Relocated Charts-- A REVIEW ON RELOCATION ASTROLOGY

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A REVIEW ON RELOCATION ASTROLOGY

 

1. Relocated Chart in place of Natal Birth Chart

 

Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi contributes " A Research Study on

Relocation Astrlogy and KP " in KP Year Book 2006, page 14-19,

quoting--

 

" One should not always calculate the ascendant for the place of

birth unless the native is permanent in his birth place. " KP

Reader V

 

(Could someone provide the reference page because I can not find it.)

 

Two foreign Relocated Charts give more accurate indications of the

future which is lacking in the charts prepared for birth places.

 

Since Seshadri's consultant young boy with kidney transplant has

been faced all round Bhadaka, Maraka as mentioned in Kanak's

prediction (Msg# 7766), his Relocated Chart to LA, USA has been

tried in Msg#7782 which indicates less Bhadaka influence.

 

His Relocated TP does not indicate any harm in Kanak's analysis

(Msg#7900) and it is to wait and see what will happen to him. (Natal

and TP are given in Msg#7883) (Tithi Pravesh/TP/ Chart in Msg#7882)

 

Sonia Gandhi's Relocated Chart gives perfect indication of her

political events as shown in Msg#7857. Relocated TP Chart is also

preferable. (Msg#7904)

 

However, Relocation Charts (within same country) of Tony Blair and

Indira Gandhi do not give any significant indication of changes.

(Msg#7869)

 

As Kanak prefer Relocated Solar Return Chart as his Tajik Guru

(Msg#7904), a review has been made as follows.

 

2. Location for Solar Return (SR)/ TP

 

2.1. BIRTH PLACE

 

Raman (Varshaphal, page 11)

Charak (Predictive Techniques in Varshaphala, page 15)

Sumeet Chugh (Varshaphal, page 5)

Dr. P.S. Sastri (Uttara Kalamrita, 2001, page 164)

Sanjay Rath and P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (TP article)

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (Analysis: Vajpayee and 1998 Indian Elections;

Feb 18, 1998) L.D. Madan (Election 2000, Who will be the Next

President of USA?)

Nance McCullough *(Solar Returns Formulas & Analyses, page 1-8)

Kim Falconer (Astrology & Aptitude)

 

* Relocation on a more or less permanent basis would be more valid.

 

 

http://www.cyberastro.com/products/birthday.report.asp

Our Solar Return Charts are calculated on the basis of the place

where you are born as per Vedic Astrology, although Western

Astrology calculates the Solar Return Chart on the basis of the

place where you are on your birthday.

 

 

2.2. Relocated SR

 

2.2.1. CURRENT RESIDENCE

 

KSK (KP Reader III, Old Ed page 305/ New Ed p 482, Annual Horoscope)

Donald A. Bradley (Solar & Lunar Returns)

Celeste Teal (Predicting Events with Astrology; Identifying

Planetary Triggers: Astrological Techniques for Prediction)

Erin Sullivan

 

Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Llewellyn Journal - Interpreting the Solar Return

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/391

Using the location of your residence at the time of the birthday is

recommended. In fact, if one moves during the year, the Solar Return

should be relocated as well. There are subtle shifts of energy as

the planets may change astrological house position. Some people

actually travel for their birthdays in order to produce the most

beneficial rays possible for the year. This is a fine way to start

the year but not really a way to avoid issues as the configurations

for the residence are waiting when one returns home.

 

 

2.2.2. LOCATION ON THE DAY OF SR

 

Raymond A. Merriman (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction)

Mary Fortier Shea (Planets in Solar Returns: Yearly Cycles of

Transformation & Growth)

 

A suggestion as given by Raymond A. Merriman to travel to a more

appropriate location where the SR will support the attainment of a

native's intentions is, in Charak's opinion, an exercise in

ignorance.

 

Merriman's wife Debby's goal to purchase a new home was attained by

traveling to a favorable location from place of residence around the

time of 1977 SR but her brother had a car accident not shown in her

birth place or residence charts due to moving Mars from 4th to 3rd

house in her SR. (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction, page 149)

 

If a horoscope only shows a tendency and if one can change the event

by one's will, than astrology has no place. (KP Reader V, 1983, page

170)

 

Both have to happen according to one's karma which can be read by an

astrologer. (KP Reader IV, 1984, page 174)

 

Noel Tyl said in 1977 that he could not avoid some health problems

indicated in his stateside SR chart by traveling to Europe location

for his SR that year.

 

Solar Returns, Astrology, Mary Fortier Shea

http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html

You can use your natal location, the location for your current home,

or your current location if you are away from home. The difference

is as follows: the natal location is like a progression. You are

born with this series of Solar Returns and there is no modification

for free-willed choices, but the charts do work. The Solar Return

for your present residence reflects the changes you have made over

the years. If you have moved away, the location and the orientation

of the Solar Return has changed reflecting the internal shift. The

location for your exact position at the time of the Sun's return is

in my opinion the most accurate because it most closely reflects

your present state of mind and any free-willed choices you have

made. It is not necessary that you remain in this location for the

year or even for very long. You only need relocate long enough to

set your intention or about a day.

 

 

3. Tropical or Sidereal SR/TP

 

It has also been said that solar return charts are more accurate if

the time of the return is corrected for the earth's precession. The

effects of precession become more noticeable with increasing age.

The difference between a solar return calculated with and without

precession will be 6 hours at age 18, 12 hours at age 36 and an

entire day at age 72.

James A. Eshelman (Interpreting Solar Returns)

Kenneth Bowser

 

4. Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa

 

For prediction of event within a year, as Kanak mentions in

Msg#7904, Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa can be calculated for SR or

TP by Jagannatha Hora 7.03. A little bit juggling needs for TP.

However this dasa may be useful for ONLY pinpointing of exact timing

(similar to monthly charts applied by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao in

Analysis: Vajpayee) for the event indicated by cross-analysis of

natal and SR/TP charts.

 

5. IT IS OPEN TO EXTENSIVE PRACTICAL/IMPIRICAL RESEARCH.

 

 

 

 

, Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953

wrote:

>

> Dear lerrned members,

>

> I open for discussion an important matter which may effect

persons who have left their place of birth. A lot of research and

thinking has been generated by our learned astrologers not only

Vedic but westerns too.

>

> IF A PERSON LEAVES HIS PLACE OF BIRTH AND SETTLES FAR AWAY, THE

CUSPS AT THAT NEW PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR THE SAME BIRTH TIME BECOME

EQUALLY IMPORTANT WHICH IS REFERRED AS RELOCATED CHART.

>

> This has been very elaboratley described by some astrologers for

the persons who have moved into different hemisphere. For example if

a person born in Northern Hemisphere settles in Southern hemisphere,

his destiny would have taken a different turn. Many astrologers use

to advise the people a new place of residence where stars will

favour a lot.

>

> I give you an example from my experience. A lady (born in North

India) was having melefic Saturn in 5th house and with its malefic

influence on 11th and 2nd house, was denied a child for several

years of her marriage. Fortunately or may be as per her desitiny,

she moved to Australia with her husband. The relocated chart for the

same birth time but for her new place of residence in Southern

Hemisphere moved Saturn to 4th house. Thus 5th, 2nd and 11th houses

become clear of any bad influence of Saturn. As a matter of fact,

beneficial planets like Jupiter and Venus threw their weights on

these houses. And guess what, she became a mother of a healthy

child.

>

> Though I have not done enough research to prove or disprove

that, but from commonsense point of view I am inclined to believe

that relocation plays an important role in one's destiny. However,

please do remember that as our Guruji maharaj KP used to say that

Brahma is not changing your destiny just like that. This relocation

and your life in foreign country MUST also be shown by your natal

chart. If this relocation is shown, and God and sadguru is pleased

with you, these changes may happen.

>

> PLEASE COMMENT.

>

> All the best and with regards,

>

> Yatendra Sharma

>

>

>

>

> On 7

> 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Tin Win ji and Yatendra ji,

 

Befor some time i try on relocation chart but no mutch responce form members.

no one is ready to try and give his opinion.

 

If some members do this excersies i have confidence that we found some more

usefull tool for more correct pridiction.

 

regards

kanak

 

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

A REVIEW ON RELOCATION ASTROLOGY

 

1. Relocated Chart in place of Natal Birth Chart

 

Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi contributes " A Research Study on

Relocation Astrlogy and KP " in KP Year Book 2006, page 14-19,

quoting--

 

" One should not always calculate the ascendant for the place of

birth unless the native is permanent in his birth place. " KP

Reader V

 

(Could someone provide the reference page because I can not find it.)

 

Two foreign Relocated Charts give more accurate indications of the

future which is lacking in the charts prepared for birth places.

 

Since Seshadri's consultant young boy with kidney transplant has

been faced all round Bhadaka, Maraka as mentioned in Kanak's

prediction (Msg# 7766), his Relocated Chart to LA, USA has been

tried in Msg#7782 which indicates less Bhadaka influence.

 

His Relocated TP does not indicate any harm in Kanak's analysis

(Msg#7900) and it is to wait and see what will happen to him. (Natal

and TP are given in Msg#7883) (Tithi Pravesh/TP/ Chart in Msg#7882)

 

Sonia Gandhi's Relocated Chart gives perfect indication of her

political events as shown in Msg#7857. Relocated TP Chart is also

preferable. (Msg#7904)

 

However, Relocation Charts (within same country) of Tony Blair and

Indira Gandhi do not give any significant indication of changes.

(Msg#7869)

 

As Kanak prefer Relocated Solar Return Chart as his Tajik Guru

(Msg#7904), a review has been made as follows.

 

2. Location for Solar Return (SR)/ TP

 

2.1. BIRTH PLACE

 

Raman (Varshaphal, page 11)

Charak (Predictive Techniques in Varshaphala, page 15)

Sumeet Chugh (Varshaphal, page 5)

Dr. P.S. Sastri (Uttara Kalamrita, 2001, page 164)

Sanjay Rath and P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (TP article)

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (Analysis: Vajpayee and 1998 Indian Elections;

Feb 18, 1998) L.D. Madan (Election 2000, Who will be the Next

President of USA?)

Nance McCullough *(Solar Returns Formulas & Analyses, page 1-8)

Kim Falconer (Astrology & Aptitude)

 

* Relocation on a more or less permanent basis would be more valid.

 

 

http://www.cyberastro.com/products/birthday.report.asp

Our Solar Return Charts are calculated on the basis of the place

where you are born as per Vedic Astrology, although Western

Astrology calculates the Solar Return Chart on the basis of the

place where you are on your birthday.

 

 

2.2. Relocated SR

 

2.2.1. CURRENT RESIDENCE

 

KSK (KP Reader III, Old Ed page 305/ New Ed p 482, Annual Horoscope)

Donald A. Bradley (Solar & Lunar Returns)

Celeste Teal (Predicting Events with Astrology; Identifying

Planetary Triggers: Astrological Techniques for Prediction)

Erin Sullivan

 

Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Llewellyn Journal - Interpreting the Solar Return

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/391

Using the location of your residence at the time of the birthday is

recommended. In fact, if one moves during the year, the Solar Return

should be relocated as well. There are subtle shifts of energy as

the planets may change astrological house position. Some people

actually travel for their birthdays in order to produce the most

beneficial rays possible for the year. This is a fine way to start

the year but not really a way to avoid issues as the configurations

for the residence are waiting when one returns home.

 

 

2.2.2. LOCATION ON THE DAY OF SR

 

Raymond A. Merriman (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction)

Mary Fortier Shea (Planets in Solar Returns: Yearly Cycles of

Transformation & Growth)

 

A suggestion as given by Raymond A. Merriman to travel to a more

appropriate location where the SR will support the attainment of a

native's intentions is, in Charak's opinion, an exercise in

ignorance.

 

Merriman's wife Debby's goal to purchase a new home was attained by

traveling to a favorable location from place of residence around the

time of 1977 SR but her brother had a car accident not shown in her

birth place or residence charts due to moving Mars from 4th to 3rd

house in her SR. (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction, page 149)

 

If a horoscope only shows a tendency and if one can change the event

by one's will, than astrology has no place. (KP Reader V, 1983, page

170)

 

Both have to happen according to one's karma which can be read by an

astrologer. (KP Reader IV, 1984, page 174)

 

Noel Tyl said in 1977 that he could not avoid some health problems

indicated in his stateside SR chart by traveling to Europe location

for his SR that year.

 

Solar Returns, Astrology, Mary Fortier Shea

http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html

You can use your natal location, the location for your current home,

or your current location if you are away from home. The difference

is as follows: the natal location is like a progression. You are

born with this series of Solar Returns and there is no modification

for free-willed choices, but the charts do work. The Solar Return

for your present residence reflects the changes you have made over

the years. If you have moved away, the location and the orientation

of the Solar Return has changed reflecting the internal shift. The

location for your exact position at the time of the Sun's return is

in my opinion the most accurate because it most closely reflects

your present state of mind and any free-willed choices you have

made. It is not necessary that you remain in this location for the

year or even for very long. You only need relocate long enough to

set your intention or about a day.

 

 

3. Tropical or Sidereal SR/TP

 

It has also been said that solar return charts are more accurate if

the time of the return is corrected for the earth's precession. The

effects of precession become more noticeable with increasing age.

The difference between a solar return calculated with and without

precession will be 6 hours at age 18, 12 hours at age 36 and an

entire day at age 72.

James A. Eshelman (Interpreting Solar Returns)

Kenneth Bowser

 

4. Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa

 

For prediction of event within a year, as Kanak mentions in

Msg#7904, Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa can be calculated for SR or

TP by Jagannatha Hora 7.03. A little bit juggling needs for TP.

However this dasa may be useful for ONLY pinpointing of exact timing

(similar to monthly charts applied by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao in

Analysis: Vajpayee) for the event indicated by cross-analysis of

natal and SR/TP charts.

 

5. IT IS OPEN TO EXTENSIVE PRACTICAL/IMPIRICAL RESEARCH.

 

 

 

 

, Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953

wrote:

>

> Dear lerrned members,

>

> I open for discussion an important matter which may effect

persons who have left their place of birth. A lot of research and

thinking has been generated by our learned astrologers not only

Vedic but westerns too.

>

> IF A PERSON LEAVES HIS PLACE OF BIRTH AND SETTLES FAR AWAY, THE

CUSPS AT THAT NEW PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR THE SAME BIRTH TIME BECOME

EQUALLY IMPORTANT WHICH IS REFERRED AS RELOCATED CHART.

>

> This has been very elaboratley described by some astrologers for

the persons who have moved into different hemisphere. For example if

a person born in Northern Hemisphere settles in Southern hemisphere,

his destiny would have taken a different turn. Many astrologers use

to advise the people a new place of residence where stars will

favour a lot.

>

> I give you an example from my experience. A lady (born in North

India) was having melefic Saturn in 5th house and with its malefic

influence on 11th and 2nd house, was denied a child for several

years of her marriage. Fortunately or may be as per her desitiny,

she moved to Australia with her husband. The relocated chart for the

same birth time but for her new place of residence in Southern

Hemisphere moved Saturn to 4th house. Thus 5th, 2nd and 11th houses

become clear of any bad influence of Saturn. As a matter of fact,

beneficial planets like Jupiter and Venus threw their weights on

these houses. And guess what, she became a mother of a healthy

child.

>

> Though I have not done enough research to prove or disprove

that, but from commonsense point of view I am inclined to believe

that relocation plays an important role in one's destiny. However,

please do remember that as our Guruji maharaj KP used to say that

Brahma is not changing your destiny just like that. This relocation

and your life in foreign country MUST also be shown by your natal

chart. If this relocation is shown, and God and sadguru is pleased

with you, these changes may happen.

>

> PLEASE COMMENT.

>

> All the best and with regards,

>

> Yatendra Sharma

>

>

>

>

> On 7

> 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

Thanks a lot for your detailed analysis on relocated charts. I do agree with

Kanak bhai that we should do some more research on this and try to perfect it

more. I live in Australia, and as a hobby see a number of charts of the people

who have migratred to this country. I have made it a practice now to erect the

horoscope for relocated place (that is their new place of residence), and to my

surprise, I find that predictions and characters based on relocated chart are

often more correct that native chart. I will continue to do some more research

in this area and keep posted to our learned members for their comments.

 

In the mean time thanks and wish you all the best,

 

Yatendra Sharma

 

 

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

A REVIEW ON RELOCATION ASTROLOGY

 

1. Relocated Chart in place of Natal Birth Chart

 

Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi contributes " A Research Study on

Relocation Astrlogy and KP " in KP Year Book 2006, page 14-19,

quoting--

 

" One should not always calculate the ascendant for the place of

birth unless the native is permanent in his birth place. " KP

Reader V

 

(Could someone provide the reference page because I can not find it.)

 

Two foreign Relocated Charts give more accurate indications of the

future which is lacking in the charts prepared for birth places.

 

Since Seshadri's consultant young boy with kidney transplant has

been faced all round Bhadaka, Maraka as mentioned in Kanak's

prediction (Msg# 7766), his Relocated Chart to LA, USA has been

tried in Msg#7782 which indicates less Bhadaka influence.

 

His Relocated TP does not indicate any harm in Kanak's analysis

(Msg#7900) and it is to wait and see what will happen to him. (Natal

and TP are given in Msg#7883) (Tithi Pravesh/TP/ Chart in Msg#7882)

 

Sonia Gandhi's Relocated Chart gives perfect indication of her

political events as shown in Msg#7857. Relocated TP Chart is also

preferable. (Msg#7904)

 

However, Relocation Charts (within same country) of Tony Blair and

Indira Gandhi do not give any significant indication of changes.

(Msg#7869)

 

As Kanak prefer Relocated Solar Return Chart as his Tajik Guru

(Msg#7904), a review has been made as follows.

 

2. Location for Solar Return (SR)/ TP

 

2.1. BIRTH PLACE

 

Raman (Varshaphal, page 11)

Charak (Predictive Techniques in Varshaphala, page 15)

Sumeet Chugh (Varshaphal, page 5)

Dr. P.S. Sastri (Uttara Kalamrita, 2001, page 164)

Sanjay Rath and P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (TP article)

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (Analysis: Vajpayee and 1998 Indian Elections;

Feb 18, 1998) L.D. Madan (Election 2000, Who will be the Next

President of USA?)

Nance McCullough *(Solar Returns Formulas & Analyses, page 1-8)

Kim Falconer (Astrology & Aptitude)

 

* Relocation on a more or less permanent basis would be more valid.

 

 

http://www.cyberastro.com/products/birthday.report.asp

Our Solar Return Charts are calculated on the basis of the place

where you are born as per Vedic Astrology, although Western

Astrology calculates the Solar Return Chart on the basis of the

place where you are on your birthday.

 

 

2.2. Relocated SR

 

2.2.1. CURRENT RESIDENCE

 

KSK (KP Reader III, Old Ed page 305/ New Ed p 482, Annual Horoscope)

Donald A. Bradley (Solar & Lunar Returns)

Celeste Teal (Predicting Events with Astrology; Identifying

Planetary Triggers: Astrological Techniques for Prediction)

Erin Sullivan

 

Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Llewellyn Journal - Interpreting the Solar Return

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/391

Using the location of your residence at the time of the birthday is

recommended. In fact, if one moves during the year, the Solar Return

should be relocated as well. There are subtle shifts of energy as

the planets may change astrological house position. Some people

actually travel for their birthdays in order to produce the most

beneficial rays possible for the year. This is a fine way to start

the year but not really a way to avoid issues as the configurations

for the residence are waiting when one returns home.

 

 

2.2.2. LOCATION ON THE DAY OF SR

 

Raymond A. Merriman (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction)

Mary Fortier Shea (Planets in Solar Returns: Yearly Cycles of

Transformation & Growth)

 

A suggestion as given by Raymond A. Merriman to travel to a more

appropriate location where the SR will support the attainment of a

native's intentions is, in Charak's opinion, an exercise in

ignorance.

 

Merriman's wife Debby's goal to purchase a new home was attained by

traveling to a favorable location from place of residence around the

time of 1977 SR but her brother had a car accident not shown in her

birth place or residence charts due to moving Mars from 4th to 3rd

house in her SR. (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction, page 149)

 

If a horoscope only shows a tendency and if one can change the event

by one's will, than astrology has no place. (KP Reader V, 1983, page

170)

 

Both have to happen according to one's karma which can be read by an

astrologer. (KP Reader IV, 1984, page 174)

 

Noel Tyl said in 1977 that he could not avoid some health problems

indicated in his stateside SR chart by traveling to Europe location

for his SR that year.

 

Solar Returns, Astrology, Mary Fortier Shea

http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html

You can use your natal location, the location for your current home,

or your current location if you are away from home. The difference

is as follows: the natal location is like a progression. You are

born with this series of Solar Returns and there is no modification

for free-willed choices, but the charts do work. The Solar Return

for your present residence reflects the changes you have made over

the years. If you have moved away, the location and the orientation

of the Solar Return has changed reflecting the internal shift. The

location for your exact position at the time of the Sun's return is

in my opinion the most accurate because it most closely reflects

your present state of mind and any free-willed choices you have

made. It is not necessary that you remain in this location for the

year or even for very long. You only need relocate long enough to

set your intention or about a day.

 

 

3. Tropical or Sidereal SR/TP

 

It has also been said that solar return charts are more accurate if

the time of the return is corrected for the earth's precession. The

effects of precession become more noticeable with increasing age.

The difference between a solar return calculated with and without

precession will be 6 hours at age 18, 12 hours at age 36 and an

entire day at age 72.

James A. Eshelman (Interpreting Solar Returns)

Kenneth Bowser

 

4. Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa

 

For prediction of event within a year, as Kanak mentions in

Msg#7904, Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa can be calculated for SR or

TP by Jagannatha Hora 7.03. A little bit juggling needs for TP.

However this dasa may be useful for ONLY pinpointing of exact timing

(similar to monthly charts applied by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao in

Analysis: Vajpayee) for the event indicated by cross-analysis of

natal and SR/TP charts.

 

5. IT IS OPEN TO EXTENSIVE PRACTICAL/IMPIRICAL RESEARCH.

 

 

 

 

, Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953

wrote:

>

> Dear lerrned members,

>

> I open for discussion an important matter which may effect

persons who have left their place of birth. A lot of research and

thinking has been generated by our learned astrologers not only

Vedic but westerns too.

>

> IF A PERSON LEAVES HIS PLACE OF BIRTH AND SETTLES FAR AWAY, THE

CUSPS AT THAT NEW PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR THE SAME BIRTH TIME BECOME

EQUALLY IMPORTANT WHICH IS REFERRED AS RELOCATED CHART.

>

> This has been very elaboratley described by some astrologers for

the persons who have moved into different hemisphere. For example if

a person born in Northern Hemisphere settles in Southern hemisphere,

his destiny would have taken a different turn. Many astrologers use

to advise the people a new place of residence where stars will

favour a lot.

>

> I give you an example from my experience. A lady (born in North

India) was having melefic Saturn in 5th house and with its malefic

influence on 11th and 2nd house, was denied a child for several

years of her marriage. Fortunately or may be as per her desitiny,

she moved to Australia with her husband. The relocated chart for the

same birth time but for her new place of residence in Southern

Hemisphere moved Saturn to 4th house. Thus 5th, 2nd and 11th houses

become clear of any bad influence of Saturn. As a matter of fact,

beneficial planets like Jupiter and Venus threw their weights on

these houses. And guess what, she became a mother of a healthy

child.

>

> Though I have not done enough research to prove or disprove

that, but from commonsense point of view I am inclined to believe

that relocation plays an important role in one's destiny. However,

please do remember that as our Guruji maharaj KP used to say that

Brahma is not changing your destiny just like that. This relocation

and your life in foreign country MUST also be shown by your natal

chart. If this relocation is shown, and God and sadguru is pleased

with you, these changes may happen.

>

> PLEASE COMMENT.

>

> All the best and with regards,

>

> Yatendra Sharma

>

>

>

>

> On 7

> 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Sharma,

I am truly intrigued by your observations...as,our

Guruji,KSK,always maintained that not even Brahma can change one's Karmic

fate,and K.P. is based on the Karmic Theory...

Apart from minor changes which for all practical

purposes do not matter much...Iin my humble opinion...

This blowing up of really small/minor changes need not

be blown up into a full-fledged 'new theory/finding,in such a great hurry...in

my humble and cautious opinion...

I am aware that : every new idea has necessarily to go

through three stages : first " throw it out-it is nonsense " , second, let us try

it out...and see...and thae last and final stage is its acceptance... !

I guess that we are in the first(necessary) state

now,regarding this " relocation " theory...

I urge you to take my input in the " right spirit " ,and

harbour no fears of any ill-intentions on my part...I am being a bit

cautious...and also a little finicky towards new " research " ...and will await

more case-studies to affirm this theory,conclusively...

With best wishes and regards,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953 wrote:

Dear Sir,

 

Thanks a lot for your detailed analysis on relocated charts. I do agree with

Kanak bhai that we should do some more research on this and try to perfect it

more. I live in Australia, and as a hobby see a number of charts of the people

who have migratred to this country. I have made it a practice now to erect the

horoscope for relocated place (that is their new place of residence), and to my

surprise, I find that predictions and characters based on relocated chart are

often more correct that native chart. I will continue to do some more research

in this area and keep posted to our learned members for their comments.

 

In the mean time thanks and wish you all the best,

 

Yatendra Sharma

 

 

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

A REVIEW ON RELOCATION ASTROLOGY

 

1. Relocated Chart in place of Natal Birth Chart

 

Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi contributes " A Research Study on

Relocation Astrlogy and KP " in KP Year Book 2006, page 14-19,

quoting--

 

" One should not always calculate the ascendant for the place of

birth unless the native is permanent in his birth place. " KP

Reader V

 

(Could someone provide the reference page because I can not find it.)

 

Two foreign Relocated Charts give more accurate indications of the

future which is lacking in the charts prepared for birth places.

 

Since Seshadri's consultant young boy with kidney transplant has

been faced all round Bhadaka, Maraka as mentioned in Kanak's

prediction (Msg# 7766), his Relocated Chart to LA, USA has been

tried in Msg#7782 which indicates less Bhadaka influence.

 

His Relocated TP does not indicate any harm in Kanak's analysis

(Msg#7900) and it is to wait and see what will happen to him. (Natal

and TP are given in Msg#7883) (Tithi Pravesh/TP/ Chart in Msg#7882)

 

Sonia Gandhi's Relocated Chart gives perfect indication of her

political events as shown in Msg#7857. Relocated TP Chart is also

preferable. (Msg#7904)

 

However, Relocation Charts (within same country) of Tony Blair and

Indira Gandhi do not give any significant indication of changes.

(Msg#7869)

 

As Kanak prefer Relocated Solar Return Chart as his Tajik Guru

(Msg#7904), a review has been made as follows.

 

2. Location for Solar Return (SR)/ TP

 

2.1. BIRTH PLACE

 

Raman (Varshaphal, page 11)

Charak (Predictive Techniques in Varshaphala, page 15)

Sumeet Chugh (Varshaphal, page 5)

Dr. P.S. Sastri (Uttara Kalamrita, 2001, page 164)

Sanjay Rath and P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (TP article)

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (Analysis: Vajpayee and 1998 Indian Elections;

Feb 18, 1998) L.D. Madan (Election 2000, Who will be the Next

President of USA?)

Nance McCullough *(Solar Returns Formulas & Analyses, page 1-8)

Kim Falconer (Astrology & Aptitude)

 

* Relocation on a more or less permanent basis would be more valid.

 

 

http://www.cyberastro.com/products/birthday.report.asp

Our Solar Return Charts are calculated on the basis of the place

where you are born as per Vedic Astrology, although Western

Astrology calculates the Solar Return Chart on the basis of the

place where you are on your birthday.

 

 

2.2. Relocated SR

 

2.2.1. CURRENT RESIDENCE

 

KSK (KP Reader III, Old Ed page 305/ New Ed p 482, Annual Horoscope)

Donald A. Bradley (Solar & Lunar Returns)

Celeste Teal (Predicting Events with Astrology; Identifying

Planetary Triggers: Astrological Techniques for Prediction)

Erin Sullivan

 

Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Llewellyn Journal - Interpreting the Solar Return

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/391

Using the location of your residence at the time of the birthday is

recommended. In fact, if one moves during the year, the Solar Return

should be relocated as well. There are subtle shifts of energy as

the planets may change astrological house position. Some people

actually travel for their birthdays in order to produce the most

beneficial rays possible for the year. This is a fine way to start

the year but not really a way to avoid issues as the configurations

for the residence are waiting when one returns home.

 

 

2.2.2. LOCATION ON THE DAY OF SR

 

Raymond A. Merriman (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction)

Mary Fortier Shea (Planets in Solar Returns: Yearly Cycles of

Transformation & Growth)

 

A suggestion as given by Raymond A. Merriman to travel to a more

appropriate location where the SR will support the attainment of a

native's intentions is, in Charak's opinion, an exercise in

ignorance.

 

Merriman's wife Debby's goal to purchase a new home was attained by

traveling to a favorable location from place of residence around the

time of 1977 SR but her brother had a car accident not shown in her

birth place or residence charts due to moving Mars from 4th to 3rd

house in her SR. (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction, page 149)

 

If a horoscope only shows a tendency and if one can change the event

by one's will, than astrology has no place. (KP Reader V, 1983, page

170)

 

Both have to happen according to one's karma which can be read by an

astrologer. (KP Reader IV, 1984, page 174)

 

Noel Tyl said in 1977 that he could not avoid some health problems

indicated in his stateside SR chart by traveling to Europe location

for his SR that year.

 

Solar Returns, Astrology, Mary Fortier Shea

http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html

You can use your natal location, the location for your current home,

or your current location if you are away from home. The difference

is as follows: the natal location is like a progression. You are

born with this series of Solar Returns and there is no modification

for free-willed choices, but the charts do work. The Solar Return

for your present residence reflects the changes you have made over

the years. If you have moved away, the location and the orientation

of the Solar Return has changed reflecting the internal shift. The

location for your exact position at the time of the Sun's return is

in my opinion the most accurate because it most closely reflects

your present state of mind and any free-willed choices you have

made. It is not necessary that you remain in this location for the

year or even for very long. You only need relocate long enough to

set your intention or about a day.

 

 

3. Tropical or Sidereal SR/TP

 

It has also been said that solar return charts are more accurate if

the time of the return is corrected for the earth's precession. The

effects of precession become more noticeable with increasing age.

The difference between a solar return calculated with and without

precession will be 6 hours at age 18, 12 hours at age 36 and an

entire day at age 72.

James A. Eshelman (Interpreting Solar Returns)

Kenneth Bowser

 

4. Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa

 

For prediction of event within a year, as Kanak mentions in

Msg#7904, Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa can be calculated for SR or

TP by Jagannatha Hora 7.03. A little bit juggling needs for TP.

However this dasa may be useful for ONLY pinpointing of exact timing

(similar to monthly charts applied by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao in

Analysis: Vajpayee) for the event indicated by cross-analysis of

natal and SR/TP charts.

 

5. IT IS OPEN TO EXTENSIVE PRACTICAL/IMPIRICAL RESEARCH.

 

 

 

 

, Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953

wrote:

>

> Dear lerrned members,

>

> I open for discussion an important matter which may effect

persons who have left their place of birth. A lot of research and

thinking has been generated by our learned astrologers not only

Vedic but westerns too.

>

> IF A PERSON LEAVES HIS PLACE OF BIRTH AND SETTLES FAR AWAY, THE

CUSPS AT THAT NEW PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR THE SAME BIRTH TIME BECOME

EQUALLY IMPORTANT WHICH IS REFERRED AS RELOCATED CHART.

>

> This has been very elaboratley described by some astrologers for

the persons who have moved into different hemisphere. For example if

a person born in Northern Hemisphere settles in Southern hemisphere,

his destiny would have taken a different turn. Many astrologers use

to advise the people a new place of residence where stars will

favour a lot.

>

> I give you an example from my experience. A lady (born in North

India) was having melefic Saturn in 5th house and with its malefic

influence on 11th and 2nd house, was denied a child for several

years of her marriage. Fortunately or may be as per her desitiny,

she moved to Australia with her husband. The relocated chart for the

same birth time but for her new place of residence in Southern

Hemisphere moved Saturn to 4th house. Thus 5th, 2nd and 11th houses

become clear of any bad influence of Saturn. As a matter of fact,

beneficial planets like Jupiter and Venus threw their weights on

these houses. And guess what, she became a mother of a healthy

child.

>

> Though I have not done enough research to prove or disprove

that, but from commonsense point of view I am inclined to believe

that relocation plays an important role in one's destiny. However,

please do remember that as our Guruji maharaj KP used to say that

Brahma is not changing your destiny just like that. This relocation

and your life in foreign country MUST also be shown by your natal

chart. If this relocation is shown, and God and sadguru is pleased

with you, these changes may happen.

>

> PLEASE COMMENT.

>

> All the best and with regards,

>

> Yatendra Sharma

>

>

>

>

> On 7

> 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Rao ji.

 

In principle, I fully agree with you and some times really wonder and have

suspicion on this, but then few data come and these look to explain this theory

as it has happened in the case of Sonia Gandhi etc by our few learned members.

So my humble request to my fellow colleagues will be to accept your second idea.

LETS US TRY IT OUT AND SEE.

 

All the best and with regards,

 

Yatendra Sharma

 

 

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Mr.Sharma,

I am truly intrigued by your observations...as,our

Guruji,KSK,always maintained that not even Brahma can change one's Karmic

fate,and K.P. is based on the Karmic Theory...

Apart from minor changes which for all practical

purposes do not matter much...Iin my humble opinion...

This blowing up of really small/minor changes need not

be blown up into a full-fledged 'new theory/finding,in such a great hurry...in

my humble and cautious opinion...

I am aware that : every new idea has necessarily to go

through three stages : first " throw it out-it is nonsense " , second, let us try

it out...and see...and thae last and final stage is its acceptance... !

I guess that we are in the first(necessary) state

now,regarding this " relocation " theory...

I urge you to take my input in the " right spirit " ,and

harbour no fears of any ill-intentions on my part...I am being a bit

cautious...and also a little finicky towards new " research " ...and will await

more case-studies to affirm this theory,conclusively...

With best wishes and regards,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953 wrote:

Dear Sir,

 

Thanks a lot for your detailed analysis on relocated charts. I do agree with

Kanak bhai that we should do some more research on this and try to perfect it

more. I live in Australia, and as a hobby see a number of charts of the people

who have migratred to this country. I have made it a practice now to erect the

horoscope for relocated place (that is their new place of residence), and to my

surprise, I find that predictions and characters based on relocated chart are

often more correct that native chart. I will continue to do some more research

in this area and keep posted to our learned members for their comments.

 

In the mean time thanks and wish you all the best,

 

Yatendra Sharma

 

 

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

A REVIEW ON RELOCATION ASTROLOGY

 

1. Relocated Chart in place of Natal Birth Chart

 

Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi contributes " A Research Study on

Relocation Astrlogy and KP " in KP Year Book 2006, page 14-19,

quoting--

 

" One should not always calculate the ascendant for the place of

birth unless the native is permanent in his birth place. " KP

Reader V

 

(Could someone provide the reference page because I can not find it.)

 

Two foreign Relocated Charts give more accurate indications of the

future which is lacking in the charts prepared for birth places.

 

Since Seshadri's consultant young boy with kidney transplant has

been faced all round Bhadaka, Maraka as mentioned in Kanak's

prediction (Msg# 7766), his Relocated Chart to LA, USA has been

tried in Msg#7782 which indicates less Bhadaka influence.

 

His Relocated TP does not indicate any harm in Kanak's analysis

(Msg#7900) and it is to wait and see what will happen to him. (Natal

and TP are given in Msg#7883) (Tithi Pravesh/TP/ Chart in Msg#7882)

 

Sonia Gandhi's Relocated Chart gives perfect indication of her

political events as shown in Msg#7857. Relocated TP Chart is also

preferable. (Msg#7904)

 

However, Relocation Charts (within same country) of Tony Blair and

Indira Gandhi do not give any significant indication of changes.

(Msg#7869)

 

As Kanak prefer Relocated Solar Return Chart as his Tajik Guru

(Msg#7904), a review has been made as follows.

 

2. Location for Solar Return (SR)/ TP

 

2.1. BIRTH PLACE

 

Raman (Varshaphal, page 11)

Charak (Predictive Techniques in Varshaphala, page 15)

Sumeet Chugh (Varshaphal, page 5)

Dr. P.S. Sastri (Uttara Kalamrita, 2001, page 164)

Sanjay Rath and P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (TP article)

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (Analysis: Vajpayee and 1998 Indian Elections;

Feb 18, 1998) L.D. Madan (Election 2000, Who will be the Next

President of USA?)

Nance McCullough *(Solar Returns Formulas & Analyses, page 1-8)

Kim Falconer (Astrology & Aptitude)

 

* Relocation on a more or less permanent basis would be more valid.

 

 

http://www.cyberastro.com/products/birthday.report.asp

Our Solar Return Charts are calculated on the basis of the place

where you are born as per Vedic Astrology, although Western

Astrology calculates the Solar Return Chart on the basis of the

place where you are on your birthday.

 

 

2.2. Relocated SR

 

2.2.1. CURRENT RESIDENCE

 

KSK (KP Reader III, Old Ed page 305/ New Ed p 482, Annual Horoscope)

Donald A. Bradley (Solar & Lunar Returns)

Celeste Teal (Predicting Events with Astrology; Identifying

Planetary Triggers: Astrological Techniques for Prediction)

Erin Sullivan

 

Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Llewellyn Journal - Interpreting the Solar Return

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/391

Using the location of your residence at the time of the birthday is

recommended. In fact, if one moves during the year, the Solar Return

should be relocated as well. There are subtle shifts of energy as

the planets may change astrological house position. Some people

actually travel for their birthdays in order to produce the most

beneficial rays possible for the year. This is a fine way to start

the year but not really a way to avoid issues as the configurations

for the residence are waiting when one returns home.

 

 

2.2.2. LOCATION ON THE DAY OF SR

 

Raymond A. Merriman (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction)

Mary Fortier Shea (Planets in Solar Returns: Yearly Cycles of

Transformation & Growth)

 

A suggestion as given by Raymond A. Merriman to travel to a more

appropriate location where the SR will support the attainment of a

native's intentions is, in Charak's opinion, an exercise in

ignorance.

 

Merriman's wife Debby's goal to purchase a new home was attained by

traveling to a favorable location from place of residence around the

time of 1977 SR but her brother had a car accident not shown in her

birth place or residence charts due to moving Mars from 4th to 3rd

house in her SR. (The New Solar Return Book of Prediction, page 149)

 

If a horoscope only shows a tendency and if one can change the event

by one's will, than astrology has no place. (KP Reader V, 1983, page

170)

 

Both have to happen according to one's karma which can be read by an

astrologer. (KP Reader IV, 1984, page 174)

 

Noel Tyl said in 1977 that he could not avoid some health problems

indicated in his stateside SR chart by traveling to Europe location

for his SR that year.

 

Solar Returns, Astrology, Mary Fortier Shea

http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html

You can use your natal location, the location for your current home,

or your current location if you are away from home. The difference

is as follows: the natal location is like a progression. You are

born with this series of Solar Returns and there is no modification

for free-willed choices, but the charts do work. The Solar Return

for your present residence reflects the changes you have made over

the years. If you have moved away, the location and the orientation

of the Solar Return has changed reflecting the internal shift. The

location for your exact position at the time of the Sun's return is

in my opinion the most accurate because it most closely reflects

your present state of mind and any free-willed choices you have

made. It is not necessary that you remain in this location for the

year or even for very long. You only need relocate long enough to

set your intention or about a day.

 

 

3. Tropical or Sidereal SR/TP

 

It has also been said that solar return charts are more accurate if

the time of the return is corrected for the earth's precession. The

effects of precession become more noticeable with increasing age.

The difference between a solar return calculated with and without

precession will be 6 hours at age 18, 12 hours at age 36 and an

entire day at age 72.

James A. Eshelman (Interpreting Solar Returns)

Kenneth Bowser

 

4. Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa

 

For prediction of event within a year, as Kanak mentions in

Msg#7904, Mudda or 1-yr Vimshottari Dasa can be calculated for SR or

TP by Jagannatha Hora 7.03. A little bit juggling needs for TP.

However this dasa may be useful for ONLY pinpointing of exact timing

(similar to monthly charts applied by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao in

Analysis: Vajpayee) for the event indicated by cross-analysis of

natal and SR/TP charts.

 

5. IT IS OPEN TO EXTENSIVE PRACTICAL/IMPIRICAL RESEARCH.

 

 

 

 

, Yatendra Sharma <sharmay1953

wrote:

>

> Dear lerrned members,

>

> I open for discussion an important matter which may effect

persons who have left their place of birth. A lot of research and

thinking has been generated by our learned astrologers not only

Vedic but westerns too.

>

> IF A PERSON LEAVES HIS PLACE OF BIRTH AND SETTLES FAR AWAY, THE

CUSPS AT THAT NEW PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR THE SAME BIRTH TIME BECOME

EQUALLY IMPORTANT WHICH IS REFERRED AS RELOCATED CHART.

>

> This has been very elaboratley described by some astrologers for

the persons who have moved into different hemisphere. For example if

a person born in Northern Hemisphere settles in Southern hemisphere,

his destiny would have taken a different turn. Many astrologers use

to advise the people a new place of residence where stars will

favour a lot.

>

> I give you an example from my experience. A lady (born in North

India) was having melefic Saturn in 5th house and with its malefic

influence on 11th and 2nd house, was denied a child for several

years of her marriage. Fortunately or may be as per her desitiny,

she moved to Australia with her husband. The relocated chart for the

same birth time but for her new place of residence in Southern

Hemisphere moved Saturn to 4th house. Thus 5th, 2nd and 11th houses

become clear of any bad influence of Saturn. As a matter of fact,

beneficial planets like Jupiter and Venus threw their weights on

these houses. And guess what, she became a mother of a healthy

child.

>

> Though I have not done enough research to prove or disprove

that, but from commonsense point of view I am inclined to believe

that relocation plays an important role in one's destiny. However,

please do remember that as our Guruji maharaj KP used to say that

Brahma is not changing your destiny just like that. This relocation

and your life in foreign country MUST also be shown by your natal

chart. If this relocation is shown, and God and sadguru is pleased

with you, these changes may happen.

>

> PLEASE COMMENT.

>

> All the best and with regards,

>

> Yatendra Sharma

>

>

>

>

> On 7

> 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!

>

>