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hi

my sister looks typically Cancer ascendant,the big emotional eyes and her

obesity. But since she is Gemini in Vedic Astrolgy, is it possible sha has

thiose looks due to the Moon the ruler of cancer in house 1'

 

thanks

paulo

 

 

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At 06:31 PM 12/12/06 -0000, Paulo wrote:

 

>my sister looks typically Cancer ascendant,the big emotional eyes and her

obesity. But since she is Gemini in Vedic Astrolgy, is it possible sha has

thiose looks due to the Moon the ruler of cancer in house 1'

 

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The Moon or Venus (moist planets) aspecting the ascendant can give a

fleshy, feminine or plump appearance. The planets will always over-rule the

signs. There are also small degree areas that relate to appearance such as

a particular kind or color of eye. The fixed stars may give their energy to

those degree areas.

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No ~

 

Your emotional obese sister is merely reflecting her tropical

placements.

 

There are sidereal success stories.

There are tropical success stories.

 

Dark*Star

 

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paulo mendes wrote:

 

hi, my sister looks typically Cancer ascendant,the big emotional eyes

and her obesity. But since she is Gemini in Vedic Astrolgy, is it

possible sha has thiose looks due to the Moon the ruler of cancer in

house 1'

 

>

>

 

 

 

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Useless astrologer...

 

All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

 

An exemple of famous obese:

 

Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

 

In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

 

In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

Libra!!! LOL!!!

 

http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

 

Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

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Thanks for the interesting chart. Surprised I didn't have it. I would

judge Moon on Asc-EP with the trine of Jupiter (sugar) and the square of

Venus (indulgence) quickened by Uranus should go FAT because of Rahu to

the 6th cusp placidian. In the soul's entry chart Jupiter is found in

partile conjunction with the Dsc. which is the IC of the radix chart. So

why did you think him fat?

 

Rosalie Bradford has just died. Guiness said she held the world record

for females and was in excess of 1200 lbs. At one time she lived two

miles from my house. We lack her birthday.

 

Dark*Star

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Patrice wrote:

 

> An exemple of famous obese:

>

> Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

>

>

 

 

 

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I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

 

 

 

It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese people.

In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a chart

of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj Rahu

on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves (have

to look it up).

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Patrice

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

 

Re: my sister

 

 

 

Useless astrologer...

 

All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

 

An exemple of famous obese:

 

Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

 

In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

 

In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

Libra!!! LOL!!!

 

http://perso.

<http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

 

Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have tropical Taurus rising and am pretty large at 300 lbs. Sun in Pisces

and I have always wondered what in the chart would indicate obesity--maybe

the same things that indicate addictive behaviors or self indulgence in

general? I was born March 5, 1958, in Vivian, Louisiana, at 11:45 am. I was

skinny and ran around a whole lot until my health fell apart around age

30-32. It has been bad ever since.

Darla

 

On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria wrote:

>

> I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

>

>

>

> It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese people.

> In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a chart

> of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj

> Rahu

> on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

> whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves (have

> to look it up).

>

>

>

>

>

> Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Patrice

> Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

>

> Re: my sister

>

>

>

> Useless astrologer...

>

> All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

>

> An exemple of famous obese:

>

> Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

>

> In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

>

> In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> Libra!!! LOL!!!

>

> http://perso.

> <http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

>

> Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Bettina

 

Yes, Pluto squares the Venus near the Ascendant but Venus is in sidereal

Aquarius. (for some unfortunate reason, Houck used the tropical zodiac for

the circle charts and the south Indian chart for the sidereal zodiac so that

may be part of the confusion.) Neptune also squares it. Actually Venus

tightly squares the Pluto Neptune midpoint. His data: 29 March 1896 5.30 am

MST Florence., AZ. He died 27 May 1926.

 

Thanks Patrice for your example.

 

Chris

 

On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria wrote:

>

> I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

>

> It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese people.

> In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a chart

> of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj Rahu

> on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

> whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves (have

> to look it up).

>

> Bettina

>

> _____

>

> <%40>

>

[ <%40>\

]

> On Behalf Of Patrice

> Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

> <%40>

> Re: my sister

>

> Useless astrologer...

>

> All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

>

> An exemple of famous obese:

>

> Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

>

> In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

>

> In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> Libra!!! LOL!!!

>

> http://perso.

> <http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

>

> Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

>

>

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Darla .

 

 

 

 

 

I ran off your chart. I get 28 degrees of Sidereal Taurus rising, which

would give you approx. 21 Gemini in the Tropical. Venus rules the asc (body)

and 6th (health issues) and it's squared by Jupiter in the 6th and ruling

the 8th (a problematic house). Jupiter can have to do with excess, as can

Rahu, which it's conjunct. Also, Neptune is there (cnj Jupiter and Rahu,

square Venus), which makes me think there may be a problem with fluid

retention. The other thing I notice is the conjunction of Moon and Pluto.

I've seen that in the horoscopes of some people who are anorexic, which is

interesting, so maybe it just has to do with eating disorders in general.

I've never fully understood how Moon/Pluto cnjs work. How would you

describe yourself emotionally, or personality-wise?

 

 

 

In the navamsa (9th harmonic) you have Venus (again, asc ruler of natal

chart) and Mercury, ruler of asc in navamsa, cnj Saturn in fall, and they

all oppose Moon which makes me think that you may eat to fill an emotional

need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Darla Wells

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:26 PM

 

Re: Re: my sister

 

 

 

I have tropical Taurus rising and am pretty large at 300 lbs. Sun in Pisces

and I have always wondered what in the chart would indicate obesity--maybe

the same things that indicate addictive behaviors or self indulgence in

general? I was born March 5, 1958, in Vivian, Louisiana, at 11:45 am. I was

skinny and ran around a whole lot until my health fell apart around age

30-32. It has been bad ever since.

Darla

 

On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

<chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

>

> I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

>

>

>

> It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese people.

> In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a chart

> of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj

> Rahu

> on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

> whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves (have

> to look it up).

>

>

>

>

>

> Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

> @ <%40>

 

> [@ <%40>

] On Behalf Of Patrice

> Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

> @ <%40>

 

> Re: my sister

>

>

>

> Useless astrologer...

>

> All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

>

> An exemple of famous obese:

>

> Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

>

> In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

>

> In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> Libra!!! LOL!!!

>

> http://perso.

> <http://perso.

<http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

>

> Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Whoops. It was March 6. I see I put March 5. Emotionally I look easy going

on the outside but actually am pretty intense. I don't beat myself up with

the emotional stuff like I did when I was younger. I was anorexic as a teen

but eventually outgrew it. Excess and impulsivity used to mark my whole life

but I am lightening up as I get older. Mostly I think of food as fuel or an

artistic outlet (we are foodies here in Louisiana) and the emotional eating

is not as big a deal as when I was younger. The water retention may be

because I have some heart disease. My sixth house must be a doozy because my

health has always been a problem with lots of chronic stuff. My medical file

is about 3 inches thick and I just got a stent a little over a year ago.

Still it could be worse; my daughter has this huge stellium of planets in

her 6th house in Capricorn--moon, mars, neptune, uranus, saturn in the

western chart.

Darla

 

On 12/14/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria wrote:

>

> Darla .

>

>

>

>

>

> I ran off your chart. I get 28 degrees of Sidereal Taurus rising, which

> would give you approx. 21 Gemini in the Tropical. Venus rules the asc

> (body)

> and 6th (health issues) and it's squared by Jupiter in the 6th and ruling

> the 8th (a problematic house). Jupiter can have to do with excess, as can

> Rahu, which it's conjunct. Also, Neptune is there (cnj Jupiter and Rahu,

> square Venus), which makes me think there may be a problem with fluid

> retention. The other thing I notice is the conjunction of Moon and Pluto.

> I've seen that in the horoscopes of some people who are anorexic, which is

> interesting, so maybe it just has to do with eating disorders in general.

> I've never fully understood how Moon/Pluto cnjs work. How would you

> describe yourself emotionally, or personality-wise?

>

>

>

> In the navamsa (9th harmonic) you have Venus (again, asc ruler of natal

> chart) and Mercury, ruler of asc in navamsa, cnj Saturn in fall, and they

> all oppose Moon which makes me think that you may eat to fill an emotional

> need.

>

>

>

Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Darla Wells

> Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:26 PM

>

> Re: Re: my sister

>

>

>

> I have tropical Taurus rising and am pretty large at 300 lbs. Sun in

> Pisces

> and I have always wondered what in the chart would indicate obesity--maybe

> the same things that indicate addictive behaviors or self indulgence in

> general? I was born March 5, 1958, in Vivian, Louisiana, at 11:45 am. I

> was

> skinny and ran around a whole lot until my health fell apart around age

> 30-32. It has been bad ever since.

> Darla

>

> On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

> <chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

> >

> > I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

> >

> >

> >

> > It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese

> people.

> > In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a

> chart

> > of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj

> > Rahu

> > on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> > much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

> > whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves

> (have

> > to look it up).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bettina

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40

> >

> ] On Behalf Of Patrice

> > Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > Re: my sister

> >

> >

> >

> > Useless astrologer...

> >

> > All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

> >

> > An exemple of famous obese:

> >

> > Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

> >

> > In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

> >

> > In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> > Libra!!! LOL!!!

> >

> > http://perso.

> > <http://perso.

> <http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> > orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

> >

> > Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'll run it off again later. Gotta get ready for work.

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Darla Wells

Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:43 AM

 

Re: Re: my sister

 

 

 

Whoops. It was March 6. I see I put March 5. Emotionally I look easy going

on the outside but actually am pretty intense. I don't beat myself up with

the emotional stuff like I did when I was younger. I was anorexic as a teen

but eventually outgrew it. Excess and impulsivity used to mark my whole life

but I am lightening up as I get older. Mostly I think of food as fuel or an

artistic outlet (we are foodies here in Louisiana) and the emotional eating

is not as big a deal as when I was younger. The water retention may be

because I have some heart disease. My sixth house must be a doozy because my

health has always been a problem with lots of chronic stuff. My medical file

is about 3 inches thick and I just got a stent a little over a year ago.

Still it could be worse; my daughter has this huge stellium of planets in

her 6th house in Capricorn--moon, mars, neptune, uranus, saturn in the

western chart.

Darla

 

On 12/14/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

<chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

>

> Darla .

>

>

>

>

>

> I ran off your chart. I get 28 degrees of Sidereal Taurus rising, which

> would give you approx. 21 Gemini in the Tropical. Venus rules the asc

> (body)

> and 6th (health issues) and it's squared by Jupiter in the 6th and ruling

> the 8th (a problematic house). Jupiter can have to do with excess, as can

> Rahu, which it's conjunct. Also, Neptune is there (cnj Jupiter and Rahu,

> square Venus), which makes me think there may be a problem with fluid

> retention. The other thing I notice is the conjunction of Moon and Pluto.

> I've seen that in the horoscopes of some people who are anorexic, which is

> interesting, so maybe it just has to do with eating disorders in general.

> I've never fully understood how Moon/Pluto cnjs work. How would you

> describe yourself emotionally, or personality-wise?

>

>

>

> In the navamsa (9th harmonic) you have Venus (again, asc ruler of natal

> chart) and Mercury, ruler of asc in navamsa, cnj Saturn in fall, and they

> all oppose Moon which makes me think that you may eat to fill an emotional

> need.

>

>

>

Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

> @ <%40>

 

> [@ <%40>

] On Behalf Of Darla Wells

> Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:26 PM

> @ <%40>

 

> Re: Re: my sister

>

>

>

> I have tropical Taurus rising and am pretty large at 300 lbs. Sun in

> Pisces

> and I have always wondered what in the chart would indicate obesity--maybe

> the same things that indicate addictive behaviors or self indulgence in

> general? I was born March 5, 1958, in Vivian, Louisiana, at 11:45 am. I

> was

> skinny and ran around a whole lot until my health fell apart around age

> 30-32. It has been bad ever since.

> Darla

>

> On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

> <chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

> >

> > I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

> >

> >

> >

> > It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese

> people.

> > In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a

> chart

> > of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj

> > Rahu

> > on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> > much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

> > whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves

> (have

> > to look it up).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bettina

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40

> >

> ] On Behalf Of Patrice

> > Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > Re: my sister

> >

> >

> >

> > Useless astrologer...

> >

> > All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

> >

> > An exemple of famous obese:

> >

> > Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

> >

> > In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

> >

> > In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> > Libra!!! LOL!!!

> >

> > http://perso.

> > <http://perso.

> <http://perso.

<http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> > orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

> >

> > Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Azaad

 

 

 

 

 

As Jupiter stays in each sign for approx. 1 yr, J in Cancer couldn't account

for largeness, obesity, whatever.

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Azaad

Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:15 PM

 

Re:my sister

 

 

 

i know two sidereal jupiter in cancer females who are big. does anyone

notice that too.

 

 

 

 

 

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Darla .

 

 

 

 

 

I redid your chart. Your Moon is in Virgo, squared by Saturn. That could

possibly suggest depression, but that, like everything else, can be dealt

with. Everything else stays the same, except the asc. is one degree later

than the one I ran off for the 5th of March. Your asc is 29 degrees of

Taurus.

 

 

 

Just curious: is there anything unusual about your eyes? Either the way

they look or the way they function?

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Darla Wells

Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:43 AM

 

Re: Re: my sister

 

 

 

Whoops. It was March 6. I see I put March 5. Emotionally I look easy going

on the outside but actually am pretty intense. I don't beat myself up with

the emotional stuff like I did when I was younger. I was anorexic as a teen

but eventually outgrew it. Excess and impulsivity used to mark my whole life

but I am lightening up as I get older. Mostly I think of food as fuel or an

artistic outlet (we are foodies here in Louisiana) and the emotional eating

is not as big a deal as when I was younger. The water retention may be

because I have some heart disease. My sixth house must be a doozy because my

health has always been a problem with lots of chronic stuff. My medical file

is about 3 inches thick and I just got a stent a little over a year ago.

Still it could be worse; my daughter has this huge stellium of planets in

her 6th house in Capricorn--moon, mars, neptune, uranus, saturn in the

western chart.

Darla

 

On 12/14/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

<chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

>

> Darla .

>

>

>

>

>

> I ran off your chart. I get 28 degrees of Sidereal Taurus rising, which

> would give you approx. 21 Gemini in the Tropical. Venus rules the asc

> (body)

> and 6th (health issues) and it's squared by Jupiter in the 6th and ruling

> the 8th (a problematic house). Jupiter can have to do with excess, as can

> Rahu, which it's conjunct. Also, Neptune is there (cnj Jupiter and Rahu,

> square Venus), which makes me think there may be a problem with fluid

> retention. The other thing I notice is the conjunction of Moon and Pluto.

> I've seen that in the horoscopes of some people who are anorexic, which is

> interesting, so maybe it just has to do with eating disorders in general.

> I've never fully understood how Moon/Pluto cnjs work. How would you

> describe yourself emotionally, or personality-wise?

>

>

>

> In the navamsa (9th harmonic) you have Venus (again, asc ruler of natal

> chart) and Mercury, ruler of asc in navamsa, cnj Saturn in fall, and they

> all oppose Moon which makes me think that you may eat to fill an emotional

> need.

>

>

>

Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

> @ <%40>

 

> [@ <%40>

] On Behalf Of Darla Wells

> Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:26 PM

> @ <%40>

 

> Re: Re: my sister

>

>

>

> I have tropical Taurus rising and am pretty large at 300 lbs. Sun in

> Pisces

> and I have always wondered what in the chart would indicate obesity--maybe

> the same things that indicate addictive behaviors or self indulgence in

> general? I was born March 5, 1958, in Vivian, Louisiana, at 11:45 am. I

> was

> skinny and ran around a whole lot until my health fell apart around age

> 30-32. It has been bad ever since.

> Darla

>

> On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

> <chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

> >

> > I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

> >

> >

> >

> > It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese

> people.

> > In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a

> chart

> > of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj

> > Rahu

> > on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> > much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out of

> > whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves

> (have

> > to look it up).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bettina

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40

> >

> ] On Behalf Of Patrice

> > Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > Re: my sister

> >

> >

> >

> > Useless astrologer...

> >

> > All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

> >

> > An exemple of famous obese:

> >

> > Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

> >

> > In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

> >

> > In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> > Libra!!! LOL!!!

> >

> > http://perso.

> > <http://perso.

> <http://perso.

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> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> > orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

> >

> > Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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They are hazel; when I was younger they were gold and now they seem to be

turning green from the bottom up.. I have a diagnosis of major depression

and take antidepressants for it, so the other is correct.

Darla

 

On 12/16/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria wrote:

>

> Darla .

>

>

>

>

>

> I redid your chart. Your Moon is in Virgo, squared by Saturn. That could

> possibly suggest depression, but that, like everything else, can be dealt

> with. Everything else stays the same, except the asc. is one degree later

> than the one I ran off for the 5th of March. Your asc is 29 degrees of

> Taurus.

>

>

>

> Just curious: is there anything unusual about your eyes? Either the way

> they look or the way they function?

>

>

>

>

>

> Bettina

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Darla Wells

> Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:43 AM

>

> Re: Re: my sister

>

>

>

> Whoops. It was March 6. I see I put March 5. Emotionally I look easy going

> on the outside but actually am pretty intense. I don't beat myself up with

> the emotional stuff like I did when I was younger. I was anorexic as a

> teen

> but eventually outgrew it. Excess and impulsivity used to mark my whole

> life

> but I am lightening up as I get older. Mostly I think of food as fuel or

> an

> artistic outlet (we are foodies here in Louisiana) and the emotional

> eating

> is not as big a deal as when I was younger. The water retention may be

> because I have some heart disease. My sixth house must be a doozy because

> my

> health has always been a problem with lots of chronic stuff. My medical

> file

> is about 3 inches thick and I just got a stent a little over a year ago.

> Still it could be worse; my daughter has this huge stellium of planets in

> her 6th house in Capricorn--moon, mars, neptune, uranus, saturn in the

> western chart.

> Darla

>

> On 12/14/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

> <chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

> >

> > Darla .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I ran off your chart. I get 28 degrees of Sidereal Taurus rising, which

> > would give you approx. 21 Gemini in the Tropical. Venus rules the asc

> > (body)

> > and 6th (health issues) and it's squared by Jupiter in the 6th and

> ruling

> > the 8th (a problematic house). Jupiter can have to do with excess, as

> can

> > Rahu, which it's conjunct. Also, Neptune is there (cnj Jupiter and Rahu,

> > square Venus), which makes me think there may be a problem with fluid

> > retention. The other thing I notice is the conjunction of Moon and

> Pluto.

> > I've seen that in the horoscopes of some people who are anorexic, which

> is

> > interesting, so maybe it just has to do with eating disorders in

> general.

> > I've never fully understood how Moon/Pluto cnjs work. How would you

> > describe yourself emotionally, or personality-wise?

> >

> >

> >

> > In the navamsa (9th harmonic) you have Venus (again, asc ruler of natal

> > chart) and Mercury, ruler of asc in navamsa, cnj Saturn in fall, and

> they

> > all oppose Moon which makes me think that you may eat to fill an

> emotional

> > need.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bettina

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40

> >

> ] On Behalf Of Darla Wells

> > Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:26 PM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > Re: Re: my sister

> >

> >

> >

> > I have tropical Taurus rising and am pretty large at 300 lbs. Sun in

> > Pisces

> > and I have always wondered what in the chart would indicate

> obesity--maybe

> > the same things that indicate addictive behaviors or self indulgence in

> > general? I was born March 5, 1958, in Vivian, Louisiana, at 11:45 am. I

> > was

> > skinny and ran around a whole lot until my health fell apart around age

> > 30-32. It has been bad ever since.

> > Darla

> >

> > On 12/13/06, Bettina Woolard <chiria (AT) npgcable (DOT)

> > <chiria%40npgcable.com> com> wrote:

> > >

> > > I have Tropical Cancer rising and I'm anything but obese.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It would be interesting to do a study of extremely morbidly obese

> > people.

> > > In the book called The Astrology of Death, by Rick Houck, there is a

> > chart

> > > of a man who weighed in the neighborhood of 900 lbs. He had Venus cnj

> > > Rahu

> > > on Sid. Pisces Asc (Venus' exaltation, no less). Rahu tends toward

> > > much-ness, exaggeration, out-of-control whatever. Almost like an out

> of

> > > whack Jupiter. I think Pluto was square these two, if memory serves

> > (have

> > > to look it up).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bettina

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > @ <%40

> >

> >

> > > [@ <

> %40

> > >

> > ] On Behalf Of Patrice

> > > Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:33 AM

> > > @ <%40>

> >

> > > Re: my sister

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Useless astrologer...

> > >

> > > All obeses of the world are Cancer tropical?

> > >

> > > An exemple of famous obese:

> > >

> > > Guy CARLIER: born june 5 1949 (14h10 - Argenteuil in France)

> > >

> > > In sidereal: Sun (Taurus) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending (Virgo)

> > >

> > > In tropical: Sun (Gemini) - Moon in conjunction with Ascending in

> > > Libra!!! LOL!!!

> > >

> > > http://perso.

> > > <http://perso.

> > <http://perso.

> <http://perso.orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> > orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg>

> > > orange.fr/guy.carlier/images/2005_02_16/guy_carlier15.jpg

> > >

> > > Very Gemini, Very Libra!!! Aerian man!!! LOL LOL LOL!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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