Hello List memmbers

[Guest guest]

Hello list members.

 

 

This is Ignacio.

 

I see no activity on the board . At least not recently-

 

My interest are Sidereal Astrology. Human Gestation . Karma . Reincarnation .

 

I work with a Solar System Simulator. I observe the phenomena striped of the

charting conventions that have arrived from western tradition. My back ground is

astronomical. not astrological. I include a science of the spirit in my back

ground as well.

 

I Joined to seek opinions and independent verification for research that I am

conducting. I hope I can interest some of you in these matters. I am a

researcher, not a consulting astrologer. I call my self a Siderealist. My work

is Astrometric, not astrologic. I do not venture to interpret the results of my

observations symbolically. at least not in public. I seek to establish imperial

evidence for the synchrony between sidereal phenomena and individual human

lives. I concentrate on conjunctions and oppositions.

 

The fundamental principle behind my search is that each lunation during the

Human gestation corresponds to seven years of that individuals lifespan. It is a

principle that was discovered by a little known astrologer named Willy Sucher.

It is a form of progression, at least it can be thought of in those terms.

Karmic events are to be identified in this way ( I have also considered

secondary progression. )

 

To achieve a proper comparison of the Gestation period to the Life span, a

conception date must be established. there is only one technique that I am aware

of for this. A reciprocity of the positions of Natal moon and ascendent, to the

positions of ascendent and moon at conception. In that order.

( Cn Asc = Nt Mo ) + ( Cn Mo = Nt Asc )

this is a theoretical approach to conception. I wonder if there are other

approaches to conception have confirmed its use through imperial observation.

 

I have attempted to be as succinct as possible. thank you for your attention.

 

Ignacio

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Ignacio and all list members,

 

Besides my other ventures in life, I'm also an astrologer and and

astropsychologist.

 

I've used various astrology methods, which the majority of the times

I've used the tropical and sidereal methods. Through trial and

error, I've found that sidereal is more accurate but not as accurate

as using astronomical data. So I have been producing charts using

sidereal but I've been adjusting them with astronomical data.

 

The point I'm getting to here is this. While using astronomical data

I still can not acquire accurate data on the nodes of the moon. JPL

doesn't place much emphasis on the nodes. Sidereal is what I've been

using to acquire moon node information because it's the most accurate

for the time being. Do you have a suggestion on where I can accurate

astronomical data on the moon nodes besides astronomy programs like

Starry Night? Thanks.

 

David

 

 

 

, ignacio cisneros

<soarniac wrote:

>

> Hello list members.

>

>

> This is Ignacio.

>

> I see no activity on the board . At least not recently-

>

> My interest are Sidereal Astrology. Human Gestation . Karma .

Reincarnation .

>

> I work with a Solar System Simulator. I observe the phenomena

striped of the charting conventions that have arrived from western

tradition. My back ground is astronomical. not astrological. I

include a science of the spirit in my back ground as well.

>

> I Joined to seek opinions and independent verification for research

that I am

> conducting. I hope I can interest some of you in these matters. I

am a researcher, not a consulting astrologer. I call my self a

Siderealist. My work is Astrometric, not astrologic. I do not venture

to interpret the results of my observations symbolically. at least

not in public. I seek to establish imperial evidence for the

synchrony between sidereal phenomena and individual human lives. I

concentrate on conjunctions and oppositions.

>

> The fundamental principle behind my search is that each lunation

during the Human gestation corresponds to seven years of that

individuals lifespan. It is a principle that was discovered by a

little known astrologer named Willy Sucher. It is a form of

progression, at least it can be thought of in those terms. Karmic

events are to be identified in this way ( I have also considered

secondary progression. )

>

> To achieve a proper comparison of the Gestation period to the Life

span, a

> conception date must be established. there is only one technique

that I am aware of for this. A reciprocity of the positions of Natal

moon and ascendent, to the positions of ascendent and moon at

conception. In that order.

> ( Cn Asc = Nt Mo ) + ( Cn Mo = Nt Asc )

> this is a theoretical approach to conception. I wonder if there are

other approaches to conception have confirmed its use through

imperial observation.

>

> I have attempted to be as succinct as possible. thank you for your

attention.

>

> Ignacio

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I only have a few moments at this time to reply. Relative to your

theory that the conception Ascendant and Moon are switched at birth, I

don't believe this is the case. Astrology just isn't that simple. I

often see the mother's Ascendant being the childs Sun or Moon, or the

father's Sun being the MC or Ascendant, or certain planetary pairs

common among family members being repeated (a square of Mars and

Jupiter may be a conjunction of Mars and Jupiter in the child's chart

for example). However, my casual observations doesn't mean that your

idea isn't valid or wouldn't be statistically important.

 

Astrology is full of fuzzy things, it seems to be more of an art form

than a mechanical model that works the same way each time. It will be

interesting to see what others have to say regarding your post. Dave

[Guest guest]

At 05:16 PM 12/17/08 -0000, David wrote:

>Hello Ignacio and all list members,

>

>Besides my other ventures in life, I'm also an astrologer and and

>astropsychologist.

>

>I've used various astrology methods, which the majority of the times

>I've used the tropical and sidereal methods. Through trial and

>error, I've found that sidereal is more accurate but not as accurate

>as using astronomical data. So I have been producing charts using

>sidereal but I've been adjusting them with astronomical data.

>

>The point I'm getting to here is this. While using astronomical data

>I still can not acquire accurate data on the nodes of the moon. JPL

>doesn't place much emphasis on the nodes. Sidereal is what I've been

>using to acquire moon node information because it's the most accurate

>for the time being. Do you have a suggestion on where I can accurate

>astronomical data on the moon nodes besides astronomy programs like

>Starry Night? Thanks.

--------------------------

 

Hi David,

 

We know that neither the astrological mean node nor the so-called true node

is true. The authors of the Betz sidereal ephemeris (1940-2040), Martha and

Keith Betz, used a method of interpolation that they say is more accurate

than the other two methods. If you're interested, I can type what they say

about the nodes.

 

Therese

[Guest guest]

David Monroe

 

My opinion:

contact between the astrological indicator of separate individuals is a

reflection of karmic bonds forged in previous lives.

 

The fussiness in astrology may be in reality fussiness in the astrologers

observation. I have observed much fussiness in astrology. I never se fussiness

in the astronomical phenomena we take to be astrology indicators. I do see week

accounting for astronomic phenomena in astrologic considerations. this is

epitomized in the deviation from the sidereal realm that is known as tropical

astrology.

 

Astrology is not simple. there are many variables and combinations that need to

be accounted for. observation of human phenomena and behavior is complicated by

its subtleties and its invisible, spiritual character.

 

 

does anybody know of any source that treats conception and heliocentric

astrology. or karma and heliocentric chart?

 

IAC

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

David Monroe <dadsnook

 

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:47:18 PM

Re: Hello List memmbers

 

 

I only have a few moments at this time to reply. Relative to your

theory that the conception Ascendant and Moon are switched at birth, I

don't believe this is the case. Astrology just isn't that simple. I

often see the mother's Ascendant being the childs Sun or Moon, or the

father's Sun being the MC or Ascendant, or certain planetary pairs

common among family members being repeated (a square of Mars and

Jupiter may be a conjunction of Mars and Jupiter in the child's chart

for example). However, my casual observations doesn't mean that your

idea isn't valid or wouldn't be statistically important.

 

Astrology is full of fuzzy things, it seems to be more of an art form

than a mechanical model that works the same way each time. It will be

interesting to see what others have to say regarding your post. Dave