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Hi Fim Tinnegan! The Uranian Astrology is still an

object for research, everywhere. I do not consider

myself an astrologer. I am fond of research.

Of course the void of course Moon is useless sometimes,

since various astrologers limits themselves to 10

planets for various reasons.

It is your good right to deny the existance/value of

anymore planets,since you are content with your knowledge.

I 'll not bother you anymore with Uranian Astrology.

Afterall it is your responsibility.

Regards,

Anny

 

 

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Van:

 

Verzonden: zondag 30 oktober 2005 17:25

Aan:

Onderwerp: Digest Number 1179

 

 

 

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" fimtinnegan " <kh1100

Re: 1st house sign?

 

Astrology is based on astronomy.

 

Astrologery is based on whichever I-just-made-it-up-techniques Noel

Tyl et al. said at their last jam-packed lectures to the faithful

(like Tyl's theoretical progression formulas, just for starters ...

starters on an almost endless list of nonsense).

 

Void of course Moon ... how about that for a good example of

astrologery?

 

Or astrolocality (not astrocartography) Pluto-sextile-ascendant

lines ... how about that for a good example of astrologery?

 

Or Uranian planets ... how about that for a good example of

astrologery?

 

On and on and on and on. I can't believe you even have to ask,

Patrick and Bert. What I'm saying is simple: astrology vs. whatever

some astrologer makes up = astrology vs astrologery.

 

Philosophical relativism and open-mindedness (hwhich are good things)

do not excuse, in the context of astrology, techniques rooted nowhere

in astronomy -- such as the parallel between houses

(rotation/mundane/earth/clockwise) and signs

(revolution/ecliptic/sun/counterclockwise).

 

Astrologers make stuff up, century after century. Astronomy provides

clues to what is and isn't plausible.

 

Astrologery is whatever may be *easily* classified as " implausible "

in the context of first principles based on astronomy. If we want to

turn astrology into an oracle a la Tarot, phrenology, I Ching,

palmistry, numerology, runes, and the entrails of slaughtered

animals, fine. Otherwise, we have to fall back on the thing which is

unique to astronomy among all oracles: astronomy. The former is

astrologery. The latter is the basis for anything plausibly called

astrology.

 

 

 

 

 

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, " Anny van Berckel "

<avbdk@x...> wrote:

>

> The Uranian Astrology is still an

> object for research, everywhere. > It is your good right to deny

the existance/value of

> anymore planets,since you are content with your knowledge.

> I 'll not bother you anymore with Uranian Astrology.

> Afterall it is your responsibility.

 

 

Look -- the Uranian planets do not exist, and yet you must lecture me

about my " responsibility. "

 

Astrology is based on astronomy.

 

The Uranian planets do not exist.

 

The Uranian planets do not exist.

 

The Uranian planets do not exist.

 

It's fine to use oracles that are man-made and woman-made. Make up

something! That's great! Seriously -- make up your own oracle.

Make up a new Tarot deck. Just invent it. It doesn't have to be 78

cards. Make up a deck with 39 cards! or 151 cards! or 93 cards!

That's fine. Seriously -- I mean it, and I accept it. Oracles are

good. Tarot is good.

 

But it's not astrology. And neither are made-up planets.

 

Look how simple it is -- I refuse to accept made-up planets, and yet,

as an astrologer, I'm being closed-minded.

 

In terms of progressing as astrologers, isn't there something wrong

with that picture? Doesn't it suggest a certain lack of analytical

discrimination?

 

I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

 

Astrology is based on astronomy.

 

The Uranian planets do not exist.

The Uranian planets do not exist.

The Uranian planets do not exist.

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