Sidereal & Tropical Zodiacs

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Hello list members.

 

One of my concerns of late has focused on the applicability of the

Sidereal and/or Tropical signs in chart work. I have not used Signs

in my astrological practice to any extent for the past 30 years--this

also seems to be true of a reasonable percentage of other sidereal

astrologers. Lately, I have revisited the subject of " signs. "

 

To facilitate this " revisiting " I have downloaded and recompiled lists

of planetary key words and have written out my own definitions of the

Sidereal Signs based on ruling and exalted planet meanings. The

result of this Sidereal Sign writing has been a collection of views

and statements that is similar to the extensive Tropical Zodiac

writings found in many books and on-line sites.

 

I am prepared to post my Sidereal Sign meanings in the files section.

Therese is also working on completing her set of Sign meanings. There

can follow a discussion on this subject.

 

My sense, after this preliminary work, is that the answer may not be

fully conclusive and persuasive based on Sign Meanings writings alone.

Therefore, it might seem more appropriate to look at the charts of

well-known personalities to see which zodiac better describes them.

 

COMPARING ZODIAC INFLUENCE IN WELL-KNOWN PERSONALITIES CHARTS

 

Accordingly, I will post a series of chart commentaries for the list

to consider and to discuss. One or a few charts may or may not be

enough to settle this age-old question. To keep the discussion tight

and on-subject, each chart commentary that I offer will focus on the

Ascendant (personality), the Sun (character) and any aspect-patterns

that complicate or enrich those two factors. I'll list the sign and

degree positions for the Ascendant and Sun positions in each zodiac.

 

I hope this helps to focus any discussions of the list members

relative to their usage and understanding of both/either zodiac. Dave

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At 03:07 PM 1/11/09 -0800, Stephen Glaser wrote:

>Even if India's astrology came from the West, it doesn't mean they copied

verbatim every interpretation from the West...

 

Of course not, but if you compare Hellenistic writings with India's old

texts, it's obvious that they have a common source. And India's oldest

text, the Yavanajataka, had a Greek source.

 

Like other cultures, India added to the basic structure and concepts of

horoscopic astrology.

 

>> Plus, there is the many yogas between planets and the shadbala

determining the strength of the planets seems to suggest they had their own

way of seeing astrology.

 

Many of these same planetaray combinations appear in westrn classical

writing. But shad bala is distinctly Indian.

 

True, there are many copy errors which is why modern translators try to

find various copies of the same text. These different copies are always

discussed in the preface of the translations. This applies to the newer

western translations of astrological texts. As far as I know, this type of

scholarly study hasn't been done with the Indian texts.

 

Therese