Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 06:12:23PM -0700, Gerald Koenig wrote: This is a re-post I first wrote for my list StarSymbols which has gone unanswered, perhaps due to the absence of Sidereal astrologers there. I am asking for interpretations of sidereal lunar returns which contain the event of Barack Obama's speech to the Democratic National convention. I have two versions, based on two different birth ascendants. I am looking to find out which version better fits the event, in order to choose a birth ascendant. The actual charts given here are sidereal prenatal charts, but they will have the same ascendant as the birth charts, according to my belief system. The question I ask is, do either of these charts show the successful outcome of Obama's speech, and point to his subsequent phenomenal career development. ------------------------ Here is a sidereal Fagan-Bradley ayanamsha lunar return before his Boston DNC speech based on the Natal Scorpio rising 1:06PM chart of the late Fran McEvoy and found also by symbolic rectification by the writer: A single wheel of the lunar return: http://www.starseers.org/GRAPHICS/BarackPreDNCslr16viABQ4.png A double wheel of the root and its return: http://www.starseers.org/GRAPHICS/BarackABQ4PreDNCslr.png Another similar lunar return chart but based on the new Aquarius rising 7:24pm birth certificate chart from the Daily Kos site and rectifications by Vedic methods. A single wheel of the lunar return: http://www.starseers.org/GRAPHICS/BarackcertificatePreDNCOneWheelslr19viABQ4.png A double wheel of the root and its return: http://www.starseers.org/GRAPHICS/barackCertificatePreDNCslr.png Which speech-containing lunar return seems more fitting? The most appropriate lunar return for the successful outcome of the speech will indicate the probable ascendant for Obama's ABC and natal charts. Which lunar return chart shows the best outcome for the lunar month? This speech launched Obama's national career. Sidereal speech chart: http://www.starseers.org/GRAPHICS/BarakDNCspeech.png Data source and much more: Data source and much more: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/June-2007/The-Speech/index.php?cp=1 & s\ \ i=0#artanc Gerald Koenig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Hi there, Astro.com has provided a link to Sen. Obama's birth Certificate. It seems the 7:24PM birth time is accurate. Here is the link; http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg liberator_9 --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Gerald Koenig <glk wrote: Gerald Koenig <glk Question Re: [starsymbols] Obama's Ascendant Friday, July 18, 2008, 2:09 AM On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 06:12:23PM -0700, Gerald Koenig wrote: This is a re-post I first wrote for my list StarSymbols which has gone unanswered, perhaps due to the absence of Sidereal astrologers there. I am asking for interpretations of sidereal lunar returns which contain the event of Barack Obama's speech to the Democratic National convention. I have two versions, based on two different birth ascendants. I am looking to find out which version better fits the event, in order to choose a birth ascendant. The actual charts given here are sidereal prenatal charts, but they will have the same ascendant as the birth charts, according to my belief system. The question I ask is, do either of these charts show the successful outcome of Obama's speech, and point to his subsequent phenomenal career development. ------------ --------- --- Here is a sidereal Fagan-Bradley ayanamsha lunar return before his Boston DNC speech based on the Natal Scorpio rising 1:06PM chart of the late Fran McEvoy and found also by symbolic rectification by the writer: A single wheel of the lunar return: http://www.starseer s.org/GRAPHICS/ BarackPreDNCslr1 6viABQ4.png A double wheel of the root and its return: http://www.starseer s.org/GRAPHICS/ BarackABQ4PreDNC slr.png Another similar lunar return chart but based on the new Aquarius rising 7:24pm birth certificate chart from the Daily Kos site and rectifications by Vedic methods. A single wheel of the lunar return: http://www.starseer s.org/GRAPHICS/ Barackcertificat ePreDNCOneWheels lr19viABQ4. png A double wheel of the root and its return: http://www.starseer s.org/GRAPHICS/ barackCertificat ePreDNCslr. png Which speech-containing lunar return seems more fitting? The most appropriate lunar return for the successful outcome of the speech will indicate the probable ascendant for Obama's ABC and natal charts. Which lunar return chart shows the best outcome for the lunar month? This speech launched Obama's national career. Sidereal speech chart: http://www.starseer s.org/GRAPHICS/ BarakDNCspeech. png Data source and much more: Data source and much more: http://www.chicagom ag.com/Chicago- Magazine/ June-2007/ The-Speech/ index.php? cp=1 & s\ i=0#artanc Gerald Koenig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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