Palin/USA Offering hope

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At 09:32 AM 9/4/08 -0700, Stephen wrote:

>That is too bad. Have you done similar chart comparisons between Obama and

Biden?

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Stephen, although Palin has a very active solar return this year, I haven't

studied it enough to determine if it shows a clear victory. And we can

always hope that McCain's birth time is wrong, which would negate the

return charts. But Obama's charts don't look so good, although his natal

Saturn (ascendent lord) is on the inaugural M.C., and inaugural Moon is on

his natal M.C. That looks good, doesn't it??!! Two exact and personal

contacts.

 

I'd say that using the inaugural chart we could make a case for both

candidates winning.

 

It's really difficult to decide using psychological astrology. So the fact

that Obama's SR Saturn on cusp 7 is squaring natal Moon at the nadir could

be intepreted as a lot of responsibility. But traditional astrology would

say that an angular Saturn indicates defeat. There's so much more research

we have to do. This is why if you take all astrologers together, they'd

only come out at chance or below chance in correct predictions. Even the

best can miss--meaning an astrologer can have a great predictive track

record, but still miss on the next one.

 

I find it difficult to use only transits to event charts to guess at a

winner because it seems that there are usually contacts to all the

candidates' charts. I'd say though that the exact inaugural contacts to

Obama's chart go against what the solar returns seem to say. So there's hope!!

 

Therese

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, it is almost as if Obama is running against Palin, not McCain. I think

that it is also important to compare Palin's chart with Biden's, because during

the debates, she will be up against him, not Obama. Either Biden might win the

debate, but lose the war, if he is seen to be bullying her; or Obama could try

to rein Biden in so the latter won't be seen as a bully. If that happens, Palin

could go baracuda had try to devour Biden, causing Biden to swing from attack

dog to " nice guy " and back again. But, then Biden does have a LOT of experience,

so I am rather sure he is aware of these issues. By the way, what is your web

site's URL?

 

liberator_9

 

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

 

Therese Hamilton <eastwest

Re: Palin/USA Offering hope

 

Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:53 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 09:32 AM 9/4/08 -0700, Stephen wrote:

>That is too bad. Have you done similar chart comparisons between Obama and

Biden?

------------ --------- ----

 

Stephen, although Palin has a very active solar return this year, I haven't

studied it enough to determine if it shows a clear victory. And we can

always hope that McCain's birth time is wrong, which would negate the

return charts. But Obama's charts don't look so good, although his natal

Saturn (ascendent lord) is on the inaugural M.C., and inaugural Moon is on

his natal M.C. That looks good, doesn't it??!! Two exact and personal

contacts.

 

I'd say that using the inaugural chart we could make a case for both

candidates winning.

 

It's really difficult to decide using psychological astrology. So the fact

that Obama's SR Saturn on cusp 7 is squaring natal Moon at the nadir could

be intepreted as a lot of responsibility. But traditional astrology would

say that an angular Saturn indicates defeat. There's so much more research

we have to do. This is why if you take all astrologers together, they'd

only come out at chance or below chance in correct predictions. Even the

best can miss--meaning an astrologer can have a great predictive track

record, but still miss on the next one.

 

I find it difficult to use only transits to event charts to guess at a

winner because it seems that there are usually contacts to all the

candidates' charts. I'd say though that the exact inaugural contacts to

Obama's chart go against what the solar returns seem to say. So there's hope!!

 

Therese

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

At 11:44 AM 9/4/08 -0700, Stephen wrote:

>Hmmm, it is almost as if Obama is running against Palin, not McCain. I

think that it is also important to compare Palin's chart with Biden's,

because during the debates, she will be up against him, not Obama.

 

Stephen, do you have the dates of the debates? I admit I have a hard time

seeing Palin being able to stand up in a debate due to her lack of

experience unless she somehow turns the debate to topics she's comfortable

with.

 

>... By the way, what is your web site's URL?

 

http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

 

I haven't yet completed an article on Biden/Palin/Obama. There's only the

McCain article on my site.

 

Therese

[Guest guest]

liberator_9

 

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

 

Therese Hamilton <eastwest

Re: Palin/USA Offering hope

 

Thursday, September 4, 2008, 2:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 11:44 AM 9/4/08 -0700, Stephen wrote:

>Hmmm, it is almost as if Obama is running against Palin, not McCain. I

think that it is also important to compare Palin's chart with Biden's,

because during the debates, she will be up against him, not Obama.

 

Stephen, do you have the dates of the debates? I admit I have a hard time

seeing Palin being able to stand up in a debate due to her lack of

experience unless she somehow turns the debate to topics she's comfortable

with.

 

I don't have any dates for the debates. I don't know if they have been fully

decided. In a fair debate, Biden should win handily. However, when it comes to

campaigns and debates, so far, the Repubs. have always been shrewed like Eddie

Haskell against the Dems' Beaver Cleaver.

 

>... By the way, what is your web site's URL?

 

http://users. snowcrest. net/sunrise/ LostZodiac. htm

 

I haven't yet completed an article on Biden/Palin/ Obama. There's only the

McCain article on my site.

 

Oh, yes, I know you haven't finished. I wasn't trying to rush you.

 

 

 

Stephen