Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 You need to have the moon and the AC or MC conjunct the star. The AC/MC within 1 or 2 degrees, and the Moon within 7 or 8 of that. This is strong enough to make a talisman from if they are both applying. Natal will use both separating or applying of course. The closer the Moon to the degree in question the stronger. You'll get some effect from the other 6 planets, but Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are them selves not much stronger than fixed stars. Vorcirith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 , " vorcirith93 " <vorcirith93> wrote: > > You need to have the moon and the AC or MC conjunct > the star. The AC/MC within 1 or 2 degrees, and the Moon within > 7 or 8 of that. This is strong enough to make a talisman from > if they are both applying. Natal will use both separating > or applying of course. The closer the Moon to the degree in > question the stronger. > You'll get some effect from the other 6 planets, but Uranus, > Neptune, and Pluto are them selves not much stronger than > fixed stars. > > Vorcirith > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 ---The method of electing fixed stars has evolved since the time of the Book of Hermes however. For instance a star like Cor Scorpionis could utilize Mars conjuncting the AC or MC in the first or tenth house and timing with planetary hours, paying attention of course to the basic electional rules, avoiding square or oppisition with Saturn and the moon dignified and likewise unafflicted. Unfortunately only a handful of stars are truly known and have Sigils that can be used. Well, 14 to be precise. A few have individual descriptions in the sources. Many appear to have been described by the bunch. Vorcirith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 At 04:30 AM 1/21/06 -0000, fimtinnegan wrote: >(...) >Just because astrologers are fixated on the zodiac, we insist the sky >should be too. But the sky is NOT -- no principle of astrology could >possibly justify thinking that the entire sky has any relationship to >THE EARTH'S TILT. Why would it? It. simply. does. not. make. sense. I don't understand why you are relating the zodiac belt to the earth's tilt. The Sun is a star which doesn't move except perhaps by very small amounts of proper motion. The earth revolves through the entire zodiac each year. The sidereal zodiac as used by astrologers is fixed, measured either from an epoch in time or from a fixed star. Everything in the sky can be measured along lines which converge at the north and south ecliptic poles. These don't change over time. We simply don't know if a star on any particular converging line has influence on that particular point of the ecliptic (sidereal zodiac sign and degree). RA and Decl do indeed depend on the earth's tilt, but these are Tropical coordinates and use the celestial equator, the measurement of the earth's tilt. >Why would stars' positions be magically " relocated " to a position as >much as 90 degrees away (on average, 45!), onto a circle based >entirely on THE EARTH'S TILT? What on earth does the earth's tilt >have to do with the stars? This is a question for Tropical astrologers or for those who use RA and Decl. The sidereal reference frame isn't based on the earth's tilt. >But the STARS? Why would they be " relocated " up to 90 degrees (and >ON AVERAGE 45 degrees)to a circle based on the earth's tilt? This isn't so when using the ecliptic and its poles. No matter what the earth's tilt is, the path around the Sun through the zodiac is still the same. You could turn the earth upside down, and its path around the Sun would still be the same. But if say a meteor hit the earth and shifted the equator, then that could affect the earth's tilt, the celestial equator, the beginning of the Tropical zodiac and RA/Decl. That would be an axis shift. The sidereal reference frame is fixed in relation to the stars and our own star, the Sun. The tropical reference frame moves with the precession of the equinoxes. Actually it seems to me that only sidereal astrologers should be using the ecliptic for the measurement of their signs. Tropical astrolgers should be using the celestial equator from which declination is measured. If I am mistaken, anyone on this list who may be an expert in astronomy is welcome to correct me. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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