Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 At 10:44 PM 12/14/06 -0000, Patrice wrote: >Hi Chris! > >Exatly! All byzantines astrologers used sidereal zodiac. They are >greeks astrologers of Alexandria school of Ptolemy. > >You can read the works of historians David Pingree or Paul Magdalino >in English. All charts were sidereal until 830 AC. It's not my >invention... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrice, can you please give us the titles of books by David Pingree that discuss the zodiac question. I am not familiar with Paul Magdalino. Thank you, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 " Pingree is the US' most eminent historian of astrology. Neugebauer's successor at Brown University. He has concentrated upon Greek, Islamic, and Indian astrology. His most important work has been a series of texts and translations from Sanskrit, Arabic and Greek, often of works which have not received scholarly attention since the Renaissance. With Erica Reiner, he is slowly producing an edition of Enuma Anu Enlil. Over the years, he has published much on Picatrix, a work of Arabian and Sabian astrological magic quite important in Medieval and Renaissance Europe. Most recently he has published a text and translation of the Medieval Latin version. Its introduction promises editions of Renaissance French, English and Italian versions, as well. Quite recently, he has co-authored, with Herman Hunger, a survey, Mesopotamian Astral Sciences (1999) " . Author of: " Classical and Byzantine Astrology in Sassanian Persia " " From Alexandria to Baghdad to Byzantium. The Transmission of Astrology " Magdalino: " L'othodoxie des astrologues " (in french) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hello Patrice, Would you mind to scan (or quote) one page of Pingree book where he states sidereal zodiac was use by astrologer until the 800's century? Many thanks! ;-) -- Regards, François - Patrice Friday, December 15, 2006 4:12 AM Re: Zodiac Question (Pingree) " Pingree is the US' most eminent historian of astrology. Neugebauer's successor at Brown University. He has concentrated upon Greek, Islamic, and Indian astrology. His most important work has been a series of texts and translations from Sanskrit, Arabic and Greek, often of works which have not received scholarly attention since the Renaissance. With Erica Reiner, he is slowly producing an edition of Enuma Anu Enlil. Over the years, he has published much on Picatrix, a work of Arabian and Sabian astrological magic quite important in Medieval and Renaissance Europe. Most recently he has published a text and translation of the Medieval Latin version. Its introduction promises editions of Renaissance French, English and Italian versions, as well. Quite recently, he has co-authored, with Herman Hunger, a survey, Mesopotamian Astral Sciences (1999) " . Author of: " Classical and Byzantine Astrology in Sassanian Persia " " From Alexandria to Baghdad to Byzantium. The Transmission of Astrology " Magdalino: " L'othodoxie des astrologues " (in french) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 At 09:12 AM 12/15/06 -0000, Patrice wrote: Patrice, please give the book or article and page number of the quote below (the long quote about Pingree noted after my signature). I do own some of Pingree's translations including 'Astral Sciences in Mesopotamia' and 'Yavanajataka,' but I'm looking for the exact references you mentioned regarding the sidereal zodiac being used up to 830 CE. Where did you read that, which you said was a Pingree conclusion? The calculated charts are in what publication? You wrote: " You can read the works of historians David Pingree or Paul Magdalino >in English. All charts were sidereal until 830 AC. It's not my >invention... " Is the information in the two sources by Pingree you quoted below? Where can those articles be obtained? Were they in magazines? You gave no dates or names of publications. Anytime you attribute quotes to others, we need the full publication information. Please give the full information. Thanks. It seems that Magdalino's publications are not in English and that is why I haven't heard of him? (I am not challenging the information. I'd like to read it myself, however, and add it to my library.) Therese Patrice wrote: > > " Pingree is the US' most eminent historian of astrology. Neugebauer's >successor at Brown University. He has concentrated upon Greek, >Islamic, and Indian astrology. His most important work has been a >series of texts and translations from Sanskrit, Arabic and Greek, >often of works which have not received scholarly attention since the >Renaissance. With Erica Reiner, he is slowly producing an edition of >Enuma Anu Enlil. Over the years, he has published much on Picatrix, a >work of Arabian and Sabian astrological magic quite important in >Medieval and Renaissance Europe. Most recently he has published a text >and translation of the Medieval Latin version. Its introduction >promises editions of Renaissance French, English and Italian versions, >as well. Quite recently, he has co-authored, with Herman Hunger, a >survey, Mesopotamian Astral Sciences (1999) " . > >Author of: > > " Classical and Byzantine Astrology in Sassanian Persia " > > " From Alexandria to Baghdad to Byzantium. The Transmission of Astrology " > >Magdalino: > > " L'othodoxie des astrologues " (in french) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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