Introduction Libra Suns (2) ayanamsha considerations

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Hi Buz,

 

The study of ayanamshas should prove of great value, especially as

you're looking at the moon, which would be expected to show clearer

results by nakshatra.

 

The surprising result favoring the 28-fold sidereal as well as

tropical is very interesting indeed. Since that data was a sampling of

19th century births of clergymen, the effects of precession over the

range of dates wouldn't " throw " the tropical points but 8% at most ...

this would seem about the same as a set of sidereal points using a

shifted ayanamsha. If the data gives a reasonably true results, then

it would be equivalent to saying the tropical nakshatra boundaries

lined up with sidereal ones fairly well c. 1850, and that a plausible

ayanamsha for 1850 would have been close to some multiple of 12º51',

most likely around 25º43'. That would approximate the DeLuce value,

speculating that sidereal and tropical zodiacs matched very closely at

the beginning of the Common Era. Maybe worth further examination?

I'm not a good one for final conclusions, though the Fagan-Bradley and

Krishnamurti put forth a great deal of supporting evidence. I could

live with being a Virgo quite well, too The saturn-neptune

conjunction probably accounts for a lot of my Virgo characteristics in

any case (nothing there in Tropical)

 

 

, " Buz Overbeck " <buz.

overbeck wrote:

>

> Hello Julia,

>

> You mentioned that you have a special interest in comparitive

> ayanamsas. I'm in the middle of a statistical study of 23 ayanamsas

> and their application to the moon in the nakshatras. I'm using the

> published data of Michele Gauquelin. I won't publish the study until

> it's completed but if you e-mail me directly I'd be happy to

exchange

> information on the subject with you.

>

> You also mention that you feel a 28-fold mansion scheme seems to

work

> better than the 27. You might be interested in a followup article

> called " The Sun in the Lunar Mansions " , which was published back in

> 1980 in Charles Jayne's Cosmocology Bulletin. It seems to support

your

> theory. You can find it here:

>

> http://members.toast.net/overbeck/Articles.html

>

> In any case, welcome to the group!

>

>

> , " Julia Cybele "

> <julia_cybele@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello to Therese and group members!

> > I've just joined, though interested in Sidereal Astrology and the

> > general " lore of the stars " for many years. I was born at a new

moon

> > near the beginning of sidereal Libra, Aldebaran rising/ Antares

> > setting. Comparative studies of ayanamshas is of special interest

....

> > I've set up a spreadsheet for converting R.A./Decl of stars to

> > ecliptic coordinates. Of course I can't seem to reach any final

> > conclusions, but the exploration is interesting. Actual star

positions

> > matched to the Nakshatras are problematic for most any ayanamsha,

> > assuming that the marker stars are correctly identified. A 28-fold

> > division seems somewhat better than the more common one of 27, for

> > what it's worth.

> >

> > In a more practical sense, it's intriguing the follow the good

efforts

> > to undo the mix-up and reassert the distinctive character of the

true

> > sidereal delineations. I've been collecting date also on the

> > occurences of " grand conjunctions " (sun, moon, and visible planets

in

> > a narrow stellium) and possible significance. They do recur in

patters

> > analogous to the saros cycle found in eclipses. Bernadette Brady's

> > work with " parans " involving stars seems pretty interesting too.

> >

> > Anyway, I've already enjoyed reading many of the earlier posts

here...

> > not usually so talkative as this, but wanted to write a few words

of

> > appreciation for the thoughtful discussions and articles

referenced

> > here. I read one of Rupert Gleadow's books some years ago and was

much

> > impressed with the quest for connection with the ancient

archetypes of

> > the signs and planets, basically symbols of the Gods for me.

> >

> > Julia

> >

> > * * * *

> > > (2) Whoopi Goldberg is the big name under sidereal Libra Suns in

the

> > > 10th house: Asc 26 Cap; Neptune 5.5, Mercury 15, Moon 19, Sun 17

> > > Libra.

> > >

> > > A reminder that I use the equal cusps as the centers of equal 30

> > > degree houses. Essentially this emphasizes aspects to the

ascendant

> > > or another angular cusp. Planets near the 2nd cusp trine the

10th;

> > > Planets near cusp 12 trine the 4th, and so on.

> > >

> > > Therese

> > >

> > > ---End of Libran Sun Posts---

> > >

> >

>