INTERLINKS ", PUBLISHED IN 2000, YOU WILL get anwers to who has invented the method, and who have helped Mr Bhaskaran to bring out the Book in English and what is the contribution of the KP members who helped him. "Good lucktw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak, 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th century in

stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks. 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial books into English. 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the cover of the book under author which is a common practice of coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as mentioned by Lajmi ji. 1.4. Better educated N.

V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of less educated Meena after 50 years. 2. MEENA I & II 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication). 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II. 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I. 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 years in stellar astrology.

3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost the same. 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times of Astrology) 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it may be the deviding

a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's

opinion, worth study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9) 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239) 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal chart analysis and became basis for KP. http://vedicweb.com/c4.html 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

Interlinks, page 200) 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera planets. 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events. 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed. 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage

Satyacharya, the forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma Gandhi) 7. CRITICISM OF KP 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs. 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal for him. 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its initial period and this resulted in death. (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm) 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name. 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me to

check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot

box to seize control of Wasco County. Thanks and regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Mukesh ji, > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT. > > thanks for information. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote: > Dear Kanak Ji, > Regards, > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life. > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that

Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the book. > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction. > > With regards, > > Mukesh Gupta > > > Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical: > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad. > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:- > PREFACE ** > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name

sri.Bhaskara Sastriar (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology. > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology. > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and

proverbs relating to astrology. > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication. > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly. > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader. > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but

his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too. > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such. > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for

which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago. > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service. > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my

brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts. > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision. > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts. > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY > AUTHOR > ** > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form. > Point from Kanak: > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao. > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective? > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him. > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga. > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers. > > Regards > Kanak > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak,

> > I agree with you because: > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated > than Basakaran.) > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > second. > >

Regards, > > tw > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com for > the supply of Khullar's books. > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear mukesh ji, > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar, > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > uneducational person.? > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in >

telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology. > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call. > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question. > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > rude tolk with him!!!!! > > > > best wishes > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote: > > Dear all Readers, > > > > Shri

SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > in > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > > same is being uploaded to file section. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mukesh Gupta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying < > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying < >

> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying < > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. >

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Tw ji,

It is commendable the way you complied it at one place. Thanks for excellent post.

Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 8/21/06, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Kanak,1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial books into English.1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the cover of the book under author which is a common practice of coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as mentioned by Lajmi ji. 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of less educated Meena after 50 years.2. MEENA I & II

2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , (1st Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan 1, 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram Sage Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 years in stellar astrology.3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost the same.

3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times of Astrology)

3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets

in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (

B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his " paddhati " , Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal chart analysis and became basis for KP.http://vedicweb.com/c4.html 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal Interlinks, page 200) 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera planets.5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.

6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.

6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and each vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma Gandhi)7. CRITICISM OF KP7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal for him.7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page 86) and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its initial period and this resulted in death. (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm

)7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon

position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart

failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile " Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RajneeshComments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot box to seize control of Wasco County.

Thanks and regards,tw

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>

> Dear Mukesh ji,> > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > thanks for information.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia>

> Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote:> Dear Kanak Ji,> Regards,> > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research on Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the book.

> > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of

cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > With regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> >

> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

> > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> PREFACE **

> At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i

joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.> Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa

rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> Sri R.Gopalakrishana

Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication.> While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.> here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas

born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law

degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.> Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.

> Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the

chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.

> My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.

> I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY> AUTHOR> **> The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form.

> Point from Kanak:> 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective?> 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him.> > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > Regards

> Kanak> >

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with you because:> > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated > than Basakaran.)> > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > second. > > Regards,> > tw> > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> the supply of Khullar's books.> >

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > uneducational person.?> > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > best wishes> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > Dear all Readers,> > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal Interlinks " . > in > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > Regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > >

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > >

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August 21, 2006

Dear Tin Win ji, Thanks for full details reply. I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check. about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event. regards kanaktw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,1. EDUCATION AND

NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial books into English.1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the cover of the book under author which is a common practice of coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two articles in K.P. & Astrology

Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as mentioned by Lajmi ji. 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of less educated Meena after 50 years.2. MEENA I & II2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of

cuspal interlinks and 50 years in stellar astrology.3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost the same.3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times of Astrology)3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa

or Nadiamsa what ever it may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's chart and the

so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal chart analysis and became basis for KP.http://vedicweb.com/c4.html 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions.

(Cuspal Interlinks, page 200) 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera planets.5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya,

the forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma Gandhi)7. CRITICISM OF KP7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. Narasimha Rao does not

make available KP placidus cusps and star lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal for him.7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its initial period and this resulted in death. (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or

papers under the KP name.7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya had to be disinterested in

everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RajneeshComments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot box to seize control of Wasco County.Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak

Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Mukesh ji,> > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > thanks for information.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote:> Dear Kanak Ji,> Regards,> > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual

movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the book.> > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr.

Khullar you may realize that the concept of cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > With regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by

: Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> PREFACE **> At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service

in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.> Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from

publication.> While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.> here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of

us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.> Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt

that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.> Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be

viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.> I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.>

Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY> AUTHOR> **> The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form.> Point from Kanak:> 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective?> 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him.> > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by

any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > Regards> Kanak> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with you because:> > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less educated > than Basakaran.)> > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002.

Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > second. > > Regards,> > tw> > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com for > the supply of Khullar's books.> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri

Khullar,> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > uneducational person.?> > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > any way

as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > best wishes> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear all Readers,> > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > in > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > Regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> >

> > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with

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August 21, 2006

Dear Satish,

This is not battle of ego but truth to dig it up.

Another thing we are here to learn KP but not to read flowery

English.

Facts are the main thing and what ever English is okay if it is

understandable.

Regards,

tw

, " R Satish " <rsatish1942

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> A high Threshold of Tolerance and humility is tha hallmark of

> enlightened individuals.So be it.

>

> Baskaran's book was orginally in Tamil translated into English

by

> S Gnansambadham of Madurai,Refer foreword by Sri Raichur on 1-9-

2000.

> He has acknowledged various sources.

>

> Contents are more important,presentation styles vary. If

> correctness of English is considered, some KP's books are a

> mutilation of English language.If we acknowledge that knowledge

from

> Tamil Nadu has been exposed to the World at large,and we have

> gained,magnanimity demands we accept the books as a whole,not in

> parts.

>

> I for one have used Baskaran's principle's as a counter check

on

> other systems. I have two books of Khullar ,Glossy books, well

> written.meant for english perfect audience.As a gross amateur,

quite

> happy.

>

> Above is not intended to hurt anyone's feelings.We should move

on,

> not get trapped in ego battles.

>

> Regards,

>

> Satish

>

, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

> >

> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

> > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not

> better

> > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

> >

> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an

hindrance

> > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial

> > books into English.

> >

> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated

Khullar

> > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not,

> > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

> > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and

> > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of

> Cuspal

> > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on

the

> > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of

> > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed

> two

> > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as

> > mentioned by Lajmi ji.

> >

> > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name

of

> > less educated Meena after 50 years.

> >

> > 2. MEENA I & II

> >

> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the

> > author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " ,

(1st

> > Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi

Printing

> > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan

1,

> > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).

> >

> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after

N.

> V.

> > Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based

on

> > Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.

> >

> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram

Sage

> > Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

> >

> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR

> >

> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and

50

> > years in stellar astrology.

> >

> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are

almost

> > the same.

> >

> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book

Nadi

> > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late

> Sri

> > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar

> > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost

> > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the

> > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated

by

> > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The

> Times

> > of Astrology)

> >

> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP,

mentioned

> in

> > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except

> Khullar

> > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd

> > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the

> > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what

ever

> it

> > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub

sub,

> > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine

planets

> > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018,

> > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the

divisions

> > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using

these

> > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first

time

> > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P.

&

> > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107).

> >

> > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA

> >

> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena

unexpectedly

> > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his

help

> > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In

> > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to

> Raman

> > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's

> > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion,

worth

> > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in

> > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with

the

> > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V.

Raman: " My

> > Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)

> >

> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain

> his " paddhati " ,

> > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning

the

> > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)

> >

> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult

> > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi

Jyotisha

> 3

> > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in

natal

> > chart analysis and became basis for KP.

> >

> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html

> >

> > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions

> whereas

> > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

> > Interlinks, page 200)

> >

> > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE

> >

> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given

importance

> > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and

> Shareera

> > planets.

> >

> > 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa

> > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance

and

> > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide

events.

> >

> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA

> >

> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which

he

> > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had

hitherto

> > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The

authors

> > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was

possible

> > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to

investigate

> > and understand the science correctly by the method herein

revealed.

> >

> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya,

the

> > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years

> ago,

> > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling

Planets.

> > (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and

each

> > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of

Mahatma

> > Gandhi)

> >

> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP

> >

> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest

in

> > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC,

,

> > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in

> > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own

SWs.

> >

> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in

his

> > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real

> > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he

> > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the

Lahiri

> > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R.

> > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star

> > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big

deal

> > for him.

> >

> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis

by

> > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and

> sub

> > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S.

Rao

> > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page

86)

> > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

> > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence

Jupiter

> > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page

> 191)

> > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled

by

> > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in

its

> > initial period and this resulted in death.

> >

> > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)

> >

> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP

name.

> >

> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart

> > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New)

Ayanamsa

> > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just

> > closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora.

By

> > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same

Moon

> > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted

Ge

> > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True

> > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given

> > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176,

> > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc

26:23:13

> in

> > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help

me

> > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of

> heart

> > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to

> reconcile " Acharaya

> > had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces

> > below.

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

> >

> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only

increased

> > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence,

or

> > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they

said

> > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of

> the

> > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property).

One

> > of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

> > Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently

> > recruited homeless people from across the United States to

settle

> at

> > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the

ballot

> > box to seize control of Wasco County.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mukesh ji,

> > >

> > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.

> > >

> > > thanks for information.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak Ji,

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal

> > Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research

on

> > Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less

> > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good

> astrologer.

> > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great

> > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

> > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though

both

> > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher,

> while

> > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and

> > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India.

Similarly

> > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally

> > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.

> > >

> > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same

> > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably

he

> > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question.

> You

> > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not

> only

> > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the

> > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also

> see

> > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal

Interlinks

> > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr.

S.

> P.

> > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the

> > book.

> > >

> > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based

on

> > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

> > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept

of

> > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on

> > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has

> > explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks "

that

> > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

> > >

> > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind

of

> > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners

we

> > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who

so

> > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

> > >

> > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena

> > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:

> > >

> > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By:

N.V.RAGHAVA

> > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of

> astro

> > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.

> > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-

> > > PREFACE **

> > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by

> > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to

an

> > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near

> > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student

> > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where

my

> > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come

in

> > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara

Sastriar

> > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

> > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in

> > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.

> > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter

> the

> > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city

> > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a

> signaller

> > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman

intrest

> in

> > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons

ensued

> on

> > verious system of astrology.

> > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was

> > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

> > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose

son

> > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar

> > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil

> > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.

> > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his

> > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of

astrology

> in

> > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was

asked

> to

> > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped

into

> > a book from publication.

> > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of

> > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd

sri.Budha

> > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed

> astrology.so

> > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the

> field

> > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to

crack

> > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of

the

> > cgarts openly and clearly.

> > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in

> > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

> > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA

Rasi.Iwas

> > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther

my

> > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA

> Rasi

> > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were

liminaries

> > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and

Vrischika.As

> > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in

our

> > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was

> > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay

presidency

> > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i

come

> > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking

law

> > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and

> > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a

> > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but

his

> > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life

> and

> > had own difficulties in the family too.

> > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to

> > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give

> him

> > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i

did

> > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent

> > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even

> > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in

the

> > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of

the

> > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its

publication.

> > possibly the world is such.

> > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i

was

> > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i

did

> > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent

> > revised edition of the published books for which i did not

cooprate

> > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss

> > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.

> > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and

> > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions

> > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not

> > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various

> > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded

me

> > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by

me

> in

> > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of

mine

> > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression

that

> > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to

service.

> > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was

> instumental

> > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my

> seclusion.i

> > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering

me

> > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.

> > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the

> readers

> > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large

> extent

> > of accuracy and precision.

> > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor

> > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.

> > > Date:13-12-1994

N.V.RAGHVA

> > CHARY

> > > AUTHOR

> > > **

> > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the

above

> > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son

Sri.Raja

> > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same

the

> > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in

its

> > original form.

> > > Point from Kanak:

> > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of

> > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about

MEENA's

> > given rules are how ifective?

> > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri

> > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect

for

> > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao

please

> > pass by Pranam to him.

> > >

> > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP

> > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and

this

> is

> > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.

> > >

> > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a

day

> it

> > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kanak

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > I agree with you because:

> > >

> > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the

Railways

> > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

> > > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi

> > printing,

> > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less

> > educated

> > > than Basakaran.)

> > >

> > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

> > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS

OF

> > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was

> > published

> > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as

in

> > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th

century

> > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy

are

> > the

> > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and

Meena

> > > second.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> > > the supply of Khullar's books.

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear mukesh ji,

> > > >

> > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first

introduce

> > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

> > > >

> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on

> telephone

> > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i

am

> MD

> > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

> > > uneducational person.?

> > > >

> > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

> > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got

> > sucess

> > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass

> only

> > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him

that

> > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

> > > >

> > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i

say

> > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

> > > >

> > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with

me,

> > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

> > > >

> > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready

to

> > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one

more

> > > rude tolk with him!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > > Dear all Readers,

> > > >

> > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done

research

> > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His

> > Fourth

> > > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal

> Interlinks " .

> > > in

> > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya

Rajneesh.

> > The

> > > > same is being uploaded to file section.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mukesh Gupta

> > > >

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August 21, 2006

dear punit in kolkata where available the interlink book.awaiting 4ur reply thanking u sampaRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: dear membersIf you read the initial pages (vii) to (xvii) of the 1st edition of "PRINCIPLES OF CUPSAL INTERLINKS ", PUBLISHED IN 2000, YOU WILL get anwers to who has invented the method, and who have helped Mr Bhaskaran to bring out the Book in English and what is the contribution of the KP members who helped him.

"Good lucktw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial books into English.1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal

Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the cover of the book under author which is a common practice of coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as mentioned by Lajmi ji. 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of less educated Meena after 50 years.2. MEENA I & II2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on Nadi Principles)", published in 1995,

took the pen name Meena II.2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 years in stellar astrology.3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost the same.3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times of Astrology)3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in his

Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha

seeking his help for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal chart

analysis and became basis for KP.http://vedicweb.com/c4.html 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal Interlinks, page 200) 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera planets.5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors of this method had recorded Nadis

on palm leaves. What was possible to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma Gandhi)7. CRITICISM OF KP7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes

that the real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal for him.7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the

results of Gulika in its initial period and this resulted in death. (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in the

book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RajneeshComments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at Rajneeshpuram, it

was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot box to seize control of Wasco County.Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Mukesh ji,> > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > thanks for information.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan wrote:> Dear Kanak Ji,> Regards,> > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great importance of worldly learning particularly language math and science. You

can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. Khullar I.T.S. is

the co-author and the driving force behind the book.> > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > With regards,> > Mukesh Gupta> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> >

For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> PREFACE **> At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar(A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya chariam.He

also stressed the importance of the constellation in pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city(M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on verious system of astrology.> Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his intention

of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into a book from publication.> While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the cgarts openly and clearly.> here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada(uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my

RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and had own difficulties in the family too.> Sri.R.G. got in touch

with me as he knew that i had a desir to stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. possibly the world is such.> Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years

ago.> In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers

in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent of accuracy and precision.> I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA CHARY> AUTHOR> **> The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its original form.> Point from Kanak:> 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's given rules are how ifective?> 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this

book Shri Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please pass by Pranam to him.> > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > Regards> Kanak> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with you because:> > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi printing, > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena

was less educated > than Basakaran.)> > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was published > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are the > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > second. > > Regards,> > tw> > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com for > the supply of Khullar's books.> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > uneducational person.?> > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got sucess > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > >

> He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > best wishes> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear all Readers,> > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His Fourth > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > in > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. The > >

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August 21, 2006

Dear Punit ji, Raghunatha ji,

Thank you for your kind words.

Regards,

tw

, " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote:

>

> Tw ji,

>

> It is commendable the way you complied it at one place. Thanks for

excellent

> post.

>

> Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On 8/21/06, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

> >

> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

> > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not

better

> > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

> >

> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance

> > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial

> > books into English.

> >

> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar

> > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not,

> > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

> > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and

> > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of

Cuspal

> > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on

the

> > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of

> > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed

two

> > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as

> > mentioned by Lajmi ji.

> >

> > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of

> > less educated Meena after 50 years.

> >

> > 2. MEENA I & II

> >

> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the

> > author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " ,

(1st

> > Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing

> > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan 1,

> > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).

> >

> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after

N. V.

> > Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on

> > Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.

> >

> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram Sage

> > Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

> >

> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR

> >

> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and

50

> > years in stellar astrology.

> >

> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are

almost

> > the same.

> >

> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book

Nadi

> > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late

Sri

> > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar

> > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost

> > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the

> > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by

> > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The

Times

> > of Astrology)

> >

> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP,

mentioned in

> > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except

Khullar

> > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd

> > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the

> > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what

ever it

> > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub

sub,

> > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine

planets

> > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018,

> > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the

divisions

> > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using

these

> > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first

time

> > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. &

> > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107).

> >

> > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA

> >

> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena

unexpectedly

> > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his

help

> > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In

> > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to

Raman

> > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's

> > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion,

worth

> > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in

> > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the

> > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V.

Raman: " My

> > Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)

> >

> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain

his " paddhati " ,

> > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning

the

> > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)

> >

> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult

> > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi

Jyotisha 3

> > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in

natal

> > chart analysis and became basis for KP.

> >

> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html

> >

> > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions

whereas

> > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

> > Interlinks, page 200)

> >

> > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE

> >

> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance

> > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and

Shareera

> > planets.

> >

> > 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa

> > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and

> > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide

events.

> >

> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA

> >

> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which

he

> > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had

hitherto

> > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The

authors

> > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was

possible

> > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to

investigate

> > and understand the science correctly by the method herein

revealed.

> >

> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the

> > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years

ago,

> > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets.

> > (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and each

> > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma

> > Gandhi)

> >

> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP

> >

> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest

in

> > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC,

,

> > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in

> > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own

SWs.

> >

> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in

his

> > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real

> > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he

> > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the

Lahiri

> > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R.

> > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star

> > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big

deal

> > for him.

> >

> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by

> > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and

sub

> > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao

> > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page

86)

> > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

> > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence

Jupiter

> > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page

191)

> > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled

by

> > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its

> > initial period and this resulted in death.

> >

> > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)

> >

> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP

name.

> >

> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart

> > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New)

Ayanamsa

> > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just

> > closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora.

By

> > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon

> > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted

Ge

> > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True

> > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given

> > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176,

> > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc

26:23:13 in

> > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help

me

> > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of

heart

> > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to

reconcile " Acharaya

> > had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces

> > below.

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

> >

> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only

increased

> > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence,

or

> > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said

> > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of

the

> > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property).

One

> > of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

> > Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently

> > recruited homeless people from across the United States to

settle at

> > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot

> > box to seize control of Wasco County.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > <%

40>, Kanak

> > Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mukesh ji,

> > >

> > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.

> > >

> > > thanks for information.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak Ji,

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal

> > Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research

on

> > Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less

> > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good

astrologer.

> > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great

> > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

> > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though

both

> > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher,

while

> > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and

> > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India.

Similarly

> > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally

> > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.

> > >

> > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same

> > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably

he

> > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question.

You

> > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not

only

> > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the

> > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also

see

> > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal

Interlinks

> > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr.

S. P.

> > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the

> > book.

> > >

> > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on

> > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

> > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of

> > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on

> > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has

> > explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " that

> > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

> > >

> > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of

> > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we

> > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who

so

> > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > >

> > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena

> > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:

> > >

> > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA

> > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of

astro

> > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.

> > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-

> > > PREFACE **

> > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by

> > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to

an

> > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near

> > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student

> > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where

my

> > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in

> > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara

Sastriar

> > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

> > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in

> > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.

> > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter

the

> > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city

> > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a

signaller

> > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman

intrest in

> > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons

ensued on

> > verious system of astrology.

> > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was

> > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

> > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son

> > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar

> > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil

> > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.

> > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his

> > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of

astrology in

> > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was

asked to

> > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped

into

> > a book from publication.

> > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of

> > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha

> > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed

astrology.so

> > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the

field

> > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to

crack

> > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of

the

> > cgarts openly and clearly.

> > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in

> > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

> > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas

> > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my

> > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA

Rasi

> > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were

liminaries

> > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As

> > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in

our

> > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was

> > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay

presidency

> > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i

come

> > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law

> > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and

> > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a

> > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but

his

> > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life

and

> > had own difficulties in the family too.

> > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to

> > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give

him

> > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i

did

> > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent

> > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even

> > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in

the

> > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the

> > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its

publication.

> > possibly the world is such.

> > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i

was

> > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i

did

> > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent

> > revised edition of the published books for which i did not

cooprate

> > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss

> > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.

> > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and

> > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions

> > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not

> > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various

> > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded

me

> > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by

me in

> > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of

mine

> > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression

that

> > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to

service.

> > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was

instumental

> > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my

seclusion.i

> > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering

me

> > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.

> > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the

readers

> > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large

extent

> > of accuracy and precision.

> > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor

> > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.

> > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA

> > CHARY

> > > AUTHOR

> > > **

> > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above

> > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son

Sri.Raja

> > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same

the

> > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in

its

> > original form.

> > > Point from Kanak:

> > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of

> > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about

MEENA's

> > given rules are how ifective?

> > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri

> > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect

for

> > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao

please

> > pass by Pranam to him.

> > >

> > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP

> > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and

this is

> > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.

> > >

> > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day

it

> > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kanak

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > I agree with you because:

> > >

> > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways

> > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

> > > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi

> > printing,

> > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less

> > educated

> > > than Basakaran.)

> > >

> > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

> > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF

> > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was

> > published

> > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as

in

> > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th

century

> > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are

> > the

> > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and

Meena

> > > second.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> >

> > > the supply of Khullar's books.

> > >

> > > <%

40>, Kanak

> > Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear mukesh ji,

> > > >

> > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first

introduce

> > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

> > > >

> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on

telephone

> > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i

am MD

> > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

> > > uneducational person.?

> > > >

> > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

> > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got

> > sucess

> > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass

only

> > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him

that

> > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

> > > >

> > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say

> > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

> > > >

> > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with

me,

> > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

> > > >

> > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready

to

> > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one

more

> > > rude tolk with him!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > > Dear all Readers,

> > > >

> > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research

> > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His

> > Fourth

> > > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal

Interlinks " .

> > > in

> > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya

Rajneesh.

> > The

> > > > same is being uploaded to file section.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mukesh Gupta

> > > >

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>

August 21, 2006

Dear Kanak,

In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's

Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in

the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12

charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see

the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second

as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of

the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It

is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same

for any house system. In his " Basic & Traditional Concepts " , page 10-

11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or

Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.

Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death

during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of

cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for

short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon

is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star.

Regards,

tw

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win ji,

>

> Thanks for full details reply.

>

> I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth

data so i will check.

> about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my

opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as

05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.

>

> regards

> kanak

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

>

> 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

> century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not

better

> educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

>

> 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance

> for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial

> books into English.

>

> 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar

> that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not,

> clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

> formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and

> suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of

Cuspal

> Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on

the

> cover of the book under author which is a common practice of

> coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed

two

> articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as

> mentioned by Lajmi ji.

>

> 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of

> less educated Meena after 50 years.

>

> 2. MEENA I & II

>

> 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the

> author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " , (1st

> Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing

> Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan 1,

> 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).

>

> 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N.

V.

> Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on

> Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.

>

> 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram Sage

> Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

>

> 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR

>

> 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50

> years in stellar astrology.

>

> 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are

almost

> the same.

>

> 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book

Nadi

> system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late

Sri

> N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar

> astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost

> followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the

> Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by

> Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The

Times

> of Astrology)

>

> 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned

in

> his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except

Khullar

> takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd

> marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the

> cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever

it

> may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub

sub,

> sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine

planets

> in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018,

> point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions

> of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using

these

> divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time

> to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. &

> Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107).

>

> 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA

>

> 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly

> called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his

help

> for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In

> order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to

Raman

> the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's

> chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth

> study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in

> applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the

> Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: " My

> Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)

>

> 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain

his " paddhati " ,

> Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning

the

> so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)

>

> 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult

> Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha

3

> Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal

> chart analysis and became basis for KP.

>

> http://vedicweb.com/c4.html

>

> 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions

whereas

> K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

> Interlinks, page 200)

>

> 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE

>

> 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance

> only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and

Shareera

> planets.

>

> 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa

> (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and

> Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.

>

> 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA

>

> 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he

> had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto

> been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors

> of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was

possible

> to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to

investigate

> and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.

>

> 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the

> forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years

ago,

> is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets.

> (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and each

> vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma

> Gandhi)

>

> 7. CRITICISM OF KP

>

> 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in

> Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC,

,

> SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in

> Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.

>

> 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in

his

> study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real

> Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he

> didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the

Lahiri

> and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R.

> Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star

> lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal

> for him.

>

> 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by

> applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and

sub

> lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao

> since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page

86)

> and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

> powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence

Jupiter

> gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page

191)

> Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by

> Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its

> initial period and this resulted in death.

>

> (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)

>

> 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP

name.

>

> 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart

> with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New)

Ayanamsa

> 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just

> closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By

> taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon

> position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted

Ge

> 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True

> with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given

> example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176,

> KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13

in

> the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me

> to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of

heart

> failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to

reconcile " Acharaya

> had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces

> below.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

>

> Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only

increased

> tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or

> the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said

> that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of

the

> year (technically, he did not have income or own any property).

One

> of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

> Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently

> recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle

at

> Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot

> box to seize control of Wasco County.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mukesh ji,

> >

> > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.

> >

> > thanks for information.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak Ji,

> > Regards,

> >

> > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal

> Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research

on

> Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less

> educated per may not practice astrology or become a good

astrologer.

> I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great

> importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

> science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both

> are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher,

while

> Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and

> founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly

> Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally

> educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.

> >

> > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same

> department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably

he

> might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question.

You

> must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not

only

> expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the

> concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also

see

> the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks

> Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S.

P.

> Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the

> book.

> >

> > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on

> the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

> through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of

> cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on

> Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has

> explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks " that

> why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

> >

> > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of

> unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we

> should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so

> ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Mukesh Gupta

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena

> no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:

> >

> > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA

> CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of

astro

> and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.

> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-

> > PREFACE **

> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by

> profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to

an

> extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near

> madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student

> studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where

my

> father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in

> close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar

> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

> chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in

> pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.

> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter

the

> same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city

> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a

signaller

> at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest

in

> the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued

on

> verious system of astrology.

> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was

> working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

> fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son

> was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar

> astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil

> verses and proverbs relating to astrology.

> > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his

> intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology

in

> english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked

to

> render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped

into

> a book from publication.

> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of

> Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha

> Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed

astrology.so

> i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the

field

> of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack

> and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the

> cgarts openly and clearly.

> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in

> VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas

> born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my

> RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA

Rasi

> is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries

> and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As

> both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our

> name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was

> neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay

presidency

> as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i

come

> away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law

> degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and

> settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a

> comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but

his

> hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life

and

> had own difficulties in the family too.

> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to

> stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give

him

> part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did

> readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent

> editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even

> without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the

> peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the

> time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication.

> possibly the world is such.

> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i

was

> called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i

did

> not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent

> revised edition of the published books for which i did not

cooprate

> and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss

> about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.

> > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and

> mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions

> arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not

> proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various

> angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded

me

> to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me

in

> the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine

> visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression

that

> i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.

> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was

instumental

> in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my

seclusion.i

> also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering

me

> suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.

> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the

readers

> in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large

extent

> of accuracy and precision.

> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor

> venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.

> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA

> CHARY

> > AUTHOR

> > **

> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above

> prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja

> on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the

> next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its

> original form.

> > Point from Kanak:

> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of

> staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about

MEENA's

> given rules are how ifective?

> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri

> Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for

> Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please

> pass by Pranam to him.

> >

> > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP

> rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this

is

> not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.

> >

> > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it

> is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kanak

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > I agree with you because:

> >

> > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways

> > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

> > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi

> printing,

> > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less

> educated

> > than Basakaran.)

> >

> > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

> > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF

> > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was

> published

> > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in

> > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century

> > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are

> the

> > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena

> > second.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> > the supply of Khullar's books.

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear mukesh ji,

> > >

> > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first

introduce

> > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

> > >

> > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on

telephone

> > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am

MD

> > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

> > uneducational person.?

> > >

> > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

> > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got

> sucess

> > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass

only

> > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him

that

> > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

> > >

> > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say

> > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

> > >

> > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me,

> > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

> > >

> > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready

to

> > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more

> > rude tolk with him!!!!!

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > Dear all Readers,

> > >

> > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research

> > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His

> Fourth

> > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal

Interlinks " .

> > in

> > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh.

> The

> > > same is being uploaded to file section.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta

> > >

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Dears TinWinji & Kanak, Alongwith pl. find the correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P. With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 charts no name

of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Thanks for full details reply.> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check.> about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > regards> kanak> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an

hindrance > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > books into English.> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > 2. MEENA I

& II> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > years in stellar astrology.> > 3.2. It is amazing

that in both cases the basic concepts are almost > the same.> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times > of Astrology)> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > cuspal interlinks at

sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system,

Meena explained to Raman > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > chart analysis and became basis for KP.>

> http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > Interlinks, page 200) > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera > planets.> > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > been kept confidential

without being brought to light. The authors > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > Gandhi)> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > Polish language)

etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > for him.> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of

Mercury, a > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > initial period and this resulted in death. > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same

Moon > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > below. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of

silence, or > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > thanks for information.> >

> > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak Ji,> > Regards,> > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be

compared. Being formally > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > book.> > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

> through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > With regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion

artical:> > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > PREFACE **> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > chariam.He also stressed the

importance of the constellation in > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on > verious system of astrology.> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > Sri

R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into > a book from publication.> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > cgarts openly and clearly.> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in

Uthirabhadrapada> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > settled in madras with high hopes and

aspirations to earn a > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and > had own difficulties in the family too.> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > possibly the world is such.> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was > called for him to

bridge the diffences in his family in which i did > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that > i gained was

that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent > of accuracy and precision.> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > CHARY> > AUTHOR> > **> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that

he would complete the same the > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > original form.> > Point from Kanak:> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's > given rules are how ifective?> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> >

> > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > Regards> > Kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > I agree with you because:> > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > printing, > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > educated > > than Basakaran.)> > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was >

published > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > the > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > second. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink

theory first introduce > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > sucess > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > >

> i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > best wishes> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > Fourth > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > > in > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > The > > > same is being uploaded to

file section.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > >

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BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji

REF NO AR/bc

DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART

DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION

DAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANU

TIME : 17 H. 15 M. 0 S. STAR : P.Ash

PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT;

CHARANA : THIRD

COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA

YONI : WANARA

LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA

LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA

LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI

LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA

RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus

LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]

NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA

NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13

TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR

SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI

AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.

PRAHARA : 1st

SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th

Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006

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BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji

TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE

NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3

DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938

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|RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |

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|ASC....... | |+JUP |

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TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART

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|+URA | |MERC +NEP |

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Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006

VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES

Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 1944

|Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938

|Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939

|Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939

|Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940

|Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941

|Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942

Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 1943

Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 1943

Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 1944

Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 1961

Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 1954

Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 1955

Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 1956

Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 1957

Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 1958

Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 1959

Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 1960

Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 1960

Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 1961

Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 1995

Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 1981

Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 1984

Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 1986

Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 1987

Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 1989

Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 1990

Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 1992

Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 1992

Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 1995

Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 2031

Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 2016

Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 2017

Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 2020

Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 2021

Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 2022

Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 2023

Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 2026

Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 2028

Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 2031

Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |

Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |

Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |

Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |

Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |

Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |

Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |

Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |

Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |

Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |

W E S T E R N A S P E C T S

Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT

SUN. TRIN TRIN

MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP

MARS SQUR

MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR

JUP. 150

VEN. SQUR SQUR

SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP

RAHU OPP

KETU

URAN CONJ SQUR

NEPT

FOR. SQUR

PLUT

Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th

SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL

MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt

MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr

MERC

JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP

VEN. 135 OPP CONJ

SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ

RAHU

KETU

URAN SQUR SXTL

NEPT

FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN

PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP

ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.

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|For 23 52 42| | | |

|Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|

|Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|

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| | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |

| | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |

| | Time 17 15 0 | |

|Asc. 27 6 28| | |

| | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|

| | |Jup -R 29 44 30|

| | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |

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| | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |

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|XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |

| | |Nept-R 15 6 28|

| | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|

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|Sat 28 35 2| | | |

|X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |

|Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|

|X 0 12 25| | | |

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DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938

BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days:

SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days

CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS

ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup

2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat

3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven

4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup

5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.

6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket

7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah

8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun

9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar

10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup

11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat

12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven

:PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket

SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE

A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House

C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets

Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord

Check Lords of planets near cusps !

HOUSE A B C D E F

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ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven

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2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo

3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat

| | |NEP: | |VE: |

4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer

| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |

5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer

| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |

6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo

7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun

8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven

| | |NEP: | |VE: |

9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat

10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket

11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer

12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven

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PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets

SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,

MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,

MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-

MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,

JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-

VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,

SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,

RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-

KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,

URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-

NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-

FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-

PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-

RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also

KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also

Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned

Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK

These are :

August 22, 2006

Dear Tin Win ji, When outer planet aspect on inner planet, Inner planet have must to give result of outer planet as per Astrosecret and KP part -1 Shri Snamugam, in this case when i adjest time as per event first i am also in doubt that 7th SL MOON signify 11th. but MOON is conj with SAT in 8 l/o 9,10 so MOON first give result of SAT and no marriage indication is clear. MOON also conj with MAR too but MOON Give first result of SAT. In this Chart VEN is starlord of three planet and sub lord of two total out of nine, five planet are conected with VEN.so i think this is answer of your question "Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces " Chandrakant Bhatt's Gujarati book"NAKSHTRA-UPNAKSHTRA PADHDHATY Part:2 Page no: 7 Bhatt discuss on Rajnishji's chart but time is 05.03 PM.and place he take is JABALPUR.

Birth place Kutchwad is small town near Jabalpur so most of take lon-lat of Jabalpur. regards kanak tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see the planet positions

(except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Thanks for full details reply.> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check.> about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > regards> kanak> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > books into English.>

> 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > 2. MEENA I & II> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > author of "Nadi

Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > years in stellar astrology.> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost > the same.> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu

said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times > of Astrology)> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub,

sub sub, > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > chart

and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > 4.4. Baskaran said that

Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > Interlinks, page 200) > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera > planets.> > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible

> to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > Gandhi)> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for

instance in his > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > for him.> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter > gets the power to

kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > initial period and this resulted in death. > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge > 00:06:40 and Rahu position

is of course different by taking True > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > below. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > that he wanted 365 cars so

that he had a new one for each day of the > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > thanks for information.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:>

> Dear Kanak Ji,> > Regards,> > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > I Know

Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > book.> > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr.

Khullar is based on > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > With regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA >

CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > PREFACE **> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar

astrology.> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on > verious system of astrology.> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > intention of publishing a book

on the stellar system of astrology in > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into > a book from publication.> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > cgarts openly and clearly.> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > born in

MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his > hopes

were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and > had own difficulties in the family too.> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > possibly the world is such.> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish

subsequent > revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of

truvallure was instumental > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent > of accuracy and precision.> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > CHARY> > AUTHOR> > **> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its

> original form.> > Point from Kanak:> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's > given rules are how ifective?> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > is fashion in

Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > Regards> > Kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > I agree with you because:> > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > printing, > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > educated > > than Basakaran.)> > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > published > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > >

Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > the > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > second. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > >

> > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > sucess > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > even today i dont

understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > best wishes> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > Fourth > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > > in > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > The > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >

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August 23, 2006

Dear lajimi ji, If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore of 7th then why he was unmarroed? second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet . Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly. regards KanakYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dears TinWinji

& Kanak, Alongwith pl. find the correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P. With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It is not a matter of different

house system beacuse Asc is the same for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Thanks for full details reply.> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check.> about Shri Rajnish

ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > regards> kanak> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > books into English.> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

> formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > 2. MEENA I & II> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > 1951 ; and

3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > years in stellar astrology.> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost > the same.> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > astrology (based on

Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times > of Astrology)> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus

knew the divisions > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > Modi

Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > Interlinks, page 200) > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE>

> 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera > planets.> > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage

Satyacharya, the > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > Gandhi)> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one

between the Lahiri > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > for him.> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and sub > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > initial

period and this resulted in death. > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) Ayanamsa > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc

Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > below. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > Parable of

the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > thanks for information.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak Ji,> > Regards,> > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on >

Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You >

must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. P. > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > book.> > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

> > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > With regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > PREFACE **>

> At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where my > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller > at

Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on > verious system of astrology.> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into > a book from publication.> > While we

were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > cgarts openly and clearly.> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > and they were in trine.Kuja is

the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and > had own difficulties in the family too.> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to

give him > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > possibly the world is such.> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > In the

published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded me > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.>

> I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent > of accuracy and precision.> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > CHARY> > AUTHOR> > **> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > original form.> > Point from Kanak:> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa

Rao.> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's > given rules are how ifective?> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > Regards> > Kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > I agree with you because:> >

> > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > printing, > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > educated > > than Basakaran.)> > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > published > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > the > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > second. >

> > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > uneducational

person.?> > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > sucess > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him that > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > rude tolk with

him!!!!!> > > > > > best wishes> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > Fourth > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > > in > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > The > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > >

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AGNILORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVARASI : Sagitarius-DhanusLORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANANAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVARSID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANIAYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.PRAHARA : 1stSUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4thCast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya RajneeshjiTRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938|------------------------------||RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------||ASC....... | |+JUP || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------|| | |+NEP

|| | | || | | ||------------------------------||MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU ||VEN. SAT. | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART|------------------------------||+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS || | | |+PLU || | | | ||------------------------------||SUN. FOR. | | || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------||+URA | |MERC +NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05

1944|Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938|Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939|Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939|Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940|Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941|Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 1943Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 1943Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 1944Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 1961Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 1954Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 1955Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 1956Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 1957Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 1958Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 ->

22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 1959Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 1960Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 1960Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 1961Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 1995Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 1981Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 1984Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 1986Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 1987Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 1989Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 1990Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 1992Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12

1992Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 1995Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 2031Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 2016Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 2017Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 2020Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 2021Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 2022Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 2023Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 2026Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 2028Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 2031Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19

12 2032 |Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |W E S T E R N A S P E C T SPlan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT SUN. TRIN TRIN MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP MARS SQUR MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR JUP. 150 VEN. SQUR SQUR SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP RAHU OPP KETU URAN CONJ SQUR NEPT FOR. SQUR PLUT Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12thSUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr MERC JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP VEN. 135 OPP CONJ SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ RAHU KETU URAN SQUR SXTL NEPT

FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77--------------------------------| | | | || | | | ||For 23 52 42| | | ||Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25||Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|| | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|| | | | |--------------------------------| | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | || | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | || | Time 17 15 0 | ||Asc. 27 6 28| | || | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|| | |Jup -R 29 44 30|| | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|| | | || | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | || | | ||XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | || | |Nept-R 15 6 28|| | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|| | | || |CAST

BY:L.Y.RAO | |--------------------------------| | | | ||Sat 28 35 2| | | ||X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | ||Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| ||Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3||Merc 13 29 15| | | ||Mars 8 8 59| | | ||X 0 12 25| | | |--------------------------------DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: SOOK Bal. Moon 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETSASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU

Jup Sat Ven Sun 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSESSIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCEA-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in HouseC-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps !HOUSE A B C D E F----ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo| | | | |SA:RA: |3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat| | |NEP: | |VE: |4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |5th | |PLU:

|SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo| | | | |SU:RA: |7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun| | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven| | |NEP: | |VE: |9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat| | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket|MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer| | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |----PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting PlanetsSUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-VEN.

A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK These are : >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

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August 23, 2006

Dear Lajmi ji,

Please check longitude.

LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA

LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA

Regards,

tw

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear lajimi ji,

>

> If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th

and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore

of 7th then why he was unmarroed?

>

> second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet .

>

> Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly.

>

> regards

> Kanak

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

> Dears TinWinji & Kanak,

> Alongwith pl. find the

correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P.

> With kind regards,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in

Khullar's

> Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in

> the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12

> charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will

see

> the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to

second

> as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using

of

> the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It

> is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same

> for any house system. In his " Basic & Traditional Concepts " , page

10-

> 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or

> Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.

>

> Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death

> during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of

> cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for

> short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon

> is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > Thanks for full details reply.

> >

> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth

> data so i will check.

> > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my

> opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as

> 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.

> >

> > regards

> > kanak

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY

> >

> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th

> > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not

> better

> > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.

> >

> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an

hindrance

> > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial

> > books into English.

> >

> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated

Khullar

> > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not,

> > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in

> > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and

> > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of

> Cuspal

> > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on

> the

> > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of

> > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed

> two

> > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as

> > mentioned by Lajmi ji.

> >

> > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name

of

> > less educated Meena after 50 years.

> >

> > 2. MEENA I & II

> >

> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the

> > author of " Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology " ,

(1st

> > Edition of Part I & II by " Meena " on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi

Printing

> > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by " R. Gopalakrishna Row " , on Jan

1,

> > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).

> >

> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after

N.

> V.

> > Raghavachary the author of " Practical Stellar Astrology (Based

on

> > Nadi Principles) " , published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.

> >

> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi " , " Bhrigu Sutram

Sage

> > Bhrigu " , " Bhrugu Prashna Nadi " etc. is not Meena or Meena I.

> >

> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR

> >

> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and

50

> > years in stellar astrology.

> >

> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are

> almost

> > the same.

> >

> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book

> Nadi

> > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late

> Sri

> > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar

> > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost

> > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the

> > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated

by

> > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The

> Times

> > of Astrology)

> >

> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP,

mentioned

> in

> > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except

> Khullar

> > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd

> > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the

> > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what

ever

> it

> > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub

> sub,

> > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine

> planets

> > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018,

> > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the

divisions

> > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using

> these

> > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first

time

> > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P.

&

> > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107).

> >

> > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA

> >

> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena

unexpectedly

> > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his

> help

> > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In

> > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to

> Raman

> > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's

> > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion,

worth

> > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in

> > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with

the

> > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V.

Raman: " My

> > Experiences in Astrology " , Reprint 2001, page 238-9)

> >

> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain

> his " paddhati " ,

> > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning

> the

> > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)

> >

> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult

> > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi

Jyotisha

> 3

> > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in

natal

> > chart analysis and became basis for KP.

> >

> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html

> >

> > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions

> whereas

> > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal

> > Interlinks, page 200)

> >

> > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE

> >

> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given

importance

> > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and

> Shareera

> > planets.

> >

> > 5.2. In the " Bhrugu Nandi Nadi " book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa

> > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance

and

> > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide

events.

> >

> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA

> >

> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which

he

> > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had

hitherto

> > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The

authors

> > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was

> possible

> > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to

> investigate

> > and understand the science correctly by the method herein

revealed.

> >

> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya,

the

> > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years

> ago,

> > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling

Planets.

> > (The original work " Satyasamhita " consisting of 125 vols and

each

> > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of

Mahatma

> > Gandhi)

> >

> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP

> >

> > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest

in

> > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC,

> ,

> > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in

> > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own

SWs.

> >

> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in

> his

> > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real

> > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he

> > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the

> Lahiri

> > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R.

> > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star

> > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big

deal

> > for him.

> >

> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis

by

> > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and

> sub

> > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S.

Rao

> > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: " My Experiences in Astrology " , page

> 86)

> > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a

> > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence

> Jupiter

> > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page

> 191)

> > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled

by

> > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in

its

> > initial period and this resulted in death.

> >

> > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)

> >

> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP

> name.

> >

> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart

> > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New)

> Ayanamsa

> > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just

> > closed to " Larhiri " 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora.

By

> > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same

Moon

> > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted

> Ge

> > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True

> > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given

> > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176,

> > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc

26:23:13

> in

> > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help

me

> > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of

> heart

> > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to

> reconcile " Acharaya

> > had to be disinterested in everything " with the 93 Rolls-Royces

> > below.

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

> >

> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only

> increased

> > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence,

or

> > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they

said

> > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of

> the

> > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property).

> One

> > of his followers explains this in what is called " Face to Faith

> > Parable of the Rolls Royces. " When the Rajneeshees subsequently

> > recruited homeless people from across the United States to

settle

> at

> > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the

ballot

> > box to seize control of Wasco County.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mukesh ji,

> > >

> > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.

> > >

> > > thanks for information.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak Ji,

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal

> > Interlinks theory. I had only written that " He has done research

> on

> > Cuspal Inter links. " I also don't say that an uneducated or less

> > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good

> astrologer.

> > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great

> > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and

> > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though

both

> > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher,

> while

> > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and

> > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India.

Similarly

> > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally

> > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.

> > >

> > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same

> > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably

> he

> > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question.

> You

> > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not

> only

> > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the

> > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also

> see

> > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal

Interlinks

> > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr.

S.

> P.

> > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the

> > book.

> > >

> > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on

> > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone

> > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept

of

> > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on

> > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has

> > explained in his second book " Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks "

that

> > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology.

> > >

> > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of

> > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners

we

> > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who

so

> > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Mukesh Gupta

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,

> > >

> > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena

> > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:

> > >

> > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By:

N.V.RAGHAVA

> > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of

> astro

> > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.

> > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-

> > > PREFACE **

> > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by

> > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to

> an

> > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near

> > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student

> > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where

> my

> > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come

in

> > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara

Sastriar

> > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya

> > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in

> > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.

> > > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter

> the

> > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city

> > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a

> signaller

> > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman

intrest

> in

> > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons

ensued

> on

> > verious system of astrology.

> > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was

> > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

> > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose

son

> > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar

> > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil

> > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.

> > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his

> > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of

astrology

> in

> > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was

asked

> to

> > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped

> into

> > a book from publication.

> > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of

> > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd

sri.Budha

> > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed

> astrology.so

> > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the

> field

> > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to

crack

> > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of

the

> > cgarts openly and clearly.

> > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in

> > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada

> > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA

Rasi.Iwas

> > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther

my

> > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA

> Rasi

> > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were

liminaries

> > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and

Vrischika.As

> > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in

our

> > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was

> > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.

> > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay

> presidency

> > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i

> come

> > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking

law

> > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and

> > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a

> > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but

> his

> > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life

> and

> > had own difficulties in the family too.

> > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to

> > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give

> him

> > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i

did

> > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent

> > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even

> > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in

the

> > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of

the

> > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its

publication.

> > possibly the world is such.

> > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i

> was

> > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i

> did

> > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent

> > revised edition of the published books for which i did not

> cooprate

> > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss

> > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.

> > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and

> > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions

> > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not

> > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various

> > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded

> me

> > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by

me

> in

> > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of

mine

> > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression

> that

> > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to

service.

> > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was

> instumental

> > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my

> seclusion.i

> > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering

> me

> > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.

> > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the

> readers

> > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large

> extent

> > of accuracy and precision.

> > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor

> > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.

> > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA

> > CHARY

> > > AUTHOR

> > > **

> > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the

above

> > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son

Sri.Raja

> > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same

the

> > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in

its

> > original form.

> > > Point from Kanak:

> > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.

> > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of

> > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.

> > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about

> MEENA's

> > given rules are how ifective?

> > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri

> > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect

for

> > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao

please

> > pass by Pranam to him.

> > >

> > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP

> > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and

this

> is

> > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.

> > >

> > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day

it

> > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kanak

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > I agree with you because:

> > >

> > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the

Railways

> > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book " Nadi

> > > Jyotisha " in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi

> > printing,

> > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less

> > educated

> > > than Basakaran.)

> > >

> > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was

> > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS

OF

> > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was

> > published

> > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as

in

> > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th

century

> > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy

are

> > the

> > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and

Meena

> > > second.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for

> > > the supply of Khullar's books.

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear mukesh ji,

> > > >

> > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first

> introduce

> > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,

> > > >

> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on

> telephone

> > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i

am

> MD

> > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an

> > > uneducational person.?

> > > >

> > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in

> > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got

> > sucess

> > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass

> only

> > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him

> that

> > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.

> > > >

> > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i

say

> > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.

> > > >

> > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with

me,

> > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.

> > > >

> > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready

> to

> > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one

more

> > > rude tolk with him!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:

> > > > Dear all Readers,

> > > >

> > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done

research

> > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His

> > Fourth

> > > > Book is now ready for release on " Horary and Cuspal

> Interlinks " .

> > > in

> > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya

Rajneesh.

> > The

> > > > same is being uploaded to file section.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mukesh Gupta

> > > >

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>

> BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji

>

> REF NO AR/bc

>

> DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART

>

> DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION

>

> DAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANU

>

> TIME : 17 H. 15 M. 0 S. STAR : P.Ash

>

> PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT;

> CHARANA : THIRD

>

> COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA

>

> YONI : WANARA

>

> LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA

>

> LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA

>

> LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI

>

> LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA

>

> RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus

>

> LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]

>

> NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA

>

> NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13

>

> TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR

>

> SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI

>

> AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.

> PRAHARA : 1st

>

> SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th

>

> Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006

>

> Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77

BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji

> TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE

>

> NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3

> DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938

>

> |------------------------------|

> |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |

> | | | | |

> |------------------------------|

> |ASC....... | |+JUP |

> | | | |

> |---------------| |---------------|

> | | |+NEP |

> | | | |

> |------------------------------|

> |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU |

> |VEN. SAT. | | | |

> | | | | |

> |------------------------------|

>

> TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART

>

> |------------------------------|

> | | | |+PLU |

> | | | | |

> |------------------------------|

> |SUN. FOR. | | |

> | | | |

> |---------------| |---------------|

> |+URA | |MERC +NEP |

> | | | |

> |------------------------------|

> |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU |

> | | | | |

> |------------------------------|

>

> Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006

>

VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES

>

> Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05

1944

> |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938

> |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939

> |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939

> |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940

> |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941

> |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942

> Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01

1943

> Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05

1943

> Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05

1944

>

> Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05

1961

> Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10

1954

> Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11

1955

> Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10

1956

> Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11

1957

> Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11

1958

> Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04

1959

> Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06

1960

> Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10

1960

> Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05

1961

>

> Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05

1995

> Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07

1981

> Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01

1984

> Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04

1986

> Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04

1987

> Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12

1989

> Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09

1990

> Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01

1992

> Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12

1992

> Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05

1995

>

> Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05

2031

> Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10

2016

> Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10

2017

> Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08

2020

> Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06

2021

> Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11

2022

> Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11

2023

> Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06

2026

> Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09

2028

> Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05

2031

>

> Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |

> Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |

> Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |

> Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |

> Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |

> Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |

> Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |

> Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |

> Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |

> Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |

>

W E S T E R N A S P E C T S

>

> Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR.

PLUT

>

> SUN. TRIN TRIN

> MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP

> MARS SQUR

> MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR

> JUP. 150

> VEN. SQUR SQUR

> SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP

> RAHU OPP

> KETU

> URAN CONJ SQUR

> NEPT

> FOR. SQUR

> PLUT

>

> Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th

>

> SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL

> MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt

> MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr

> MERC

> JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP

> VEN. 135 OPP CONJ

> SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ

> RAHU

> KETU

> URAN SQUR SXTL

> NEPT

> FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN

> PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP

>

> ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.

>

> Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77

>

> --------------------------------

> | | | | |

> |For 23 52 42| | | |

> |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|

> |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|

> | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|

> | | | | |

> --------------------------------

> | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |

> | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |

> | | Time 17 15 0 | |

> |Asc. 27 6 28| | |

> | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|

> | | |Jup -R 29 44 30|

> | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |

> | | | |

> :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|

> | | | |

> | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |

> | | | |

> |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |

> | | |Nept-R 15 6 28|

> | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|

> | | | |

> | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |

> --------------------------------

> | | | | |

> |Sat 28 35 2| | | |

> |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |

> |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| |

> |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|

> |Merc 13 29 15| | | |

> |Mars 8 8 59| | | |

> |X 0 12 25| | | |

> --------------------------------

>

> DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938

> BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days:

> SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days

>

> CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS

> ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup

> 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat

> 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven

> 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup

> 5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.

> 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket

> 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah

> 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun

> 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar

> 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup

> 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat

> 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven

> :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket

>

SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

>

> SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE

> A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House

> C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets

> Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord

> Check Lords of planets near cusps !

>

> HOUSE A B C D E F

> -

---

> ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven

> | | | | |KE: |

> 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo

> | | | | |SA:RA: |

> 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat

> | | |NEP: | |VE: |

> 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer

> | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |

> 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer

> | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |

> 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo

> | | | | |SU:RA: |

> 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun

> | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|

> 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven

> | | |NEP: | |VE: |

> 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat

> | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|

> 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket

> 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer

> | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|

> 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven

> | | | | |KE: |

> -

---

>

> PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets

>

> SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,

> MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,

> MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-

> MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,

> JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-

> VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,

> SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,

> RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-

> KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,

> URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-

> NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-

> FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-

> PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-

>

> RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also

> KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also

> Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned

> Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK

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Dear Kanak, Thank you very much for pointing out the slight mistake... The s/l of the VII works out to be MOON for the time 5-18-00 PM. The s/l and the ss/l of the Ascendant are the same as the st.lord and the s/l of the Moon...! Most of the other sublords will ALSO explain major events in his life... Your query has helped to bring out the extreme accuracy of K.P., as a couple

of minutes' change in the TOB,can change the s/l of many cusps... The TOB of 17-18-00 PM gives the s/l of the VIIth as Moon which as said above explains Rajneesh's remaining unmarried...and the arousal of his Kundalini (Jagrit Kumdalini state)attracted females to him,"like bees to honey"...described not only in Patanjali Sutras but also by another great man with a jagrith Kundalini, Pt. Gopi Krishna of Srinagar,who has written an excellent book on Kundalini...based on his personal experiences... Thank you very much,the freshly cast corrected BC of Acharya Rajneeshji is sent alongwith... With the very best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear lajimi ji, If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore of 7th then why he was unmarroed? second MOON is Asc. SSL but MOON is not in Ruling planet . Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly. regards KanakYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dears TinWinji & Kanak,

Alongwith pl. find the correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P. With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak,In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of the same Swiss Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of

cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Thanks for full details reply.> > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth data so i will check.> about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > regards> kanak> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry

figures of 20th > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not better > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > for Baskaran to present his new idea by translating his crucial > books into English.> > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of Cuspal > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on the > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed two > articles in

K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > less educated Meena after 50 years.> > 2. MEENA I & II> > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. V. > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu

Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > 3. WHO IS FIRST INVENTOR> > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > years in stellar astrology.> > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are almost > the same.> > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book Nadi > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late Sri > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The Times > of Astrology)> > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which differs from KP, mentioned in > his

Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except Khullar > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever it > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub sub, > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine planets > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using these > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P. & > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one

day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his help > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to Raman > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > 4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain his "paddhati", > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning the > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum

owner of Manorama Occult > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha 3 > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions whereas > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > Interlinks, page 200) > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and Shareera > planets.> > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide

events.> > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was possible > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to investigate > and understand the science correctly by the method herein revealed.> > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years ago, > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > Gandhi)> > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > 7.1.

Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, , > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in his > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the Lahiri > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > for him.> > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > applying only star lord of the planet without

placidus cusps and sub > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page 86) > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > powerful maraca, both by ownership and occupation and hence Jupiter > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page 191) > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > initial period and this resulted in death. > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP name.> > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > with a different POB from reliable sources, the

K.P. (New) Ayanamsa > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted Ge > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 in > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of heart > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to reconcile "Acharaya > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > below. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only increased > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of the > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). One > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle at > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > thanks for information.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak Ji,> > Regards,> > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research on > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good astrologer. > I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya,

though both > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, while > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably he > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. You > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not only > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also see > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran

has declared that Mr. S. P. > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > book.> > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > why we should use the Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > With

regards,> > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of astro > and occult siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > PREFACE **> > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to an > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in

mysore state then) where my > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > As my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter the > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a signaller > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest in > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued on > verious system of astrology.> > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had

> fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know as R.G.) expressed his > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology in > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked to > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped into > a book from publication.> > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed astrology.so > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the field > of astrology.sri.budha nadi

srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > cgarts openly and clearly.> > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born in > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA Rasi > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay presidency

> as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i come > away to my native place to start practice of low after taking law > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but his > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life and > had own difficulties in the family too.> > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give him > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > peface if the

book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i thought of the > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > possibly the world is such.> > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i was > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i did > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > revised edition of the published books for which i did not cooprate > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > angles.After several years,close friends and my brother

persuded me > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me in > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression that > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was instumental > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my seclusion.i > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering me > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the readers > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large extent > of accuracy and precision.> > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> >

Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > CHARY> > AUTHOR> > **> > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > original form.> > Point from Kanak:> > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about MEENA's > given rules are how ifective?> > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao

please > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this is > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > Regards> > Kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > I agree with you because:> > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > printing, > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > educated

> > than Basakaran.)> > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > published > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > the > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > second. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > >

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first introduce > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on telephone > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am MD > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > sucess > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass only > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I

never agree with him that > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready to > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > best wishes> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already

Published 3 Books. His > Fourth > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal Interlinks". > > in > > > this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > The > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> >

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> > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N AL.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028TEL: 2446 7314email: lyastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.inBIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya RajneeshjiREF NO AR/bcDETAILS OF BIRTH CHART DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATIONDAY : FRIDAY RASI :

DHANUTIME : 17 H. 15 M. 0 S. STAR : P.AshPLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; CHARANA : THIRDCOUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYAYONI : WANARALAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYALONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYALAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNILORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVARASI : Sagitarius-DhanusLORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANANAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVARSID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANIAYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.PRAHARA : 1stSUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4thCast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya RajneeshjiTRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5

1938|------------------------------||RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------||ASC....... | |+JUP || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------|| | |+NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU ||VEN. SAT. | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART|------------------------------||+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS || | | |+PLU || | | | ||------------------------------||SUN. FOR.

| | || | | || | | ||---------------| |---------------||+URA | |MERC +NEP || | | || | | ||------------------------------||SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU || | | | || | | | ||------------------------------|Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 1944|Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938|Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939|Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939|Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940|Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941|Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 1943Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 1943Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937

-> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 1944Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 1961Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 1954Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 1955Rah Bhk. 22 10 1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 1956Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 1957Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 1958Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 1959Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 1960Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 1960Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 1961Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 1995Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 ->

10 07 1981Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 1984Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 1986Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971 |Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 1987Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 1989Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 1990Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 1992Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 1992Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 1995Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 2031Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 2016Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 2017Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 2020Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05

2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 2021Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021 -> 22 11 2022Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 2023Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 2026Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 2028Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 2031Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |W E S T E R N A S P E C T SPlan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU

URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT SUN. TRIN TRIN MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP MARS SQUR MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR JUP. 150 VEN. SQUR SQUR SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP RAHU OPP KETU URAN CONJ SQUR NEPT FOR. SQUR PLUT Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12thSUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr MERC JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP VEN. 135 OPP CONJ SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ RAHU KETU URAN SQUR SXTL NEPT FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77--------------------------------| | | | || | | | ||For 23 52 42| | | ||Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25||Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47

58|| | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|| | | | |--------------------------------| | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | || | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | || | Time 17 15 0 | ||Asc. 27 6 28| | || | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|| | |Jup -R 29 44 30|| | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | || | | |:---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|| | | || | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | || | | ||XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | || | |Nept-R 15 6 28|| | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|| | | || |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |--------------------------------| | | | ||Sat 28 35 2| | | ||X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | ||Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| ||Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3||Merc 13 29 15| | | ||Mars 8 8 59| | | ||X 0 12 25| | |

|--------------------------------DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: SOOK Bal. Moon 3 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETSASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup5th Mer Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket

SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSESSIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCEA-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in HouseC-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps !HOUSE A B C D E F----ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo| | | | |SA:RA: |3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat| | |NEP: | |VE: |4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo| | | | |SU:RA: |7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun| | |

| |KE:RA:JU:SA|8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven| | |NEP: | |VE: |9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat| | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket|MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | | |JU:VE:SA:MA|11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer| | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven| | | | |KE: |----PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting PlanetsSUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-VEN.

A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK These are : >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N A

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TEL: 2446 7314

email: lyastro1

BIRTH DETAILS OF

DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART

DATE : 11 12 1931 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION

DAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANU

TIME : 17 H. 18 M. 0 S. STAR : P.Ash

PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT;

CHARANA : THIRD

COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA

YONI : WANARA

LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA

LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA

LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI

LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA

RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus

LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]

NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA

NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13

TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR

SID.TIME : 17 H. 32 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI

AYANAMSA : 22 D. 49 M. 0 S.

PRAHARA : 1st

SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th

Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 24-08-2006

Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77

BIRTH DETAILS OF

TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE

NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3

DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 110 Days ENDS ON 31 3 1938

|------------------------------|

|RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |

| | | | |

|------------------------------|

|ASC....... | |+JUP |

| | | |

|---------------| |---------------|

| | |+NEP |

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TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART

|------------------------------|

| | | |+PLU |

| | | | |

|------------------------------|

|SUN. FOR. | | |

| | | |

|---------------| |---------------|

|+URA | |MERC +NEP |

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VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES

Ven DASA 29 03 1918 -> 29 03 1938 |Sun DASA 29 03 1938 -> 29 03 1944

|Sun Bhk. 29 03 1938 -> 17 07 1938

|Moo Bhk. 17 07 1938 -> 17 01 1939

|Mar Bhk. 17 01 1939 -> 23 05 1939

|Rah Bhk. 23 05 1939 -> 17 04 1940

|Jup Bhk. 17 04 1940 -> 05 02 1941

|Sat Bhk. 05 02 1941 -> 17 01 1942

Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 29 03 1934 |Mer Bhk. 17 01 1942 -> 23 11 1942

Mer Bhk. 29 03 1934 -> 29 01 1937 |Ket Bhk. 23 11 1942 -> 29 03 1943

Ket Bhk. 29 01 1937 -> 29 03 1938 |Ven Bhk. 29 03 1943 -> 29 03 1944

Moo DASA 29 03 1944 -> 29 03 1954 |Mar DASA 29 03 1954 -> 29 03 1961

Moo Bhk. 29 03 1944 -> 29 01 1945 |Mar Bhk. 29 03 1954 -> 26 08 1954

Mar Bhk. 29 01 1945 -> 29 08 1945 |Rah Bhk. 26 08 1954 -> 14 09 1955

Rah Bhk. 29 08 1945 -> 01 03 1947 |Jup Bhk. 14 09 1955 -> 20 08 1956

Jup Bhk. 01 03 1947 -> 29 06 1948 |Sat Bhk. 20 08 1956 -> 29 09 1957

Sat Bhk. 29 06 1948 -> 29 01 1950 |Mer Bhk. 29 09 1957 -> 26 09 1958

Mer Bhk. 29 01 1950 -> 29 06 1951 |Ket Bhk. 26 09 1958 -> 23 02 1959

Ket Bhk. 29 06 1951 -> 29 01 1952 |Ven Bhk. 23 02 1959 -> 23 04 1960

Ven Bhk. 29 01 1952 -> 29 09 1953 |Sun Bhk. 23 04 1960 -> 29 08 1960

Sun Bhk. 29 09 1953 -> 29 03 1954 |Moo Bhk. 29 08 1960 -> 29 03 1961

Rah DASA 29 03 1961 -> 29 03 1979 |Jup DASA 29 03 1979 -> 29 03 1995

Rah Bhk. 29 03 1961 -> 11 12 1963 |Jup Bhk. 29 03 1979 -> 17 05 1981

Jup Bhk. 11 12 1963 -> 05 05 1966 |Sat Bhk. 17 05 1981 -> 29 11 1983

Sat Bhk. 05 05 1966 -> 11 03 1969 |Mer Bhk. 29 11 1983 -> 05 03 1986

Mer Bhk. 11 03 1969 -> 29 09 1971 |Ket Bhk. 05 03 1986 -> 11 02 1987

Ket Bhk. 29 09 1971 -> 17 10 1972 |Ven Bhk. 11 02 1987 -> 11 10 1989

Ven Bhk. 17 10 1972 -> 17 10 1975 |Sun Bhk. 11 10 1989 -> 29 07 1990

Sun Bhk. 17 10 1975 -> 11 09 1976 |Moo Bhk. 29 07 1990 -> 29 11 1991

Moo Bhk. 11 09 1976 -> 11 03 1978 |Mar Bhk. 29 11 1991 -> 05 11 1992

Mar Bhk. 11 03 1978 -> 29 03 1979 |Rah Bhk. 05 11 1992 -> 29 03 1995

Sat DASA 29 03 1995 -> 29 03 2014 |Mer DASA 29 03 2014 -> 29 03 2031

Sat Bhk. 29 03 1995 -> 02 04 1998 |Mer Bhk. 29 03 2014 -> 26 08 2016

Mer Bhk. 02 04 1998 -> 11 12 2000 |Ket Bhk. 26 08 2016 -> 23 08 2017

Ket Bhk. 11 12 2000 -> 20 01 2002 |Ven Bhk. 23 08 2017 -> 23 06 2020

Ven Bhk. 20 01 2002 -> 20 03 2005 |Sun Bhk. 23 06 2020 -> 29 04 2021

Sun Bhk. 20 03 2005 -> 02 03 2006 |Moo Bhk. 29 04 2021 -> 29 09 2022

Moo Bhk. 02 03 2006 -> 02 10 2007 |Mar Bhk. 29 09 2022 -> 26 09 2023

Mar Bhk. 02 10 2007 -> 11 11 2008 |Rah Bhk. 26 09 2023 -> 14 04 2026

Rah Bhk. 11 11 2008 -> 17 09 2011 |Jup Bhk. 14 04 2026 -> 20 07 2028

Jup Bhk. 17 09 2011 -> 29 03 2014 |Sat Bhk. 20 07 2028 -> 29 03 2031

Ket DASA 29 03 2031 -> 29 03 2038 |

Ket Bhk. 29 03 2031 -> 26 08 2031 |

Ven Bhk. 26 08 2031 -> 26 10 2032 |

Sun Bhk. 26 10 2032 -> 02 03 2033 |

Moo Bhk. 02 03 2033 -> 02 10 2033 |

Mar Bhk. 02 10 2033 -> 01 03 2034 |

Rah Bhk. 01 03 2034 -> 17 03 2035 |

Jup Bhk. 17 03 2035 -> 23 02 2036 |

Sat Bhk. 23 02 2036 -> 02 04 2037 |

Mer Bhk. 02 04 2037 -> 29 03 2038 |

W E S T E R N A S P E C T S

Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT

SUN. TRIN TRIN

MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP

MARS SQUR

MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR

JUP. 150

VEN. SQUR SQUR

SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP

RAHU OPP

KETU

URAN CONJ SQUR

NEPT

FOR. SQUR

PLUT

Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th

SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL

MOON SXTL 135 OPP CONJ Ssxt

MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr

MERC

JUP. 150 TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP

VEN. 135 OPP CONJ

SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ

RAHU

KETU

URAN SQUR SXTL

NEPT

FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN

PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP

ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.

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| | | | |

|For 24 58 16| | | |

|Uran-R 22 42 14| | |IV 0 58 7|

|Rahu 8 33 14|II 5 31 36|III 5 34 7|V 25 35 12|

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| | NAME: | |

| | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |

| | Time 17 18 0 | |

|Asc. 28 10 26| | |

| | SID.TIME 17 h. 32 m. 55 s. |VI 23 19 42|

| | |Jup -R 29 48 41|

| | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |

| | | |

:---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|

| | | |

| | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |

| | | |

|XII 23 19 42| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |

| | |Nept-R 15 10 40|

| | Ayan 22 d. 49 m. 0 s. |VII 28 10 26|

| | | |

| |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |

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| | | | |

|Sat 28 39 14| | | |

|X1 25 35 12|Sun 25 40 4| | |

|Ven 19 21 30| | |Ketu 8 33 14|

|X 0 58 7| | | |

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DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 110 Days ENDS ON 31 3 1938

BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 110 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 31 Days:

SOOK Bal. Jup. 5 Days

CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS

ASC Sat Jup Ven Sat :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup

2nd Mar Ket Mar Moo :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat

3rd Ven Sun Mer Ven :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven

4th Mer Mar Mer Mar :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup

5th Mer Jup Mer Sat :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.

6th Moo Mer Moo Sun :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket

7th Sun Sun Moo Ket :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Jup

8th Ven Mar Sun Ven :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun

9th Mar Sat Mer Mer :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar

10th Jup Ket Ven Ven :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Sat

11th Jup Ven Mer Jup :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Mer

12th Sat Moo Sun Ven :FOR. Jup Mer Rah Sat

:PLUT-R Mer Jup Sun Sun

SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE

A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House

C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets

Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord

Check Lords of planets near cusps !

HOUSE A B C D E F

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ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven

| | | | |KE: |

2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Mar

3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Mer

| | |NEP: | |VE: |

4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer

| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |

5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer

| | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |

6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo

7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Moo

8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sun

| | |NEP: | |VE: |

9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Mer

10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ven

11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer

12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun

| | | | |KE: |

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PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets

SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 8,12,

MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 6, 7,

MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F- 2,

MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 3, 4, 5, 9,11,

JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-

VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1,10,

SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F-

RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-

KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-

URAN A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-

NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-

FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-

PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-

RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also

KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also

Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned

Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK

These are :

August 25, 2006

Dear Members, I was out of station for last few days, so I could not respond. Reactions of members on Cuspal Interlinks Theory and analysis of Acharaya Rajneesh’s chart by Mr. Khullar are welcome. However, I would like to answer the questions raised by some learned members. Latitude and Longitude of Place of Birth: Acharaya Rajneesh was born in Kuchwara village, Udaipura, Tehsil in District Raisen (Madhya Pradesh). The latitude and longitude have been verified from Kuchwara Mobile Tower using GPRS. These are : Longitude:

78.20.59 E Latitude: 23.08.23 N. K.P (New or Refined) Ayanamsa. : It is claimed that Mr. Krishnamurti follows the rate of precession of Equinoxes as given by Newcomb which is 50.2388475 seconds per year. I, Mr. Khullar and Dr. Srikant Ojha have spent number of hours to solve the riddle of this figure 50.2388475 because Newcomb’s rate of precession as given in his book and accepted by Almanac is 50.2564 as on 1st of January

1900 with formula for further years as 50.2564+0.000222*(year-1900) . Ultimately we have come to the conclusion that the figure 50.2388475 is averaged out taking into considerations all the parameters that cause for precession of equinoxes, including Nutation as linear rate. The Ayanamsa, on the date of birth of Acharaya Rajneesh as shown in the figure given by Mr. Khullar is correct. It has been verified by casting the horoscope using the following softwares: i. Gorvani Jyotish (U.S.A) V.2.26 ii. Horosoft (Professional edition 4.0). Designed by Triple-S Software,NewDelhi. iii. Astroworks designed by Softdata computers systems pvt ltd, ND. iv. T.P Stellar Astrology Software developed by Dr. Srikant Ojha, Ph.D in Engg. Professor Govt. Enng College Jodhpur. Mob 09414127125 The chart cast by Mr. Khullar as per the KP (New) or KP (Refined) option in above softwares for Ayanamsa is correct and he has corrected and analysed chart accordingly. By using any other figure of Ayanamsa, the Sub-Sub will change and accordingly the Rectification of Birth Time will become incorrect and whole analysis will go in vein. Thus we cannot doubt the correctness of the analysis of the chart using any other value of Ayanamsa. 3. How to reconcile “Acharaya had to be disinterested in everything” with the 93 Rolls-Royces- says TW. It was a very interesting observation. I had to talk to Mr. Khullar. This is what he said: “In our sacred book Gita, lord Krishna says, “A yogi is he who feels attachment in detachment, and detachment in attachment.” The word disinterested here is used to explain Acharaya’s detachment in attachment attitude. Literature on Acharaya Rajneesh makes it evidently clear that he was in the world and yet not of the world.” Who is First Inventor: The simple answer is no body. I may like to quote from Introduction of Book on Tables of Houses under the title ‘The case for Sidereal Zodiac’. “In ancient India they used a constellatory Zodiac. The star scientists of that time observed many changes within the thirty-degree zones mapped out by the zodiac and divided it into 27 nakshatra zones (constellation zones not to be confused with the principal fixed stars contained in them), each 13 degree 20 min in extent. They noted resemblances which have been found to manifest between traits of character and potential destinies of individuals born. When certain nakshatras (constellations) and their minutest subdivisions were rising at birth. In ancient India, the consideration of nakshatra and their subdivisions as zones of specific influence was, undisputedly,the most important”. Mr. Krishnamurti has also thrown hints on cuspal significations in his original writings. No body has moral right to claim to be inventor of cuspal Interlinks Theory. Mr. Khullar has made it clear that he has developed his theory based on Nakshatra, Navamsa and Nadiamsa concept but has not anywhere said that he is the inventor of Cuspal Interlinks Theory. His approach, however, is based on fundamental concepts of Stellar Astrology and is different from the approach of Mr. Bhaskaran. For example on page 10 (Para c) in “Principles of Cuspal Links” Book Mr. Bhaskaran says that if Jupiter is in the star or sub of the concerned “fifth cusp sub lord”, it can cause for the birth of a child.

According to Mr. Khullar’s approach, if Jupiter’s star lord appears in 10th cuspal position/Bhava and its sub appears as the sub lord of the 5th cusp, it can cause adverse results in profession or can cause for the sale of property. It can not cause for the birth of the child. Dear members, I leave it to your judgement to value the writings of any Astrologer. Mr Khullar is not a professional Astrologer. But he is working with utmost devotion to provide the missing links in our ancient Astrology. His book “True Horoscope” has beautifully explained the relationship between Astrology and human being. His approach is original and he tries to provide the

missing links, concepts and philosophy used in Astrology in a very rational and scientific way. Before I close I may like to inform Mr TinWin that there is a typing mistake in Example2 in Mr. Khullar’s book page 176. The latitude and Longitude of the place are 72E54 and 23N34. Lot more can be said about

invention of Cuspal Interlinks and controversies of Meena’s but I would like to close here. With regards, Mukesh. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,Please check longitude.LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYALONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYARegards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear lajimi ji,> > If time rectifed by you is correct then7th SL is SUn lord of 7th and No planet in the star of SUN so sun is very strong significatore of 7th then why he was unmarroed?> > second MOON is Asc. SSL but

MOON is not in Ruling planet .> > Please cleryfy my doubt.it will help to understand properly.> > regards> Kanak> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:> Dears TinWinji & Kanak,> Alongwith pl. find the correct Birth Chart of Acharya Rajneeshji,corrected as per K.P.> With kind regards,> L.Y.Rao.> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > In checking half of 12 charts with given birth details in Khullar's > Cuspal Interlinks, it is found that Lahiri is used and the same in > the uploaded Rajneesh's chart as mentioned before. In those 12 > charts no name of POB and ayanamsa used are not given. You will see > the planet positions (except Rahu)are exactly the same up to second > as given by KPAstro if his given ayanamsa is used. It means using of > the same Swiss

Emphemeris but Asc postion differs around 4 min. It > is not a matter of different house system beacuse Asc is the same > for any house system. In his "Basic & Traditional Concepts", page 10-> 11 Khullar explains ayanamsa and says that most tradinalists or > Vedic Astrology followers now use Lahri and KP followers (new) KPA.> > Your adjusted Rajneesh's TOB 17:19:54 may better fit for death > during JUP-SUN-JUP-SAT and imprisonment during JUP-MER-SAT-KET of > cousre as per KP rules. Promise by sublords seems okay for > short/medium life, no marriage, imprisonment & foreign except Moon > is sublord of 3,6,7,11 havig no palnet in its star. > > Regards,> > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win

ji,> > > > Thanks for full details reply.> > > > I dont have Khullarji's book so please giver details of birth > data so i will check.> > about Shri Rajnish ji .i will write you after 3-4 days. in my > opinion time givan is not correct (17:13). i have adjest it as > 05.19.54 PM without help of RP, on base of event.> > > > > > regards> > kanak> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > 1. EDUCATION AND NEW IDEA IN ASTROLOGY> > > > 1.1. Meena, appraised as one of the two legendry figures of 20th > > century in stellar astrology by Baskaran and Khullar, was not > better > > educated than Baskaran, the inventor of cuspal interlinks.> > > > 1.2. Lack of higher education for some reason is not an hindrance > > for Baskaran to

present his new idea by translating his crucial > > books into English.> > > > 1.3. Less educated Baskaran is so nice to highly educated Khullar > > that he used even the word of coauthor, which in fact is not, > > clearly shown by his thanks for Khullar's useful suggestions in > > formatting the book, help by posing more number of doubts and > > suggestion to add more simplicity to the book (Application of > Cuspal > > Interlinks, Part 1, XVI, Part 2, XVI) and no name of Khullar on > the > > cover of the book under author which is a common practice of > > coauthorship. Baskaran's guru is A.R. Balan and they contributed > two > > articles in K.P. & Astrology Year Book 2000, page 88-95, as > > mentioned by Lajmi ji. > > > > 1.4. Better educated N. V. Raghavachary took the same pen name of > >

less educated Meena after 50 years.> > > > 2. MEENA I & II> > > > 2.1. Meena is the pen or nick name of R. Goplakrishna Rao, the > > author of "Nadi Jyotisha or The Stellar System of Astrology", (1st > > Edition of Part I & II by "Meena" on Jan 1, 1945 by Modi Printing > > Press; 2nd Edition of 3 Vols by "R. Gopalakrishna Row", on Jan 1, > > 1951 ; and 3rd Edition in 1954 by Ranjan Publication).> > > > 2.2. About 50 years later Meena is also known as Meena I after N. > V. > > Raghavachary the author of "Practical Stellar Astrology (Based on > > Nadi Principles)", published in 1995, took the pen name Meena II.> > > > 2.3. R.G. Rao, author of "Bhrigu Nandi Nadi", "Bhrigu Sutram Sage > > Bhrigu", "Bhrugu Prashna Nadi" etc. is not Meena or Meena I.> > > > 3. WHO

IS FIRST INVENTOR> > > > 3.1. A claim after 5 years in the case of cuspal interlinks and 50 > > years in stellar astrology.> > > > 3.2. It is amazing that in both cases the basic concepts are > almost > > the same.> > > > 3.3. Penmaraju V.R. Rayudu said that Shri Ratanlal in his book > Nadi > > system of prediction (stellar theory) published in 1983 and late > Sri > > N. V. Raghavachary (Meena II) in his book Practical Stellar > > astrology (based on Nadi principles) published in 1995 almost > > followed the original books by Sri R. Goplakrishna Rao. Even the > > Krishnamurthy Paddhathi is also an extension of what is stated by > > Sri R. Gopalakrishna Rao. (His various articles on Nadi in The > Times > > of Astrology)> > > > 3.4. Regarding Baskaran's points which

differs from KP, mentioned > in > > his Cuspal Interlinks, page 200-203, not much diffent except > Khullar > > takes all kinds of cuspal interlinks in some matters like 2nd > > marriage (Msg#9132, point 5). As a KP follower Baskaran uses the > > cuspal interlinks at sublord level. Kalamsa or Nadiamsa what ever > it > > may be the deviding a costellation into nine parts of sub, sub > sub, > > sub sub sub. in propotion to the ruling periods of the nine > planets > > in Vimshottari dasa is the same sample arithematics. (Msg#3018, > > point 4.g) That is why Dr. Kar said that Hindus knew the divisions > > of Star, sub, sub sub,---. Credit goes to Prof. KSK for using > these > > divisions up to star and sub in Hindu astrology for the first time > > to examine whether cusps and planets are really fruitful. (K.P.

& > > Astrology Year Book 2002, page 107). > > > > 4. DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT MEENA> > > > 4.1. B.V. Raman said that one day in July 1938, Meena unexpectedly > > called on him with the manuscript of Nadi Jyotisha seeking his > help > > for its publication. At that time Raman could not help Meena. In > > order to convince Raman of his Nadi system, Meena explained to > Raman > > the application of constellation in the dasa analysis of Raman's > > chart and the so-called subs, which are, in Raman's opinion, worth > > study and research and found the results fairly satisfactory in > > applying to a number of horoscopes. Later Raman arranged with the > > Modi Printing Press to get Nadi Jyotisha printed. (B.V. Raman: "My > > Experiences in Astrology", Reprint 2001, page 238-9)> > > >

4.2. In 1958 when Guruji K.S.K. met Raman to explain > his "paddhati", > > Raman suggested to give acknowledgement to Meena for mentioning > the > > so-called subs. (B.V. Raman: ibid, page 239)> > > > 4.3. Shiv Chadha, astrologer cum owner of Manorama Occult > > Publications, providing a spiral bound Xerox copy of Nadi Jyotisha > 3 > > Vols comments that the book showed how to used Nakshatras in natal > > chart analysis and became basis for KP.> > > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > > > 4.4. Baskaran said that Meena talked about 243 sub-divisions > whereas > > K.S.K. further fine tuned it to 249 sub-divisions. (Cuspal > > Interlinks, page 200) > > > > 5. DIIFFFERENT EMPHESIS IN NADI LITERATURE> > > > 5.1. In his 3 volumes of

Nadi Jyotisha Meena had given importance > > only to the constellation lords of the planets as Jeeva and > Shareera > > planets.> > > > 5.2. In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by R.G.Rao, the karakatwa > > (signification) of the planets and rasis are given importance and > > Jupiter transits in the houses and over planets will decide events.> > > > 6. SOURCE OF NEW IDEA> > > > 6.1. Meena stated that the method that he had pursued and which he > > had presented in Nadi Jyotisha, is an ancient one. It had hitherto > > been kept confidential without being brought to light. The authors > > of this method had recorded Nadis on palm leaves. What was > possible > > to Sages is equally possible to those who take pains to > investigate > > and understand the science correctly by the method

herein revealed.> > > > 6.2. Satya jatakam: Basic of dhruva nadi by Sage Satyacharya, the > > forerunner of Dhruva nadi, said to have lived about 2000 years > ago, > > is the source of idea regarding constellation and Ruling Planets. > > (The original work "Satyasamhita" consisting of 125 vols and each > > vol having 300 palm leaves, including the test reading of Mahatma > > Gandhi)> > > > 7. CRITICISM OF KP> > > > 7.1. Regarding KP there is no significant criticism or interest in > > Vedic discussion groups, Vedic-astrology and SJC, > , > > SAMVA, lalkitab, astrological timing of events, Astrologia (in > > Polish language) etc. They are doing their way with their own SWs.> > > > 7.2. There is of course no encouragement of KP, for instance in > his

> > study on different ayanamsas Sanjay Rath concludes that the real > > Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. But he > > didn't include KP ayanamsa which is the only one between the > Lahiri > > and Raman Ayanamsa. Despite of some members' request P.V.R. > > Narasimha Rao does not make available KP placidus cusps and star > > lords and sub lords in his Jagannatha Hora which is not a big deal > > for him.> > > > 7.3. Therefore some Vedic members used to do their KP analysis by > > applying only star lord of the planet without placidus cusps and > sub > > lord, like Raman learned it from his grandfather Bangalore S. Rao > > since Jan 1930 (B.V. Raman: "My Experiences in Astrology", page > 86) > > and saying DB lord Jupiter in the constellation of Mercury, a > > powerful maraca, both

by ownership and occupation and hence > Jupiter > > gets the power to kill Tagore. (Raman: Notable Horoscopes, page > 191) > > Sanjay Rath justified that Gulika is in Visakha Nakshatra ruled by > > Jupiter and hence Jupiter shall give the results of Gulika in its > > initial period and this resulted in death. > > > > (http://srath.com/lectures/vimsottari02.htm)> > > > 7.4. Criticism is noticed in the groups or papers under the KP > name.> > > > 7.5. In the recently posted analysis of Acharya Rajneesh's chart > > with a different POB from reliable sources, the K.P. (New) > Ayanamsa > > 22:53:43 is not a real New KPA which should be 22:49:01 but just > > closed to "Larhiri" 22:54:24 of KPAstro 2.5 or Jagannatha Hora. By > >

taking given ayanamsa of 22:53:43 KPAstro 2.5 gives the same Moon > > position but a different Asc Ge 00:10:45 with compared to posted > Ge > > 00:06:40 and Rahu position is of course different by taking True > > with different interpretation neglecting aspects. For a given > > example 2 of Leukaemia in Khullar's Cuspal Interlinks, page 176, > > KPAstro 2.5 (Lahiri) gives Asc Vi 22:51:20 against AscSc 26:23:13 > in > > the book and but Moon position is the same. I hope you may help me > > to check the above discrepancies and explain how come death of > heart > > failure is unnatural or suicide death and how to > reconcile "Acharaya > > had to be disinterested in everything" with the 93 Rolls-Royces > > below. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh> > > > Comments by his public spokeswoman, Ma Anand Sheela, only > increased > > tensions. Matters were not helped by Rajneesh's vow of silence, or > > the 93 Rolls-Royces his followers bought him as gifts - they said > > that he wanted 365 cars so that he had a new one for each day of > the > > year (technically, he did not have income or own any property). > One > > of his followers explains this in what is called "Face to Faith > > Parable of the Rolls Royces." When the Rajneeshees subsequently > > recruited homeless people from across the United States to settle > at > > Rajneeshpuram, it was widely seen as an attempt to use the ballot > > box to seize control of Wasco County.> > > > Thanks and

regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mukesh ji,> > > > > > YES BOSS , YOU ARE RIGHT.> > > > > > thanks for information.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak Ji,> > > Regards,> > > > > > I have never said that Mr. Khullar has invented the Cuspal > > Interlinks theory. I had only written that "He has done research > on > > Cuspal Inter links." I also don't say that an uneducated or less > > educated per may not practice astrology or become a good > astrologer. > >

I personally respect you a lot. But there is certainly a great > > importance of worldly learning particularly language math and > > science. You can not compare Kabir and Shankaracharya, though both > > are renowned saints. Kabir is a great saint but not a teacher, > while > > Shankaracharya is not only a great saint but a great teacher and > > founder of many religious, spiritual movements in India. Similarly > > Raidas and Rajneesh also can not be compared. Being formally > > educated makes lots of difference in every walk of life.> > > > > > I Know Mr. Khullar for last 20 years being in the same > > department, we have always found him kind and generous. Probably > he > > might have been hurt by the incorrect language in your question. > You > > must have seen the first book of Mr. Bhaskaran where he has not >

only > > expressed gratitude to Mr. Khullar for helping in evolving the > > concept of Cuspal Interlinks and writing the book. You may also > see > > the second book of Mr. Bhaskaran (application of Cuspal Interlinks > > Part II) where at page 281 Mr. Bhaskaran has declared that Mr. S. > P. > > Khullar I.T.S. is the co-author and the driving force behind the > > book.> > > > > > Mr. Bhaskaran's theory of cuspal interlinks theory is based on > > the inter linkages at Sub lord level where as if you have gone > > through the books Mr. Khullar you may realize that the concept of > > cuspal Interlinks developed and used by Mr. Khullar is based on > > Nadiamsa theory, where he uses the Sub-Sub lord level. He has > > explained in his second book "Kalamsa and Cuspal Interlinks" that > > why we should use the

Sub-Sub lords in astrology. > > > > > > All said and done let us not involve ourselves in such kind of > > unfruitful and personal discussions. Since we all are learners we > > should try to take advantage of every bit of knowledge from who so > > ever it is coming regardless of our personal interaction.> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > For all members who want to know about Meena no1 and Meena > > no:2.please read carfuly bellow mwntion artical:> > > > > > I have a book name: PRACTICAL STELLAR ASTROLOGY By: N.V.RAGHAVA > > CHARY(MEENA-II),Published by : Universal Research Institute of > astro > > and occult

siences(Regd.)-Vibeknagar,Haydrabad.> > > In this bookon page no-iii Author him self write as under:-> > > PREFACE **> > > At the outset i widh to state that i am not an astrologer by > > profession.I had a keen intrest in the should learn astrology to > an > > extent of prfection.I was born in 1913 in a village near > > madras.During the year 1933 to 1935 when i was a college student > > studing in B.A.class visiting Tumkur(in mysore state then) where > my > > father was working in the railway,i had a good fortune to come in > > close contect with an elder gentleman by name sri.Bhaskara Sastriar> > (A pious,retired school teacher).he gave me a glimpse of satya > > chariam.He also stressed the importance of the constellation in > > pridictions,and some basic concept of stellar astrology.> > > As

my father was in railway service i was also forced to enter > the > > same service.i joint the service in 1936 at bangalore city> > (M.S.M.Rlys)Late sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was employed as a > signaller > > at Bangalore city,adjacent to my office.Due to our comman intrest > in > > the subject of astrology we frequently met and discussuons ensued > on > > verious system of astrology.> > > Befor Sri.R.Gopalakrishna Row was transfer to bangalor he was > > working as a telegraphist at madras central station and he had > > fortune and good luck of meeting late sri.Srinivasa rao(whose son > > was an advocate, at madras.)who introduced him to the stellar > > astrology and taught him the art of interpretation of some tamil > > verses and proverbs relating to astrology.> > > Sri R.Gopalakrishana Row(Popularly know

as R.G.) expressed his > > intention of publishing a book on the stellar system of astrology > in > > english and put the ideas and principles in tamil and i was asked > to > > render them in english after discussions. thus matter devloped > into > > a book from publication.> > > While we were at banglore we used to visit the residence of > > Sri.Gurumurthy(Retired Enginer)where noted scholars abd sri.Budha > > Nadi Srinivasa char gathered occasionally and discussed > astrology.so > > i had opportunities to come in touch with some veterans in the > field > > of astrology.sri.budha nadi srinivasa char was a hard nut to crack > > and never gave out the principles or the art unterpretation of the > > cgarts openly and clearly.> > > here it will be relevent to place that sri.R.G.was born

in > > VRISCHIKA LAGNAwith hisCHANDRA(MOON)in Uthirabhadrapada> > (uthirattathi).CHANDRA the lord of 9 was place in MEENA Rasi.Iwas > > born in MESHA LAGNA with mY CHANDRA (MOON) in Pusyami. Ferther my > > RaVI(SUN)(lord of 5th)in the Uthirabhadrapada(MEENA Rasi).MEENA > Rasi > > is symbolised by pair of fish.Ferther Sun and moon were liminaries > > and they were in trine.Kuja is the lord of Mesha and Vrischika.As > > both of us wre in service the book could not be brought out in our > > name hence the authership was mentioned as MEENA. Sri R.G. was > > neither in possession of any Nady nor was a Nadi Reader.> > > In 1948 i left of my higher studies to the then bombay > presidency > > as i was dissatisfied with the railway service and afterword i > come > > away to my native place to start

practice of low after taking law > > degree.in the meanwhile Sri.R.G.had to retire from service and > > settled in madras with high hopes and aspirations to earn a > > comfortable living by taking up the profession of astrology.but > his > > hopes were only dupes.he was not able to get on well in the life > and > > had own difficulties in the family too.> > > Sri.R.G. got in touch with me as he knew that i had a desir to > > stay at my native place and practice law.he requested me to give > him > > part of the manuscripts of part III which were with me,which i did > > readly.After handing over the paper o learnt that subsequent > > editions of part 1 and 2 have been published in his name even > > without expressing any greatfulness or gratitude to me even in the > > peface if the book.Iwas shoked and pertubed when i

thought of the > > time and labour spent in getting up the books and its publication. > > possibly the world is such.> > > Dejkection set in me and i was not paying him visits unless i > was > > called for him to bridge the diffences in his family in which i > did > > not succeed completly.He was comtemplating to publish subsequent > > revised edition of the published books for which i did not > cooprate > > and later slowly and gradually i ceased to visit him and discuss > > about the subject,He passed away at madras about 35 years ago.> > > In the published book(part 1 to 3)there were short coming and > > mistakes.the chart given atre not complete and the predictions > > arrived at on the decision of a singal point alone,which is not > > proper.Everyaspect has to be viewed and assesses from various > >

angles.After several years,close friends and my brother persuded > me > > to give out to the astrological world the knowldge acquired by me > in > > the field of steller theory.my self and an advocate friend of mine > > visited several nadi centre of south some years ago.Impression > that > > i gained was that old puranas and epic were pressed in to service.> > > My friend sri.Navaratan mall M.A.B.L.of truvallure was > instumental > > in bringing me into contact with some astrologer from my > seclusion.i > > also owe my gratitude to my brother Sri.N.V.Saranga for offering > me > > suggestions and having gone through the manuscripts.> > > I hope and sencerely trust that this book will benefit the > readers > > in predictions and interpretation of the horoscope to a large > extent > > of

accuracy and precision.> > > I request the readers to pray to their personal deity befor > > venturing predicitions and scanning of the charts.> > > Date:13-12-1994 N.V.RAGHVA > > CHARY> > > AUTHOR> > > **> > > The author had abruptly passed away on 14-12-1994 and the above > > prefece in its incomplete from was handed over to his son Sri.Raja > > on 13-12-1994 night mentioning that he would complete the same the > > next day but could not do so and hence has been brought out in its > > original form.> > > Point from Kanak:> > > 1)Please not that this is the dying declaration of auther.> > > 2)he is clearly mention that MEENA was not origanly found of > > staller astrology but he learn from Sri.Srinivasa Rao.> > > 3)He is not sucessfull asrologer.so we have to guss about

> MEENA's > > given rules are how ifective?> > > 4) i learn primery KP with Publisher of this book Shri > > Purneshwar Rao.when he come Ahmedabad, and i have high respect for > > Shri Purneshwar Rao, if any member know Shri Purneshwar Rao please > > pass by Pranam to him.> > > > > > I read book of MEENA no;2 but not match by any angel with KP > > rules only one point planet give result of its starlord. and this > is > > not founding of any one but we got from our Saga.> > > > > > I hope i have clear many side of KSK and his System.Now a day it > > is fashion in Vedic astrology word to criticize KP followers.> > > > > > Regards> > > Kanak> > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > >

> > > I agree with you because:> > > > > > a) R. Gopalakrishna Rao (Meena) was a signaller in the Railways > > > drawing about Rs. 80 per month when he finished his book "Nadi > > > Jyotisha" in 1938 and first publised in 2 vols by the Modi > > printing, > > > later published in 3 vols in 1954. (Perhaps Meena was less > > educated > > > than Basakaran.)> > > > > > b) Basakaran's CUSPAL INTERLINKS (in English tarnslation) was > > > published in 2000 (in Tamil may be earlier) and APPLICATIONS OF > > > CUSPAL INTERLINKS in 2002. Khullar's CUSPAL INTERLINKS was > > published > > > in 2004 and different views from KP are generally the same as in > > > Basakaran's book; even two legendary figures of the 20th century > > > named R. Gopalakrishna Rao

(Meena) and K.S. Krishnamoorrthy are > > the > > > same in Basakaran's legendary personalities, KSK first and Meena > > > second. > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > P.S. My sincere thanks to very reliable Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > <astroclinic4u@>, http://www.astroclinica.com for > > > the supply of Khullar's books.> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear mukesh ji,> > > > > > > > As per my knowladge this cuspalinterlink theory first > introduce > > > by K.Baskaran, Not by Shri Khullar,> > > >

> > > > I ask him about this question and he got very engry on > telephone > > > and ask a question to me: Baskaran is passed only 10th and i am > MD > > > in telecom, how can you say this theory is devolop by an > > > uneducational person.?> > > > > > > > I donot understand what is the link btwn 10th pass and MD in > > > telecom and astrology.I know many astrologer who are not got > > sucess > > > in study but in astrology they got number one. I am also pass > only > > > up to 12th due to some family problem.I never agree with him > that > > > only highly educational person got sucess in astrology.> > > > > > > > He tolk with me in very rude tone, and as per my neture i say > > > YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT and end call.> > > > >

> > > i think any knowladgeble person never talk as he tolk with me, > > > even today i dont understand what is wrong in my question.> > > > > > > > any way as you mention in mail that his fourth book is ready > to > > > publish means you are near to him.so now again i expect one more > > > rude tolk with him!!!!!> > > > > > > > best wishes> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > mg13jan <mg13jan@> wrote:> > > > Dear all Readers,> > > > > > > > Shri SP Khullar is a renound astrologer and has done research > > > > on Cuspal Interlinks. He has already Published 3 Books. His > > Fourth > > > > Book is now ready for release on "Horary and Cuspal > Interlinks". > > > in > > > >

this book he has discussed the birthchart of Acharya Rajneesh. > > The > > > > same is being uploaded to file section.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Mukesh Gupta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > >

> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > > call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > Answers > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.> > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> >> > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N A> L.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028> > TEL: 2446 7314> email: lyastro1 > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> > > REF NO AR/bc> > DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART > > DATE : 11 12 1931

OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION> > DAY : FRIDAY RASI : DHANU> > TIME : 17 H. 15 M. 0 S. STAR : P.Ash> > PLACE : KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT; > CHARANA : THIRD> > COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA> > YONI : WANARA> > LAT. : 23 Deg. 0 Min. N GANA : MANUSHYA> > LONG. : 7 Deg. 0 Min. 0 VARNA : KHSTRIYA> > LAGNA. : Aquarius-Kumba TATWA : AGNI> > LORD : Sat VASHYA : MANAVA> > RASI : Sagitarius-Dhanus> > LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS]> > NAKSHATRA : P.Ash 3 - Pada MONTH : SHRAVANA> > NAK.LORD : Ven TITHI : 3-8-13> > TITHI : 3 DAY : SHUKRAVAR> > SID.TIME : 17 H. 29 M. 55 S. STAR : BHARANI> > AYANAMSA : 22 D. 53 M. 12 S.> PRAHARA : 1st> > SUN SIGN : SAGTARIUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 4th> > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> >

Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > > > > > > BIRTH DETAILS OF Acharya Rajneeshji> TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE > > NAKSHATRA: P.Ash PADA - 3 > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> > |-------------------------|> |RAHU +URA FOR. | | |+PLU |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> |ASC....... | |+JUP |> | | | |> | | | |> |---------------| |---------------|> | | |+NEP |> | | | |> | | | |> |-------------------------|> |MOON MARS MERC |SUN. | |KETU |> |VEN. SAT. | | | |> | | | | |>

|-------------------------|> > > > TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART> > |-------------------------|> |+JUP KETU | | |ASC.......MARS |> | | | |+PLU |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> |SUN. FOR. | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |---------------| |---------------|> |+URA | |MERC +NEP |> | | | |> | | | |> |-------------------------|> |SAT. | |MOON |VEN. RAHU |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-------------------------|> > Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 07-08-2006> > > > > >

> > > VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES > > Ven DASA 22 05 1918 -> 22 05 1938 |Sun DASA 22 05 1938 -> 22 05 1944> |Sun Bhk. 22 05 1938 -> 10 09 1938> |Moo Bhk. 10 09 1938 -> 10 03 1939> |Mar Bhk. 10 03 1939 -> 16 07 1939> |Rah Bhk. 16 07 1939 -> 10 06 1940> |Jup Bhk. 10 06 1940 -> 28 03 1941> |Sat Bhk. 28 03 1941 -> 10 03 1942> Sat Bhk. 11 12 1931 -> 22 05 1934 |Mer Bhk. 10 03 1942 -> 16 01 1943> Mer Bhk. 22 05 1934 -> 22 03 1937 |Ket Bhk. 16 01 1943 -> 22 05 1943> Ket Bhk. 22 03 1937 -> 22 05 1938 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1943 -> 22 05 1944> > Moo DASA 22 05 1944 -> 22 05 1954 |Mar DASA 22 05 1954 -> 22 05 1961> Moo Bhk. 22 05 1944 -> 22 03 1945 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1954 -> 19 10 1954> Mar Bhk. 22 03 1945 -> 22 10 1945 |Rah Bhk. 19 10 1954 -> 07 11 1955> Rah Bhk. 22 10

1945 -> 22 04 1947 |Jup Bhk. 07 11 1955 -> 13 10 1956> Jup Bhk. 22 04 1947 -> 22 08 1948 |Sat Bhk. 13 10 1956 -> 22 11 1957> Sat Bhk. 22 08 1948 -> 22 03 1950 |Mer Bhk. 22 11 1957 -> 19 11 1958> Mer Bhk. 22 03 1950 -> 22 08 1951 |Ket Bhk. 19 11 1958 -> 16 04 1959> Ket Bhk. 22 08 1951 -> 22 03 1952 |Ven Bhk. 16 04 1959 -> 16 06 1960> Ven Bhk. 22 03 1952 -> 22 11 1953 |Sun Bhk. 16 06 1960 -> 22 10 1960> Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 05 1954 |Moo Bhk. 22 10 1960 -> 22 05 1961> > Rah DASA 22 05 1961 -> 22 05 1979 |Jup DASA 22 05 1979 -> 22 05 1995> Rah Bhk. 22 05 1961 -> 04 02 1964 |Jup Bhk. 22 05 1979 -> 10 07 1981> Jup Bhk. 04 02 1964 -> 28 06 1966 |Sat Bhk. 10 07 1981 -> 22 01 1984> Sat Bhk. 28 06 1966 -> 04 05 1969 |Mer Bhk. 22 01 1984 -> 28 04 1986> Mer Bhk. 04 05 1969 -> 22 11 1971

|Ket Bhk. 28 04 1986 -> 04 04 1987> Ket Bhk. 22 11 1971 -> 10 12 1972 |Ven Bhk. 04 04 1987 -> 04 12 1989> Ven Bhk. 10 12 1972 -> 10 12 1975 |Sun Bhk. 04 12 1989 -> 22 09 1990> Sun Bhk. 10 12 1975 -> 04 11 1976 |Moo Bhk. 22 09 1990 -> 22 01 1992> Moo Bhk. 04 11 1976 -> 04 05 1978 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1992 -> 28 12 1992> Mar Bhk. 04 05 1978 -> 22 05 1979 |Rah Bhk. 28 12 1992 -> 22 05 1995> > Sat DASA 22 05 1995 -> 22 05 2014 |Mer DASA 22 05 2014 -> 22 05 2031> Sat Bhk. 22 05 1995 -> 25 05 1998 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 2014 -> 19 10 2016> Mer Bhk. 25 05 1998 -> 04 02 2001 |Ket Bhk. 19 10 2016 -> 16 10 2017> Ket Bhk. 04 02 2001 -> 13 03 2002 |Ven Bhk. 16 10 2017 -> 16 08 2020> Ven Bhk. 13 03 2002 -> 13 05 2005 |Sun Bhk. 16 08 2020 -> 22 06 2021> Sun Bhk. 13 05 2005 -> 25 04 2006 |Moo Bhk. 22 06 2021

-> 22 11 2022> Moo Bhk. 25 04 2006 -> 25 11 2007 |Mar Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 19 11 2023> Mar Bhk. 25 11 2007 -> 04 01 2009 |Rah Bhk. 19 11 2023 -> 07 06 2026> Rah Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 10 11 2011 |Jup Bhk. 07 06 2026 -> 13 09 2028> Jup Bhk. 10 11 2011 -> 22 05 2014 |Sat Bhk. 13 09 2028 -> 22 05 2031> > Ket DASA 22 05 2031 -> 22 05 2038 |> Ket Bhk. 22 05 2031 -> 19 10 2031 |> Ven Bhk. 19 10 2031 -> 19 12 2032 |> Sun Bhk. 19 12 2032 -> 25 04 2033 |> Moo Bhk. 25 04 2033 -> 25 11 2033 |> Mar Bhk. 25 11 2033 -> 22 04 2034 |> Rah Bhk. 22 04 2034 -> 10 05 2035 |> Jup Bhk. 10 05 2035 -> 16 04 2036 |> Sat Bhk. 16 04 2036 -> 25 05 2037 |> Mer Bhk. 25 05 2037 -> 22 05 2038 |> > > > > > > > > > > W E S T E R N A S P E C T S>

> Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT > > SUN. TRIN TRIN > MOON CONJ CONJ SQUR SQUR OPP > MARS SQUR > MERC CONJ CONJ SQUR > JUP. 150 > VEN. SQUR SQUR > SAT. SQUR SQUR OPP > RAHU OPP > KETU > URAN CONJ SQUR > NEPT > FOR. SQUR > PLUT > > > > Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th> > SUN. SQUR OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL > MOON SXTL OPP CONJ Ssxt > MARS TRIN OPP CONJ Ssqr > MERC > JUP. TRIN SQUR SXTL CONJ OPP > VEN. 135 OPP CONJ > SAT. SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 OPP CONJ > RAHU > KETU > URAN SQUR SXTL > NEPT > FOR. SXTL SQUR TRIN > PLUT TRIN SQUR SXTL Ssxt CONJ OPP > > > > ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg.> > Programme by RAICHUR 8/147

GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77> > -------------------------> | | | | |> | | | | |> |For 23 52 42| | | |> |Uran-R 22 38 2| | |IV 0 12 25|> |Rahu 8 29 3|II 4 34 4|III 4 44 46|V 24 47 58|> | | | |Plut-R 28 42 31|> | | | | |> -------------------------> | | NAME:Acharya Rajneeshji | |> | | FRIDAY 11 12 1931 | |> | | Time 17 15 0 | |> |Asc. 27 6 28| | |> | | SID.TIME 17 h. 29 m. 55 s. |VI 22 25 33|> | | |Jup -R 29 44 30|> | | NAKS:P.Ash-PADA 3 | |> | | | |> :---------------| PLACE:KUTCHWADA-GUJARAT IN |---------------|> | | | |> | | LAT 23 deg 0 min N | |> | | | |> |XII 22 25 33| Long 7 deg 0 min 0 | |> | | |Nept-R 15 6 28|> | | Ayan 22 d. 53 m. 12 s. |VII 27 6 28|> | |

| |> | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | |> -------------------------> | | | | |> |Sat 28 35 2| | | |> |X1 24 47 58|Sun 25 35 45| | |> |Moon 22 21 58|IX 4 44 46|VIII 4 34 4| |> |Ven 19 17 9| | |Ketu 8 29 3|> |Merc 13 29 15| | | |> |Mars 8 8 59| | | |> |X 0 12 25| | | |> -------------------------> > DASA BAL. Ven. 6 Y. 164 Days ENDS ON 24 5 1938> BHK. Bal. Sat. 2 Y. 164 Days: ANT. Bal. Merc 85 Days: > SOOK Bal. Moon 3 Days> > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS> ASC Sat Jup Ven Moo :SUN. Mar Mer Rah Ven ASC STL :Jup> 2nd Mar Ket Moo Ven :MOON Jup Ven Sat Mer ASC SGL :Sat> 3rd Ven Sun Sat Rah :MARS Jup Ket Jup Mer MOON STL:Ven> 4th Mer Mar Mer Mer :MERC Jup Ven Ven Ven MOON SGL:Jup> 5th Mer

Jup Mer Moo :JUP.-R Moo Mer Sat Jup DAY LORD :VEN.> 6th Moo Mer Moo Rah :VEN. Jup Ven Rah Ket > 7th Sun Sun Sun Mer :SAT. Jup Sun Mar Rah > 8th Ven Mar Ven Mer :RAHU Jup Sat Ven Sun > 9th Mar Sat Sat Mar :KETU Mer Sun Ven Mar > 10th Jup Ket Ket Sun :URAN-R Jup Mer Moo Jup > 11th Jup Ven Mer Moo :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Sat > 12th Sat Moo Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Mer Mar Ven > :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Ket > > > > > > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES> > SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE> A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House> C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets > Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord > Check Lords of planets near cusps !> > HOUSE A B C D E F>

----------------------------> ASC | |RAH:URA:FOR: |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> | | | | |KE: |> 2nd | | | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Moo> | | | | |SA:RA: |> 3rd | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Sat> | | |NEP: | |VE: |> 4th | | |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> 5th | |PLU: |SUN:JUP:URA|Mer|MO:MA:VE:SA|Mer> | | |FOR: | |SU:RA: |> 6th |PLU: |JUP:NEP: | |Moo|MA:ME:VE:SA|Moo> | | | | |SU:RA: |> 7th |MAR: |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MO:MA:ME:VE|Sun> | | | | |KE:RA:JU:SA|> 8th | | |MOO:MER:VEN|Ven|MO:MA:ME:SA|Ven> | | |NEP: | |VE: |> 9th |SAT:KET: |SUN: | |Mar|MO:ME:JU:VE|Sat> | | | | |SA:RA:MA:KE|> 10th |SUN:JUP:URA:FOR|MAR:MER:VEN: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MO:ME|Ket> |MOO:MER:VEN:NEP| | |

|JU:VE:SA:MA|> 11th |RAH: |MOO:SAT: |PLU: |Jup|SU:RA:MA:ME|Mer> | | | | |VE:SA:MO:KE|> 12th | | |RAH: |Sat|MO:MA:ME:VE|Ven> | | | | |KE: |> ----------------------------> > PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets> > SUN. A-10,B-09,C-04,C-05,D-07, :JU:F- 7,> MOON A-10,B-11,C-03,C-08,D-06, :MA:ME:VE:SA:F- 2, 6,> MARS A-07,B-10,D-02,D-09, :MO:ME:VE:SA:F-> MERC A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-04,D-05,:MO:MA:VE:SA:F- 4, 5,11,> JUP. A-10,B-06,C-04,C-05,D-10,D-11,:MA:F-> VEN. A-10,B-10,C-03,C-08,D-03,D-08,:MO:MA:ME:SA:F- 1, 8,12,> SAT. A-09,B-11,C-07,D-As,D-12, :MO:MA:ME:VE:F- 3, 9,> RAHU A-11,B-As,C-As,C-12, :MA:JU:KE:F-> KETU A-09,B-07,C-07, :SA:RA:F-10,> URAN

A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> NEPT A-10,B-06,C-03,C-08, :F-> FOR. A-10,B-As,C-04,C-05, :MA:JU:RA:KE:F-> PLUT A-06,B-05,C-10,C-11, :MO:MA:ME:VE:SA:F-> > RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also > KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also > Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned > Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK > These are : > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.>

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