Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon. Best regards, Kalev Pehme On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj wrote: Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USAJu - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an influence to ruler)Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of United StatesVe/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the President of US (57%).Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max 20/11/2007).Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - Assumes officeMost probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only 8/3/2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 This was given by an Australian astrolger for a reading! He consults her. , " Kalev Pehme " <icastes wrote: > > Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon. > > Best regards, > > Kalev Pehme > > > On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj wrote: > > > > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA > > > > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation > > > > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > > influence to ruler) > > > > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of > > United States > > > > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the > > President of US (57%). > > > > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max > > 20/11/2007). > > > > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - > > Assumes office > > > > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only 8/3/2016 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 astro.com, the most trusted website for celebrity database, records her birth time as 8.00 p.m. LMT. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.vinivj <vinivj wrote: This was given by an Australian astrolger for a reading! He consults her. , "Kalev Pehme" <icastes wrote:>> Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon.> > Best regards,> > Kalev Pehme> > > On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj wrote:> >> > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA> >> > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation> >> > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an> > influence to ruler)> >> > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of> > United States> >> > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the> > President of US (57%).> >> > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max> > 20/11/2007).> >> > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day -> > Assumes office> >> > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only 8/3/2016> >> > > >>Hasmukhrai J MehtaAstrological services par excellencehttp://www.astroclinica.com Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Please wait till 2007 and confirm if this is correct VINIJvinivj <vinivj wrote: Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USAJu - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an influence to ruler)Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of United StatesVe/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the President of US (57%).Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max 20/11/2007).Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - Assumes officeMost probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only 8/3/2016 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Actually, the best source for birth times is the site founded by Lois Rodden, and at astroadata the debate is between whether it is about 8 pm in the evening or in the morning, as per Clinton's mother's recollection. As far as I am concerned, I have been following Clinton for a long time, as she is my senator and because I am her political backer as well, and the 8:02 AM time seems best. From what I have seen in her Uranian Western chart, this time works far better than any other. As for KP, I think I'll leave that to you guys. However, I must say that during 2008, she will be running Mercury/Rahu for the election year, and Mercury/Rahu/Saturn for the election itself. The important thing here is that Rahu (11, 7), because to be elected in the US requires a vast complex of associations and friends working together to be elected, as well as strong partnership that Bill will give her. All the seventh house associations also indicate that there will be open warfare against her when she runs. Everything is going to be thrown at her. With the exception of Kennedy, practically all the US Presidents, including Bill Clinton, have had very strong 11th house signficators. (The Vedic fifth house doesn't work for American Presidents, except Kennedy.) The Mercury (12, 7, 9) indicates not only the vast travelling that she will do, but that if she were to run foreign affairs will be paramount in her campaign. The Saturn (12, 10, 4, 5, 9) seems to round out the picture well her. On a KP basis, I am not sure that this is enough to win, but, then, we have no idea who her opponent will be. Best regards, Kalev Pehme On 7/28/06, Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: astro.com, the most trusted website for celebrity database, records her birth time as 8.00 p.m. LMT. Hasmukhrai J Mehta. vinivj <vinivj wrote: This was given by an Australian astrolger for a reading! He consults her. , " Kalev Pehme " <icastes wrote:>> Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon.> > Best regards,> > Kalev Pehme> > > On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj wrote: > >> > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA> >> > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation> >> > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > > influence to ruler)> >> > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of> > United States> >> > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the > > President of US (57%).> >> > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max> > 20/11/2007).> >> > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - > > Assumes office> >> > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only 8/3/2016> >> > > >> Hasmukhrai J MehtaAstrological services par excellencehttp://www.astrocli nica.com Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 What are Bith Data, Sid. Time, Ayanamsa, Asc and Moon positions getting DBA MER-RAH-SAT for 02-11-2008 (election itself)? Hillary Clinton, Oct 26, 1947, 8:02 " AM " (+6), Chicago, IL, US, 41N51, 87W39 (a) KPAstro 2.5--> Sid. Time 10:27:48, " New KPA " 23:02:18, Jupiter dasa balance 4y:2m:18d, Asc Li 29:05:28, Moon Aq 29:49:05, for 02-11-2008 (coming presidential election day) DBAS VEN-SAT-KET-VEN. (b) Jagnanatha Hora 7.04 --> Sid. Time 20:27:48, " Lahiri " Ayanamsa 20:07:28, Jupiter dasa balance 4y:3m:24d, Asc Li 29:00:18, Moon Aq 29:43:56, for 02-11-2008 (coming presidential election day) DBAS VEN- SAT-MER-JUP. , " Kalev Pehme " <icastes wrote: > > Actually, the best source for birth times is the site founded by Lois > Rodden, and at astroadata the debate is between whether it is about 8 pm in > the evening or in the morning, as per Clinton's mother's recollection. As > far as I am concerned, I have been following Clinton for a long time, as she > is my senator and because I am her political backer as well, and the 8:02 AM > time seems best. > > From what I have seen in her Uranian Western chart, this time works far > better than any other. As for KP, I think I'll leave that to you guys. > However, I must say that during 2008, she will be running Mercury/Rahu for > the election year, and Mercury/Rahu/Saturn for the election itself. The > important thing here is that Rahu (11, 7), because to be elected in the US > requires a vast complex of associations and friends working together to be > elected, as well as strong partnership that Bill will give her. All the > seventh house associations also indicate that there will be open warfare > against her when she runs. Everything is going to be thrown at her. With the > exception of Kennedy, practically all the US Presidents, including Bill > Clinton, have had very strong 11th house signficators. (The Vedic fifth > house doesn't work for American Presidents, except Kennedy.) The Mercury > (12, 7, 9) indicates not only the vast travelling that she will do, but that > if she were to run foreign affairs will be paramount in her campaign. The > Saturn (12, 10, 4, 5, 9) seems to round out the picture well her. On a KP > basis, I am not sure that this is enough to win, but, then, we have no idea > who her opponent will be. > > Best regards, > > Kalev Pehme > On 7/28/06, Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: > > > > astro.com, the most trusted website for celebrity database, records her > > birth time as 8.00 p.m. LMT. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > *vinivj <vinivj* wrote: > > > > This was given by an Australian astrolger for a reading! He consults > > her. > > > > <% 40>, " Kalev > > Pehme " <icastes@> wrote: > > > > > > Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Kalev Pehme > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA > > > > > > > > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation > > > > > > > > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > > > > influence to ruler) > > > > > > > > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of > > > > United States > > > > > > > > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the > > > > President of US (57%). > > > > > > > > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max > > > > 20/11/2007). > > > > > > > > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - > > > > Assumes office > > > > > > > > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only > > 8/3/2016 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta > > Astrological services par excellence > > http://www.astroclinica.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers<http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers.ya hoo.com/> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I use Parashara's Light, not JHora, because I have found that calculation with JHora seem incorrect at times. I usually check them out with Janus, which provides a wide array of ayanamsa and Janus confirms Parashara, not JHora. The ayanamsa I used was standard Krishnamurti, not Lahiri. So, for most of the year 2008, she is running Mercury/Rahu. The problem is that no matter how good her significators may be, we have no idea what her opponents will be like. The problem is that she has to first win the nomination, and then win the election. If she doesn't get the nomination, no matter how good the rest of the year the case is moot. Essentially, she has to win the nomination during a Mercury (12, 7, 9)/Rahu (11, 7)/Rahu (11,7) period. As I noted in my previous posting, what is critical to winning the presidency is a very strong 11 significator, because the US political system is an 11th house kind of election system. My bet is that Hillary will use the 12 (foreign policy) as her main attack vehicle. One must remember that George Bush has discounted any possibilty that American troops will leave either Iraq or Afghanistan and, god knows, where else during his presidency. So, the war(s) will be of primary concern by that time. I believe that 7th significator will indicate the very brutal assaults that will be lodged against her. Yet, Hillary gives as good as she gets; so, we must expect a particularly open 7 house battle, as well as the underground 12th house stuff as welll. But I am optimistic with the Rahu's 11 to carry her through the primaries. For the election, she is running Mercury (12,7,9)/Rahu (11,7)/Saturn(12,10,4,5,9). To me, that indicates that the very hard 7th house atttacks have to be resolved in an 11th significator, which Rahu offers, with the side benefit of Saturn's 10 (elevation of social standing),4 (the US itself),5 (it's always a gamble, an election), and a bit of luck, 9, not to mention the constant journeying of campaigning in the US. This period also rules over the January 20, 2009 swearing-in, and the 9 probably indicates that swearing-in ceremony. I don't necessarily see 12 significators as losing, but more indicative of what the election will be about, foreign policy. I should also note that the 12 significator also indicates the depth of secret enemies stuff that will be going on during the election on all sides. Hillary is no slouch in using underground means to win. All this presupposes an 8:02 am birth time. If the time is 8 pm, the KP significators change radically. Mercury is 2,8,5; Rahu is 7,2; and the Saturn for election day is 6,8,1,5,12. As I said, without that 11 significator, there is no possible way that Hillary can win. US elections are not 5th house types of elections. These significators bode no good, if Clinton's chart is really 8:00 pm. If it is the evening time, then Hillary doesn't even get the nomination. In her Uranian chart, in her tertiary progressions for election day, the fourth (we have our elections on Tuesdays) we find that her Nodes/Zeus midpoint is at the Aries Point, which means to be elected or selected. Her Sun/Jupiter midpoint, success in general, is also at the Aries Point, the point of the world in general. Moreover, her Sun/Kronos midpoint, the President, is conjunct the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint, great luck. Her directions for that day are also very good. While this analysis is too cursory to speak with certainty, the basic realities are that her 8:02 am chart is more of less consistent with the KP 8:02 am. I should also point out that just be a candidate for the presidency is such a high order of things, and if she were also the first women to run, even if she were to lose the election she would be considered astrologically exceptionally successful. It may be that her significators are good, but her opponent might have better. We don't know, because we don't know if it will be John McCain or Bill Frist or whomever else might emerge on the side of the GOP. I should also note that Bill Clinton did go to psychics for consultations, the very best in the US--that we know. Whether he used astrologers is not known to me, and I don't know whether Hillary did or does the same. I would not put it past Clinton to lie about her birth time, putting it in the 8 pm time when in fact it is in the morning. She is a very shrewd politician. Best regards, Kalev Pehme On 7/30/06, tw853 <tw853 wrote: What are Bith Data, Sid. Time, Ayanamsa, Asc and Moon positions getting DBA MER-RAH-SAT for 02-11-2008 (election itself)?Hillary Clinton, Oct 26, 1947, 8:02 " AM " (+6), Chicago, IL, US,41N51, 87W39 (a) KPAstro 2.5--> Sid. Time 10:27:48, " New KPA " 23:02:18, Jupiter dasa balance4y:2m:18d, Asc Li 29:05:28, Moon Aq 29:49:05, for 02-11-2008 (coming presidential election day) DBAS VEN-SAT-KET-VEN. (b) Jagnanatha Hora 7.04 --> Sid. Time 20:27:48, " Lahiri " Ayanamsa 20:07:28, Jupiter dasa balance 4y:3m:24d, Asc Li 29:00:18, Moon Aq 29:43:56, for 02-11-2008 (coming presidential election day) DBAS VEN- SAT-MER-JUP. , " Kalev Pehme " <icastes wrote: >> Actually, the best source for birth times is the site founded by Lois> Rodden, and at astroadata the debate is between whether it is about 8 pm in> the evening or in the morning, as per Clinton's mother's recollection. As> far as I am concerned, I have been following Clinton for a long time, as she> is my senator and because I am her political backer as well, and the 8:02 AM> time seems best. > > From what I have seen in her Uranian Western chart, this time works far> better than any other. As for KP, I think I'll leave that to you guys.> However, I must say that during 2008, she will be running Mercury/Rahu for> the election year, and Mercury/Rahu/Saturn for the election itself. The> important thing here is that Rahu (11, 7), because to be elected in the US> requires a vast complex of associations and friends working together to be> elected, as well as strong partnership that Bill will give her. All the> seventh house associations also indicate that there will be open warfare> against her when she runs. Everything is going to be thrown at her. With the> exception of Kennedy, practically all the US Presidents, including Bill> Clinton, have had very strong 11th house signficators. (The Vedic fifth> house doesn't work for American Presidents, except Kennedy.) The Mercury> (12, 7, 9) indicates not only the vast travelling that she will do, but that> if she were to run foreign affairs will be paramount in her campaign. The> Saturn (12, 10, 4, 5, 9) seems to round out the picture well her. On a KP> basis, I am not sure that this is enough to win, but, then, we have no idea> who her opponent will be.> > Best regards,> > Kalev Pehme> > > > > > > > On 7/28/06, Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote:> >> > astro.com, the most trusted website for celebrity database, records her> > birth time as 8.00 p.m. LMT.> >> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> >> >> > *vinivj <vinivj* wrote: > >> > This was given by an Australian astrolger for a reading! He consults> > her.> >> > <%40>, " Kalev> > Pehme " <icastes@> wrote:> > >> > > Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon. > > >> > > Best regards,> > >> > > Kalev Pehme> > >> > >> > > On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA> > > >> > > > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation> > > >> > > > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > > > > influence to ruler)> > > >> > > > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of> > > > United States> > > > > > > > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the> > > > President of US (57%).> > > >> > > > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max > > > > 20/11/2007).> > > >> > > > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day -> > > > Assumes office> > > >> > > > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only > > 8/3/2016> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta > > Astrological services par excellence> > http://www.astroclinica.com> >> > ------------------------------ > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers< http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers./>> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 No way to get running " Mercury/Rahu " for most of the year 2008, for Hillary Clinton, Oct 26, 1947, 8:02 " AM " (+6), Chicago, IL, US, 41N51, 87W39. Something must be wrong with birth data entry not SWs. What are DOB, TOB, POB getting running " Mercury/Rahu " for most of the year 2008? Why basic birth data can not be shown? Any analysis on the basis of wrongly calculated chart is useless, whatever rules are applying? I think that calculation with JHora seem incorrect at times because Jagannatha Hora, KPAstro 2.5, Astro-Kundli etc use Swiss emphemeris and they give the similar accuracy of Astrodienst, provider of Swiss emphemeris and calculation basics; KPAstro 2.5 gives exactly the same result (with no more than 1-2 sec difference) as Astrodienst which is one the most accurate SW eventhough it is free. What is a particular case JHora seem incorrect to compare with other SWs? It seems taking the same running " Mercury/Rahu " dasa for TOB 8:02 AM & TOB 8 PM and they are intire different because of difference in Moon position for 12 hours. Once again what DOB, TOB, POB are used? , " Kalev Pehme " <icastes wrote: > > I use Parashara's Light, not JHora, because I have found that calculation > with JHora seem incorrect at times. I usually check them out with Janus, > which provides a wide array of ayanamsa and Janus confirms Parashara, not > JHora. The ayanamsa I used was standard Krishnamurti, not Lahiri. So, for > most of the year 2008, she is running Mercury/Rahu. The problem is that no > matter how good her significators may be, we have no idea what her opponents > will be like. The problem is that she has to first win the nomination, and > then win the election. If she doesn't get the nomination, no matter how good > the rest of the year the case is moot. Essentially, she has to win the > nomination during a Mercury (12, 7, 9)/Rahu (11, 7)/Rahu (11,7) period. As I > noted in my previous posting, what is critical to winning the presidency is > a very strong 11 significator, because the US political system is an 11th > house kind of election system. My bet is that Hillary will use the 12 > (foreign policy) as her main attack vehicle. One must remember that George > Bush has discounted any possibilty that American troops will leave either > Iraq or Afghanistan and, god knows, where else during his presidency. So, > the war(s) will be of primary concern by that time. I believe that 7th > significator will indicate the very brutal assaults that will be lodged > against her. Yet, Hillary gives as good as she gets; so, we must expect a > particularly open 7 house battle, as well as the underground 12th house > stuff as welll. But I am optimistic with the Rahu's 11 to carry her through > the primaries. > > For the election, she is running Mercury (12,7,9)/Rahu > (11,7)/Saturn(12,10,4,5,9). To me, that indicates that the very hard 7th > house atttacks have to be resolved in an 11th significator, which Rahu > offers, with the side benefit of Saturn's 10 (elevation of social > standing),4 (the US itself),5 (it's always a gamble, an election), and a bit > of luck, 9, not to mention the constant journeying of campaigning in the US. > This period also rules over the January 20, 2009 swearing-in, and the 9 > probably indicates that swearing-in ceremony. I don't necessarily see 12 > significators as losing, but more indicative of what the election will be > about, foreign policy. > > I should also note that the 12 significator also indicates the depth of > secret enemies stuff that will be going on during the election on all sides. > Hillary is no slouch in using underground means to win. > > All this presupposes an 8:02 am birth time. > > If the time is 8 pm, the KP significators change radically. Mercury is > 2,8,5; Rahu is 7,2; and the Saturn for election day is 6,8,1,5,12. As I > said, without that 11 significator, there is no possible way that Hillary > can win. US elections are not 5th house types of elections. These > significators bode no good, if Clinton's chart is really 8:00 pm. If it is > the evening time, then Hillary doesn't even get the nomination. > > In her Uranian chart, in her tertiary progressions for election day, the > fourth (we have our elections on Tuesdays) we find that her Nodes/Zeus > midpoint is at the Aries Point, which means to be elected or selected. Her > Sun/Jupiter midpoint, success in general, is also at the Aries Point, the > point of the world in general. Moreover, her Sun/Kronos midpoint, the > President, is conjunct the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint, great luck. Her > directions for that day are also very good. While this analysis is too > cursory to speak with certainty, the basic realities are that her 8:02 am > chart is more of less consistent with the KP 8:02 am. > > I should also point out that just be a candidate for the presidency is such > a high order of things, and if she were also the first women to run, even if > she were to lose the election she would be considered astrologically > exceptionally successful. It may be that her significators are good, but her > opponent might have better. We don't know, because we don't know if it will > be John McCain or Bill Frist or whomever else might emerge on the side of > the GOP. > > I should also note that Bill Clinton did go to psychics for consultations, > the very best in the US--that we know. Whether he used astrologers is not > known to me, and I don't know whether Hillary did or does the same. I would > not put it past Clinton to lie about her birth time, putting it in the 8 pm > time when in fact it is in the morning. She is a very shrewd politician. > > Best regards, > > Kalev Pehme > > > On 7/30/06, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > > What are Bith Data, Sid. Time, Ayanamsa, Asc and Moon positions > > getting DBA MER-RAH-SAT for 02-11-2008 (election itself)? > > > > Hillary Clinton, Oct 26, 1947, 8:02 " AM " (+6), Chicago, IL, US, > > 41N51, 87W39 > > > > (a) KPAstro 2.5--> Sid. Time 10:27:48, " New KPA " 23:02:18, Jupiter > > dasa balance > > 4y:2m:18d, Asc Li 29:05:28, Moon Aq 29:49:05, for 02-11-2008 (coming > > presidential election day) DBAS VEN-SAT-KET-VEN. > > > > (b) Jagnanatha Hora 7.04 --> Sid. Time 20:27:48, " Lahiri " Ayanamsa > > 20:07:28, Jupiter dasa balance 4y:3m:24d, Asc Li 29:00:18, Moon Aq > > 29:43:56, for 02-11-2008 (coming presidential election day) DBAS VEN- > > SAT-MER-JUP. > > > > <% 40>, " Kalev > > Pehme " <icastes@> wrote: > > > > > > Actually, the best source for birth times is the site founded by > > Lois > > > Rodden, and at astroadata the debate is between whether it is > > about 8 pm in > > > the evening or in the morning, as per Clinton's mother's > > recollection. As > > > far as I am concerned, I have been following Clinton for a long > > time, as she > > > is my senator and because I am her political backer as well, and > > the 8:02 AM > > > time seems best. > > > > > > From what I have seen in her Uranian Western chart, this time > > works far > > > better than any other. As for KP, I think I'll leave that to you > > guys. > > > However, I must say that during 2008, she will be running > > Mercury/Rahu for > > > the election year, and Mercury/Rahu/Saturn for the election > > itself. The > > > important thing here is that Rahu (11, 7), because to be elected > > in the US > > > requires a vast complex of associations and friends working > > together to be > > > elected, as well as strong partnership that Bill will give her. > > All the > > > seventh house associations also indicate that there will be open > > warfare > > > against her when she runs. Everything is going to be thrown at > > her. With the > > > exception of Kennedy, practically all the US Presidents, including > > Bill > > > Clinton, have had very strong 11th house signficators. (The Vedic > > fifth > > > house doesn't work for American Presidents, except Kennedy.) The > > Mercury > > > (12, 7, 9) indicates not only the vast travelling that she will > > do, but that > > > if she were to run foreign affairs will be paramount in her > > campaign. The > > > Saturn (12, 10, 4, 5, 9) seems to round out the picture well her. > > On a KP > > > basis, I am not sure that this is enough to win, but, then, we > > have no idea > > > who her opponent will be. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Kalev Pehme > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/28/06, Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > astro.com, the most trusted website for celebrity database, > > records her > > > > birth time as 8.00 p.m. LMT. > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > > > > *vinivj <vinivj@>* wrote: > > > > > > > > This was given by an Australian astrolger for a reading! He > > consults > > > > her. > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, " Kalev > > > > Pehme " <icastes@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Senator Clinton's time of birth is 8:02 am, not noon. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Kalev Pehme > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, vinivj <vinivj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > > > > > > influence to ruler) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the > > Presidency of > > > > > > United States > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the > > > > > > President of US (57%). > > > > > > > > > > > > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max > > > > > > 20/11/2007). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful > > day - > > > > > > Assumes office > > > > > > > > > > > > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only > > > > 8/3/2016 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta > > > > Astrological services par excellence > > > > http://www.astroclinica.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > Answers<http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers.ya > > hoo.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Hello All There are DOB factual errors all over. Anyone, can get confused. I searched for this subject today and quite interesting inputs. The best bet is in Hororary. I think she would win, based on my quick hororary ananlysis now. Source: KP Reader 3 (1, 7 & 11 sublords) - example of prediction of election of a politician. Someone can upload that sample please. Regards Ramesh , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Please wait till 2007 and confirm if this is correct > VINIJ > > vinivj <vinivj wrote: > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA > > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation > > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > influence to ruler) > > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of > United States > > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the > President of US (57%). > > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max > 20/11/2007). > > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - > Assumes office > > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only 8/3/2016 > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Hillary Clinton for US Presiednt (KP natal & horary, TSP, KB, 4 step, Vedic predictions) -free KPE-Zine, current issue Mar 2008, www.loger.com Hillary Clinton's Controversial TOB and Timeline -Message#9031/ 9075 of this group , "Ramesh Tendulkar" <ram_t_1968 wrote:>> Hello All> > There are DOB factual errors all over. Anyone, can get confused. I > searched for this subject today and quite interesting inputs.> > The best bet is in Hororary.> > I think she would win, based on my quick hororary ananlysis now.> > Source: KP Reader 3 (1, 7 & 11 sublords) - example of prediction of > election of a politician. Someone can upload that sample please.> > Regards> Ramesh> > , Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote:> >> > Please wait till 2007 and confirm if this is correct> > VINIJ> > > > vinivj vinivj@ wrote:> > Hillary Clinton 26/10/1947 12 PM Chicago, Illinois, USA> > > > Ju - Hora Lord, Me - finalisation> > > > 10th House, Me with sub Ve- ruler combination (has been an > > influence to ruler)> > > > Ve/Sat/Moon - 1/3 to 6/6//2007 - Nomination for the Presidency of > > United States> > > > Ve/Sat/Ra/Me/Su- 13/8/2007 to 4/2/2008 - Should become the > > President of US (57%).> > > > Result would be confirmed during 13/11/2007 to16/11/2007 (max > > 20/11/2007).> > > > Jan 20, 2008 (10.13AM to 14.55 PM) - Sunday - Most Powerful day - > > Assumes office> > > > Most probably would have two terms, as Sat/Sat/Ra ends only > 8/3/2016> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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