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Gerald! Thank you very much for your explanation and calculation.

I am going to practice/experiment it right away, now.

Anny van Berckel

 

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Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:39:37 -0800

Gerald Koenig <glk

re: Explaining the 5/4's progression rate between S/R charts

 

Here are some thoughts on the subject of the PSSR I wrote a

while back. I have been pondering this same question for

years. It makes the most sense to me when I think of the PSSR

as a simple cyclical chart such as a lunar return, and not any

kind of symbolic progression. The " progression " is simply a

means of identifying fractions of the cycle. Great minds have

disagreed with me on this.

 

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The solar day is reckoned from one transit of the sun over the

observer's meridian to the next. Sidereal time days are

reckoned from the Vernal Equinox point, which is much further

away, like a star.

 

The solar day exceeds the sidereal day by 3 min 56.56 seconds

of time on the atomic clock. This is due to the nearness of

the sun and the earth's orbital motion around it. The earth

has to rotate more than 360 degrees relative to the equinox

point to complete a solar day by bringing the sun back to the

observer's prime meridian.

 

56.56/60=.9426666 [convert to decimal minutes]

..9426666+3=3.9426666 [decimal minutes equivalent to 3m 56.56sec]

 

The solar day exceeds the sidereal day by 3.9426666 minutes.

 

3.9426666*365.24219=1440.0281834 [min per solar day times days

per solar year equals minutes per year that the solar day

exceeds the sidereal day.]

 

1440.0281834/60=24.0004697 [minutes divided by minutes per hour]

24.000. [hours per year that solar time exceeds sidereal time]

Here is the reason for the 24 hours. It is the cumulative sum of the

average daily difference between sidereal time and solar time.

" Equinoctrial time " is lagging tropical time by 24 hours at this point.

 

Each tropical year the earth rotates 365 and 1/4 times on its

axis. So the _approximate_ angular increase, discarding whole

rotations for each day of 360, is 24+6=30 hours from year to

year. This is the same as 1+1/4 rotations or 360+90=450

degrees increase for the sidereal cycle.

 

450/365=1.232876712

1.232876712 degrees per day of " progression " or angular

increase to be added to

the MC per day. This is an average rate only.

HTH,

Gerald Koenig

 

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ADDED nov 02:

 

The sidereal year is 365.25636 days Filby

The tropical year is 365.24219 days

 

6.153 hours average increase in clock time for a sid. return.

5.813 hours average increase in clock time for a tropical return.

 

 

reality check on the PSSR. If you know different, please let me know.

 

 

 

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Message: 2

Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:16:14 -0800

Bert Fannin <bwfannin

Re: Fw: [PoliticalAstrology] Ayanamshas

 

>My argument is, how can ANY ayanamsha work, if you are

>assuming that each sidereal sign is 30 degrees long, no more

>or no less? A 30-degree convention is not going to work for

>constellations, no matter what ayanamsha is chosen!

 

Diana?

:About the ayamsa: this thought I had before. I started to

research with the ingres Aries when the Vernal Point was indeed

conjunct 0 ° Aries, sidereally. There was a difference of 0°00'50 "

between the Krishnamurti ayamsa and Lahiri ayamnamsha. Lahiri was

also an astronomer. Lahiri was exact 29°59'59 " Pisces.

 

Constellations is the name that Siderealists use for the Sidereal

Signs of 30 degrees each. Why the signs are just 30 degrees, I am not

sure. But the differences in mundane condition of the Moon moving

from one Constellation/Sign to next, has been noted and well

documented.

 

This question is brought up too by an astronomer formerly.

In the geometry we work with a vast 360° circle, already from the time

in Egypt. There was astrology practiced too at Pharao's court.You know?

I got in a flash of light this. 12 is a special number. Christ chose 12

apostles. There are more important events " coloured " with the number 12.

We astrologers work with 12 sectors of social life, the native have to

cope/to live with, for the rest of his/her life. 360 : 12 (houses and

signs) = 30 degrees. Quite simple thus. I imagine that the Meridian

housesystem is the oldest form of deviding the sectors in 12. I am

content with it in the practice.

Regards,

Anny

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