Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 The keywords for Jupiter might be: drama, confrontation, fighting, hard life, surviving, power, struggle, honor, strong principles, bravery etc. This fits perfectly with Jupiter as the astrological representator for type Eight, the Boss, in the enneagram. http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeEightOverview.asp This study would seem to give support to the idea that the traits of tropical Capricorn belongs for the most part to sidereal Sagittarius, and those of tropical Aries belong to sidereal Pisces. If we take this idea further, we might think that Jupiter is actually a mix of " tropical Saturn " and " tropical Mars " . Jupiter on the sidereal Sagittarius ascendant would seem to emphasisise more the " Saturn " side - suffering, hardships, surviving, depression, etc., whereas Jupiter on the sidereal Pisces ascendant points to the " Mars " side of Jupiter: fighting, warriorness, honor etc. Many astrologers have noted that Jupiter is often active on the death charts and also on charts of the near ones, when the loss happens. It's interpreted as " liberation " , but what if it simply points to the obvious: Jupiter is not about an easy life or happy incidents. What else Jupiter is not? It's wouldn't seem to be about gentleness, moral goodness, laughter, or being light and funny. It doesn't seem to be the Santa Claus of planets, as it's sometimes called. In fact, because I think that this world contains basically only seven archetypes and all the myths and stories are only representations of these basic stories, I think the reason why Chiron has touched such a deep chord in peoples hearts in the astrological world is that it's actually one of these seven basic themes that's lost in contemporary astrology. It needed to be discovered again, the theme about suffering and surviving, about being wild and untamed, about going too far and taking too much and becoming wise in the process. Chiron is actually Jupiter. The figure of Sagittarius alone should show us that. Regards, Sari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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