Sidereal sign meanings [was Mystery Chart 2]

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Chris, I'll gather together sign material from some of the early

writers. Remember that those who first talked about the concept of

the signs changing meanings over the centuries were Fagan and his

contemporaries. We're talking about their view, so it's not 'mine' in

the sense of it being original with me.

 

Where to start, however? Perhaps with the earliest writers, of which

Valens is the most prominent. I'll look up the dates and choose the

two earliest writers. I do remember that Valens' Gemini was much like

modern Tropical Gemini, but I'll look at all 12 signs. I'll probably

put this on my web site, as it would be too extensive for a chat

forum.

 

Ultimately the support for anything astrological is in the charts of

living persons whose lives we can study. Astrology Today. I'll have

to make a quick post on the 17 charts from ADB with planets in Taurus

in 10th. This research into ancient writers is much more interesting

as a foundation for today's horoscopes. I have all the original

translations including Valens.

 

Therese

 

, Christopher Kevill

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> Hi Therese,

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> I will be interested to see what you find from those Project

Hindsight sources. Here's what I dug out from an old email with

Steve. Writing around 150 C.E. when the two zodiacs were perhaps one

or two degrees apart, Vettius Valens ( " who shot Vettius Valens? " ),

described Taurus and Gemini in ways that would be familiar with the

standard meanings of those signs. This is from Anthology Book 1

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> " Those born in this 'zoidion' [he's referring to early Taurus which

is near the Pleiades] will be good, versed in handicraft, hard

working good at preserving things,pleasure loving, music loving,

generous, while some of them will be husbandsmen, planters, builders. "

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> " Those so born (i.e. in Gemini) then, become fond of discourse,

those who work with letters and education, poetic, lovers of music,

teachers of the use of the voice, capable in matters of household

management, those who receive trust. They also become interpreters,

those with an aptitude for commerce, critics of good and bad,

prudent, curious, initiates in occult matters. " ]

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