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Re: [Physics_of_] Re: Explaining the 5/4's

progression rate between S/R charts.

 

k.b.bowser

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Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:21:24 -0600

 

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" Derek Kinsolving " <ddkinsolving,

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" Derek Kinsolving " <ddkinsolving

Date sent: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:27:33 -0000

[Physics_of_] Re: Explaining the 5/4's

progression rate between S/R charts.

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I echo Dave's question. Somehow, Fagan took the symbolic

progression rate of 24 hours, then seemingly willy-nilly tacked on 6

hours (from real time) onto the progression calculation. The lack

of a rationale for this has discouraged me from spending time trying

the PSSR - despite recommendations from Fagan and Eshelman.

Regards, Derek --- In

Physics_of_ , " Dave "

<dadsnook@c...> wrote: > > In his books, Cyril Fagan made the point

that the apparent 1/4 > rotation of the sun's position among the

houses from one Solar > Return chart to the following Solar Return

chart was actually 5/4's > of the chart in terms of rotation. >

> He explained some of the math and rational relative to determining

> correct dates for a Secondary Progression chart, but then glossed

> over the exact rational and process of the 5/4 motion of the chart

> angles spanning two Solar Returns. I have used this method of >

progression with excellent, consistent results for many years, yet

I > have not seen a clear and concise statement of the " how "

behind all > of this. > > Does someone have a concise

explanation of this? Dave. Hi,

Count me in with Fagan, Eshelman and Dave. Specifically I want to

second Dave's opinion of the P.S.S.R. It doesn't always work but then

sometimes when you've got, say, a lunar and an anlunar that cover the

same period when something important has happened, the angles of one

of them are directed to the right planet on time and one of them is

not; and sometimes they both come to the same planet on different

angles at the same time. But because one of them worked and the other

didn't, you don't discard the technique that failed to show the event

because it doesn't show it every time.

 

A good recent example of the power of the P.S.S.R. is Bush's election

last November. I'll show the little sums involved here so people can

see exactly what I'm talking about.

 

22h 02m 54s: R.A.M.C. 2004 SSR at Washington D.C.

_+9h 26m 47s_: P.S.S.R. increment

31h 29m 41s

_-24h 00m00s_: since the increment takes us beyond 24 hrs

07h 29m 41s: sidereal time of P.S.S.R at Washington D.C.

07h 28m 09s: Bush's natal Jupiter rises at Washington

 

The P.S.S.R. increment was calculated for 11:00 p.m. EST on 11/2/2004

which is the moment when the polls on the west coast and it became

apparent that Bush was going to win, inasmuch as Kerry won Minnesota

at 11:00 p.m. but not Ohio--the margin of victory.

 

So my point is that Bush's Jupiter rising at Washington- -where the

president actually was--not Texas, is good symbolism for what happened

to him: elation, celebration, success, victory. He had some pretty

awful transits in play but the P.S.S.R. suggested otherwise as did ALL

the progressed angles or static angles of his lunars that were

relevant to election day.

That is, the lunar, demi-lunar, anlunar and demi- anlunar.

 

Bush's natal Jupiter wasn't quite as close to the P.S.S.R. angle as

the figure above suggests. Sidereal time is reckoned in right

ascension, an equatorial coordinate, which is therefore subject to

precession, unlike sidereal longitude. When his natal Jupiter is

ex-precessed, those ex-precessed coordinates make his natal Jupiter

rise at Washington with a sidereal time of 7h 31m 31s. But that still

makes the contact pretty close: only 1m 50s of sidereal time which is

less than a half degree.

 

 

I'd say that's efficacious.

Best wishes,

Ken Bowser