Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Yesterday, the price of gold fell almost $20 back to about $555. I believe a single day drop of this size should appear in any correct chart for gold. The chart I'm currently using to track gold is the futures chart (Dec 31 1974 10.00 am NYC). This chart has 3 Aquarius rising in Lahiri What's intriguing is that Mercury was conjunct that ascendant yesterday. But why would Mercury be such bad news for gold? I think the answer has something to do with rulership. Following sidereal whole signs, Mercury rules the malefic 8th house Virgo. This is an unhappy conjunction. By itself, it should not have generated such a large drop in price, however. The other thing you notice about this chart is that Venus has just stationed exactly conjunct natal Mercury (that nasty 8th lord) at 22 Sagittarius and opposite natal Saturn at 22 Gemini. This stationing on the Mercury-Saturn opposition was likely a ticking time bomb for the price of gold and the malefic Mercury (by rulership) coming to the ascendant was the lighting of the fuse. I still think gold has a ways to go as Uranus 16Aquarius approaches the 2nd house Jupiter 19Aq44. The station near that point in May/June may be a medium/ong term high in the price. cheers, Chris K http://modernVedic Astrology.com http://modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Chris... I like what your research reveals... Mercury on the ASC brings movement to direction... Strongly Bona Fides the potential of the Futures chart of Dec 31. 1974... Less than a day earlier the Sun squared Jupiter which in itself shows the stage set for a drop in gold(Jupiter) value. As the square completes and the Sun seperates from the square, value(Sun) is drawn away from gold(Jupiter) The paran square(s) of Mars and Mercury yesterday interplayed complimenting the downward trend... Add the Moon aspecting the SUN, Neptune and Jupiter during trading hours in ways that manipulated the marketplace and you have the 'perfect' situation to short the market.... I was too busy wasting time trading e-minis to take advantage of the situation... However, Arch Crawford saw the Solar/Jupiter set up and advised short selling April futures last Friday(1/3 short) and Monday all out short @ 577... Golden opportunity... jivio, John , Christopher Kevill <ckevill wrote: > > Yesterday, the price of gold fell almost $20 back to about $555. I believe a single day drop of this size should appear in any correct chart for gold. > > The chart I'm currently using to track gold is the futures chart (Dec 31 1974 10.00 am NYC). This chart has 3 Aquarius rising in Lahiri > > What's intriguing is that Mercury was conjunct that ascendant yesterday. But why would Mercury be such bad news for gold? I think the answer has something to do with rulership. > > Following sidereal whole signs, Mercury rules the malefic 8th house Virgo. This is an unhappy conjunction. By itself, it should not have generated such a large drop in price, however. > > The other thing you notice about this chart is that Venus has just stationed exactly conjunct natal Mercury (that nasty 8th lord) at 22 Sagittarius and opposite natal Saturn at 22 Gemini. > > This stationing on the Mercury-Saturn opposition was likely a ticking time bomb for the price of gold and the malefic Mercury (by rulership) coming to the ascendant was the lighting of the fuse. > > I still think gold has a ways to go as Uranus 16Aquarius approaches the 2nd house Jupiter 19Aq44. The station near that point in May/June may be a medium/ong term high in the price. > > > cheers, > Chris K > > > http://modernVedic Astrology.com > > http://modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > > > > > Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 John, jivio <jivio wrote: Chris... I like what your research reveals... Mercury on the ASC brings movement to direction... Strongly Bona Fides the potential of the Futures chart of Dec 31. 1974... Less than a day earlier the Sun squared Jupiter which in itself shows the stage set for a drop in gold(Jupiter) value. As the square completes and the Sun seperates from the square, value(Sun) is drawn away from gold(Jupiter) Yes, this is likely a big part of it. And yet, I have seen some astrologers (like the Magi or perhaps Arch himself) argue the opposite as well: that one should sell the market short after the perfection of a trine or conjunction since all the good applying energy has now been exhausted. I don't have any examples handy just now. The paran square(s) of Mars and Mercury yesterday interplayed complimenting the downward trend... Add the Moon aspecting the SUN, Neptune and Jupiter during trading hours in ways that manipulated the marketplace and you have the 'perfect' situation to short the market.... Yes -- I never look at this pure transit stuff. Shame on me. I'm fixated on finding natal charts that are reliable. I was too busy wasting time trading e-minis to take advantage of the situation... However, Arch Crawford saw the Solar/Jupiter set up and advised short selling April futures last Friday(1/3 short) and Monday all out short @ 577... I like Crawford's style. Are you a r? Besides the upcoming Uranus station on the gold futures chart Jupiter in May, the other main reason for this upward trend has been an applying progressed Venus-Uranus trine. It perfects in a few months if using natal Uranus and probably next year sometime if using the P2 Uranus. FWIW. Chris Golden opportunity... jivio, John , Christopher Kevill <ckevill wrote: > > Yesterday, the price of gold fell almost $20 back to about $555. I believe a single day drop of this size should appear in any correct chart for gold. > > The chart I'm currently using to track gold is the futures chart (Dec 31 1974 10.00 am NYC). This chart has 3 Aquarius rising in Lahiri > > What's intriguing is that Mercury was conjunct that ascendant yesterday. But why would Mercury be such bad news for gold? I think the answer has something to do with rulership. > > Following sidereal whole signs, Mercury rules the malefic 8th house Virgo. This is an unhappy conjunction. By itself, it should not have generated such a large drop in price, however. > > The other thing you notice about this chart is that Venus has just stationed exactly conjunct natal Mercury (that nasty 8th lord) at 22 Sagittarius and opposite natal Saturn at 22 Gemini. > > This stationing on the Mercury-Saturn opposition was likely a ticking time bomb for the price of gold and the malefic Mercury (by rulership) coming to the ascendant was the lighting of the fuse. > > I still think gold has a ways to go as Uranus 16Aquarius approaches the 2nd house Jupiter 19Aq44. The station near that point in May/June may be a medium/ong term high in the price. > > > cheers, > Chris K > > > http://modernVedic Astrology.com > > http://modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > > > > > Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Chris, The ASC of the Gold Futures and transit Mercury you mention are both 45 that chart's solar return SU/MO (new moon) in the solar12th. I don't follow gold...but would want to find Mercury a village explainer in its dealings. ________________________________ Christopher Kevill wrote: > Yesterday, the price of gold fell almost $20 back to about $555. I believe a single day drop of this size should appear in any correct chart for gold. > > The chart I'm currently using to track gold is the futures chart (Dec 31 1974 10.00 am NYC). This chart has 3 Aquarius rising in Lahiri > > What's intriguing is that Mercury was conjunct that ascendant yesterday. But why would Mercury be such bad news for gold? I think the answer has something to do with rulership. > > Following sidereal whole signs, Mercury rules the malefic 8th house Virgo. This is an unhappy conjunction. By itself, it should not have generated such a large drop in price, however. > > The other thing you notice about this chart is that Venus has just stationed exactly conjunct natal Mercury (that nasty 8th lord) at 22 Sagittarius and opposite natal Saturn at 22 Gemini. > > This stationing on the Mercury-Saturn opposition was likely a ticking time bomb for the price of gold and the malefic Mercury (by rulership) coming to the ascendant was the lighting of the fuse. > > I still think gold has a ways to go as Uranus 16Aquarius approaches the 2nd house Jupiter 19Aq44. The station near that point in May/June may be a medium/ong term high in the price. > > cheers, > Chris K > > http://modernVedic Astrology.com > > http://modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > > > > Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 , Christopher Kevill <ckevill wrote: > > John, > > > > jivio jivio wrote: Chris... > > I like what your research reveals... Mercury on the ASC brings > movement to direction... Strongly Bona Fides the potential of the > Futures chart of Dec 31. 1974... > > Less than a day earlier the Sun squared Jupiter which in itself > shows the stage set for a drop in gold(Jupiter) value. As the square > completes and the Sun seperates from the square, value(Sun) is drawn > away from gold(Jupiter) > > Yes, this is likely a big part of it. And yet, I have seen some astrologers (like the Magi or perhaps Arch himself) argue the opposite as well: that one should sell the market short after the perfection of a trine or conjunction since all the good applying energy has now been exhausted. I don't have any examples handy just now. > Your language is clearly better at describing what I apparently was attemping to express. The shorting of gold would have to occur after the exactness of the Solar/ Jupiter square. > > The paran square(s) of Mars and Mercury yesterday interplayed > complimenting the downward trend... Add the Moon aspecting the SUN, > Neptune and Jupiter during trading hours in ways that manipulated > the marketplace and you have the 'perfect' situation to short the > market.... > > Yes -- I never look at this pure transit stuff. Shame on me. I'm fixated on finding natal charts that are reliable. Transits come into play in very significant ways for day traders... most especially when they contact the various angles. I can tell from what you have written that you hold strong views but I don't understand what you are saying with regards to reliable natal charts 'versus' transits? > > I was too busy wasting time trading e-minis to take advantage of the > situation... However, Arch Crawford saw the Solar/Jupiter set up and > advised short selling April futures last Friday(1/3 short) and > Monday all out short @ 577... > > I like Crawford's style. Are you a r? No... not at $5000 a year.... we share e-mails on occassion and after reading your thread on gold, I thought his recent one worthy to share . > > Besides the upcoming Uranus station on the gold futures chart Jupiter in May, the other main reason for this upward trend has been an applying progressed Venus-Uranus trine. It perfects in a few months if using natal Uranus and probably next year sometime if using the P2 Uranus. FWIW. > > Chris Earlier today, Gold had recovered about 85% of what it lost on Tuesday... only to lose 50% after hours.... jivio, John > , Christopher Kevill > ckevill@ wrote: > > > > Yesterday, the price of gold fell almost $20 back to about $555. > I believe a single day drop of this size should appear in any > correct chart for gold. > > > > The chart I'm currently using to track gold is the futures chart > (Dec 31 1974 10.00 am NYC). This chart has 3 Aquarius rising in > Lahiri > > > > What's intriguing is that Mercury was conjunct that ascendant > yesterday. But why would Mercury be such bad news for gold? I > think the answer has something to do with rulership. > > > > Following sidereal whole signs, Mercury rules the malefic 8th > house Virgo. This is an unhappy conjunction. By itself, it should > not have generated such a large drop in price, however. > > > > The other thing you notice about this chart is that Venus has just > stationed exactly conjunct natal Mercury (that nasty 8th lord) at 22 > Sagittarius and opposite natal Saturn at 22 Gemini. > > > > This stationing on the Mercury-Saturn opposition was likely a > ticking time bomb for the price of gold and the malefic Mercury (by > rulership) coming to the ascendant was the lighting of the fuse. > > > > I still think gold has a ways to go as Uranus 16Aquarius > approaches the 2nd house Jupiter 19Aq44. The station near that > point in May/June may be a medium/ong term high in the price. > > > > > > cheers, > > Chris K > > > > > > http://modernVedic Astrology.com > > > > http://modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 , Dark Star <pansophia wrote: > > > Chris, > > The ASC of the Gold Futures and transit Mercury you mention are both 45 that chart's solar return SU/MO (new moon) in the solar12th. I don't follow gold...but would want to find Mercury a village > explainer in its dealings. DS... Great Find... Love the perspective... solar return sun/moon 45 degree ASC of Futures and Mercury... However.... couldn't figure out what you ment by what you wrote... could you explain " find Mercury a village explainer in its dealings " tks... John I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Jivio, I am coming to know that I should begin all my answering posts with, " What I should have said was... " I think Mercury should have a special affinity for gold. Is it possible? I would want Mercury as handmaiden to assist in the understanding of gold charts. Dark*Star ________________________________ jivio wrote: > , Dark Star <pansophia > wrote: > > > > > > Chris, > > > > The ASC of the Gold Futures and transit Mercury you mention are > both 45 that chart's solar return SU/MO (new moon) in the solar12th. > I don't follow gold...but would want to find Mercury a village > > explainer in its dealings. > > DS... > > Great Find... Love the perspective... solar return sun/moon 45 > degree ASC of Futures and Mercury... > > However.... couldn't figure out what you ment by what you wrote... > could you explain " find Mercury a village explainer in its dealings " > > tks... > John I > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 jivio <jivio wrote: , Christopher Kevill <ckevill wrote: > > John, > > > > jivio jivio wrote: Chris... > > I like what your research reveals... Mercury on the ASC brings > movement to direction... Strongly Bona Fides the potential of the > Futures chart of Dec 31. 1974... > > Less than a day earlier the Sun squared Jupiter which in itself > shows the stage set for a drop in gold(Jupiter) value. As the square > completes and the Sun seperates from the square, value(Sun) is drawn > away from gold(Jupiter) > > Yes, this is likely a big part of it. And yet, I have seen some astrologers (like the Magi or perhaps Arch himself) argue the opposite as well: that one should sell the market short after the perfection of a trine or conjunction since all the good applying energy has now been exhausted. I don't have any examples handy just now. > Your language is clearly better at describing what I apparently was attemping to express. The shorting of gold would have to occur after the exactness of the Solar/ Jupiter square. > > The paran square(s) of Mars and Mercury yesterday interplayed > complimenting the downward trend... Add the Moon aspecting the SUN, > Neptune and Jupiter during trading hours in ways that manipulated > the marketplace and you have the 'perfect' situation to short the > market.... > > Yes -- I never look at this pure transit stuff. Shame on me. I'm fixated on finding natal charts that are reliable. Transits come into play in very significant ways for day traders... most especially when they contact the various angles. I can tell from what you have written that you hold strong views but I don't understand what you are saying with regards to reliable natal charts 'versus' transits? It's not that my views are that strong, just that at the moment, I'm interested in finding natal charts that are workable. I've only ignored the pure transit effects and that is my loss. All in good time though. > > I was too busy wasting time trading e-minis to take advantage of the > situation... However, Arch Crawford saw the Solar/Jupiter set up and > advised short selling April futures last Friday(1/3 short) and > Monday all out short @ 577... > > I like Crawford's style. Are you a r? No... not at $5000 a year.... we share e-mails on occassion and after reading your thread on gold, I thought his recent one worthy to share . > > Besides the upcoming Uranus station on the gold futures chart Jupiter in May, the other main reason for this upward trend has been an applying progressed Venus-Uranus trine. It perfects in a few months if using natal Uranus and probably next year sometime if using the P2 Uranus. FWIW. > > Chris Earlier today, Gold had recovered about 85% of what it lost on Tuesday... only to lose 50% after hours.... Alas, another puzzle to ponder. cheers, Chris jivio, John > , Christopher Kevill > ckevill@ wrote: > > > > Yesterday, the price of gold fell almost $20 back to about $555. > I believe a single day drop of this size should appear in any > correct chart for gold. > > > > The chart I'm currently using to track gold is the futures chart > (Dec 31 1974 10.00 am NYC). This chart has 3 Aquarius rising in > Lahiri > > > > What's intriguing is that Mercury was conjunct that ascendant > yesterday. But why would Mercury be such bad news for gold? I > think the answer has something to do with rulership. > > > > Following sidereal whole signs, Mercury rules the malefic 8th > house Virgo. This is an unhappy conjunction. By itself, it should > not have generated such a large drop in price, however. > > > > The other thing you notice about this chart is that Venus has just > stationed exactly conjunct natal Mercury (that nasty 8th lord) at 22 > Sagittarius and opposite natal Saturn at 22 Gemini. > > > > This stationing on the Mercury-Saturn opposition was likely a > ticking time bomb for the price of gold and the malefic Mercury (by > rulership) coming to the ascendant was the lighting of the fuse. > > > > I still think gold has a ways to go as Uranus 16Aquarius > approaches the 2nd house Jupiter 19Aq44. The station near that > point in May/June may be a medium/ong term high in the price. > > > > > > cheers, > > Chris K > > > > > > http://modernVedic Astrology.com > > > > http://modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 DS.. I don't think an affinity for gold and Mercury per se exists... However, the second we introduce 'markets' into the mix... then the Mercury muscle appears... Your posts are usually thoughtful, inciteful and penetrating... I simply figured that I had a cloud around my head and 'just didn't get what you were saying'... , Dark Star <pansophia wrote: > > Jivio, > > I am coming to know that I should begin all my answering posts with, " What I > should have said was... " I think Mercury should have a special affinity for > gold. > Is it possible? I would want Mercury as handmaiden to assist in the understanding > > of gold charts. > > Dark*Star > ________________________________ > > jivio wrote: > > > , Dark Star <pansophia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > The ASC of the Gold Futures and transit Mercury you mention are > > both 45 that chart's solar return SU/MO (new moon) in the solar12th. > > I don't follow gold...but would want to find Mercury a village > > > explainer in its dealings. > > > > DS... > > > > Great Find... Love the perspective... solar return sun/moon 45 > > degree ASC of Futures and Mercury... > > > > However.... couldn't figure out what you ment by what you wrote... > > could you explain " find Mercury a village explainer in its dealings " > > > > tks... > > John I > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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