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At 11:25 AM 1/12/09 -0800, Stepehn wrote:

>I am not sure, Sari, My father, of blessed memory, was killed in a car

crash a couple of months before my ninth birthday. In Vedic Astrology, the

Sun signifies the father. The Sun rules my tenth house(Leo), but is located

in my eighth house, traditionally the house of death. Saturn,

retrograde, ruling my fourth house(Aquarius), is located in my first

house(Scorpio). My mom was very restrictive of me while growing up, and

still tries to play authoritarian games with me.

 

Hi Stephen,

 

I believe the Jyotish way of looking at the parents is to tell us something

about their lives and social standing. The modern tropical way is to tell

us how the parents affected our lives in the personal sense. Also in

Hellenistic astrology the lots of the parents and dispositors were said to

describe the parents.

 

If the astrology of the parents was clear, astrologers would have solved

this problem long ago. We also have planets in the 4th/10th to complicate

the matter. Also planets in the 4th or 10th aspect the opposite house. Just

another astrological puzzle.

 

In my case with Neptune and Venus in the 10th (equal house), this does

describe my mother. She was a homemaker (Venus) whose entire life was built

on a very strong spiritual foundation (Neptune). My parents basically had

nothing except their small home (Ketu in 4th alone--when you could build an

entire pre-fab house for $5000), and my father wasn't successful from the

worldly sense as he held a number of non-prestigious jobs throughout his

life, not always being employed. They left no inheritance except a few

hundred dollars to each of their children, the sum total of what was left

in my mother's bank account from her stay in a nursing facility.

 

But I'm very far from reaching a definite conclusion about seeing parents

in the birth chart.

 

Therese

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In Vedic astrology, and any astrology, I have nothing in my fourth house for

Jupiter to aspect, except the house itself. So, it is pretty clear cut for me,

and the Northern Indians were correct in their house correlations. As for you,

although Neptune doesn't figure in classica Vedic Astrology, Neptune and Venus

plays a strong effect on

how you make your mark in the world. Since you have Ketu in the fourth, this

means you have Rahu in the 10th. I notice you never hesitate to respond to

posts, and read them all, unlike me, with my 12th house Rahu.

LOL The basic thing I think is that there is the basic house system, but for

some, things get modified because of planetary placements. This often brings a

whole new light to the situation. For example, my Moon is in the third house.

The Moon has to do with the mother, but the third house has to do with siblings.

The Hindus say the 11th house is for the eldest sibling, which I am not. In

fact, I am the youngest of two children. So, things get

screwy when dealing with the human element. liberator_9

 

 

 

 

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Therese Hamilton <eastwest

 

Monday, January 12, 2009 2:18:07 PM

Parents

 

 

At 11:25 AM 1/12/09 -0800, Stepehn wrote:

>I am not sure, Sari, My father, of blessed memory, was killed in a car

crash a couple of months before my ninth birthday. In Vedic Astrology, the

Sun signifies the father. The Sun rules my tenth house(Leo), but is located

in my eighth house, traditionally the house of death. Saturn,

retrograde, ruling my fourth house(Aquarius) , is located in my first

house(Scorpio) . My mom was very restrictive of me while growing up, and

still tries to play authoritarian games with me.

 

Hi Stephen,

 

I believe the Jyotish way of looking at the parents is to tell us something

about their lives and social standing. The modern tropical way is to tell

us how the parents affected our lives in the personal sense. Also in

Hellenistic astrology the lots of the parents and dispositors were said to

describe the parents.

 

If the astrology of the parents was clear, astrologers would have solved

this problem long ago. We also have planets in the 4th/10th to complicate

the matter. Also planets in the 4th or 10th aspect the opposite house. Just

another astrological puzzle.

 

In my case with Neptune and Venus in the 10th (equal house), this does

describe my mother. She was a homemaker (Venus) whose entire life was built

on a very strong spiritual foundation (Neptune). My parents basically had

nothing except their small home (Ketu in 4th alone--when you could build an

entire pre-fab house for $5000), and my father wasn't successful from the

worldly sense as he held a number of non-prestigious jobs throughout his

life, not always being employed. They left no inheritance except a few

hundred dollars to each of their children, the sum total of what was left

in my mother's bank account from her stay in a nursing facility.

 

But I'm very far from reaching a definite conclusion about seeing parents

in the birth chart.

 

Therese

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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