Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Palin's birth time: I'm in the habit of casting the USA (July 4, 1776) solar return for election years. I just received a shock: For the 4:40 p.m. birth time for Palin, her natal ascendant is in the degree of this year's USA Ketu/true south node--north node is with transiting Neptune/Palin's Sun, of course. Scary. For those who use the nodes in a karmic way, definiely a tie of destiny. If this chart is accurate, it wasn't an accident that McCain picked Palin. I use a birth time for the USA chart that's not very popular except with some Jyotish astrologers. But the south node would be the same in any chart for the day. The sidereal Lahiri/Krishnamurti degree for Ketu/Palin 4:40 ascendant is 26 Cancer. Due to precession, the tropical line-up would be a little different. Sidereal Krishnamurti: USA true SR Ketu: 26 Cancer 26 Palin ascendent: 26 Cancer 19 Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Does this mean that Palin has, as Hindus would say, the Shakti to put McCain over the top, whether it would be good for the United States, or not? liberator_9 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote: Therese Hamilton <eastwest Palin/USA futureastro Cc: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 1:11 PM Re: Palin's birth time: I'm in the habit of casting the USA (July 4, 1776) solar return for election years. I just received a shock: For the 4:40 p.m. birth time for Palin, her natal ascendant is in the degree of this year's USA Ketu/true south node--north node is with transiting Neptune/Palin' s Sun, of course. Scary. For those who use the nodes in a karmic way, definiely a tie of destiny. If this chart is accurate, it wasn't an accident that McCain picked Palin. I use a birth time for the USA chart that's not very popular except with some Jyotish astrologers. But the south node would be the same in any chart for the day. The sidereal Lahiri/Krishnamurti degree for Ketu/Palin 4:40 ascendant is 26 Cancer. Due to precession, the tropical line-up would be a little different. Sidereal Krishnamurti: USA true SR Ketu: 26 Cancer 26 Palin ascendent: 26 Cancer 19 Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 At 12:56 PM 9/3/08 -0700, Stephen wrote: >Does this mean that Palin has, as Hindus would say, the Shakti to put McCain over the top, whether it would be good for the United States, or not? --------------------------- Based on his solar return for a time around 9:00 a.m., McCain has enough to put himself over the top. But if 4:40 p.m. is correct for Palin's birth chart, she has a karmic connection with the U.S. She also has karmic ties with McCain. In her navamsa chart Ketu, Venus and Sun are in Virgo, sign of McCain's ascendant and ascendant lord. Her natal Jupiter is only one navamsa degree (7 natal minutes) away from his navamsa Mercury in Pisces. His navamsa Sun is on her 4:40 p.m. ascendant. At this time I don't consider the 11:00 a.m. time valid. There are all kinds of navamsa contacts between the charts. Here's another one: Palin's natal Rahu: 17 Gemini; McCain's navamsa Rahu: 17 Gemini. He may have just met her once in this lifetime, but they're old friends from the past. (What kind of friends depends on how you look at it...) Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 That is too bad. Have you done similar chart comparison's between Obama and Biden? liberator_9 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote: Therese Hamilton <eastwest Re: Palin/USA Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 5:37 PM At 12:56 PM 9/3/08 -0700, Stephen wrote: >Does this mean that Palin has, as Hindus would say, the Shakti to put McCain over the top, whether it would be good for the United States, or not? ------------ --------- ------ Based on his solar return for a time around 9:00 a.m., McCain has enough to put himself over the top. But if 4:40 p.m. is correct for Palin's birth chart, she has a karmic connection with the U.S. She also has karmic ties with McCain. In her navamsa chart Ketu, Venus and Sun are in Virgo, sign of McCain's ascendant and ascendant lord. Her natal Jupiter is only one navamsa degree (7 natal minutes) away from his navamsa Mercury in Pisces. His navamsa Sun is on her 4:40 p.m. ascendant. At this time I don't consider the 11:00 a.m. time valid. There are all kinds of navamsa contacts between the charts. Here's another one: Palin's natal Rahu: 17 Gemini; McCain's navamsa Rahu: 17 Gemini. He may have just met her once in this lifetime, but they're old friends from the past. (What kind of friends depends on how you look at it...) Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 At 09:32 AM 9/4/08 -0700, Stephen wrote: >That is too bad. Have you done similar chart comparisons between Obama and Biden? ------------------------------- Oh, yes. I'll soon have a very detailed article on my web site. I've studied all the cyclic charts--SRs, lunars and enneads. No progressions or other esoteric tropical techniques. I'm quite confident that Palin's 4:40 p.m. time is correct. Well...I've only had time to look at her solar return--have to check her lunar and ennead charts. But her acceptance Moon last evening is only a degree from conjoining her birth place 2008 SR ascendant. That's pretty impressive or a weird coincidence if the time is wrong. Here's the latest on Palin's time of birth. It's checking out well. At the end of this post is my commntary posted on the Political astrology forum this evening. Here's a summary of the latest on Palin's birth time: --------------------------- http://www.noeltyl.com/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config.pl?read=183244 Palin's AA Rated Birth Chart Posted By: Halina Wednesday, 3 September 2008, at 8:17 a.m. In Response The 4:40pm Birth Chart (Halina) Sally McDonald at Astrowold has posted a 4:40 pm time that came from Claudia Dikinis, a friend of Sarah Palin's, via Margie Herskovitz from NCGR. A Leo Ascendant, and the 4:40pm time does have Leo rising with a Moon in Aquarius. Sally's friend Claudia says that an AFAN newsletter reports the birth time of 4:40pm is AA (reliable). Still no word on the source, though. These " sudden revelations " about Sarah Palin speak of Uranus, and sure enough, using this chart puts trans Uranus retrograding over her progressed Midheaven. That would fit perfectly with her being picked out of nowhere and then this rapid meltdown. -------------------------------- PoliticalAstrology , <stellamapio wrote: > > Sarah Palin said " ..I accept.. " at 9:31pm CDT in St. Paul, MN. Time is from the " Live clock " on the screen of the C-Span channel... ------------------------- [Comment by Therese] This time gives some verification for the supposedly AA rating for Palin's 4:40 p.m. birth time. The [Krishnamurti] MC of this chart is less than a degree from [squaring] Palin's natal Jupiter in the 9th trine the ascendant. Moon in the acceptance chart is conjunct the 4:40 IC, Asc is with natal M.C. And here's the lineup in relation to natal Mercury-Moon: Natal Mercury: 8 Cap 22 Acceptance Moon: 9 Lib 28 Natal Moon: 10 Cap 59 Natal Fortuna: 8 Can 13 2008 SR Asc: 8 Lib 24 I don't use midpoints, but this [Mer-Moon-Moon] looks like one. Sorry about the sidereal positions, but at least it's easy to see the orbs. Therese Wed Sep 3, 2008 10:08 pm Political Astrology forum PoliticalAstrology Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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