Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear all, In oath chart of Manmohansigni found that he will change and new PM will come in power. Detail of Oath chart: NAME: SWEARING IN CHART OF SING GOVT PLACE :DELHI + DATE:22 - 5 - 2004 : TIME: 17 H. 34 M. 0 S. For longevity of PM we have to roted chart as 10th as Asc. Asc sublord is MOON. MOON is in thse star of RAHU and sub of MER. MOON is in 11(Badhaka) l/o 1.RAHU is in 10.Conj.with MER. and aspected by JUP(9th Hindu Aspect).MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER.JUP is in 1 l/o 6,9. We are found 1,5,9 and always 1,5,9 indictae saome change.and innthe oath chart we say that change in PM.but No new election. Runing (5 Year) Dasa is MER.(Thanks to Rangarajan who add Political Dasa in New Ver. of KPAstro2.5).MER is in the star and sub of VEN. up to 30/11/2006 MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER. VEN is in 11(badhaka) l/o 4,11(Badhaka) BHuktilord is MAR. MAR is in the star of RAHU and VEN. MAR is in 11 l/o 5,10.RAHU is in 10.Conj.with MER. and aspected by JUP(9th Hindu Aspect).MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER.JUP is in 1 l/o 6,9.VEN is in 11(badhaka) l/o 4,11(Badhaka) next bhukti RAHU,JUP and SAT indiate Badhaka and 1,5,9. so within MER Dasa we can see new PM. 11th is SANSAD.if we roted chart 11th as Asc. and check Ascf sublord we found: Asc sublord is MER. MER is in the star and sub of VEN. MER is in 8 l/o 2,11.VEN is in 10 l/o 3,10. in this cas we cnat found any badhaka and maraka Bhava. No New election but PM will change. regards kanak >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Sports Fantasy Football ’06 - Go with the leader. Start your league today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Kanak, I liked u r analization...but i think it dosn't work. but any way u can specify the date of the event? Swami Omkar Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear all, In oath chart of Manmohansigni found that he will change and new PM will come in power. Detail of Oath chart: NAME: SWEARING IN CHART OF SING GOVT PLACE :DELHI + DATE:22 - 5 - 2004 : TIME: 17 H. 34 M. 0 S. For longevity of PM we have to roted chart as 10th as Asc. Asc sublord is MOON. MOON is in thse star of RAHU and sub of MER. MOON is in 11(Badhaka) l/o 1.RAHU is in 10.Conj.with MER. and aspected by JUP(9th Hindu Aspect).MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER.JUP is in 1 l/o 6,9. We are found 1,5,9 and always 1,5,9 indictae saome change.and innthe oath chart we say that change in PM.but No new election. Runing (5 Year) Dasa is MER.(Thanks to Rangarajan who add Political Dasa in New Ver. of KPAstro2.5).MER is in the star and sub of VEN. up to 30/11/2006 MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER. VEN is in 11(badhaka) l/o 4,11(Badhaka) BHuktilord is MAR. MAR is in the star of RAHU and VEN. MAR is in 11 l/o 5,10.RAHU is in 10.Conj.with MER. and aspected by JUP(9th Hindu Aspect).MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER.JUP is in 1 l/o 6,9.VEN is in 11(badhaka) l/o 4,11(Badhaka) next bhukti RAHU,JUP and SAT indiate Badhaka and 1,5,9. so within MER Dasa we can see new PM. 11th is SANSAD.if we roted chart 11th as Asc. and check Ascf sublord we found: Asc sublord is MER. MER is in the star and sub of VEN. MER is in 8 l/o 2,11.VEN is in 10 l/o 3,10. in this cas we cnat found any badhaka and maraka Bhava. No New election but PM will change. regards kanak >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Sports Fantasy Football ’06 - Go with the leader. Start your league today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Swami ji, Why you think ir dosnt work? please expalin so i understan ylour viue. it will help me. I am not able to give specific date.I am not on that stage. i am still in Primery stage. regards kanak swami omkar <swamiomkar wrote: Dear Kanak, I liked u r analization...but i think it dosn't work. but any way u can specify the date of the event? Swami Omkar Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear all, In oath chart of Manmohansigni found that he will change and new PM will come in power. Detail of Oath chart: NAME: SWEARING IN CHART OF SING GOVT PLACE :DELHI + DATE:22 - 5 - 2004 : TIME: 17 H. 34 M. 0 S. For longevity of PM we have to roted chart as 10th as Asc. Asc sublord is MOON. MOON is in thse star of RAHU and sub of MER. MOON is in 11(Badhaka) l/o 1.RAHU is in 10.Conj.with MER. and aspected by JUP(9th Hindu Aspect).MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER.JUP is in 1 l/o 6,9. We are found 1,5,9 and always 1,5,9 indictae saome change.and innthe oath chart we say that change in PM.but No new election. Runing (5 Year) Dasa is MER.(Thanks to Rangarajan who add Political Dasa in New Ver. of KPAstro2.5).MER is in the star and sub of VEN. up to 30/11/2006 MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER. VEN is in 11(badhaka) l/o 4,11(Badhaka) BHuktilord is MAR. MAR is in the star of RAHU and VEN. MAR is in 11 l/o 5,10.RAHU is in 10.Conj.with MER. and aspected by JUP(9th Hindu Aspect).MER is in 9 l/o 3,12 MER is sublord of 2,5,8,11 and no planet in the star of MER.JUP is in 1 l/o 6,9.VEN is in 11(badhaka) l/o 4,11(Badhaka) next bhukti RAHU,JUP and SAT indiate Badhaka and 1,5,9. so within MER Dasa we can see new PM. 11th is SANSAD.if we roted chart 11th as Asc. and check Ascf sublord we found: Asc sublord is MER. MER is in the star and sub of VEN. MER is in 8 l/o 2,11.VEN is in 10 l/o 3,10. in this cas we cnat found any badhaka and maraka Bhava. No New election but PM will change. regards kanak >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Sports Fantasy Football ’06 - Go with the leader. Start your league today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dear Kanak, My view is when the even is based on Oath that time RP wil show the posstiveness. so we can't check the changing of Govt or PM in this chart. Pray well and put another time chart for current time. do same analisys it wil work. and u can also fix the date of the event. I know about u. you are not a basic level astrologer . Swami Omkar India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Dear Swami ji, My comment in Bold: regards Kanak Dear Kanak, My view is when the even is based on Oath that time RP wil show the posstiveness. so we can't check the changing of Govt or PM in this chart. Kanak: Bcose i show positive ness, i pridict change of PM, if we check Solar retun chart for this oath chart and roted chart as 10 as asc. we found JUP is SL. in the star of RAHU and sub of SUN.JUP is in 9, l/o 11(Badhaka) RAHU is in 2 maraka,conj with moon in 2 l/o 6,7. SUN is in 3 l/o 8. If we check 11th ( Sansad) as asc. SL is VEN. VEN is in the star of MER and sub of SAT. VEN is in 1 l/o 3,8. MER is in 3 l/o 4. SAT is in 5 l/o 1,11,12. in this case we too found 1,5.12. Pray well and put another time chart for current time. do same analisys it wil work. and u can also fix the date of the event. Kanak: I request you to do this for benifit of all members bcoz only this mundane side is not good in KP.and i am try this to learn in mundane , i dont care my pridictrion went right or wrong. I know about u. you are not a basic level astrologer . Kanak: Realy i am not mutch good astrologer still i have to learn too mutch. i am zero in mundane, it is 100% truth. regards Kanak >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Dear Kanak, 1. This chart was previously studied in Msg#5804 referring AY Divekar's article: " Political Astrology Introduction of the Discovery of Political Dasa/Bhuktis " , KP & Astrology Year Book, 1995, pp 73-81 (thanks to Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com) 2. The issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th house of swearing-in chart to judge the longevity of the government was raised in Msg#5825. At that time Asc was preferred for longevity of government. (Msg#5827 & 5828) 3. On that line of thought, Modi's swearing-in chart was studied in Msg#5881. Then referring the above mentioned KP & Astrology Year Book 1995, pp 73-81, a revised analysis of Modi's swearing-in chart was posted in Msg#8410. 4. Taking 10th house for government (opposite 6th house for opposition party) and 11th house for parliament or cabinet is common in Mudane definition of houses. The controversy is only in swearing- in chart to take 10th or 1st house for longevity of government, eg Sanjay Rath, KN Rao, VP Goel, Anand Soni, Raman Suprajarama, Robert Hand for 1st house and AY Divekar (KP & Astrology Year Book, 1995) for 10th house. Taking 11th house for judging longevity of government has not yet been come across. Since Solar Return chart, New Moon chart and Solar Ingress chart are annual charts, they may be useful for judging longevity of government for each particular year only but not for overall 4 or 5-yr term. 5. The idea of 1,5,9 signification by 10 thCSL indicates a change in PM comes perhaps from your experience regarding transfer. (Msg#2648) In my personal opinion, such a change may be expected when a conjoined DBA signifies 1,5,9, eg. Mo/Me/Ve DBA in 5-yr Vimshottari dasa. And the 1,5,9 signification by 10thCSL (for AscCSL) & 5thCSL (for 8thCSL) may be helping to prolong Singh's PM referring your posting in the file section " Longevity Related --- Madhymayau: Asc. signifying 1,5,10,9,6,8,12 + Badhka & Marka --Up to 66 Year; Purnayu: Asc. signifying 1,5,9,10 -- Up to 100 Year. " As per 10th house for Asc in India independence chart, Singh with difficulties may survive current Mercury bhukti of Venus dasa up to 27-07-2008 signifying 7,6,1,2,5,9 (Badhaka) houses after surviving Saturn bhukti with signification of 6,7,5,9,1,2 houses. No prediction of his full term survival has been found. 6. Let us have a galance at some charts from Msg#5873. Nixon was forced to resign after 1yr:6m without deadly or a-5-9 signification by any of 10thCSL and 1stCSL. Kennedy was short dead after 2yr:10m during deadly 4-yr Vimshottari dasa together with Badhaka signification by 10thCSL. V.P. Singh was forced to resign after 7 months during Maraka, Badhaka 5-yr Vimshottari dasa together with Maraka, Badhaka signification by both 1st & 10th CSLs. Vajpayee survived full term of 3rd PM despite deadly signification by both 1st & 10th CSLs during unfavorable 5-yr Vimshttari dasa period. Let us wait and see Bush (with 10thCSL signifying 11 <Badhaka>,9,4,11,12,3 houses in his 2nd term swearing-in chart) in recently entered nasty Mercury dasa of his natal chart. 8. It can be learned by practical research as you are doing and done by Guruji KSK by taking your time. Good luck! tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Swami ji, > > My comment in Bold: > > regards > Kanak > > Dear Kanak, > My view is when the even is based on Oath that time RP wil show the posstiveness. so we can't check the changing of Govt or PM in this chart. > > Kanak: Bcose i show positive ness, i pridict change of PM, if we check Solar retun chart for this oath chart and roted chart as 10 as asc. we found JUP is SL. in the star of RAHU and sub of SUN.JUP is in 9, l/o 11(Badhaka) > RAHU is in 2 maraka,conj with moon in 2 l/o 6,7. SUN is in 3 l/o 8. > > If we check 11th ( Sansad) as asc. SL is VEN. VEN is in the star of MER and sub of SAT. VEN is in 1 l/o 3,8. > MER is in 3 l/o 4. SAT is in 5 l/o 1,11,12. > in this case we too found 1,5.12. > > > Pray well and put another time chart for current time. do same analisys it wil work. and u can also fix the date of the event. > > Kanak: I request you to do this for benifit of all members bcoz only this mundane side is not good in KP.and i am try this to learn in mundane , i dont care my pridictrion went right or wrong. > > I know about u. you are not a basic level astrologer . > > Kanak: Realy i am not mutch good astrologer still i have to learn too mutch. i am zero in mundane, it is 100% truth. > > regards > Kanak > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Dear Tin Win ji, My comment in Bold with Red. regards kanak tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak, 1. This chart was previously studied in Msg#5804 referring AY Divekar's article: " Political Astrology Introduction of the Discovery of Political Dasa/Bhuktis " , KP & Astrology Year Book, 1995, pp 73-81 (thanks to Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinic4u, http://www.astroclinica.com) 2. The issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th house of swearing-in chart to judge the longevity of the government was raised in Msg#5825. At that time Asc was preferred for longevity of government. (Msg#5827 & 5828) 3. On that line of thought, Modi's swearing-in chart was studied in Msg#5881. Then referring the above mentioned KP & Astrology Year Book 1995, pp 73-81, a revised analysis of Modi's swearing-in chart was posted in Msg#8410. Kanak: Lajmi ji drow my attantion on articla in KP & Astrology 1995. befor that i strongly thinking about Asc. but Modi Govt pridiction went wrong.not that some other i have check also failed. I feel that oath of PL means oath of GOVT. not for only one person. comanly we say manmohansign's Govt. oath chart we never say Manmohan sing oath chart. 10th is for Head of Govt. and 11th is Sansad. so we have to Judge both.and this is not full and final if we found any other more ifective rules I am ready to follow it. 4. Taking 10th house for government (opposite 6th house for opposition party) and 11th house for parliament or cabinet is common in Mudane definition of houses. The controversy is only in swearing- in chart to take 10th or 1st house for longevity of government, eg Sanjay Rath, KN Rao, VP Goel, Anand Soni, Raman Suprajarama, Robert Hand for 1st house and AY Divekar (KP & Astrology Year Book, 1995) for 10th house. Taking 11th house for judging longevity of government has not yet been come across. Since Solar Return chart, New Moon chart and Solar Ingress chart are annual charts, they may be useful for judging longevity of government for each particular year only but not for overall 4 or 5-yr term. Kanak: yes we have to judge all chart .Last time i request Rangarajan to add political dasa in new ver, and he add this. thanks to him. now i again request him to add. New Moon , Solar Ingress ,TP Chart in next ver. of KPAstro2.5 5. The idea of 1,5,9 signification by 10 thCSL indicates a change in PM comes perhaps from your experience regarding transfer. (Msg#2648) In my personal opinion, such a change may be expected when a conjoined DBA signifies 1,5,9, eg. Mo/Me/Ve DBA in 5-yr Vimshottari dasa. And the 1,5,9 signification by 10thCSL (for AscCSL) & 5thCSL (for 8thCSL) may be helping to prolong Singh's PM referring your posting in the file section " Longevity Related --- Madhymayau: Asc. signifying 1,5,10,9,6,8,12 + Badhka & Marka --Up to 66 Year; Purnayu: Asc. signifying 1,5,9,10 -- Up to 100 Year. " As per 10th house for Asc in India independence chart, Singh with difficulties may survive current Mercury bhukti of Venus dasa up to 27-07-2008 signifying 7,6,1,2,5,9 (Badhaka) houses after surviving Saturn bhukti with signification of 6,7,5,9,1,2 houses. No prediction of his full term survival has been found. Kanak: working of 1,5,9 is realy a wonderfull. i alwyas watch this combination.and not me but some of my student also pridict marvellous prictions. in any kind of chart when we found 1,5,9 some kind of change will must. we have to find out which kind of change thats all. 6. Let us have a galance at some charts from Msg#5873. Nixon was forced to resign after 1yr:6m without deadly or a-5-9 signification by any of 10thCSL and 1stCSL. Kanak: I found 4 year dasa as MAR-MER-SAT-MER. (Asc.20 Ar.09.34 MOON: 01 Le 20.10) MAR is in the star of MER and sub of VEN.VEN is in 9 Bhuktilord MER is inn the sub of JUP. JUP is in 9. Antralordf SAT is sublord of 5,9. and no planet in the star of SAT If we roted chart 11th as Asc. same we found 1,5,9 If we roted chart 10th as Asc. same we found 1,5,9 this all indictae 1, 5,and 9. Kennedy was short dead after 2yr:10m during deadly 4-yr Vimshottari dasa together with Badhaka signification by 10thCSL. Kanak: I check but i found some deff ni Dasa.i founsd MOON-SAT-RAHU-MAR. please check it. so i am not done more chart. after your reply we will discuss about all 11 chart as mention in msg# 5873. V.P. Singh was forced to resign after 7 months during Maraka, Badhaka 5-yr Vimshottari dasa together with Maraka, Badhaka signification by both 1st & 10th CSLs. Vajpayee survived full term of 3rd PM despite deadly signification by both 1st & 10th CSLs during unfavorable 5-yr Vimshttari dasa period. Let us wait and see Bush (with 10thCSL signifying 11 <Badhaka>,9,4,11,12,3 houses in his 2nd term swearing-in chart) in recently entered nasty Mercury dasa of his natal chart. 8. It can be learned by practical research as you are doing and done by Guruji KSK by taking your time. Good luck! tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Swami ji, > > My comment in Bold: > > regards > Kanak > > Dear Kanak, > My view is when the even is based on Oath that time RP wil show the posstiveness. so we can't check the changing of Govt or PM in this chart. > > Kanak: Bcose i show positive ness, i pridict change of PM, if we check Solar retun chart for this oath chart and roted chart as 10 as asc. we found JUP is SL. in the star of RAHU and sub of SUN.JUP is in 9, l/o 11(Badhaka) > RAHU is in 2 maraka,conj with moon in 2 l/o 6,7. SUN is in 3 l/o 8. > > If we check 11th ( Sansad) as asc. SL is VEN. VEN is in the star of MER and sub of SAT. VEN is in 1 l/o 3,8. > MER is in 3 l/o 4. SAT is in 5 l/o 1,11,12. > in this case we too found 1,5.12. > > > Pray well and put another time chart for current time. do same analisys it wil work. and u can also fix the date of the event. > > Kanak: I request you to do this for benifit of all members bcoz only this mundane side is not good in KP.and i am try this to learn in mundane , i dont care my pridictrion went right or wrong. > > I know about u. you are not a basic level astrologer . > > Kanak: Realy i am not mutch good astrologer still i have to learn too mutch. i am zero in mundane, it is 100% truth. > > regards > Kanak > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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