Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 ______________________ Gerald! Thank you very much for your explanation and calculation. I am going to practice/experiment it right away, now. Anny van Berckel Message: 1 Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:39:37 -0800 Gerald Koenig <glk re: Explaining the 5/4's progression rate between S/R charts Here are some thoughts on the subject of the PSSR I wrote a while back. I have been pondering this same question for years. It makes the most sense to me when I think of the PSSR as a simple cyclical chart such as a lunar return, and not any kind of symbolic progression. The " progression " is simply a means of identifying fractions of the cycle. Great minds have disagreed with me on this. --------------------- The solar day is reckoned from one transit of the sun over the observer's meridian to the next. Sidereal time days are reckoned from the Vernal Equinox point, which is much further away, like a star. The solar day exceeds the sidereal day by 3 min 56.56 seconds of time on the atomic clock. This is due to the nearness of the sun and the earth's orbital motion around it. The earth has to rotate more than 360 degrees relative to the equinox point to complete a solar day by bringing the sun back to the observer's prime meridian. 56.56/60=.9426666 [convert to decimal minutes] ..9426666+3=3.9426666 [decimal minutes equivalent to 3m 56.56sec] The solar day exceeds the sidereal day by 3.9426666 minutes. 3.9426666*365.24219=1440.0281834 [min per solar day times days per solar year equals minutes per year that the solar day exceeds the sidereal day.] 1440.0281834/60=24.0004697 [minutes divided by minutes per hour] 24.000. [hours per year that solar time exceeds sidereal time] Here is the reason for the 24 hours. It is the cumulative sum of the average daily difference between sidereal time and solar time. " Equinoctrial time " is lagging tropical time by 24 hours at this point. Each tropical year the earth rotates 365 and 1/4 times on its axis. So the _approximate_ angular increase, discarding whole rotations for each day of 360, is 24+6=30 hours from year to year. This is the same as 1+1/4 rotations or 360+90=450 degrees increase for the sidereal cycle. 450/365=1.232876712 1.232876712 degrees per day of " progression " or angular increase to be added to the MC per day. This is an average rate only. HTH, Gerald Koenig -- http://www.rexx.com/~glk/abc.html Ascendant Based Conception Charts StarSymbols email Group ----------------------------- ADDED nov 02: The sidereal year is 365.25636 days Filby The tropical year is 365.24219 days 6.153 hours average increase in clock time for a sid. return. 5.813 hours average increase in clock time for a tropical return. reality check on the PSSR. If you know different, please let me know. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:16:14 -0800 Bert Fannin <bwfannin Re: Fw: [PoliticalAstrology] Ayanamshas >My argument is, how can ANY ayanamsha work, if you are >assuming that each sidereal sign is 30 degrees long, no more >or no less? A 30-degree convention is not going to work for >constellations, no matter what ayanamsha is chosen! Diana? :About the ayamsa: this thought I had before. I started to research with the ingres Aries when the Vernal Point was indeed conjunct 0 ° Aries, sidereally. There was a difference of 0°00'50 " between the Krishnamurti ayamsa and Lahiri ayamnamsha. Lahiri was also an astronomer. Lahiri was exact 29°59'59 " Pisces. Constellations is the name that Siderealists use for the Sidereal Signs of 30 degrees each. Why the signs are just 30 degrees, I am not sure. But the differences in mundane condition of the Moon moving from one Constellation/Sign to next, has been noted and well documented. This question is brought up too by an astronomer formerly. In the geometry we work with a vast 360° circle, already from the time in Egypt. There was astrology practiced too at Pharao's court.You know? I got in a flash of light this. 12 is a special number. Christ chose 12 apostles. There are more important events " coloured " with the number 12. We astrologers work with 12 sectors of social life, the native have to cope/to live with, for the rest of his/her life. 360 : 12 (houses and signs) = 30 degrees. Quite simple thus. I imagine that the Meridian housesystem is the oldest form of deviding the sectors in 12. I am content with it in the practice. Regards, Anny _____________________ " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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