Comparing tropical/sidereal (Temperament)

January 27, 2009

At 08:45 AM 1/27/09 +0200, Sari wrote:

>Therese wrote:

>

>It's more true to say that temperament theory evolved in the tropical zodiac

>and never did apply to the sidereal zodiac.

>

>Sari:

>

>This I don't quite understand, because for many centuries the zodiacs were

>more or less aligned. Even when there was about 8-9 degrees difference in

>the early medieval period, the zodiacs were still more together than

>separate. The temperament theory (that was in full practice by then) must

>have been more or less applicable on both zodiacs even at that time. The

>early astrologers couldn't really know which of the zodiacs worked better

>and they probably didn't have to care about that. It's only today that the

>zodiacs are separate enough to clearly see the difference.

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Sari, I believe you have Dorian Gieseler Greenbaum's TEMPERAMENT:

ASTROLOGY'S FORGOTTEN KEY? She gives a really excellent historical survey

of temperament, and the full system as related to astrology was only

developed rather late. Often the seasons were linked to temperament. I'm

sorry--I don't have time or energy to type all the references. For anyone

who is interested in temperament as it applies to astrology, Greenbaum's

book is the latest word.

I do change the charts in the book to the sidereal because I find the signs

fit better. For example, for cases of the melancholy temperament in the

book, there's a lot of tropical Scorpio emphais. But this is sidereal Libra

where Saturn is exalted. (What has Mars to do with melancholy?) It's

strange that it hasn't been noted that tropical Scorpio tends to be

pessimistic and can be a complainer. There can also be a general lack of

self-confidence in that sign--the Sun's fall.

Therese

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