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Hi everyone,

 

From UAC from someone who apparently was able to obtain Obama's birth

certificate as posted on the Judy Johns Political Astrology forum. Aug 4,

1961 7:11 p.m. Honolulu, AHST.

 

I'll pass on the story after it's posted on the Political Astro forum.

 

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Hi Therese,

Thanks for sharing this great information. BTW if I remember correctly,

you had been leaning to predict a win for Hillary in the primaries. In

the light of recent events is there some update.

 

It struck me that the latest round of 'dust up' between Obama, Mccain

and Bush comes as Tr Mars conjuncts Obama's natal Merc. which opposes

his Jup conj. Saturn. Normally he is not that bellicose. He seemed to

show some emotion in this one which one doesn't see in this exalted moon

cool man. But I suspect that ketu moving into his Sun sign house seems

to make his delivery flat lately.

 

Just some random observations.

 

Cheers

Shiv

 

 

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> From UAC from someone who apparently was able to obtain Obama's birth

> certificate as posted on the Judy Johns Political Astrology forum. Aug

4,

> 1961 7:11 p.m. Honolulu, AHST.

>

> I'll pass on the story after it's posted on the Political Astro forum.

>

> Therese

>

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At 04:18 AM 5/17/08 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi Therese,

>Thanks for sharing this great information. BTW if I remember correctly,

>you had been leaning to predict a win for Hillary in the primaries. In

>the light of recent events is there some update.

 

No, I've been saying that McCain has the best election setup. I just

submitted an article on McCain to the NCGR Memberletter. I never predicted

Hillary, not that I remember anyway. It was Chris who predicted Hillary. I

thought the older Obama chart wasn't bad, but if this new time is correct

he won't be winning any election. I also thought that Obama had the best

campaign chart.

 

No, not Hillary. Her next solar return has transiting Ketu on the ascendant

conjoining her natal Mars in 10th. I said there might be some kind of

trouble for or with her partner (Bill) because for the morning birth time

Mars is her 7th lord.

 

Therese

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Therese,

I have to ascribe that to my incorrect recollection. My apologies.

Best

Shiv

 

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest wrote:

>

> At 04:18 AM 5/17/08 -0000, you wrote:

> >Hi Therese,

> >Thanks for sharing this great information. BTW if I remember correctly,

> >you had been leaning to predict a win for Hillary in the primaries. In

> >the light of recent events is there some update.

>

> No, I've been saying that McCain has the best election setup. I just

> submitted an article on McCain to the NCGR Memberletter. I never

predicted

> Hillary, not that I remember anyway. It was Chris who predicted

Hillary. I

> thought the older Obama chart wasn't bad, but if this new time is

correct

> he won't be winning any election. I also thought that Obama had the best

> campaign chart.

>

> No, not Hillary. Her next solar return has transiting Ketu on the

ascendant

> conjoining her natal Mars in 10th. I said there might be some kind of

> trouble for or with her partner (Bill) because for the morning birth

time

> Mars is her 7th lord.

>

> Therese

>

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