Benefic Planets---Query

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Dear Group members,I have been reading all your mail for a long

time, while I have been learning from KSK's book about KP astrology. As

I understand the KP system now, the question of benefic planets is

defined by the sub of the planet; i.e., those planets falling in the

sub representing 1,2,3,6,10 & 11 are benefic.Others are not

benefic.The determination of benefic planet is restricted to, in which

house the sub is deposited to give it beneficial effects or otherwise.

Say for Meena Lagna person, if Jupiter is seated in a star lord and in

a sub of say Mars occupying 3rd house ( Rishabha ), then Jupiter is

benefic. If it is in a star lord and the sub occupying the 8th house

and representing houses 2 and 8, then the person can experience losses

due to 2nd house ( family) and also his business partner can get loans

etc( 8th house effect). If the sub is not represented by 1,2,3,6,10, or

11 then the houses represnted by the sub will get importance by

ownership in determining its bad effects. Just because the sub owns

good houses, it does not mean the planet gets any benefic effects; what

matters is where the sub is posited.The bad or good effects of a planet

can be seen only during the joint periods of the Dasa, Bhukthi and

Anthra Lords. Here, again the significators of the houses shall come

into play. This also proves the theorem that the Dasha lord has to be

benefic to give long lasting good effects.If the Bukhthi and anthra

lords are benefic and the Dasha lord is malefic, the former cannot make

big difference in a person's life. All elderly KP astrologers please

correct me if this understanding is correct.Ramachandran

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Dear Padma Ramachandran The principle of KP is that a planet, during its dasa/bhukty/antatra gives the reults of the Star Lord of that planet, i.e the House it occupies and the Houses it owns. The Sub lord by its postion, will show wether the results are favorable or un favorable. The position of the sub lord is fixed. Its position if 1,2,3,6,9,10,11 is favorable for the house concerned. Each house result has to be evaluated. Thus the benfic effects will depend on what house we are concerned. So it can be that one effect is beneficial other may be unfavorable. You lose your father -- a loss| You gain by inheriting his property. Gain Same incidence |Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote: Dear Group members,I have been reading all your mail for a long time, while I have been learning from KSK's book about KP astrology. As I understand the KP system now, the question of benefic planets is defined by the sub of the planet; i.e., those planets falling in the sub representing 1,2,3,6,10 & 11 are benefic.Others are not benefic.The determination of benefic planet is restricted to, in which house the sub is deposited to give it beneficial effects or otherwise. Say for Meena Lagna person, if Jupiter is seated in a star lord and in a sub of say Mars occupying 3rd house ( Rishabha ), then Jupiter is benefic. If it is in a star lord and the sub

occupying the 8th house and representing houses 2 and 8, then the person can experience losses due to 2nd house ( family) and also his business partner can get loans etc( 8th house effect). If the sub is not represented by 1,2,3,6,10, or 11 then the houses represnted by the sub will get importance by ownership in determining its bad effects. Justbecause the sub owns good houses, it does not mean the planet gets any benefic effects; what matters is where the sub is posited.The bad or good effects of a planet can be seen only during the joint periods of the Dasa, Bhukthi and Anthra Lords. Here, again the significators of the houses shall come into play. This also proves the theorem that the Dasha lord has to be benefic to give long lasting good effects.If the Bukhthi and anthra lords are benefic and the Dasha lord is malefic, the former cannot make big difference in a person's life. All elderly KP astrologers please correct me if this understanding is

correct.Ramachandran

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Dear Shri Raichurji,

 

Namaste,

I suppose the last line of Your mail will take effect when the

8th house is activated by some Dasha running in start Lord of

8th, and connection to The Sun as karaka for father ?

 

Please correct me if wrong. Just trying to learn.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Padma Ramachandran

> The principle of KP is that a planet, during its

dasa/bhukty/antatra gives the reults of the Star Lord of that planet,

i.e the House it occupies and the Houses it owns.

>

> The Sub lord by its postion, will show wether the results are

favorable or un favorable. The position of the sub lord is fixed.

Its position if 1,2,3,6,9,10,11 is favorable for the house concerned.

Each house result has to be evaluated. Thus the benfic effects will

depend on what house we are concerned. So it can be that one effect

is beneficial other may be unfavorable.

>

> You lose your father -- a loss| You gain by inheriting his

property. Gain Same incidence |

>

> Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote:

> Dear Group members,

>

> I have been reading all your mail for a long time, while I have

been learning from KSK's book about KP astrology. As I understand the

KP system now, the question of benefic planets is defined by the sub

of the planet; i.e., those planets falling in the sub representing

1,2,3,6,10 & 11 are benefic.Others are not benefic.The determination

of benefic planet is restricted to, in which house the sub is

deposited to give it beneficial effects or otherwise. Say for Meena

Lagna person, if Jupiter is seated in a star lord and in a sub of say

Mars occupying 3rd house ( Rishabha ), then Jupiter is benefic. If it

is in a star lord and the sub occupying the 8th house and

representing houses 2 and 8, then the person can experience losses

due to 2nd house ( family) and also his business partner can get

loans etc( 8th house effect). If the sub is not represented by

1,2,3,6,10, or 11 then the houses represnted by the sub will get

importance by ownership in determining its bad effects. Just

> because the sub owns good houses, it does not mean the planet gets

any benefic effects; what matters is where the sub is posited.The bad

or good effects of a planet can be seen only during the joint periods

of the Dasa, Bhukthi and Anthra Lords. Here, again the significators

of the houses shall come into play. This also proves the theorem that

the Dasha lord has to be benefic to give long lasting good

effects.If the Bukhthi and anthra lords are benefic and the Dasha

lord is malefic, the former cannot make big difference in a person's

life. All elderly KP astrologers please correct me if this

understanding is correct.

>

> Ramachandran

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>

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>

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Dear Raichurji,There is always a confusion between a Planet and a House, in my mind, especially when it comes to significators. This is because the significators of any Palnet are the ownership and deposited house of its starlord while the significators of the houses are obtained from the Constellation in which the depoisted planet in a house is situated, plantes in the house etc.which gives aus 45 levels of significators. When I wrote about a benefic planet, I quoted Guruji KSK saying look into the Sub space of the Plent. If it signifies by position, 1-2-3-6-10 or 11, it is benefic. Now in your reply, you have added one more dimension. This I read as, if these favourable planets also signify by position and ownership,same houses, then those houses are also benefic. Or from house concerned, say 2nd house, the houses 3,4,5,8, 12 and 1 are benefic? Have I understood you properly Sir.?

Ramachandran.On 8/8/06, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Padma Ramachandran The principle of KP is that a planet, during its dasa/bhukty/antatra gives the reults of the Star Lord of that planet, i.e the House it occupies and the Houses it owns.

The Sub lord by its postion, will show wether the results are favorable or un favorable. The position of the sub lord is fixed. Its position if 1,2,3,6,9,10,11 is favorable for the house concerned. Each house result has to be evaluated. Thus the benfic effects will depend on what house we are concerned. So it can be that one effect is beneficial other may be unfavorable. You lose your father -- a loss| You gain by inheriting his property. Gain Same incidence |Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran

@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Group members,I have been reading all your mail for a long time, while I have been learning from KSK's book about KP astrology. As I understand the KP system now, the question of benefic planets is defined by the sub of the planet; i.e., those planets falling in the sub representing 1,2,3,6,10 & 11 are benefic.Others are not benefic.The determination of benefic planet is restricted to, in which house the sub is deposited to give it beneficial effects or otherwise. Say for Meena Lagna person, if Jupiter is seated in a star lord and in a sub of say Mars occupying 3rd house ( Rishabha ), then Jupiter is benefic. If it is in a star lord and the sub

occupying the 8th house and representing houses 2 and 8, then the person can experience losses due to 2nd house ( family) and also his business partner can get loans etc( 8th house effect). If the sub is not represented by 1,2,3,6,10, or 11 then the houses represnted by the sub will get importance by ownership in determining its bad effects. Just

because the sub owns good houses, it does not mean the planet gets any benefic effects; what matters is where the sub is posited.The bad or good effects of a planet can be seen only during the joint periods of the Dasa, Bhukthi and Anthra Lords. Here, again the significators of the houses shall come into play. This also proves the theorem that the Dasha lord has to be benefic to give long lasting good effects.If the Bukhthi and anthra lords are benefic and the Dasha lord is malefic, the former cannot make big difference in a person's life. All elderly KP astrologers please correct me if this understanding is

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Dear Bhaskar I gave the example of fathers death, only to show that a particular event can be adverse or beneficial . Father is 9th house. His death is indicated by the Badhaka and Maraka Houses, found from the Rasi of the 9th house. Suppose 9th house Sign is Aries, a movable sign. Then the houses to be considered are Badhaka,11th from 9th i.e. 7th. Maraksa 7th and 2nd from 9th i.e. 3rd and 10th. Now consider the Badhaka i.e 7th. Suppose the sublord of this house is Sat. Then find what houses it signifies (house of residence, and houses it owns). What is the Star Lord. What houses does it signify ? say 9,7. Now what is the sub of this Saturn ? Say jup. Where is placed. Suppose it is placed in 5th. Now with respect to 9th house, it is 9th, an unfavorable result. So the result is unfavorable with respect to 9th it is not favourable. The same sub is placed 11th to 7th, so favourable

to the 7th house. So in this case the postion is favorable to Badhaka So if one is questioning about death, it indicates death. You have to treat each case in similar way good luck bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Shri Raichurji,Namaste,I suppose the last line of Your mail will take effect when the8th house is activated by some Dasha running in start Lord of 8th, and connection to The Sun as

karaka for father ?Please correct me if wrong. Just trying to learn.regards,Bhaskar. , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Padma Ramachandran> The principle of KP is that a planet, during its dasa/bhukty/antatra gives the reults of the Star Lord of that planet, i.e the House it occupies and the Houses it owns.> > The Sub lord by its postion, will show wether the results are favorable or un favorable. The position of the sub lord is fixed. Its position if 1,2,3,6,9,10,11 is favorable for the house concerned. Each house result has to be evaluated. Thus the benfic effects will depend on what house we are concerned. So it can be that one effect is beneficial other may be unfavorable. > > You lose your father -- a loss| You gain by inheriting his property.

Gain Same incidence |> > Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote:> Dear Group members,> > I have been reading all your mail for a long time, while I have been learning from KSK's book about KP astrology. As I understand the KP system now, the question of benefic planets is defined by the sub of the planet; i.e., those planets falling in the sub representing 1,2,3,6,10 & 11 are benefic.Others are not benefic.The determination of benefic planet is restricted to, in which house the sub is deposited to give it beneficial effects or otherwise. Say for Meena Lagna person, if Jupiter is seated in a star lord and in a sub of say Mars occupying 3rd house ( Rishabha ), then Jupiter is benefic. If it is in a star lord and the sub occupying the 8th house and representing houses 2 and 8, then the person can experience losses due to 2nd house ( family) and also his business partner

can get loans etc( 8th house effect). If the sub is not represented by 1,2,3,6,10, or 11 then the houses represnted by the sub will get importance by ownership in determining its bad effects. Just> because the sub owns good houses, it does not mean the planet gets any benefic effects; what matters is where the sub is posited.The bad or good effects of a planet can be seen only during the joint periods of the Dasa, Bhukthi and Anthra Lords. Here, again the significators of the houses shall come into play. This also proves the theorem that the Dasha lord has to be benefic to give long lasting good effects.If the Bukhthi and anthra lords are benefic and the Dasha lord is malefic, the former cannot make big difference in a person's life. All elderly KP astrologers please correct me if this understanding is correct.> > Ramachandran> > > > > >

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Dear sir,While I understand now how the houses are becoming benefic and malefic for different aspects they signify, i have yet to get a clarification on the timing of the event. Say, in your example you have mentioned about father's death very nicely. But when can it actually happen? Only during the joint periods of Badhaka, Maraka and either saturn or Mars in transit over the Badhaka/ Sir, please throw more light.This session is getting more educative.Thanks,Ramachandran.On 8/9/06, Raichur-a-r <

raichurar wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar I gave the example of fathers death, only to show that a particular event can be adverse or beneficial . Father is 9th house. His death is indicated by the Badhaka and Maraka Houses, found from the Rasi of the 9th house.

Suppose 9th house Sign is Aries, a movable sign. Then the houses to be considered are Badhaka,11th from 9th i.e. 7th. Maraksa 7th and 2nd from 9th i.e. 3rd and 10th. Now consider the Badhaka i.e 7th. Suppose the sublord of this house is Sat. Then find what houses it signifies (house of residence, and houses it owns). What is the Star Lord. What houses does it signify ? say 9,7. Now what is the sub of this Saturn ?

Say jup. Where is placed. Suppose it is placed in 5th. Now with respect to 9th house, it is 9th, an unfavorable result. So the result is unfavorable with respect to 9th it is not favourable. The same sub is placed 11th to 7th, so favourable

to the 7th house. So in this case the postion is favorable to Badhaka So if one is questioning about death, it indicates death. You have to treat each case in similar way

good luck bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@

.co.in> wrote: Dear Shri Raichurji,Namaste,I suppose the last line of Your mail will take effect when the

8th house is activated by some Dasha running in start Lord of 8th, and connection to The Sun as

karaka for father ?Please correct me if wrong. Just trying to learn.regards,Bhaskar.

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Padma Ramachandran> The principle of KP is that a planet, during its dasa/bhukty/antatra gives the reults of the Star Lord of that planet, i.e the House it occupies and the Houses it owns.> > The Sub lord by its postion, will show wether the results are favorable or un favorable. The position of the sub lord is fixed. Its position if 1,2,3,6,9,10,11 is favorable for the house concerned. Each house result has to be evaluated. Thus the benfic effects will depend on what house we are concerned. So it can be that one effect is beneficial other may be unfavorable. > > You lose your father -- a loss| You gain by inheriting his property.

Gain Same incidence |> > Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran wrote:> Dear Group members,> > I have been reading all your mail for a long time, while I have been learning from KSK's book about KP astrology. As I understand the KP system now, the question of benefic planets is defined by the sub of the planet; i.e., those planets falling in the sub representing 1,2,3,6,10 & 11 are benefic.Others are not benefic.The determination of benefic planet is restricted to, in which house the sub is deposited to give it beneficial effects or otherwise. Say for Meena Lagna person, if Jupiter is seated in a star lord and in a sub of say Mars occupying 3rd house ( Rishabha ), then Jupiter is benefic. If it is in a star lord and the sub occupying the 8th house and representing houses 2 and 8, then the person can experience losses due to 2nd house ( family) and also his business partner

can get loans etc( 8th house effect). If the sub is not represented by 1,2,3,6,10, or 11 then the houses represnted by the sub will get importance by ownership in determining its bad effects. Just> because the sub owns good houses, it does not mean the planet gets any benefic effects; what matters is where the sub is posited.The bad or good effects of a planet can be seen only during the joint periods of the Dasa, Bhukthi and Anthra Lords. Here, again the significators of the houses shall come into play. This also proves the theorem that the Dasha lord has to be benefic to give long lasting good effects.If the Bukhthi and anthra lords are benefic and the Dasha lord is malefic, the former cannot make big difference in a person's life. All elderly KP astrologers please correct me if this understanding is correct.> > Ramachandran> > > > > >

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