Horary No 199 ---Help regarding Original KP 2 Vols & KSK’s bio

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Dear All,

 

1. Dear Lajmi ji, Kanak, Thank you very much for information.

 

2. The query rises because someone wrote back home that Krishnamurti

Padhdhati 2 Volumes written by Krishnamurti himself when he was

alive, edited by T.V. Viswanatha Iyer and published on 17-01-1966

became 6 Readers in 1971 with his disciples' supplements.

3. As far as my elder KP brother back home recalls from his reading

of Krishnamurti Padhadhati 2 Volumes in 1975, they cover mainly

present KP Reader III, only some of Reader V, a little bit of Reader

VI , almost none of Reader IV and none of Reader I and II and Vol 2

ends with a lot of Doubt up to around 16.

 

4. It is worthy to learn which rules in Krishnamurti Padhadhati 2

Volumes are deleted or modified in KP Readers, eg. 8th for foreign

(because of no more sea travel?) is deleted and whichever stronger

one of Lagna or Moon is modified to only Lagna..

 

5. Guruji KSK's Birth Data

 

5.1. Version 1

DOB: 01-11-1908, TOB 12:11 PM IST, POB: Thiruvaiyaru, n/Thanjavur,

Tamilnadu, 10N48, 79E15 (This TOB is to get the same Asc position Cp

11-00 but different Moon position and different dasa balance at

birth but same Navamsa chart as shown in KP Reader III, Old Edition

page 217/107 or New Edition page 387/269. This TOB and POB are as

per " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurti Padhdhati Part II " , 2003, page 252,

The Horoscope of KSK by M.G.G. Nayar; reproduced in " K. Hariharan:

Notable Persons and Krishnamurti Padhdhati " , 1993, page 15, The

Horoscope of KSK; same TOB rectified by C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer by Asc

Sbl to Moon Stl rule in " K.P. & Astrology, Year Book 2005 " , page

60, and POB 10N53, 79E10 through the world virtual Encarta.)

KPAstro 2.5 – Sid Time 14-38-36, KPNA 22-29-29, Asc Cp 10-59-59,

Moon Cp 11-50-59, Moon dasa balance 8y:7m:10d

 

5.2. Version 2

DOB: 01-11-1908, TOB 13:12 PM IST, POB: Thiruvaiyaru, Tamilnadu,

10N53, 79E06

(This TOB is to get the same Moon position Cp 11:52, same Moon dasa

balance of 8y:2m but different Asc position and different Asc

Navamsa as shown in KP Reader III, Old Edition page 217/107 or New

Edition page 387/269; POB long & lat as per atlas of KPAstro 2.5 &

Astro-Kundali). KPAstro 2.5 -- Sid Time 15-39-10, KPNA 22-29-29, Asc

Cp 26-55-26, Moon Cp 12-26-30, Moon dasa balance 8y:2m:0d

 

5.3. Birth data version 2 seems better fit in event-dasa checking

except the last crucial death event.

 

6. Guruji KSK's Timeline

 

a) 14-07-1927 (Ra-Ju-Sa-Me/RA-JU-ME-SU) entered Government service

b) DOB? eldest son K. Ganapathi

c) DOB? daughter who married Prof. S. Balasundaram

d) 21-10-1948 (Ju-Me-Ju-Sa/JU-ME-SA-MO) second son K. Subramanium

born

e) 15-02-53 (Ju-Su-Ma-Ve/JU-SU-ME-RA) third son K. Hariharan born

f) 19-09-1961 (Sa-Me-Me-Ra/SA-ME-VE-MA) voluntary retirement from

Government service

g) 20-03-1963 (Sa-Me-Ra-Ke/SA-ME-JU-MA) birth of his monthly

magazine " Astrology and Athrishta "

i) 17-01-1966 (Sa-Ve-Mo-Ju/SA-VE-RA-JU) publication of Krishnamurti

Padhdhati 2 Volumes

h) 1964 (Sa-Me or Sa-Ke/SA-KE OR SA-VE) Jyothish Marthand was

conferred by the Governor of Maharashtra

i) 29-06-1970(Sa-Mo-Me-Sa/SA-MO-SU-SA) Sothida Mannan was conferred

by the Malayan Astrological Society during his first foreign trip to

Malaysia where he delivered lectures about six weeks

j) November 1970 (Sa-Mo-Ve or Sa-Mo-Su/SA-MA-JU) visited Sri Lanka

and delivered lectures

k) 30-03-1972 (Sa-Ra-Ra-Sa/SA-RA-JU-KE) death

 

Note: Dasas in fisrt place are as per Birth Data version 1 & dasas

in second place in capital letters are as per Birth Data version 2.

 

 

Comment, correction, additional information, please---

 

 

in order to help us in finalizing a KP book back home (KP

developments & <17> notable horoscopes like Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit

Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Albert Einstein, Tony Blair, KSK, BV Raman etc.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

P.S. Since my KP books suppliers are not yet successful to help me

available a zeros copy of original Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes

set, I would be very grateful if it could be available at any cost.

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear tw853,

> Your query regarding the name of the Editor of

the original book by KSK,was redirected to me by Shri Kanak

Bosmiaji...

> I have to inform you that in the copy I

possess,which is unfortunately not in a good condition,(quite a

tattered state !),there is no mention of any Editor...(in those days

KSK himself was addressed as Editor or Guruji by most people and

most of his disciples,but, the foreward was written by

K.M.Munshi,the then Chancellor of Bharitiya Vidya Bhavan...and also

the Governor...

> With best wishes,

> Yours sincerely,

> L.Y.Rao.

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Shri Raichur,

>

> Could you kindly provide date and time of your casting to make my

> study of this case complete.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Tin Win

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak

> > I recast the Horary 199, as you had done. The 7th sublord is

> JUP, as in all cases.

> > The differences come because of the position of JUP on the

date

> the Horary is cast by others also.

> >

> > In your case JUP is in VEN-JUP-JUP. He is retro. So your

> conclusion that answer is

> > Negative, is PRIMA FACIE correct.

> >

> > Now JUP does not signify, 6,4,10 houses, which negate

Marriage.

> So we probe further.

> >

> > JUP aspects, SUN by 0pp, and Mars by 9th aspect. These are

again

> within 4 degress.

> >

> > So JUP will give results of SUN Mars. Both these signify 2,5 .

> So we have to conclude

> > Marriage is forseen.

> >

> > In other charts, JUP is in Rahu Star, who is in 2nd and so

> Marriage is promised.

> >

> > I hope this helps

> > good luck

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-

Phone.

> Get Messenger with Voice

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear TW853

I have gone thro the original 2 volumes of KSK, and wriiten a detailed note

and sent it to K_P_Corner group. If you contact Sandy Crowther, you will get

the notes.

 

According to an Article by Vaikari Rammurthy in KP & Astrology june 1990, the

birth details of KSK are given as

 

1-11-1908 @ 12-11 pm Lat 10N48 Long 79e15 : ayanamsa 22-29: Lagna Makar 11-52

 

Hope this helps

 

 

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear All,

 

1. Dear Lajmi ji, Kanak, Thank you very much for information.

 

2. The query rises because someone wrote back home that Krishnamurti

Padhdhati 2 Volumes written by Krishnamurti himself when he was

alive, edited by T.V. Viswanatha Iyer and published on 17-01-1966

became 6 Readers in 1971 with his disciples' supplements.

3. As far as my elder KP brother back home recalls from his reading

of Krishnamurti Padhadhati 2 Volumes in 1975, they cover mainly

present KP Reader III, only some of Reader V, a little bit of Reader

VI , almost none of Reader IV and none of Reader I and II and Vol 2

ends with a lot of Doubt up to around 16.

 

4. It is worthy to learn which rules in Krishnamurti Padhadhati 2

Volumes are deleted or modified in KP Readers, eg. 8th for foreign

(because of no more sea travel?) is deleted and whichever stronger

one of Lagna or Moon is modified to only Lagna..

 

5. Guruji KSK's Birth Data

 

5.1. Version 1

DOB: 01-11-1908, TOB 12:11 PM IST, POB: Thiruvaiyaru, n/Thanjavur,

Tamilnadu, 10N48, 79E15 (This TOB is to get the same Asc position Cp

11-00 but different Moon position and different dasa balance at

birth but same Navamsa chart as shown in KP Reader III, Old Edition

page 217/107 or New Edition page 387/269. This TOB and POB are as

per " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurti Padhdhati Part II " , 2003, page 252,

The Horoscope of KSK by M.G.G. Nayar; reproduced in " K. Hariharan:

Notable Persons and Krishnamurti Padhdhati " , 1993, page 15, The

Horoscope of KSK; same TOB rectified by C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer by Asc

Sbl to Moon Stl rule in " K.P. & Astrology, Year Book 2005 " , page

60, and POB 10N53, 79E10 through the world virtual Encarta.)

KPAstro 2.5 – Sid Time 14-38-36, KPNA 22-29-29, Asc Cp 10-59-59,

Moon Cp 11-50-59, Moon dasa balance 8y:7m:10d

 

5.2. Version 2

DOB: 01-11-1908, TOB 13:12 PM IST, POB: Thiruvaiyaru, Tamilnadu,

10N53, 79E06

(This TOB is to get the same Moon position Cp 11:52, same Moon dasa

balance of 8y:2m but different Asc position and different Asc

Navamsa as shown in KP Reader III, Old Edition page 217/107 or New

Edition page 387/269; POB long & lat as per atlas of KPAstro 2.5 &

Astro-Kundali). KPAstro 2.5 -- Sid Time 15-39-10, KPNA 22-29-29, Asc

Cp 26-55-26, Moon Cp 12-26-30, Moon dasa balance 8y:2m:0d

 

5.3. Birth data version 2 seems better fit in event-dasa checking

except the last crucial death event.

 

6. Guruji KSK's Timeline

 

a) 14-07-1927 (Ra-Ju-Sa-Me/RA-JU-ME-SU) entered Government service

b) DOB? eldest son K. Ganapathi

c) DOB? daughter who married Prof. S. Balasundaram

d) 21-10-1948 (Ju-Me-Ju-Sa/JU-ME-SA-MO) second son K. Subramanium

born

e) 15-02-53 (Ju-Su-Ma-Ve/JU-SU-ME-RA) third son K. Hariharan born

f) 19-09-1961 (Sa-Me-Me-Ra/SA-ME-VE-MA) voluntary retirement from

Government service

g) 20-03-1963 (Sa-Me-Ra-Ke/SA-ME-JU-MA) birth of his monthly

magazine " Astrology and Athrishta "

i) 17-01-1966 (Sa-Ve-Mo-Ju/SA-VE-RA-JU) publication of Krishnamurti

Padhdhati 2 Volumes

h) 1964 (Sa-Me or Sa-Ke/SA-KE OR SA-VE) Jyothish Marthand was

conferred by the Governor of Maharashtra

i) 29-06-1970(Sa-Mo-Me-Sa/SA-MO-SU-SA) Sothida Mannan was conferred

by the Malayan Astrological Society during his first foreign trip to

Malaysia where he delivered lectures about six weeks

j) November 1970 (Sa-Mo-Ve or Sa-Mo-Su/SA-MA-JU) visited Sri Lanka

and delivered lectures

k) 30-03-1972 (Sa-Ra-Ra-Sa/SA-RA-JU-KE) death

 

Note: Dasas in fisrt place are as per Birth Data version 1 & dasas

in second place in capital letters are as per Birth Data version 2.

 

 

Comment, correction, additional information, please---

 

 

in order to help us in finalizing a KP book back home (KP

developments & <17> notable horoscopes like Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit

Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Albert Einstein, Tony Blair, KSK, BV Raman etc.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

P.S. Since my KP books suppliers are not yet successful to help me

available a zeros copy of original Krishnamurti Padhdhati 2 Volumes

set, I would be very grateful if it could be available at any cost.

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear tw853,

> Your query regarding the name of the Editor of

the original book by KSK,was redirected to me by Shri Kanak

Bosmiaji...

> I have to inform you that in the copy I

possess,which is unfortunately not in a good condition,(quite a

tattered state !),there is no mention of any Editor...(in those days

KSK himself was addressed as Editor or Guruji by most people and

most of his disciples,but, the foreward was written by

K.M.Munshi,the then Chancellor of Bharitiya Vidya Bhavan...and also

the Governor...

> With best wishes,

> Yours sincerely,

> L.Y.Rao.

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Shri Raichur,

>

> Could you kindly provide date and time of your casting to make my

> study of this case complete.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Tin Win

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak

> > I recast the Horary 199, as you had done. The 7th sublord is

> JUP, as in all cases.

> > The differences come because of the position of JUP on the

date

> the Horary is cast by others also.

> >

> > In your case JUP is in VEN-JUP-JUP. He is retro. So your

> conclusion that answer is

> > Negative, is PRIMA FACIE correct.

> >

> > Now JUP does not signify, 6,4,10 houses, which negate

Marriage.

> So we probe further.

> >

> > JUP aspects, SUN by 0pp, and Mars by 9th aspect. These are

again

> within 4 degress.

> >

> > So JUP will give results of SUN Mars. Both these signify 2,5 .

> So we have to conclude

> > Marriage is forseen.

> >

> > In other charts, JUP is in Rahu Star, who is in 2nd and so

> Marriage is promised.

> >

> > I hope this helps

> > good luck

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-

Phone.

> Get Messenger with Voice

> >

> >