Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Hi... With the critical planetary positions in the Capricorn Ingress this month, I set up the two charts for San Francisco--Krishnamurti and Fagan-Bradley. The K chart has the Aldebaran/Antares axis on the Asc (Aldebaran) Desc axis. Mars is four degrees above the descendant squaring Moon-Uranus at the zenith. Neptune is near the MC sextiled by Mars. The F-B has about 2 degrees of Taurus rising. Sun is trine the ascendant from 9th and Ketu is on the (equal) cusp of 6th. This is a relatively tame chart compared to the K chart. Let's wait and see if anything materializes. At the time of the Krishnamurti ingress, Saturn was only 3 minutes from the exact oppostion to the Sun. By the time the F-B ingress occurred, the Sun had moved about a degree from Saturn. So the Saturn-Sun opposition is extremely potent for the K month and certainly not weak in the F-B chart. However, this opposition isn't close to the angles for San Francisco. It will reflect events in other areas of the world. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Therese Hamilton wrote: >Hi... > >With the critical planetary positions in the Capricorn Ingress this month, >I set up the two charts for San Francisco--Krishnamurti and Fagan-Bradley. > >The K chart has the Aldebaran/Antares axis on the Asc (Aldebaran) Desc >axis. Mars is four degrees above the descendant squaring Moon-Uranus at the >zenith. Neptune is near the MC sextiled by Mars. > >The F-B has about 2 degrees of Taurus rising. Sun is trine the ascendant >from 9th and Ketu is on the (equal) cusp of 6th. This is a relatively tame >chart compared to the K chart. Let's wait and see if anything materializes. > >At the time of the Krishnamurti ingress, Saturn was only 3 minutes from the >exact oppostion to the Sun. By the time the F-B ingress occurred, the Sun >had moved about a degree from Saturn. So the Saturn-Sun opposition is >extremely potent for the K month and certainly not weak in the F-B chart. >However, this opposition isn't close to the angles for San Francisco. It >will reflect events in other areas of the world. > > > ------ > > >Therese: > > Great. Something for me to look forward to, here in Baghdad by the bay. Bert :-( > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Therese... When I've compared ayanamsa's, I found that in comparing systems I was also responsible for evaluating house systems. There are a number of subtleties which occur when reading the symbolism associated with charts and techniques have a way of deluding the process. The Capricorn Ingress is an essential tool in the process of prediction however it can be viewed very differently. I was just reading Bert's perspective of the CapSolar and I observed that he calculated the chart for 00N00 and 000W00. So at the equator and international date line he advances the concept that the first CapSolar on earth occurs. He then looks at an astrocartography map and concludes that the affects of that CapSolar will influence the entire globe. Which would be " more " correct, calculating the CapSolar for someplace on earth that it occurs for the first time or calculating the CapSolar when it comes to a precise location such as Wall Street or San Francisco. Two different charts and yet both are CapSolars. We think one ayanamsa is better than the others, however it depends on how you use them that contributes to determining accuracy. Jivio , Therese Hamilton <eastwest@s...> wrote: > Hi... > > With the critical planetary positions in the Capricorn Ingress this month, > I set up the two charts for San Francisco--Krishnamurti and Fagan- Bradley. > > The K chart has the Aldebaran/Antares axis on the Asc (Aldebaran) Desc > axis. Mars is four degrees above the descendant squaring Moon- Uranus at the > zenith. Neptune is near the MC sextiled by Mars. > > The F-B has about 2 degrees of Taurus rising. Sun is trine the ascendant > from 9th and Ketu is on the (equal) cusp of 6th. This is a relatively tame > chart compared to the K chart. Let's wait and see if anything materializes. > > At the time of the Krishnamurti ingress, Saturn was only 3 minutes from the > exact oppostion to the Sun. By the time the F-B ingress occurred, the Sun > had moved about a degree from Saturn. So the Saturn-Sun opposition is > extremely potent for the K month and certainly not weak in the F-B chart. > However, this opposition isn't close to the angles for San Francisco. It > will reflect events in other areas of the world. > > Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 jivio wrote: > >Therese... > >When I've compared ayanamsa's, I found that in comparing systems I >was also responsible for evaluating house systems. There are a number >of subtleties which occur when reading the symbolism associated with >charts and techniques have a way of deluding the process. The Ayanamsa has little to do with the house System one uses. It has everything to do with the time that the ingress comes into effect, and thus the angles of the chart.for the ingress. >The Capricorn Ingress is an essential tool in the process of >prediction however it can be viewed very differently. I was just >reading Bert's perspective of the Capsolar and I observed that he >calculated the chart for 00N00 and 000W00. So at the equator and >international date line he advances the concept that the first >Capsolar on earth occurs. He then looks at an Astrocartography map >and concludes that the affects of that Capsolar will influence the >entire globe. I am not sure what you are saying here. I think that you are referring to my Eye On The World article published in the Papers section of my website. I did it that way, only to show the Approximant location of the culmination of planets in the east or west. In the equal house system, each house east or west of the MC is approx. 30 degrees of longitude. It allows a quick picture of where the planetary forces are Marshalled. It was only a convenient prop, not a delineation tool. The real evaluation comes form looking at the Astro*Carto*Graphy maps. The locations where planets are angular that determines the arenas of action. Hence, a change in Ayanamsa will change the time, and hence the ACG map of the ingress. >Which would be " more " correct, calculating the CapSolar for someplace >on earth that it occurs for the first time or calculating the >CapSolar when it comes to a precise location such as Wall Street or >San Francisco. Two different charts and yet both are CapSolars. > The point of doing ACG is so one does not have to calculate a dozen or so chart all for the same ingress. If one were to do a chart for a location that showed the presence of, say Mars Asc., That chart would show Mars rising. >We think one ayanamsa is better than the others, however it depends >on how you use them that contributes to determining accuracy. Again, if you use a different ayanamsa, the time of the ingress will be different. This in turn will change the relative location of the angularity lines. That changes the location and timing of events. The proof is to watch where events do occure as time goes on and the lines are moved by progression, and activated by transits. Best Regards, Bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 At 07:17 AM 1/27/05 -0000, Jivio wrote: > >...The Capricorn Ingress is an essential tool in the process of >prediction however it can be viewed very differently... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What matters as far as I'm concerned is that the monthly solar ingress chart clearly describes the major events of that month at a particular locale. Everything else is just 'ideas.' Other astrologers are welcome to view the ingress charts as they wish. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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