Introduction Libra Suns

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Thanks, Therese, for the excellent welcome!

 

, therese hamilton

<eastwest wrote:

 

re Nakshatras, 27-fold per Surya Siddhanta:

>

> However, even in that division some of the stars miss their mansions

and fall in another mansion. On my website

> http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/amansions.htm there's a table

that indicates which stars fall in which mansions.

>

> The problem is that the original nakshatras didn't have boundaries.

They were only one star or a group of stars--an asterism. When the

zodiac was divided into 27 or 28 groupings, some of the stars didn't

land in the correctly named mansion. So the mansions/nakshatras now

are siimply harmonics of the ecliptic.

 

I had not long ago found your fine website and bookmarked it for

frequent returns. Yes, I've had to conclude that the practical view is

to see the mansions as harmonics, analogous to the signs themselves,

and simply flavored by important stars found within them. R.H. Allen's

sources spoke of several " junction stars " indicating effectively cusps

of the mansions, but examining them shows up many problems and

certainly would not produce even approximately equal divisions of the

ecliptic. Some indications exist that the Chinese and Arab/Persian

astrologers received their 28-mansion systems from India at a very

early date, supplanted in India by the 27-fold system. Abhijit is

handled in a variety of ways by modern pundits. Supposedly it was Vega

plus the zeta and epsilon stars of Lyra ... those would perhaps fit a

" fractional " mansion in accord with the 27 1/3 day sidereal month. A

" missing " 28th mansion would fit better with Kalpeny=Sadalsuud=beta

aquarius though, rather than Vega. The 27-fold system appears to give

good results, though it's hard not to be suspicious of the Lahiri

ayanamsha. Surface checking of Vimsottari dashas with major dates in

my own life doesn't give convincing results, but in all fairness,

maybe I'm too inexperienced in the interpretation of the periods and

subperiods.

 

> Exploring the symbolism of the nakshatras in

> relation to the stars is a fascinating study! Some of the old Hindu

> delineations do seem to hold.

 

Those do seem both intuitively valid and useful and may help to

clarify our understanding of whole signs too, especially in showing

what qualities link adjoining signs encompassed by a single mansion.

>

>> collecting data also on the occurences of " grand conjunctions " :

 

> I've been doing the same thing--collecting material on stellium

> conjunctions! Though that particular research is 'on the table' for

the time being in favor of other projects. Please let us know what

you've discovered--if you have time for some longer posts.

 

I'd be very happy to share the material ... it's in an Excel

spreadsheet. I was exploring the notion that that occurences might

correspond roughly with " Platonic months " and that somewhat does check

out at intervals of about 2144 years, with sometimes one or two

jupiter-saturn conjuctions off of that in a particular series. It's

intriguing to note the frequency of major historical events happening

within the year or two following a " grand conjuction " ...

assassination of Caesar; Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem; etc...

turning points that impact the world for many centuries thereafter.

One of the significant era commencement dates of Egypt, July 16, 2767

BCE, was the full moon following a grand conjunction by two weeks. The

inception date attributed to the Kali Yuga is a similar conjuction

event, but one of wider span than 30º. Grand conjuctions falling in a

span of less than 15º are extremely rare.

>

 

> Thanks for your appreciation, and I agree on Gleadow. I'm interested

inyour birth data, Julia, if you'd be willing to post it here or send

it to me privately: eastwest

 

It's October 18, 1952 at 7:05 p.m. (Eastern STANDARD Time) at Newport,

Rhode Island. Yeah, a lot of weird stuff happening on that one

 

>When I went to the membership page I noted that you live in Arizona.

I'm wondering where in Arizona because my best astrological friend

lives there.

 

Yuma is home nowadays, and, I think, for keeps It's a delightful

" border town " in many senses; hybrid of Arizona and California with a

fine Sonoran seasoning in the mix. The flowing waters of the Colorado

have literally created the place. The echo of Newport's sea is kind of

imprinted, so the River is a soothing element indeed.