Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Charles and camilla have picked a real doozey of a day to marry.. Certainly the dual malefic aspects of Rahu and Saturn to the royal planets suggest destruction to royalty. The marriage timing suggests it will have significant impact. If they wanted a quiet marriage that wont cause much of a stir, they really picked the wrong time. One way or another it will impact. And its worth mentioning that the effect of the eclipse will be to create unexpected outcomes, sometimes quite badly, the only saving grace is at least its not on a Saturday. Its taking place on a Friday, unfortunately Venus is of course afflicted by Rahu and Saturn as you noticed, so its not much of a reprieve. Mars and Venus are mutually angular in transit. Natal mars to transit Venus, and transit Mars makes a partial aspect and is angular to natal Venus, suggesting sexuality is a key motivation. Mercury trinas positons, transit to charles natal chart is positive for communication, but the Mercury Saturn opposition and debiliated mercury isnt going to be helpful. whether thats more about how its recieved publically -- well thats likely ... dawn SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > > Dear Lists, > > A massing of Sun-Moon-Venus-Rahu all at around 27* Pisces - and all aspected by station Saturn at 26* Gemini. > > Interesting, that the 2 royal planets Sun-Moon and the planet of Marriage (Venus) will be hit by Rahu and Saturn :-) . > > Sateesh. > > ======== > > http://news./news? tmpl=story & u=/nm/20050210/people_nm/britain_charles_dc_13 > > UK's Charles and Camilla to Marry on April 8 > > > LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's heir to the throne Prince Charles and his long-time lover Camilla Parker Bowles will marry on April 8 in St George's Chapel at Windsor Castle, his office said on Thursday. An official statement said Parker Bowles would be given the title of Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cornwall after the marriage. > > It added that she will not become queen when Charles accedes to the throne, but will be known as Princess Consort. > > Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, known in the past to have disapproved of the couple's relationship, publicly congratulated them. > > " The Duke of Edinburgh and I are very happy that the Prince of Wales and Mrs Parker Bowles are to marry, " the Queen said in a statement issued on her behalf by Buckingham Palace. " We have given them our warmest good wishes for their future together. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear Dawn, Good points - also check the attached UK 1801 chart and its TRs - The stellium will happen over NT Rahu-Ketu axis (station TR Nodes though will not quiet be < 5* from their Natal selves, but still close). A slow-accelerating Saturn 6th Lord will be exact over NT Moon, the Royal Queen. Station Saturn in 10th will hit both the Rahus (NT and TR) in 7th TR Mars nearing NT Venus in 5th. RX Jupiter/TR Ketu will also be hitting NT Ketu-Rahu axis in 1st. TR Station Rahu (perfect station that day) will be afflicting NT Mercury (Lagnesh in 3rd) with its 9th-aspect TR Mars (exalted in Capricorn) exact 4th-hitting NT Mars (in MT Aries). However, from memory Professor has said a Functional Malefic (if placed in its MT sign, natally) will not be afflicted by its Transit self. TR Mars will be afflicting MEPs 5/11/12. TR Station Ketu in 1st will be afflicting NT Venus in 5th. Natal Ketu also afflicts NT Venus. Yes, interesting time to have a royal wedding on an eclipse day :-) . Sateesh. P.S. Whose natal chart were you referring to with the Mars/Venus comments? ======== - Dawn SAMVA Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:02 PM Re: Prince Charles and Camilla to marry in a stellium Charles and camilla have picked a real doozey of a day to marry..Certainly the dual malefic aspects of Rahu and Saturn to the royal planets suggest destruction to royalty. The marriage timing suggests it will have significant impact.If they wanted a quiet marriage that wont cause much of a stir, they really picked the wrong time. One way or another it will impact.And its worth mentioning that the effect of the eclipse will be to create unexpected outcomes, sometimes quite badly, the only saving grace is at least its not on a Saturday. Its taking place on a Friday, unfortunately Venus is of course afflicted by Rahu and Saturn as you noticed, so its not much of a reprieve.Mars and Venus are mutually angular in transit. Natal mars to transit Venus, and transit Mars makes a partial aspect and is angular to natal Venus, suggesting sexuality is a key motivation. Mercury trinas positons, transit to charles natal chart is positive for communication, but the Mercury Saturn opposition and debiliated mercury isnt going to be helpful. whether thats more about how its recieved publically -- well thats likely ...dawn========SAMVA , "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote:> > Dear Lists, > > A massing of Sun-Moon-Venus-Rahu all at around 27* Pisces - and all aspected by station Saturn at 26* Gemini.> > Interesting, that the 2 royal planets Sun-Moon and the planet of Marriage (Venus) will be hit by Rahu and Saturn :-) .> > Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Please find re-attached the LAHIRI-based UK chart - I had earlier sent a custom ayanamsa-based UK chart, incorrectly. However, all my TR comments remain unchanged. Cheers - Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear Lists, A massing of Sun-Moon-Venus-Rahu all at around 27* Pisces - and all aspected by station Saturn at 26* Gemini. Interesting, that the 2 royal planets Sun-Moon and the planet of Marriage (Venus) will be hit by Rahu and Saturn :-) . Sateesh. ======== http://news./news?tmpl=story & u=/nm/20050210/people_nm/britain_charles_d\ c_13 UK's Charles and Camilla to Marry on April 8 LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's heir to the throne Prince Charles and his long-time lover Camilla Parker Bowles will marry on April 8 in St George's Chapel at Windsor Castle, his office said on Thursday. An official statement said Parker Bowles would be given the title of Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cornwall after the marriage. It added that she will not become queen when Charles accedes to the throne, but will be known as Princess Consort. Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, known in the past to have disapproved of the couple's relationship, publicly congratulated them. " The Duke of Edinburgh and I are very happy that the Prince of Wales and Mrs Parker Bowles are to marry, " the Queen said in a statement issued on her behalf by Buckingham Palace. " We have given them our warmest good wishes for their future together. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Yes re reading what I said, I was not that clear about Mars and venus, well I guess thats what happens when you post at 1.00am.. I was looking at the aspects from the transiting Venus and Mars on the wedding day, to Princes Charles natal Venus and Mars. Perhaps its worth looking at the Queens chart to check her longevity at this point. Because I am not sure how well recieved Camilla will be if Charles has to take the job soon. The public reaction may only be to ignore it, like it, or to remove the royalty. The malefic aspects to the royal planets on this significant day for Charles, suggest at least some difficulties for royalty. I am actually just looked at the Chaitra Shukla for Londons location which is on 8th April this year. Saturn is the 4th lord, ie the masses and its squaring the royal planets in the 6th house. The 3rd rule, the press, is in the 12th in Parivatana yoga with Mercury in the 6th. The aspect from Jupiter to that cluster of Pisces planets suggests some help from the press, but the exchange is unsettling. It could mean they get stabbed in the back. Mercury is certainly malefic for Libra the Chaitra Shukla ascendant. Perhaps it means they intend to use the press to paint it in a favourable light. dawn SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Dawn, > > > Good points - also check the attached UK 1801 chart and its TRs - > > The stellium will happen over NT Rahu-Ketu axis (station TR Nodes though will not quiet be < 5* from their Natal selves, but still close). > > A slow-accelerating Saturn 6th Lord will be exact over NT Moon, the Royal Queen. Station Saturn in 10th will hit both the Rahus (NT and TR) in 7th > > TR Mars nearing NT Venus in 5th. > > RX Jupiter/TR Ketu will also be hitting NT Ketu-Rahu axis in 1st. > > TR Station Rahu (perfect station that day) will be afflicting NT Mercury (Lagnesh in 3rd) with its 9th-aspect > > TR Mars (exalted in Capricorn) exact 4th-hitting NT Mars (in MT Aries). However, from memory Professor has said a Functional Malefic (if placed in its MT sign, natally) will not be afflicted by its Transit self. > > TR Mars will be afflicting MEPs 5/11/12. > > TR Station Ketu in 1st will be afflicting NT Venus in 5th. Natal Ketu also afflicts NT Venus. > > Yes, interesting time to have a royal wedding on an eclipse day :- ) . > > Sateesh. > > P.S. Whose natal chart were you referring to with the Mars/Venus comments? > > ======== > > - > Dawn > SAMVA > Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:02 PM > Re: Prince Charles and Camilla to marry in a stellium > > > > > Charles and camilla have picked a real doozey of a day to marry.. > > Certainly the dual malefic aspects of Rahu and Saturn to the royal > planets suggest destruction to royalty. The marriage timing suggests > it will have significant impact. > > If they wanted a quiet marriage that wont cause much of a stir, they > really picked the wrong time. One way or another it will impact. > > And its worth mentioning that the effect of the eclipse will be to > create unexpected outcomes, sometimes quite badly, the only saving > grace is at least its not on a Saturday. Its taking place on a > Friday, unfortunately Venus is of course afflicted by Rahu and Saturn > as you noticed, so its not much of a reprieve. > > Mars and Venus are mutually angular in transit. Natal mars to transit > Venus, and transit Mars makes a partial aspect and is angular to > natal Venus, suggesting sexuality is a key motivation. Mercury trinas > positons, transit to charles natal chart is positive for > communication, but the Mercury Saturn opposition and debiliated > mercury isnt going to be helpful. whether thats more about how its > recieved publically -- well thats likely ... > > dawn > > ======== > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > > > > Dear Lists, > > > > A massing of Sun-Moon-Venus-Rahu all at around 27* Pisces - and all > aspected by station Saturn at 26* Gemini. > > > > Interesting, that the 2 royal planets Sun-Moon and the planet of > Marriage (Venus) will be hit by Rahu and Saturn :-) . > > > > Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear Lists, (Systems Approach being used here - I have attached a jpeg of the UK Birth chart and its Transits for April 8th - for those lists that discard attachments, I can forward this jpeg by private E-Mail - please E-mail me off-list if you require it). Using the UK 1801 birth-chart, which is what is used on the SAMVA List - The stellium will happen over the NT Rahu-Ketu axis (station TR Nodes though will not quiet be < 5* from their Natal selves, but still close). A slow-accelerating Saturn (6th Lord) will be exact over NT Moon, the Royal Queen. Station Saturn in 10th will hit both the Rahus (NT and TR) in 7th TR Exalted Mars nearing NT Venus in 5th. 4th Lord RX Jupiter will be hitting NT Ketu-Rahu axis in 1st. TR Station Rahu in 7th (perfect station that day) will be afflicting NT Mercury (Lagnesh in 3rd) with its 9th-aspect TR Mars (exalted in Capricorn) exact 4th-hitting NT Mars (in MT Aries). TR Mars will be afflicting MEPs 5/11/12, while aspecting MEP 8 (Aries). TR Station Ketu in 1st will be afflicting NT Venus in 5th. Natal Ketu also afflicts NT Venus < 5* . Yes, interesting time to have a royal wedding on an eclipse day :-) . P.S. I am NOT interested on this thread in debating - the merits of S.A., nor the use of the 1801 chart for the UK, nor if the Nodes cast aspects - thank you very much. Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Please find re-attached the LAHIRI-based UK chart - I had earlier sent a custom ayanamsa-based UK chart, incorrectly. However, all my TR comments remain unchanged. Cheers - Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Sateesh, no attachments come through in forum posts. doesn't allow them. This applies to *all* lists and forums. If you want forum members to see your charts, please post the full birth data of the chart within your main message. Interested members can calculate the chart on their own computers. Therese At 02:54 PM 2/10/05 -0000, Sateesh wrote: > >Please find re-attached the LAHIRI-based UK chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Therese, No, it does NOT apply to all - the group moderator is the one who can allow/disallow attachments. Several of the lists I post to always show attachments coming through. You can if you wish change your group settings to do this. Here is the UK birth-data - 01st Jan 1801 12 a.m. (midnight) London, England 0w10, 51n30 NO DST Sateesh. ======== Therese Hamilton Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:11 PM Re: Prince Charles and Camilla to marry in a stellium Sateesh, no attachments come through in forum posts. doesn't allow them. This applies to *all* lists and forums. If you want forum members to see your charts, please post the full birth data of the chart within your main message. Interested members can calculate the chart on their own computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I assume you mean the midnight chart..... on screen here it tells me the attachment is not stored. So I cannot see it in anycase dawn SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Please find re-attached the LAHIRI-based UK chart - I had earlier sent a custom ayanamsa-based UK chart, incorrectly. > > However, all my TR comments remain unchanged. > > Cheers - Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Yes, midnight - I will forward you the jpeg to your E-Mail if you wish - let me know at makara Sateesh. ======== - Dawn SAMVA Friday, February 11, 2005 1:53 PM Re: Prince Charles and Camilla to marry in a stellium I assume you mean the midnight chart..... on screen here it tells me the attachment is not stored. So I cannot see it in anycasedawnSAMVA , "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote:> Please find re-attached the LAHIRI-based UK chart - I had earlier sent a custom ayanamsa-based UK chart, incorrectly.> > However, all my TR comments remain unchanged.> > Cheers - Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hi, Robin. It is not my ayanamsa but the one used by Ashtakavarga students on the group at . The teacher (Krushna) arrived at it (custom ayanamsa). Best - Sateesh. ======== - Seems Like A Thousand Days.... valist Monday, February 14, 2005 2:05 AM Re: Re: Prince Charles and Camilla to marry in a stellium Hello there to you, Sateesh,I would be interested in knowing the value that you used for your ayanamsa & would also like to know how you determined it. I do not use the LAHIRI ayanamsa myself. Thank you,Robin...Sateesh Batas <makara wrote:Please find re-attached the LAHIRI-based UK chart - I had earlier sent a custom ayanamsa-based UK chart, incorrectly.However, all my TR comments remain unchanged.Cheers - Sateesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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