Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Dear Sir, I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My BirthTime is AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 for PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna comes at ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha value 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it changes my 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. Thanks a lot Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Dear Amit, ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub lord. It may be the same with 7th SBL. 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat 7th ---? ?------ GH Regards, tw , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear Sir, > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My BirthTime is > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > for > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna comes at > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha value > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it changes my > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > Thanks a lot > Amit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Dear ak 131 You will notice that the lords of the asc (sign,star,sub) remain the same, which ever sw you use. If you want to work with sub-sub lords, then use a specialised KP sw. I would recommend you to use K.P.Astro 2.1 by Man and Machines, Sri K.Rangarajan ranga good luck ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: Dear Sir, I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My BirthTime is AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 for PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna comes at ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha value 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it changes my 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. Thanks a lot Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Dear tw, For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other calculation.. Thanks Amit , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub lord. > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My BirthTime is > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > for > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna > comes at > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha value > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it changes > my > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > Thanks a lot > > Amit > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Dear Anant ji, For 1st house sign-star-sub are same but for house 7th the sublord changes to ketu at (14.28). Thanks Amit , anant raichur <raichurar wrote: > > Dear ak 131 > You will notice that the lords of the asc (sign,star,sub) remain the same, which ever sw you use. If you want to work with sub-sub lords, then use a specialised KP sw. > > I would recommend you to use K.P.Astro 2.1 by Man and Machines, Sri > K.Rangarajan ranga > > good luck > > > ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > Dear Sir, > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My BirthTime is > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > for > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna comes at > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha value > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it changes my > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > Thanks a lot > Amit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Dear Amit, Do you refer the following 7th 7 14 28 16.03 Ven Rah Ket Ket (by Jagannatha Hora) which is not KP 7th cusp by the Placidus house system? If not so, which 7 th cusp position of longitudes you are talking? It may not be a difference in the SBL of 7th in your case. Regards, tw , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear tw, > For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other calculation.. > Thanks > Amit > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub lord. > > > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My BirthTime > is > > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > for > > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > > > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna > > comes at > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha value > > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it changes > > my > > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > Amit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Dear Sir, In KP also , we have 1st cusp 180 degree opposite to 1st cusp... so if 1st cusp is at 14.28 degrees then 7th cusp is also at 14.28 libra .. and at 14.26 degrees, cuspal lord changes in libra(from mercury to ketu) .. Thanks Amit , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > Do you refer the following > > 7th 7 14 28 16.03 Ven Rah Ket Ket (by Jagannatha Hora) > > which is not KP 7th cusp by the Placidus house system? > > > If not so, which 7 th cusp position of longitudes you are talking? > > It may not be a difference in the SBL of 7th in your case. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > wrote: > > > > Dear tw, > > For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other calculation.. > > Thanks > > Amit > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > > > > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub > lord. > > > > > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > > > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > > > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My > BirthTime > > is > > > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > for > > > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - > 1988 > > > > > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna > > > comes at > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha > value > > > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it > changes > > > my > > > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Dear Amit, You are absolutely right regarding 1st & 7th. What I would like to mention is those are not KP cusps except 1st & 7th by taking 14 28 16 for all cusps. 7th 7 14:28:15 Ve Ra Ke Ke (as per KPAstro 2.1) Regards, tw , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear Sir, > In KP also , we have 1st cusp 180 degree opposite to 1st cusp... > so if 1st cusp is at 14.28 degrees then 7th cusp is also at 14.28 > libra .. and at 14.26 degrees, cuspal lord changes in libra(from > mercury to ketu) .. > Thanks > Amit > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > Do you refer the following > > > > 7th 7 14 28 16.03 Ven Rah Ket Ket (by Jagannatha Hora) > > > > which is not KP 7th cusp by the Placidus house system? > > > > > > If not so, which 7 th cusp position of longitudes you are talking? > > > > It may not be a difference in the SBL of 7th in your case. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other calculation.. > > > Thanks > > > Amit > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > > > > > > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub > > lord. > > > > > > > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > > > > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > > > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > > > > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My > > BirthTime > > > is > > > > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > > > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > > for > > > > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > > > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > > > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > > > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - > > 1988 > > > > > > > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna > > > > comes at > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > > > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha > > value > > > > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > > > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > > > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it > > changes > > > > my > > > > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Dear Amit, I have been reading your interactions with other senior members in the group regarding the ASC,7th cusp,sign/star/sub lords. Jagannath hora lite follows Lahiri ephemeris which is 6min away from KP ayanamsa.Hence if you try to compare the two charts you will find the difference in house degreees. the subs may vary depending on the planets. ketu,sun mars may show variation however,sat,jup,rahu marcury may not show.There is not fixed answer for this but depends on the specific chart under analysis. My suggestion would be follow only one ayanamsa either KP or Lahiri and prepare chart.Donot compare Jagannath hora software readings with Sri Raichur's readings,they will mislead.Both will be right in their context. Best wishes. Satish , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > You are absolutely right regarding 1st & 7th. What I would like to > mention is those are not KP cusps except 1st & 7th by taking 14 28 > 16 for all cusps. > > 7th 7 14:28:15 Ve Ra Ke Ke (as per KPAstro 2.1) > > Regards, > > tw > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > In KP also , we have 1st cusp 180 degree opposite to 1st > cusp... > > so if 1st cusp is at 14.28 degrees then 7th cusp is also at 14.28 > > libra .. and at 14.26 degrees, cuspal lord changes in libra(from > > mercury to ketu) .. > > Thanks > > Amit > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > Do you refer the following > > > > > > 7th 7 14 28 16.03 Ven Rah Ket Ket (by Jagannatha Hora) > > > > > > which is not KP 7th cusp by the Placidus house system? > > > > > > > > > If not so, which 7 th cusp position of longitudes you are > talking? > > > > > > It may not be a difference in the SBL of 7th in your case. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other > calculation.. > > > > Thanks > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > > > > > > > > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub- sub > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > > > > > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > > > > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant > Raichur's > > > > > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My > > > BirthTime > > > > is > > > > > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > > > > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > > > for > > > > > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > > > > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > > > > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > > > > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - > 3 - > > > 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of > Lagna > > > > > comes at > > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > > > > > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the > Ayanamsha > > > value > > > > > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > > > > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > > > > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it > > > changes > > > > > my > > > > > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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