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For those interested, here are Richard (Rick) Houck's own words on zodiac

signs:

 

" In my experience a strong " proof " of the sidereal zodiac is the cosistency

and objectivity demonstrable power of its exaltation, rulership and fallen

placement guidelines...For example, Venus in [tropical] Aries is supposedly

a ‘detrimental placement being opposite the sign it rules.' Yet it is hard

to speak badly of this Venus placement because, as a practical matter,

people with this placement usually do very well with Venus-related

matters...because Venus actually has a 75 percent chance of being exalted

in sidereal Pisces.

 

" **I'm not talking about states of mind or temperament that are subject to

selective perception and soft interpretation.** I'm saying its beneficial

function is clearly observable in their daily life by others around them.

The same could be said of Venus in the first 25 degrees of tropical

Scorpio, which is actually sidereal Libra, and many other similar

combinations. " (pp 80-81, Astrology of Death)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

So there you have it. (The asterisks above are mine.) Richard Houck is

talking about planets in signs, observable circumstances that others can

see. He apparently doesn't support a psychological interpretation of the

signs, so it's not true that he applies tropical traits to the sidereal

signs of the same name.

 

I knew Rick for a number of years, and I know he was a precise technician.

He interpreted charts on the basis of planetary strength and mathematical

exactness, not on the basis of psychological traits of signs of the zodiac.

It's doubtful that Rick would have assigned psychological traits to signs

in either zodiac without a lifetime of research.

 

P.S. I promised Rick shortly before his death that I would do the best I

could to see that he was quoted correctly, and that his work remained alive

to the astrological community.

 

Therese

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Hi Therese,

 

Yes, for me, when Venus is in 2° sidereal Scorpio, the proprieties are

venusians, no Scorpio...

 

I have realised a new site for to put an end to the tissue of lies

tropicalists.

 

http://www.astrologie-indosiderale.com/constellations.htm

 

This site is french, but the zodiac and the natives are

internationals!

 

Kind regards.

 

 

Patrice.

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The tropical zodiac is quite viable. It is just another framework. Have

a look at the Tropical Ingress of 0* Aries over London of March 21 1939

1:28 pm BST. This is the famous 'No War!' chart that all the English

astrologers got wrong by predicting peace.

_________________________________

 

Patrice wrote:

 

>

> I have realised a new site for to put an end to the tissue of lies

> tropicalists.

>

> http://www.astrologie-indosiderale.com/constellations.htm

>

> This site is french, but the zodiac and the natives are

> internationals!

>

> Kind regards.

>

> Patrice.

>

>

 

 

 

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Therese,

 

As we know, Rick liked to poke fun at astrologers who over-indulged in

" psycho-babble " . He was quite right to note how hard it would be to prove

personality or psychological traits conclusively. Who is really Aries? Who is

really Taurus? How can you tell?

 

As I said, one can find little comments here and there where he does make the

commonplace assumption that sidereal Aries is really Aries not Taurus but

obviously he wasn't the type of astrologer to go on at length about the

significance of someone's sign placements.

 

So on p 251 of Digital Astrology, he is discussing the recification of a chart.

He says: " she is not at all the all-powerful, ego-asserting personality that a

41-bindu Leo 1st house (holding a stationary Pluto!) definitely would be... " I

supppose one could argue that the Leo is an afterthought and not a key factor in

the chart besides the bindus and the Pluto. But I see this as confirmation that

although Rick didn't assign that much weight to signs, he still d the

standard view of them. Having Leo in the first house still meant something to

him, otherwise he wouldn't mention it. And the recitification showed that the

native had sidereal Cancer rising, not Leo. This supports the standard view that

Cancer rising has quintessentially Cancerian traits as opposed to Leo.

 

In Astrology of Death (p 56), Houck introduces Hindu astrology to the western

reader via an analysis of Jim Bakker's chart. " The important thing to note here

is how this commentary flowed so easily and completely without regard to

transits, progressions or any other considerations which would have brought in

even much more precision and confirmation. And it is generally deducible form

your current basic knowledge of Western planets, signs and houses. There can be

some significant differences in house meanings, but I will try not to emphasize

them as they will generally not be necessary for the narrow purpose of this

book. "

Note he only mentions houses as being different between the two systems. Signs

are the same.

 

In his discussion of Elvis Presley's recitification in Astrology of Death

(p.142), Houck makes the case for Gemini rising and notes that his twin brother

died at birth. Gemini still means twins.

 

On p. 199 of Digital Astrology he is describing the chart of the husband of a

client who is an acupuncturist: " Her husband has quite an excellent chart, and

htis includes a stationary Venus in Libra in the 7th house (yes, the

acupuncturist is really attractive). " Libra still is associated with beauty.

 

 

Anyway, we are in agreement that Houck didn't place much weight on the sign

meanings. Still, I feel these fragmentary comments were worthy of note and show

that Houck adhered to the standard sidereal view of signs.

 

best wishes,

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

therese hamilton <eastwest wrote: For those interested, here are

Richard (Rick) Houck's own words on zodiac

signs:

 

" In my experience a strong " proof " of the sidereal zodiac is the cosistency

and objectivity demonstrable power of its exaltation, rulership and fallen

placement guidelines...For example, Venus in [tropical] Aries is supposedly

a ‘detrimental placement being opposite the sign it rules.' Yet it is hard

to speak badly of this Venus placement because, as a practical matter,

people with this placement usually do very well with Venus-related

matters...because Venus actually has a 75 percent chance of being exalted

in sidereal Pisces.

 

" **I'm not talking about states of mind or temperament that are subject to

selective perception and soft interpretation.** I'm saying its beneficial

function is clearly observable in their daily life by others around them.

The same could be said of Venus in the first 25 degrees of tropical

Scorpio, which is actually sidereal Libra, and many other similar

combinations. " (pp 80-81, Astrology of Death)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

So there you have it. (The asterisks above are mine.) Richard Houck is

talking about planets in signs, observable circumstances that others can

see. He apparently doesn't support a psychological interpretation of the

signs, so it's not true that he applies tropical traits to the sidereal

signs of the same name.

 

I knew Rick for a number of years, and I know he was a precise technician.

He interpreted charts on the basis of planetary strength and mathematical

exactness, not on the basis of psychological traits of signs of the zodiac.

It's doubtful that Rick would have assigned psychological traits to signs

in either zodiac without a lifetime of research.

 

P.S. I promised Rick shortly before his death that I would do the best I

could to see that he was quoted correctly, and that his work remained alive

to the astrological community.

 

Therese

 

 

 

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Hi Patrice

 

Thanks for the site reference. Sad that it's in French, which only one or

two members of this forum can read. Perhaps one day there might be an

English translation?

 

Therese

 

At 06:58 AM 9/5/06 -0000, Patrice wrote:

>Hi Therese,

>

>Yes, for me, when Venus is in 2° sidereal Scorpio, the proprieties are

>venusians, no Scorpio...

>

>I have realised a new site for to put an end to the tissue of lies

>tropicalists.

>

>http://www.astrologie-indosiderale.com/constellations.htm

>

>This site is french, but the zodiac and the natives are

>internationals!

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