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Hi, all,

 

I do feel that Sidereal is more accurate, at least for my chart, but

it is much easier to work in Tropical because there are so many

books and report writers that are written in that vein.

 

That said, I am still working on the problems of chart Relocation

and which House System to use. I don't see how these subjects can be

different for Sidereal or Tropical, do you? (Or am I just

resurrecting a perennial question/problem that nobody wants to talk

about any more?)

 

For instance, if a person has resided in one location for a long

period of time, shouldn't their Asc and MC (etc.) have

been " relocated " to that locale? What then should that period of

time be--a month, six months, a year?

 

And now to Houses. Shouldn't there be only one House System used,

and which one? Equal House? Campanus? Placidus?

 

I don't know. It seems the more I try to work in

Sidereal/Constellational undecided questions like these seem to come

to my attention. It's like I'm working with 3 variables all the

time, and the more unsure or indecisive I become. And the more

tempting to stay in Tropical, where more things seem to have

been " decided " .

 

Any guidance or solace? #8^(

 

DR

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, " Don Ridgway " <scribe

wrote: (snip) I am still working on the problems of chart Relocation

> and which House System to use. I don't see how these subjects can be

> different for Sidereal or Tropical, do you? For instance, if a

person has resided in one location for a long period of time,

shouldn't their Asc and MC (etc.) have been " relocated " to that

locale? What then should that period of time be--a month, six months,

a year?

>

> And now to Houses. Shouldn't there be only one House System used,

> and which one? Equal House? Campanus? Placidus?

>

REPLY:

You may get as many different answers as the number of different

astrologers reply to you. Unless someone move some distance from

their birth location I do not relocate the chart. If someone has

moved a few hundred miles away I'll ask how long they have lived there

and if they identify with that place as being " home. "

 

If they are transitory in nature, moving every year or two because of

their work, etc., their birth location will likely remain effective

for them. If they have been there for a year or more and if they see

that place as home and like it there, I'll relocate their chart. In

some cases, the birth place remain operative, in other cases, not.

I've recently had a chart of a Switzerland native that kept moving

around the world -- but Switzerland remained the effective place for

her chart's orientation even though its been 20+ years since residing

there.

 

As for houses, I use them for natal charts but not for Solar Returns

or other Sidereal-type charts -- I just use the angles. If I'm doing

a special type of chart I may change house systems:

** Equal house for when examining the cycles of outer planet pairs

from their conjunction point.

** Campanus for natal charts when I wish to work with Sidereal charts.

** Placidus for natal charts when working with strictly Tropical

charts because it provides distortion of signs relative to the Aries

point which is helpful to see in the seasonal zodiac.

 

Some groups of houses are better for some types of charts then others

because of the method of dividing semi-arcs and projecting them onto

the ecliptic. But, if you ask, you'll find a lot of different

reasoning behind the many answers you'll get. That's why I just use

the angles -- no houses, no problems, no contradictions, no confusion.

 

As for Report Writers, they will use what ever signs the see in a

chart. So, if you do a Sidereal chart they'll see the Sidereal sign

and not the Tropical sign -- they will construct their report using

the sign they see. Most report writer programs will permit you to

alter, and save under a name, the written text so that it reflects

what you want to say. A bit of work, but a relatively easy solution.

Dave

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Hi, Dave,

Great answers! Lots to think about. Thanks!

DR

 

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dadsnook2000

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:26 PM

Re: Relocation and Houses

 

 

, " Don Ridgway " <scribe

wrote: (snip) I am still working on the problems of chart Relocation

> and which House System to use. I don't see how these subjects can be

> different for Sidereal or Tropical, do you? For instance, if a

person has resided in one location for a long period of time,

shouldn't their Asc and MC (etc.) have been " relocated " to that

locale? What then should that period of time be--a month, six months,

a year?

>

> And now to Houses. Shouldn't there be only one House System used,

> and which one? Equal House? Campanus? Placidus?

>

REPLY:

You may get as many different answers as the number of different

astrologers reply to you. Unless someone move some distance from

their birth location I do not relocate the chart. If someone has

moved a few hundred miles away I'll ask how long they have lived there

and if they identify with that place as being " home. "

 

If they are transitory in nature, moving every year or two because of

their work, etc., their birth location will likely remain effective

for them. If they have been there for a year or more and if they see

that place as home and like it there, I'll relocate their chart. In

some cases, the birth place remain operative, in other cases, not.

I've recently had a chart of a Switzerland native that kept moving

around the world -- but Switzerland remained the effective place for

her chart's orientation even though its been 20+ years since residing

there.

 

As for houses, I use them for natal charts but not for Solar Returns

or other Sidereal-type charts -- I just use the angles. If I'm doing

a special type of chart I may change house systems:

** Equal house for when examining the cycles of outer planet pairs

from their conjunction point.

** Campanus for natal charts when I wish to work with Sidereal charts.

** Placidus for natal charts when working with strictly Tropical

charts because it provides distortion of signs relative to the Aries

point which is helpful to see in the seasonal zodiac.

 

Some groups of houses are better for some types of charts then others

because of the method of dividing semi-arcs and projecting them onto

the ecliptic. But, if you ask, you'll find a lot of different

reasoning behind the many answers you'll get. That's why I just use

the angles -- no houses, no problems, no contradictions, no confusion.

 

As for Report Writers, they will use what ever signs the see in a

chart. So, if you do a Sidereal chart they'll see the Sidereal sign

and not the Tropical sign -- they will construct their report using

the sign they see. Most report writer programs will permit you to

alter, and save under a name, the written text so that it reflects

what you want to say. A bit of work, but a relatively easy solution.

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

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