A fascinating book about the Sidereal zodiac, precession and Sirius

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Thanks, David, that seems real interesting.

 

liberator_9

 

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, David Monroe <dadsnook wrote:

 

David Monroe <dadsnook

A fascinating book about the Sidereal zodiac,

precession and Sirius

 

Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 7:03 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have posted this message on a couple of other web-sites involved

with Sidereal astrological practices. In my conversations with

Therese, she suggested that I also place it here.

 

I've just done one quick pass through the book, " Lost Star of Myth and

Time. " It is very thought-provoking. The claims made in this book

are not the sole work and thought of a single author, but are the

growing consensus of very many astronomers and physicists and

archeologists. For me, the book seems to address two general

categories: First, that the Earth actually is in a binary

relationship with another star, and second, that archeology has now

pushed back history to some 60 thousand years and has found

information that backs a cycle of the ages that coincides with the

precession of the equinoxes.

 

Let's briefly review a few points to see if there is any interest in

following up with a more general discussion.

 

** Our Sun is in a binary relationship with a Star, probably Sirius,

although there is some likelyhood that there is also a brown dwarf

that is in company with Sirius and its companion white dwarf star.

Sirius is a double star but there is historical records indicating

that it is three stars. Whether two or three stars, Sirius seems to

be our companion star.

 

** Sirius is not a fixed star! Sirius moves across the star field.

There are one or two others that also have a proper motion, Procyon as

an example. In ancient times, Sirius used to be a red star. Now it is

a blue star. " Redshift " indicates a star moving away from us, while a

blueshift indicates a star moving toward us. Two stars that are

moving in sync with each other, and having an eliptical orbit with one

common focus point, will exhibit this phenomena to each other.

 

** The precession of the Earth orbit/axis relative to the stars seems

not to be due to our planet's axis wobble. Scientists cannot find the

math that says that precession is cause by the axis wobble. The math

is apparently quite clear when a binary orbiting model is used. In any

case, the binary orbit gives us a 24,000 plus year precession cycle.

Not only that, precession is accelerating as we move closer together

in our orbits.

 

** Sirius does have a clear electromagnetic impact on Earth, even

though it is 8.6 light years away. Every 50 years when its white

dwarf companion passes in front of Sirius (from our point of view) all

kinds of crazy things happen across measurable electromagnetic

spectrums -- some factors increase by ratios of a 1000 or more.

 

** Archeologists have linked the golden, silver, bronze and iron ages

to this cycle. The cycle indicates that we have emerged from the iron

age (dark ages) and are well upon our way into an enlightened age

where much progress will occur.

 

I intend to read this book again more slowly and to start to better

understand each of the many related factors spanning astronomy,

astrology, archeology, history, physics, etc. This book is one of the

better reads I've had in a long time. Not only that, there are

numbers of related websites and search findings on all of the topics

included in this book.

 

If there are others who are interested in this topical area, or who

already know about portions or all of this, please respond. Dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sounds very interesting to me, thanks

Lhynn

 

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--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Stephen Glaser <liberator_9 wrote:

 

Stephen Glaser <liberator_9

Re: A fascinating book about the Sidereal zodiac,

precession and Sirius

 

Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 7:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, David, that seems real interesting.

 

liberator_9

 

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, David Monroe <dadsnook (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

 

David Monroe <dadsnook (AT) charter (DOT) net>

A fascinating book about the Sidereal zodiac,

precession and Sirius

 

Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 7:03 PM

 

I have posted this message on a couple of other web-sites involved

with Sidereal astrological practices. In my conversations with

Therese, she suggested that I also place it here.

 

I've just done one quick pass through the book, " Lost Star of Myth and

Time. " It is very thought-provoking. The claims made in this book

are not the sole work and thought of a single author, but are the

growing consensus of very many astronomers and physicists and

archeologists. For me, the book seems to address two general

categories: First, that the Earth actually is in a binary

relationship with another star, and second, that archeology has now

pushed back history to some 60 thousand years and has found

information that backs a cycle of the ages that coincides with the

precession of the equinoxes.

 

Let's briefly review a few points to see if there is any interest in

following up with a more general discussion.

 

** Our Sun is in a binary relationship with a Star, probably Sirius,

although there is some likelyhood that there is also a brown dwarf

that is in company with Sirius and its companion white dwarf star.

Sirius is a double star but there is historical records indicating

that it is three stars. Whether two or three stars, Sirius seems to

be our companion star.

 

** Sirius is not a fixed star! Sirius moves across the star field.

There are one or two others that also have a proper motion, Procyon as

an example. In ancient times, Sirius used to be a red star. Now it is

a blue star. " Redshift " indicates a star moving away from us, while a

blueshift indicates a star moving toward us. Two stars that are

moving in sync with each other, and having an eliptical orbit with one

common focus point, will exhibit this phenomena to each other.

 

** The precession of the Earth orbit/axis relative to the stars seems

not to be due to our planet's axis wobble. Scientists cannot find the

math that says that precession is cause by the axis wobble. The math

is apparently quite clear when a binary orbiting model is used. In any

case, the binary orbit gives us a 24,000 plus year precession cycle.

Not only that, precession is accelerating as we move closer together

in our orbits.

 

** Sirius does have a clear electromagnetic impact on Earth, even

though it is 8.6 light years away. Every 50 years when its white

dwarf companion passes in front of Sirius (from our point of view) all

kinds of crazy things happen across measurable electromagnetic

spectrums -- some factors increase by ratios of a 1000 or more.

 

** Archeologists have linked the golden, silver, bronze and iron ages

to this cycle. The cycle indicates that we have emerged from the iron

age (dark ages) and are well upon our way into an enlightened age

where much progress will occur.

 

I intend to read this book again more slowly and to start to better

understand each of the many related factors spanning astronomy,

astrology, archeology, history, physics, etc. This book is one of the

better reads I've had in a long time. Not only that, there are

numbers of related websites and search findings on all of the topics

included in this book.

 

If there are others who are interested in this topical area, or who

already know about portions or all of this, please respond. Dave

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

 

I'm definitely interested in these fascinating ideas, and have just ordered

the book from Amazon. Free shipping, so it probably won't arrive for at

least a week. After I've spent time with the book I'd like to discuss these

ideas more.

 

I hope Julia Cybele is reading your post, because she has looked into the

importance of Arcturus in relation to the zodiac, but I don't even know if

Arcturus is a possible candidate as a binary twin for our Sun. The author

has apparently isolated Sirius for that role. I hope to have more of a

mathematical understanding of precession after I read the book.

 

The concept of four ages (or eight, four each for ascending and descending)

is a common component of Indian thought and Vedic teaching.

 

The most fascinating idea for me is that scientists cannot find the math in

the earth's wobble to account for precession. Can't wait to read the book!

 

Best,

Therese

 

At 12:03 AM 10/22/08 -0000, you wrote:

>I have posted this message on a couple of other web-sites involved

>with Sidereal astrological practices. In my conversations with

>Therese, she suggested that I also place it here.

>

>I've just done one quick pass through the book, " Lost Star of Myth and

>Time. " It is very thought-provoking. The claims made in this book

>are not the sole work and thought of a single author, but are the

>growing consensus of very many astronomers and physicists and

>archeologists. For me, the book seems to address two general

>categories: First, that the Earth actually is in a binary

>relationship with another star, and second, that archeology has now

>pushed back history to some 60 thousand years and has found

>information that backs a cycle of the ages that coincides with the

>precession of the equinoxes.

>

>Let's briefly review a few points to see if there is any interest in

>following up with a more general discussion.

>

>** Our Sun is in a binary relationship with a Star, probably Sirius,

>although there is some likelyhood that there is also a brown dwarf

>that is in company with Sirius and its companion white dwarf star.

>Sirius is a double star but there is historical records indicating

>that it is three stars. Whether two or three stars, Sirius seems to

>be our companion star.

>

>** Sirius is not a fixed star! Sirius moves across the star field.

>There are one or two others that also have a proper motion, Procyon as

>an example. In ancient times, Sirius used to be a red star. Now it is

>a blue star. " Redshift " indicates a star moving away from us, while a

>blueshift indicates a star moving toward us. Two stars that are

>moving in sync with each other, and having an eliptical orbit with one

>common focus point, will exhibit this phenomena to each other.

>

>** The precession of the Earth orbit/axis relative to the stars seems

>not to be due to our planet's axis wobble. Scientists cannot find the

>math that says that precession is cause by the axis wobble. The math

>is apparently quite clear when a binary orbiting model is used. In any

>case, the binary orbit gives us a 24,000 plus year precession cycle.

>Not only that, precession is accelerating as we move closer together

>in our orbits.

>

>** Sirius does have a clear electromagnetic impact on Earth, even

>though it is 8.6 light years away. Every 50 years when its white

>dwarf companion passes in front of Sirius (from our point of view) all

>kinds of crazy things happen across measurable electromagnetic

>spectrums -- some factors increase by ratios of a 1000 or more.

>

>** Archeologists have linked the golden, silver, bronze and iron ages

>to this cycle. The cycle indicates that we have emerged from the iron

>age (dark ages) and are well upon our way into an enlightened age

>where much progress will occur.

>

>I intend to read this book again more slowly and to start to better

>understand each of the many related factors spanning astronomy,

>astrology, archeology, history, physics, etc. This book is one of the

>better reads I've had in a long time. Not only that, there are

>numbers of related websites and search findings on all of the topics

>included in this book.

>

>If there are others who are interested in this topical area, or who

>already know about portions or all of this, please respond. Dave

>

>

>

>

>

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, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest wrote:

 

> I hope Julia Cybele is reading your post, because she has

looked into the

> importance of Arcturus in relation to the zodiac, but I

don't even know if

> Arcturus is a possible candidate as a binary twin for our

Sun. The author

> has apparently isolated Sirius for that role....

 

Oh yes, I do still follow the posts here and have often

wondered about the possibility of a binary companion for our

Sun. Arcturus is nearly 37 light-years from us, and my

impression is that this distance would be huge for a genuine

orbital system, meaning several orders of magnitude. The

force of attraction between two orbiting bodies diminishes

with the square of the distance.

 

Most of the orbital periods for catalogued binaries are much

shorter than our platonic year; the largest one I could find

was an estimated 3600 years for Alpha Herculis. Anyway, if I

understand it correctly, the precession seems purely a

wobble of the earth's axis and not of the solar system as a

whole. Maybe the causes are more internal than related to an

undiscovered binary companion of the sun... but who knows?

 

Arcturus was interesting to consider because of Cayce's

mention of it, and there is an ununsual amount of proper

motion, mostly perpendicular to the ecliptic plane. From the

standpoint of ecliptic coordinates, its longitudinal

position is about as stable as that of Spica, though it

seems hard to consider Arcturus as a fiducial star when it

is so distant from the ecliptic. I've been interested in

identifying low proper motion stars nearly on the ecliptic,

which could serve as reasonably good measuring points over

long spans of time. There are a few, in fact.

 

Lately I've been setting up a better model to study all the

1000+ stars catalogued by Claudius Ptolemy to get a better

figure for his presumed or effective zero-point. It's rather

different from any used by the Babylonians, whose work he

must have examined. That's a bit puzzling. Some sources

claim that Ptolemy simply added 160 arcmin to longitudes

given by Hipparchos, which is in turn inconsistent with

other claims that Hipparchos used a zero point near Zeta

Piscium. Finding sources closer to " original " might resolve

that... well, that's why I love to keep an eye on the

comments expressed here.