Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Therese wrote: > Martha brings out another side of Cancer, the liking for entertaining and > having a beautiful home. So Cancer may literally be on the stage or make > its home a stage for displaying articles of value, tasteful decoration or > the preparation of fine meals for others to enjoy. Sari: I know nothing about Martha Stewart, but what I've noted among the people I know personally is that those with sidereal Taurus or Libra (signs ruled by Venus) rising frequently have strong artistic inclinations. This is one of the most frequent occurences in the sidereal zodiac I've seen. Therese wrote: So for Fagan-Bradley emphasis we have a Mercury ruled M.C. Can this compare to a vargottama Sun and Moon in 10th per Jyotish? Mercury is already emphasized as the ascendant lord, and it's in the same sign as vargottama Sun and Moon--Moon is especially important since it's in its own sign. Sari: Mercury is on the 11th Alcabitius cusp pointing to group activities, and what Flatley does is group dancing. So, having Mercury ruling not only the Ascendant but also the Pof, the MC and both of the lights makes the figure pointing really powerfully to a certain direction. All this energy is channelled via Mercury in the 11th house - I think this a really descriptive. Mercury ties all the chart together (+ gives him his wealth). Therese wrote: The question was whether Valens' description of Gemini (Fagan-Bradley) might fit Michael Flatley. Here (in part) is a quote from Valens: " Those so born, then, become fond of discourse, those who work with letters and education, poetic, lovers of music, teachers of the use of the voice, capable in matters of household management, those who receive trust. They also become interpreters, those with an aptitude for commerce, critics of good and bad, prudent, curious, initiates in occult matters. " (The Anthology, Book 1, Project Hindsight, 1993, p. 11) Sari: What Valens means by " those born " is the rising sign, and it's not Gemini for Flatley but Virgo. Valens writes about Virgo: " Virgo is the house of Hermes, feminine, winged, human in form, fastidious, set in the shape of Justice, bicorporeal, barren, pertaining to freedman, unfruitful, descending, earthy, common, semi-vocal and mute, corporeal, incomplete, changeable, pertaining to those who practice a handicraft, dual-natured. Those who are so born are good, modest, involved with the mysteries, full of care, those who lead a diverse life, managers of the property of others, faithful, good at domestic affairs, writers, those who are supported by speeches and calculations, hypocritical, curious, initiates into occult matters, those who spend their initial resources but prosper in middle age. " (Anthology) Al Biruni's and Abu Mashar's descriptions about Virgo are especially interesting in the light of the tropical / sidereal debate. Al Biruni writes: " Morals & manners: liberal, good manners, truthful, well-informed, pious, a judge, thougthful, lively, playful, fond of dance and music, a haviz [has the Qur'an by heart]. Places: divans, women's quarters, musician's houses, thresing floors, cultivated fields. " (The Book of Instruction in the Elements of the Art of Astrology) Abu Mashar says in the Astrological Metaphors http://www.cieloeterra.it/eng/eng.testi.metafore/eng.metafore.html . " As for Venus, it humiliates itself in Virgo, but it agrees with this sign owing to the feminine nature and besides almost everybody knows that Virgo means dancing, singing harmonies, lyres and other musical instruments and the search for marriage, all the things which are typical of Venus. " To a modern tropical ear it sounds that Abu Mashar would rather be talking about Libra, not Virgo! And so it is indeed that tropical Libra lays currently on sidereal Virgo. The traits that belonged originally to Virgo have transferred into modern tropical Libra. Best, Sari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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