Evolutionary astrology

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At 06:14 PM 3/18/08 -0700, Felicia wrote:

>Hi Sari,

>

> Thanks for the explanation of how Venus can contribute to my love for

learning, stimulation, and fun.

>

> Curiously, though, even with a Libra Asc and Venus conj Desc, I am not a

social butterfly. In fact, I hate parties and social (only) events,

prefering to spend time with friends on a one-on-one basis...

 

Hi Sari and Felicia,

 

So many posts to reply to...I'm way behind! Anyhow, Felicia, the Libra

mansion where your Neptune is rather heavy. What you said above applies

exactly to me (Sun-Moon in Libra). I'll find some quotes later--no time

now. But Venus is really a one-to-one planet, and sidereal Libra isn't

especially social. It's serious and tends to be private and melancholy (the

exaltation of Saturn). My life is exactly like yours in that:

 

>[Felicia:] I have a few good, close relationships with friends,

co-workers, family members, but most of them don't know each other. I just

seem to treat my relationships in a compartimentalized way.

>

> I can be totally unsociable in group or social situations. My

interactions usually serve some purpose other than just being social,

usually having something interesting to share, discuss, or to be of comfort

to each other, or to learn and help each other.

>

>I have a strong feeling that when I walk among the crowd, I am not

noticeable at all!

 

Oh, that is so true of me with Neptune-Venus at the zenith square the

ascendant. I call myself the invisible person. This must be because Neptune

is only half-time on the earth!

 

> However, if there is reason for me and another person to meet up, whether

at work, at the store, at the doctor, etc., people tend to find me pleasant

and even charming.

 

This would be Venus. Venus usually tries to be pleasant and charming, but

it's not a planet that's happy in a crowded boisterous gathering. That

would be Jupiter.

 

> I also have a great love for humour, good, clean, real-life humour. I

don't know where that shows up in my chart, but it's another important part

of the child within me.

 

You do have Jupiter on your navamsa ascendant, though I think Mercury is

supposed to have a lot to do with humor. Mercury is closely square your Moon.

 

Therese

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At 09:14 AM 3/18/08 -0700, Felicia wrote:

>

> Seriously, there is an eternal child within me that I cherish.

 

This is sidereal Gemini, Felicia. It's a sign that relates very well to

chidren because of an interest in learning, learning and expanding the

horizons. (Ruler is Mercury). Remember this is tropical Cancer's area of

the ecliptic, and this sign definitely can love dealing with children--or

has to be with children due to circumstances. Sidereal Gemini loves the

growing/learning process. Thus the sign is often related to

gardening--watching little plants grow and flower in adulthood.

 

The 5th is your own children. Siblings come under the 3rd house--this from

way, way back. Jyotish would say many planets in the 5th can be many

children of your own. With Indian equal house you have only one planet in

5th--Mars. Dispositor Neptune is on the ascendant, making that one child

very important in your life.

 

> Now I see that sidereally, that stellium has moved to the 6th house!

Does that mean there is no fun side of me from the Jyotish perspective?

 

No. All it means is that you don't have so many children of your own, and

you have to work. Nothing about fun or no fun. That's tropical. With Mars

in the 5th, however, being a separative planet, later on your daughter

might be moving some distance away. Or there might be periods of separation

due to any number of causes.

 

Therese

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At 09:26 PM 3/19/08 -0800, Therese wrote:

>>[sari wrote:] Both your ascendant and moon are in airy signs, and if we

believe

>>ancient Western astrologers (like I usually do), then air is a warm and

>>moist and sanguine element: sensitive, kind, social, getting easily

excited,

>>etc.

>

>Sari, what ancient astrologers? How far back?

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Sari, you don't have to reply to that question. I'm **very** tired tonight

and sort of jumped into the frey. I'll read up on this topic and get back

to it in a day or two or three. It's all in Greenbam's thoroughly

researched book. Sorry about my hastiness.

 

But sidereal air isn't sanguine. We need definitions and then examples from

ADB.

 

Therese